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The Revolutions
« on: Jul 23, 2018, 05:36:57 pm »
 

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Is it some Revolution simply a overthrow a tyran ? Or some Revolutions are bring down the Government and beginning of terror or Civil war ? What is foreign influence ( Intelligence services, Secret Societies, companies, original criminal  ) in some revolutions ?

Social revolutions ( Industrial, Sexual, Digital...)



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« Reply #1 on: Jul 24, 2018, 12:05:07 pm »
 

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Is it some Revolution simply a overthrow a tyran ? Or some Revolutions are bring down the Government and beginning of terror or Civil war ? What is foreign influence ( Intelligence services, Secret Societies, companies, original criminal  ) in some revolutions ?

Social revolutions ( Industrial, Sexual, Digital...)



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Foreign influence is just about required for a revolution, even if it comes from within the society; as in, it's a foreign concept introduced by anyone from anywhere to overthrow the current form of society.

Usually, a revolution ends up bad. Progress and/or restoration is what's needed in most places and unfortunately progress is associated with radical progressives these days. Progress just for the hell of it can be just as bad/borderline revolutionary. The terms associated with certain progression in history are used to make them all seem good. I would've loved to have been a part of the Industrial Revolution, but I'm also glad I wasn't there to see it's demise. I wouldn't have liked to have witnessed the Sexual Revolution, but I'm glad traditional relationships made a come back and I exist partly because of that lol  :-\ In my lifetime, the sexual revolution was mostly dead even in the most bohemian of circles I've come across. Then things like the Cultural Revolution in China were forced by the state and given a cool sounding name, used because of the association with the word revolution in other instances around the world. That's probably the most terrifying of them all I would guess.

I've also heard people say that the American Civil War was actually a revolution and ever since it's made me consider looking at it in that way. So it's interesting you brought up civil wars. In the end, who really names all of these changes in societies?



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« Reply #2 on: Jul 24, 2018, 12:39:29 pm »
 

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Foreign influence is just about required for a revolution, even if it comes from within the society; as in, it's a foreign concept introduced by anyone from anywhere to overthrow the current form of society.

Usually, a revolution is always bad. Progress and/or restoration is what's needed in most places and unfortunately progress is associated with radical progressives these days. Progress just for the hell of it can be just as bad/borderline revolutionary. The terms associated with certain progression in history are used to make them all seem good. I would've loved to have been a part of the Industrial Revolution, but I'm also glad I wasn't there to see it's demise. I wouldn't have liked to have witnessed the Sexual Revolution, but I'm glad traditional relationships made a come back and I exist partly because of that lol  :-\ In my lifetime, the sexual revolution was mostly dead even in the most bohemian of circles I've come across. Then things like the Cultural Revolution in China were forced by the state and given a cool sounding name, used because of the association with the word revolution in other instances around the world. That's probably the most terrifying of them all I would guess.

I've also heard people say that the American Civil War was actually a revolution and ever since it's made me consider looking at it in that way. So it's interesting you brought up civil wars. In the end, who really names all of these changes in societies?



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" God keep us from any revolution"
Serbian poet M. Vojvodic

"Revolution is bad" ? Without American Revolution there will be no USA  :-\

Term Serbian Revolution is from German Historian Ranke. In Serbian schools we learn as a First and Second Serbian Uprising against Turkish slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Serbian_Uprising



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" God keep us from any revolution"
Serbian poet M. Vojvodic

"Revolution is bad" ? Without American Revolution there will be no USA  :-\

Term Serbian Revolution is from German Historian Ranke. In Serbian schools we learn as a First and Second Serbian Uprising against Turkish slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Serbian_Uprising

Ah, I said usually it's bad. Not always. Some of us have been lucky. The American Revolution and maintaining/trying to go back to, what came out of it, is exactly why I do this stuff.

What comes out of most revolutions is worse than what was before and the cycle continues.

P.S. I edited the other post to maybe be more clear.



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Ah, I said usually it's bad. Not always. Some of us have been lucky. The American Revolution and maintaining/trying to go back to, what came out of it, is exactly why I do this stuff.

What comes out of most revolutions is worse than what was before and the cycle continues.

P.S. I edited the other post to maybe be more clear.



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I agree.

Not ALL revolutions are bad, but few end well.

(a) The revolt is crushed, and lots of the rebels are hung.
(b) The new regime is just as bad as the old regime.
(c) The new regime is a satanic death cult bent on murdering by the million.

Its now openly been stated by Bannon, that he wants a Right Wing Revolution. So I think the topic is rather relevant.



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Foreign influence is just about required for a revolution, even if it comes from within the society; as in, it's a foreign concept introduced by anyone from anywhere to overthrow the current form of society.

Usually, a revolution is always bad. Progress and/or restoration is what's needed in most places and unfortunately progress is associated with radical progressives these days. Progress just for the hell of it can be just as bad/borderline revolutionary. The terms associated with certain progression in history are used to make them all seem good. I would've loved to have been a part of the Industrial Revolution, but I'm also glad I wasn't there to see it's demise. I wouldn't have liked to have witnessed the Sexual Revolution, but I'm glad traditional relationships made a come back and I exist partly because of that lol  :-\ In my lifetime, the sexual revolution was mostly dead even in the most bohemian of circles I've come across. Then things like the Cultural Revolution in China were forced by the state and given a cool sounding name, used because of the association with the word revolution in other instances around the world. That's probably the most terrifying of them all I would guess.

I've also heard people say that the American Civil War was actually a revolution and ever since it's made me consider looking at it in that way. So it's interesting you brought up civil wars. In the end, who really names all of these changes in societies?



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I was there for the sexual revolution...
and thank God that I was !

I say that because although AJ & his supporters seem to be pretty critical of Planned Parenthood and the like,
if it wasn't for them,
I probably would have gotten pregnant, had 4 kids,
been an unwed and unwanted to be mother,
never finished university or my PhD,
and not been able to help hundreds of people improve their lives,
nor taught hundreds of students how to save the lives of hundreds of people
in the USA and in Lithuania.

Not to mention the work I did to help veterans who survived Viet Nam,
their wives and children.

Now you folks may think that I'm bragging here...
(maybe I am )
but since I truly am dying from cancer,
I am re-evaluating my life with a therapist assisting me
so that I can die with a realistic perspective of my accomplishments.

I do thank God for all the psychotherapists who have helped me pull myself together
after my disastrous experiences with drugs, alcohol, men and unhappy marriages.

I do feel sad that so many of us lost our way by taking too casual an attitude toward the sexual  and chemical revolutions.

And I am grateful that I found my way back to God,
which enabled me to have the good sense to marry EG
who has been an absolute star of a spouse.

He is accompanying me with love and good judgment  by facing death with me in such a kindly manner.

I ask all of you out there to please be there for him
when I finally do pass away and meet my Maker.
I think he will put on a brave front while he struggles inside his heart.

But hey !
Let's not forget another aspect of the sexual revolution...
that made it all right for men to become more open in sharing their emotions.
So what if you do or do not eat quiche!
You guys are terrific!

I love all of you !

;)      :-*      XXXXXX



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And I am grateful that I found my way back to God,
which enabled me to have the good sense to marry EG
who has been an absolute star of a spouse.

He is accompanying me with love and good judgment  by facing death with me in such a kindly manner.

I ask all of you out there to please be there for him
when I finally do pass away and meet my Maker.
I think he will put on a brave front while he struggles inside his heart.

But hey !
Let's not forget another aspect of the sexual revolution...
that made it all right for men to become more open in sharing their emotions.
So what if you do or do not eat quiche!
You guys are terrific!

I love all of you !

;)      :-*      XXXXXX














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« Reply #7 on: Jul 24, 2018, 01:29:35 pm »
 

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Ah, I said usually it's bad. Not always. Some of us have been lucky. The American Revolution and maintaining/trying to go back to, what came out of it, is exactly why I do this stuff.

What comes out of most revolutions is worse than what was before and the cycle continues.

P.S. I edited the other post to maybe be more clear.



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Indeed. The Slaves must wait their "luck" 70 years but Indians their luck still wait.  :-\



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Are you talking about the Native Americans?

because if you are,
I think they are just starting to get some justice.

How?

By building many casinos that legally take back money from "the white man".
I support this "Native American Revolution" 100%.

I visited several when I still lived in the USA.
This movement was just starting to take off.
While I did not gamble,
I did contribute money by paying to tour the historic sites, buying jewelry, spending week-long vacation tours...
You get the picture.



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The reality is the establishment run nasty groups like this to do Operation Gladio in a massive Divide and Conquer.

Both sides, left and right, are dangerous and dream of hosting a Revolution, not because they are inherently Authoritarian as the Libertarians preach, its worse. What they, and other odiously dangerous political movements have in common, is that they are Utopian. Yup, the one word that links these groups and dooms their ideas is that all of them, at the core, are Utopian.

Successful Revolutions require some of the people in charge to manage to balance the Utopian with the Pragmatic. The American Insurgents in 1776 balanced Utopian ideals with Checks & Balances . . . Also, a lot of the motivation was pragmatic, and had everything to do with hard cash, indian wars, western expansion treaty shredding, slavery, and lots of other things American Patriots are quiet understandably inclined to forget.  Thing is, unless a Revolution is driven by a pragmatic need to change things for the better, and not some wet utopian fantasy, its gonna end badly.



Rise of the Reichsbuerger:
Sharp increase in number of extremists who reject 'modern Germany' (and they're mostly male, over 40 and love guns)


* BfV said in report that 'Reichsbuerger' movement grown from 10,000 to 16,500
* (Reichsbuergers - or Reich Citizens - do not accept modern Germany's borders
* Most members are male, over 40 and strongly attracted to firearms, BfV said

By Iain Burns For Mailonline and Associated Press
Published: 17:04, 24 July 2018
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5986945/Rise-Reichsbuerger-Sharp-increase-number-extremists-reject-modern-Germany.html



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Are you talking about the Native Americans?

because if you are,
I think they are just starting to get some justice.

How?

By building many casinos that legally take back money from "the white man".
I support this "Native American Revolution" 100%.

I visited several when I still lived in the USA.
This movement was just starting to take off.
While I did not gamble,
I did contribute money by paying to tour the historic sites, buying jewelry, spending week-long vacation tours...
You get the picture.

I wrote Indians but I am not intense to heart anybody.
"History" is good because we remembered on people like these.



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I heard this on TV for the first time today.

On this day in 1830, Belgium declared "independence" and secession from the Netherlands after pursuing heroism (" the Belgian Revolution"). But Nigel Farage has another opinion about Belgium and its formation:













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Think I will subscribe to Russia Insider channel, see how I get on. Thank you  Mr Bundy.



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On this day in Moscow in 1924 died of syphilis Vladimir I. Ulyanov called Lenin (54).



He was the leader of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and the first president of the Soviet Union.



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I thought that while it was reported that he died following a stroke, in fact Lenin had Sclerosis of the Brain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sclerosis_(medicine)



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I thought that while it was reported that he died following a stroke, in fact Lenin had Sclerosis of the Brain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sclerosis_(medicine)



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When asked if Lenin died of the consequences of syphilis or completed sclerosis, there is no unique answer. The official report of the pathologist says that he died of the consequences of sclerosis, but the extensive texts published by the Moscow weekly "Argument and Facts" (Russian Patriotic Portal) and "Agonyok" suggest that Lenin died of the consequences of his youthful sexual sin.

A well-known professor in Russia, neuropathologist Vasily Kramer ( Jew ? ), was in May 1922 the first diagnosis that Lenin was more and more difficult to talk about because of the clogging of blood vessels on the brain. However, a number of doctors looked for other causes of the disease. In March 1923, famous professors from Germany and Switzerland were invited * They laid Lenin another diagnosis - inflammation of the artery due to syphilis! Lenin was examined by professor Aleksej Kozhevnikov, an experienced neuropathologist, but he did not find confirmation of the diagnosis of colleagues from Germany in the blood tests. Then, Lenin examined Professor Mihail Averbach (another Jew ?), one of the more respected eye specialists. He also disagreed that Lenin was seriously ill with the painful consequences of syphilis. Averbuh did not find any symptoms on the eye to confirm that Leljin was suffering from syphilis, a disease that could cause changes in blood vessels on the brain.

source: Moscow correspondent B. Vlahovic for Serbian daily newspaper "V. Novosti"

* Again Switzerland and again the Germans are helping Lenin. I wonder why ?



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I agree,  there is no unique answer.
We will probably never, ever, be told the truth.



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The Industrial Revolution













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