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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #80 on: Apr 07, 2017, 10:37:11 pm »
 

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MOSES APOSTATICUS - 04/07/2017

The blast from the 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles which President Trump ordered to strike the al-Shayrat airfield in Syria on Thursday has since reverberated around the world. Many Americans are still waiting for the smoke to clear, to make sense of exactly what happened and why.

President Trump and his Secretary of State Rex Tillerson are unanimous in their conviction that the regime of Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons on his own people, thus justifying the attack. Everyday Americans are rightly skeptical when it comes to weapons of mass destruction being used to justify a possible war. We’ve heard it before.

Why would Assad use weapons of mass destruction against civilians when he was already winning the conflict? He is not a madman, and he would know the consequences.

Who benefits from such a tragedy, if not Assad?

The beneficiaries would include ISIS and the other Al-Qaeda spinoffs in the region. ISIS have made it clear that their strategy involves drawing the West, whom they call ‘the Romans,’ into an invasion and defeat in Syria. It is a major feature of their propaganda. ~>https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

"Trump promised to destroy ISIS and mend fences with Russia.
Americans chose the latter. Now many are wondering if there was a choice at all."


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Syria is a landmine, Mr. President. Only the jihadis and your deep state enemies, the neocons and war profiteers, want you to step on it. The rest of America are holding our breath, and wondering: Have we learned anything from this past century of bloodshed and horror?

√ Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/we-are-now-al-qaedas-air-force/#ixzz4dcp7I9Mp
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Re: Trump on Syria ? BONUS $5 Billion - Raytheon stock holders
« Reply #81 on: Apr 08, 2017, 04:33:41 am »
 

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Syria Airstrikes Instantly Added Nearly $5 Billion to Missile-Makers’ Stock Value
Jen Wieczner
Apr 07, 2017
FORTUNE
http://fortune.com/2017/04/07/syria-airstrikes-tomahawk-missile-boeing-raytheon-stock/


Raytheon stock surged Friday morning, after 59 of the company's Tomahawk missiles were used to strike Syria in Donald Trump's first major military operation as President.

ETC...
http://fortune.com/2017/04/07/syria-airstrikes-tomahawk-missile-boeing-raytheon-stock/
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Daddy Issues
« Reply #82 on: Apr 08, 2017, 04:42:11 am »
 

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The fundamental flaw in right wing strong man politics - Ya got Daddy Issues.
Ironic when complaining that the Left want the State to be their parents.

The Truth is the public as whole has parental issues because "they" do not want a society of mature adult voters.
Time to ditch the kids politics of name calling and focus intelligently with out prejudice on solutions for issues.
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Daddy Issues
« Reply #83 on: Apr 08, 2017, 05:07:29 am »
 

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"There comes a day in every child's life when his Daddy [Trump] bitterly disappoints him."
- Milo Yiannapolous


The fundamental flaw in right wing strong man politics - Ya got Daddy Issues.
Ironic when complaining that the Left want the State to be their parents.

The Truth is the public as whole has parental issues because "they" do not want a society of mature adult voters.
Time to ditch the kids politics of name calling and focus intelligently with out prejudice on solutions for issues.

You forgot that how I got elected in the 1930's was by appealing to all social groups

workers
middle classes
upper class, industrialists and aristocrats

that is why people to this day get into daft debates, "was Hilter left or right wing ?"

LOL
Fools

I left that behind, and shot to power behind the slogan
Making Germany Great Again

It all ended with me hiding out on a kibutz !
My politics changed post '45 while hiding on a Kibutz
 

Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #84 on: Apr 08, 2017, 06:19:54 am »
 

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It is not a coincidence theory
It does not justify bogger all.

Trump hails 'tremendous progress' with Chinese leader Xi
http://news.sky.com/story/trump-hails-tremendous-progress-with-chinese-leader-xi-10829201

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Re: Trump on Syria ? We Are Change + David Icke
« Reply #85 on: Apr 08, 2017, 07:11:17 am »
 

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #87 on: Apr 08, 2017, 07:26:33 am »
 

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #88 on: Apr 08, 2017, 07:43:05 am »
 

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... Putin is just as puzzled by the Trump
action against Assad as are we Trumpsters
here in USA are.


"The White House late Friday refused to say whether
strike was a one-off action or part of a new strategy
designed to hobble the military capabilities of
President Bashar al-Assad."


Syria strikes:
Site of chemical attack hit again

Euan McKirdy, Laura Smith-Spark and Barbara Starr
April 8, 2017

(CNN)[Breaking news update, published at 8:19 a.m. ET]

The Syrian city of Khan Sheikhoun -- the site of Tuesday's chemical attack -- was hit by airstrikes on Friday and Saturday, according to two activists in the city and regional activist groups.

At least one woman was killed and three other people injured in Saturday's strike, two activists in Khan Sheikhoun said.

It wasn't immediately clear who conducted Friday's and Saturday's strikes.

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A Russian frigate armed with cruise missiles was heading to the Mediterranean in an apparent show of force a day after the first direct military strike by the US against the Syrian regime.
Russian state media reported that the frigate, the Admiral Grigorovich, would call at a logistics base at Tartus, Syria. Russia also pledged to help strengthen Syria's air defenses after the US strike on the Shayrat airbase in western Syria.

√ w/VIDEO: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/08/middleeast/syria-strikes-russia-donald-trump/index.html?adkey=bn
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #89 on: Apr 08, 2017, 08:36:50 am »
 

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False Flag Evidence
Who reported and posted the "evidence" ?


Why that is an easy question to answer - Dr Shajul Islam

That Dr Shajul Islam was held in a Top Security Prison on Terrorism and Kidnapping charges . . .
The case was dropped because . . .


NHS doctor accused of Syrian kidnap has case dropped
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10441099/NHS-doctor-accused-of-Syrian-kidnap-has-case-dropped.html

Syria kidnap case against doctor dropped by prosecution
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24901481

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #90 on: Apr 08, 2017, 08:53:51 am »
 

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #91 on: Apr 08, 2017, 09:13:02 am »
 

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... Mr. Maddow & O’Donnell :  RUSSIA DID IT!

WTF?

MSNBC’s O’Donnell:
Maybe Putin Masterminded Chemical Attack So
Trump Could Look Good by Striking Syria

by IAN HANCHETT
7 Apr 2017

On Friday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Last Word,” anchor Lawrence O’Donnell stated that “if Vladimir Putin masterminded the last week in Syria, he has gotten everything he could have asked for.” O’Donnell then floated a theory that Putin told Syria’s Bashar al-Assad to launch a small chemical attack that was big enough to attract media attention and prompt President Trump into launching a missile strike, which would then change the subject from Russian influence.

O’Donnell said, “[W]ouldn’t it be nice if it was just completely, totally, absolutely impossible to suspect that Vladimir Putin orchestrated what happened in Syria this week so that his friend in the White House could have a big night, with missiles, and all of the praise he’s picked up over the last 24 hours? Wouldn’t it be so nice if you couldn’t even in your wildest dreams imagine a scenario like that?”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/04/07/msnbcs-odonnell-maybe-putin-masterminded-chemical-attack-so-trump-could-look-good-by-striking-syria/
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #92 on: Apr 08, 2017, 09:31:23 am »
 

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... Mr. Maddow & O’Donnell :  RUSSIA DID IT!

WTF?

MSNBC’s O’Donnell:
Maybe Putin Masterminded Chemical Attack So
Trump Could Look Good by Striking Syria

by IAN HANCHETT
7 Apr 2017

On Friday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Last Word,” anchor Lawrence O’Donnell stated that “if Vladimir Putin masterminded the last week in Syria, he has gotten everything he could have asked for.” O’Donnell then floated a theory that Putin told Syria’s Bashar al-Assad to launch a small chemical attack that was big enough to attract media attention and prompt President Trump into launching a missile strike, which would then change the subject from Russian influence.

O’Donnell said, “[W]ouldn’t it be nice if it was just completely, totally, absolutely impossible to suspect that Vladimir Putin orchestrated what happened in Syria this week so that his friend in the White House could have a big night, with missiles, and all of the praise he’s picked up over the last 24 hours? Wouldn’t it be so nice if you couldn’t even in your wildest dreams imagine a scenario like that?”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/04/07/msnbcs-odonnell-maybe-putin-masterminded-chemical-attack-so-trump-could-look-good-by-striking-syria/

Kinda debunks the 4D chess joke theory.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #93 on: Apr 08, 2017, 09:33:41 am »
 

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^^^

...  ;D  Maybe Putin's in the 4th Dimension?
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #94 on: Apr 08, 2017, 09:52:00 am »
 

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the most reasonable story I've heard so far is that an airborne attack was made ( possibly russian migs ) and bombed an area that contained chemical munitions on the ground , these chemicals were released into the area and killed all those people ... Also Sarin is not proven . Every indication is chemical suffocation .
I'm looking for the article ,... Anyway  ...it all seems obtuse .  Notice the words "Accused" as apposed to "proven"


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/syrian-chemical-attack-my-family-dropped-to-the-ground-one-by-one/news-story/c9c1c932a937a04608c1cbc28746ea0d
Syrian chemical attack: ‘my family dropped to the ground one by one’
    Laurance Norman, Bel Trew
    The Wall Street Journal
    12:00AM April 7, 2017
   
A day after a suspected chemical attack killed more than 80 people, the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun is almost deserted. Many of its residents have fled, while others fill living rooms in ­silence, traumatised.

An AFP correspondent said residents were still finding bodies around the town, including of a family that had hidden in a small cove they used as a bomb shelter and had never emerged.

On the road into town, a medic and his assistant are carefully putting remnants of what appears to be a missile into plastic bags.

“We took samples from the ­location of the strike, a specimen of the rocket, and animal and plant samples,” says Hazem, who heads Khan Sheikhoun’s medical office.

The boom of airstrikes can still be heard behind them, rattling a bright red sign marked with a skull and crossbones propped up on a nearby rock.

“We were promised that UN teams will come to examine the site … We are protecting the samples and cataloguing them so when any team comes they can see what happened to us here,” Hazem says.
,,,
The World Health Organisation says the symptoms, muscle spasms, constricted pupils, involuntary defecation, point to exposure to nerve agents such as sarin. Syria’s military denied any use of chemical weapons.

The UN Commission of Inquiry on Syria and the UN’s chemical arms watchdog say they are investigating the attack to determine whether chemical substances were used.

Syrian president Bashar al-Assad’s regime has been accused of using sarin in past attacks
. Doctors and rescue workers in and near Khan Sheikhoun described symptoms similar to those suffered by the victims of a 2013 sarin attack in the Damascus suburb of eastern Ghouta, in which 1429 people died.
...
 

Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #95 on: Apr 08, 2017, 09:55:28 am »
 

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the most reasonable story I've heard so far is that an airborne attack was made ( possibly russian migs ) and bombed an area that contained chemical munitions on the ground , these chemicals were released into the area and killed all those people ... Also Sarin is not proven . Every indication is chemical suffocation .
I'm looking for the article ,... Anyway  ...it all seems obtuse .  Notice the words "Accused" as apposed to "proven"



Absolutely, its Occam’s Razor wikipedia

Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.
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Re: Trump on Syria ? We Are Change + David Icke
« Reply #96 on: Apr 08, 2017, 09:57:42 am »
 

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Why Donald Trump Is Not The Answer, Alternative Media - David Icke & We Are Change - September 2016



That was really informative, thought-provoking, and Icke spoke eloquently about something I noticed after having been away from PPF for a few years... the fact that the former truth-seeking and false-flag-exposing alternative media I listened to for years, had transformed into a political action media campaign. All of a sudden, the investigation into the possibility of false flag attacks was shut down: and the globalist agenda was followed to the tee - no investigation, blame the 'muslims' (instead of exposing the 'muslim' patsy behind the deed.)

This just happened in Syria. NO INVESTIGATION, just shoot. And they blew apart defenses that Assad was using to fight the US-armed/trained ISIS and Al Qaeda terrorists - the people Assad was fighting against to protect his country. But that was getting in the way of regime change, after Hillary's failure to finish the job, Trump was brought in to do it. That's why we see all the globalist MSM, the think tank crews, the Kissinger's Clintons, Bidens, Obamas, the political puppets all cheering ... "now he's being presidential." As if he was ever a 'maverick' hero challenging the system. BS.

The disappointment that people have in Donald Trump's inability (or lack of desire) to extricate himself from the globalist agenda (witness the presence of Goldman Sachs in all the important positions - controlling our money), is because they wanted to believe there was a hero on a white horse come to save us all.

Icke points out the idea that the 'solution' is not rallying behind some constructed candidate put before you by the moneyed interests, but to rally together as people who share a common goal in seeking freedom, peace, prosperity and good health. That's something to fight for.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #97 on: Apr 08, 2017, 10:33:59 am »
 

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For something very different, try Adam Curtis newest documentary film Hyper-Normalisation
I must warn you its is a 3 hour film, although the BBC paid for it - its only been played on the online and only in the UK.

You probably need a big bag of weed and a case of beer if you plan on watching all 3 hours in the one sitting.  ???

Hence this is the Trailer . . .



The other one you probably have never seen is "Bitter Lake"
Here is the first 3 minutes.



This is a bit like Tragedy & Hope getting published, revelation of the method, either by mistake or deliberately would be a rather long and pointless debate.
I suspect they saw the product as "Artistic", they lacked the IQ or patience to see the full 3 hours and lacked the brain power to understand what they had just seen.
Remember the people in charge are the same type of fools who buy into concept art. Those people are not going to say "I did'nt get" and look stupid, of course the emperor is wearing clothes.

How you get hold of full copies, I'm not sure.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #98 on: Apr 08, 2017, 10:35:04 am »
 

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Let's see who's cheering about Trump's attack on Syria:

Look who support Trump’s missile strike on Syria
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/04/08/look-who-support-trumps-missile-strike-on-syria/

Posted on April 8, 2017 by Dr. Eowyn

In the early morning hours of April 7, 2017, the Trump administration fired 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles from a U.S. destroyer in the Mediterranean Sea, at Shayrat Air Base in Syria, alleged to be the location from where the Assad government, on April 4, allegedly launched a chemical attack of sarin nerve gas which killed many civilians, including women and children, in the rebel-held town of Khan Shaykhun in Idlib province.

Trump undertook this act of war against the legitimate government of a sovereign state
who has the support of Russia and China:

- without an official investigation of the alleged chemical attack
- without the approval of Congress
- without an act of aggression from the Syrian government against the United States
- without Syria presenting a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States
- without a prior consultation with Russia (or China), and in so not doing, risks WW3 with two world powers.

Here are the prominent Americans who support Trump’s missile attack:

(1) BILL KRISTOL
He who supported a third-party candidate against presidential candidate Trump, who finds Trump’s “America First” nationalism vulgar and embarrassing, who openly advocates a deep-state coup against President Trump — now approves of Trump risking WW3 by firing 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at Syria, without even an investigation as to who’d actually deployed the sarin gas attack.



(2) BRIAN WILLIAMS
The pathological liar and disgraced former NBC anchorman calls Trump’s missile strikes that killed 4 to 17 human beings, a “beautiful” sight:

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4n3SI81m9w

(3) PELOSI & SCHUMER
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D–CA) said, “Tonight’s strike in Syria appears to be a proportional response to the regime’s use of chemical weapons.” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–NY) said, “Making sure Assad knows that when he commits such despicable atrocities he will pay a price is the right thing to do.” (Wikipedia)

(4) A PACK OF RINOS
Senators John McCain (R–AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R–SC) said, “Unlike the previous administration, President Trump confronted a pivotal moment in Syria and took action. For that, he deserves the support of the American people.”

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R–WI) said the strike was “appropriate and just.”

Also Sens. Bob Corker (R-TN), Tom Cotton (R-AR), Joni Ernst (R-IA), Cory Gardner (R-CO), Orin Hatch (R-UT), David Perdue (R-GA), Marco Rubio (R-FL), Ben Sasse (R-NE), and Thom Tillis (R-NC).  (Wikipedia)

(5) HILLARY CLINTON
Yesterday, April 7, speaking to a crowd of supporters in Houston, Texas, Clinton applauds Trump’s missile strikes and urges him to undertake even more U.S. military action to take out Assad — and open America’s doors to Syrian refugees:

“The action taken last night needs to be followed by a broader strategy to end Syria’s civil war . . . . So I hope this administration will move forward [and] . . . recognize that they cannot in one breath speak of protecting Syrian babies and in the next close America’s doors to them.”

VIDEO: https://youtu.be/eHZYtci6HkQ

(6) THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
CNN Money reports, April 7, 2017, that Raytheon, the company that makes the Tomahawk missiles used in Trump’s air strikes on Syria, rose in early stock trading Friday. Investors are betting that Trump’s air strike means the Pentagon will need more Tomahawks.

The Department of Defense asked for $2 billion over five years to buy 4,000 Tomahawks for the U.S. Navy in its fiscal 2017 budget last February.

Nearly five dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched at military bases in Syria from U.S. warships in the Mediterranean Sea late Thursday.

Raytheon(RTN) wasn’t the only defense stock rising Friday either. Lockheed Martin (LMT), which partners with Raytheon on the Javelin missile launcher system and also makes Hellfire missiles, gained nearly 1%.

And so, Donald Trump finally achieves bipartisan support . . . . Sarc/

I have a question for all the conservatives out there who support Trump’s missile strike against the Assad government:

Weren’t you adamantly AGAINST Obama wanting to attack Assad in 2013?
Then, as now, the conditions are the same. Then, as now, the excuse for U.S. military action is Assad’s alleged chemical attacks and those poor little children.

So what has changed to account for your enthusiastic support to attack Syria now?

And how does launching 59 cruise missiles at Syria — only 23 (or 40%) of which actually hit the target — at a cost of $114.5 million (each Tomahawk costs $1.94 million), Make America Great Again?

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Re: Trump on Syria ? Russia says will shootdown any US Aircraft.
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Russia warns it will shoot down alliance jets over Syria if US launches air strikes against Assad
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/06/russian-air-defence-missiles-would-respond-if-us-launches-air-st/

Wikipeda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300VM

Russian forces could shoot down coalition jets if the United States launches airstrikes against pro-government forces in Syria, the Russian ministry of defence has said.

American officials have reportedly discussed using limited airstrikes to force Bashar al-Assad’s government to halt its assault on Aleppo and return the negotiating table after a ceasefire collapsed last month.

In Moscow’s starkest warning yet against Western intervention in the war, Russia’s chief military spokesman said that any airstrikes on government-held territory in Syria would be considered a “clear threat” to Russian servicemen.



US military planners should “carefully consider the possible consequences” of such action, Major General Igor Konashenkov said in a statement on Thursday.

“Today, the Syrian army has effective S-200, Buk and other air defense systems, which have undergone technical renovation in the past year,” he said.

“I remind US 'strategists' that air cover for the Russian military bases in Tartus and Hmeymim includes S-400 and S-300 anti aircraft missile systems, the range of which may come as a surprise to any unidentified flying objects,” he added.

Russian air defence troops would not have time to identify the flight path of incoming rockets or aircraft that fired them, and would respond immediately, Maj. Gen. Konashenkov added.




Officials from the State Department, CIA, and Joint Chiefs of Staff discussed using limited airstrikes to pressure Bashar al-Assad to halt an assault on Aleppo and return to the negotiating table at a meeting in the White House last week, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday.

The discussion came after the United States suspended bilateral consultations with Russia over Syria, saying that Moscow had failed to live up to commitments to rein in a ferocious aerial and ground assault on the opposition-held eastern districts of Aleppo.

Russia earlier rejected a calls from John Kerry, the US Secretary of State, for a total suspension of military flights over Syria in order to restore the ceasefire.

Moscow blames the collapse of a short lived ceasefire on a US-led alliance airstrike that mistakenly killed dozens of Syrian government soldiers on September 17. Maj. Gen Konashenkov said measures had been taken to prevent a repetition of such “mistakes.”

The US believes Russia and the Syrian regime destroyed the ceasefire when they bombed a humanitarian convoy in revenge.


Russia announced the deployment of the S-330 VM, an advanced anti-aircraft missile that can also intercept cruise missiles, to Syria on Tuesday.

Thursday's warning came as the Russian foreign ministry appeared to accuse the United States of involvement in a mortar attack on its Damascus embassy.

No one was hurt in the attack on Monday, which saw several rounds landed in the compound of the Russian embassy. The ministry said it believed the shells had been fired from a rebel-held neighbourhood.

“We see links between this terror attack and the threats Washington issued against us earlier,” said Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for the Russian foreign ministry.

She was referring to comments by John Kirby, a US State Department spokesman who  said last week that Russia had an interest in stopping the violence in Syria because extremists could exploit the vacuum there and launch attacks "against Russian interests, perhaps even Russian cities."


There has been mounting speculation in the Russian media that the crisis in Syria could lead to military confrontation or even war with the United States. 

Several newspapers have run prominent features asking whether Russia would act to protect her Syrian allies in the event of US airstrikes against pro-government troops or infrastructure.


The implications, many have noted, are alarming.

“If Moscow is silent, her geopolitical significance will be reduced to zero. If she answers – that is already a big war,” warned Nezavisimaya Gazeta noted on Thursday.

Semen Bagsadov, director of the Centre for Middle East and Central Asian Studies, told Moskovsky Komsomolets, a tabloid, that the Soviet Union had downed US aircraft over Korea and Vietnam without triggering a Third World War.

Others, however, have urged caution. Konstantin Sivkov, an expert at the Russian artillery academy, told the independent NSN new agency that war was unlikely because the United States could wipe out Russia’s air contingent in Syria “in a few days.”

Spiraling tensions between the US and Russia appeared to reach a peak this week when Vladimir Putin suspended a plutonium reprocessing deal because of “unfriendly” American policies.



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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #100 on: Apr 08, 2017, 11:59:19 am »
 

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... scary talk ... but it is 6 months old.
Surely, Mad Dog is not wanting to provoke
Russia to that degree ... they did, reportedly,
alarm Russia of the impending Tomahawk barrage.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #101 on: Apr 08, 2017, 12:02:40 pm »
 

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... scary talk ... but it is 6 months old.
Surely, Mad Dog is not wanting to provoke
Russia to that degree ... they did, reportedly,
alarm Russia of the impending Tomahawk barrage.

Even older

    The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.

    The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.

    The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

    Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

    Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

    This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #102 on: Apr 08, 2017, 12:27:53 pm »
 

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    Yes, the muslim Apocalypse from the 19th C., perspective
of Albert Pike. It was clear then that it was coming ... we just
do not want this to be another self-fullfilled prophecy ... but
if it must be, the world is dividing between those who want
to bring it to a conclusion ASAP and those who wish to appease,
sweep under the rug, pray for the Second Coming.

But, Pike could not have forseen the 'Information Age', the Internet,
the staggering laying bare of the Masonic Order/Illuminati, etc.,
for all to see.
St. Augustine: “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself.'
 

Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #103 on: Apr 08, 2017, 01:04:34 pm »
 

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Albert Pike
Confederate States Army general and Freemason
Albert Pike (December 29, 1809 – April 2, 1891) was an attorney, soldier, writer, and Freemason.
Albert Pike is the only Confederate military officer
with an outdoor statue in Washington, D.C




From the cover of Pike's book, Morals and Dogma (1871)

Ordo ab Chao ... Order out of Chaos.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #104 on: Apr 08, 2017, 01:24:08 pm »
 

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... I wonder where the 'order' went?   ;D
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Re: Open for business: Syrian airbase attcked by Trump flying missions
« Reply #105 on: Apr 08, 2017, 01:26:49 pm »
 

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The target of Trump's night of the small hands launching long missiles, the Shayrat airbase, is already flying missions.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/syrian-air-base-donald-trump

 

Re: Open for business: Syrian airbase attcked by Trump flying missions
« Reply #106 on: Apr 08, 2017, 01:50:55 pm »
 

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The target of Trump's night of the small hands launching long missiles, the Shayrat airbase, is already flying missions.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/syrian-air-base-donald-trump

Bad news for ISIS and the White House.



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Re: Open for business: Syrian airbase attcked by Trump flying missions
« Reply #107 on: Apr 08, 2017, 02:10:15 pm »
 

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Bad news for ISIS and the White House.

Some people forgot that the White House is allied with Isis (and all other globalist operations), regardless of who the current tenant is.
 

Re: Open for business: Syrian airbase attcked by Trump flying missions
« Reply #108 on: Apr 08, 2017, 02:40:25 pm »
 

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Some people forgot that the White House is allied with Isis (and all other globalist operations), regardless of who the current tenant is.




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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #109 on: Apr 08, 2017, 03:36:57 pm »
 

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    Yes, the muslim Apocalypse from the 19th C., perspective
of Albert Pike. It was clear then that it was coming ... we just
do not want this to be another self-fullfilled prophecy ... but
if it must be, the world is dividing between those who want
to bring it to a conclusion ASAP and those who wish to appease,
sweep under the rug, pray for the Second Coming.

But, Pike could not have forseen the 'Information Age', the Internet,
the staggering laying bare of the Masonic Order/Illuminati, etc.,
for all to see.

So to summarize :

You know the whole muslim thing was planned by the illuminati years ago as illustrated prev.
Your conclusion is to accelerate and go flat out with the illuminati plan.

Do I need to tell you what we think of that idea as a battleplan ?
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Re: Trump on Syria ? Kremlin announces cartoon competition to mock Boris
« Reply #110 on: Apr 08, 2017, 05:36:33 pm »
 

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Boris the 'poodle' is savaged by the Kremlin: Foreign Secretary is accused of 'making up absurd excuses' to pull out of Moscow summit on Syrian war


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4393954/Boris-poodle-savaged-Kremlin.html

The Kremlin launched a furious attack on Boris Johnson yesterday after he cancelled a Moscow summit on the Syrian war.

Russia accused the Foreign Secretary of ‘making up absurd excuses’ after he made way for Donald Trump to lead the diplomatic drive. And at home, opponents dubbed him a ‘poodle’ of Washington.

But Mr Johnson, who was due to fly to the country today, insisted he had axed the trip to enable US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to deliver ‘a clear and co-ordinated message’ to Vladimir Putin.



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Re: Trump on Syria ? - doing an Obama impersonation
« Reply #111 on: Apr 08, 2017, 05:42:46 pm »
 

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Meanwhile our glorious leader is doing an Obama Impersonation, you know lives on the Golf Course.

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #112 on: Apr 08, 2017, 09:13:07 pm »
 

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So to summarize :

You know the whole muslim thing was planned by the illuminati years ago as illustrated prev.
Your conclusion is to accelerate and go flat out with the illuminati plan.

Do I need to tell you what we think of that idea as a battleplan ?

... well I don't buy that it was 'planned' by a small group of
wacky big pockets guys in the 19th century. This was an
inevitable 'clash of civilizations' ... EAST vs WEST ... that
had major flareups/clashes before, with major incursions
into the West, Ottoman Empire, etc. I believe Pike (if
that letter is authentic - I have researched and posted
about it at PPF - but I wonder ... he mentions NAZIs in 1871!)
was simply 'prophesizing' ... reading the tea leaves.
It's puzzling to me how informed folks can't see the obvious
multi-century frictions that have heated up now and is
bursting into flames ... no kindling needed by Mr. Rothschild.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #113 on: Apr 08, 2017, 10:44:58 pm »
 

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Increasingly Likely Rebels Were Storing Chemical
Weapons and Syrian Jets Hit Warehouse

Why else would victims show evidence of exposure to multiple poison gases?
RI Staff - Apr 7, 2017

Have you ever heard of a bomb that combines two poison gases? No? Neither have we.

That's curious because in the April 4 Khan Shaikhun incident in Syria, chemical weapons were supposedly delivered by an air strike, specifically an Su-22 attack jet.

Except Doctors Without Borders (by no means a pro-Assad outfit) are saying that "victims bodies show evidence of two chemical weapons used".

Call us crazy but that would be perfectly consistent with the explanation the Russians provided initially (and US dismissed out of hand): that Khan Shaikhun was a storehouse for rebel chemical weapons that was hit by conventional explosive bombs by the Syrian army.

How else to account for victims having been exposed to sarin and chlorine both? An attack combining the two would make little sense, but two toxins would absolutely be stored together if the opposition indeed had both.

Indeed, a former DIA and CIA officer Philip Giraldi has raised alarm. He is saying that his friends still in the intelligence agencies consider the narrative that Assad did it a "sham" and considered going public to stop Trump's strike. According to Giraldi the US officers familiar with the intelligence actually subscribe to the Russian explanation that Syrian jets hit a rebel storage facility.

Finally, the official who led the UN-backed operation to remove Syria’s chemical weapons in 2013, one Jerry Smith, is adamant the possibility that poison gases were released when a rebel chemical weapons storage facility was hit by a conventional Syrian bomb can not be dismissed. See his appearance at Britain's Channel 4: Link» https://www.channel4.com/news/syria-chemical-attack-reaction

http://russia-insider.com/en/incresingly-likely-rebels-had-gas-and-syrian-jets-hit-storehouse/ri19491
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Chemical Weapons Containers at Bombed Syrian Airfield - Debunked !

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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Calling Putin's Military Bluff ?
« Reply #115 on: Apr 09, 2017, 03:41:49 am »
 

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Here is the latest "narrative" . . .
Putin's is WEAK
SAFE to attack Putin


Weakened Putin's last great bluff:
Military experts dismiss Russian president's threats to block further US attacks on Syria, saying he's desperate to avoid a clash with America
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4394198/Experts-dismiss-Putin-s-threats-block-attacks.html

All 59 US Tomahawk missiles fired from the USS Ross and USS Porter in the Mediterranean slipped through Syria’s primitive S-300 defence system on their way to the Shayrat military airfield near Homs on Friday morning.



LIES of the 59 missiles, 36 got shot down.


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Re: Trump on Syria ? - British say Putin MUST leave Syria
« Reply #116 on: Apr 09, 2017, 04:21:34 am »
 

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Boris Johnson . . .
The idiotic headline says it all . . .
Trump Fanboyz who spun the 4D Chess take note . . .
Appeasement of Washington Hawks only encourages the bullies

Boris Johnson to spearhead diplomatic drive to get Russian forces out of Syria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/boris-johnson-spearhead-diplomatic-drive-get-russian-forces/


I guess he did not like the Cartoon Competiton to mock Boris announced by Kremlin ;-)

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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Drone Camera over Bombed Airbase
« Reply #117 on: Apr 09, 2017, 04:37:24 am »
 

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Russian Drone footage of Shayrat base after US airstrike


Drone footage of Shayrat airbase, after the US had launched Tomahawk missiles at the base. According to the statement, the US missiles killed 6 people and destroyed a training facility, a material storage depot, a canteen, six MiG-23 aircraft in repair hangars and a radar station. Meanwhile, the airbase’s runway, taxiways and aircraft on the parking apron remained undamaged.

 Only 23 out of 59 Tomahawk missiles reached their target.

 Chief of the Directorate of Media service and Information of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation, Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov described the combat efficiency of the strike as “quite poor” and added that the US actions were “a gross violation” of the memorandum of understanding on flight safety in Syria between Russia and the United States. Russian Defence Minsitry said they are going to upgrade Syrian air defence.
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Journalist speaks the candid truth
« Reply #118 on: Apr 09, 2017, 04:44:24 am »
 

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IF you do not watch any pf the other videos I posted
(understandable)
Make Sure You Watch this one !


What is really going on in Syria
Exclusive interview with British Journalist Tom Duggan in Damascus at the French Hospital tells us about the chemical attacks accusations.

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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Clash of Civilisations ?
« Reply #119 on: Apr 09, 2017, 04:58:31 am »
 

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... well I don't buy that it was 'planned' by a small group of
wacky big pockets guys in the 19th century. This was an
inevitable 'clash of civilizations' ... EAST vs WEST ... that
had major flareups/clashes before, with major incursions
into the West, Ottoman Empire, etc.
I believe Pike (if
that letter is authentic - I have researched and posted
about it at PPF - but I wonder ... he mentions NAZIs in 1871!)
was simply 'prophesizing' ... reading the tea leaves.
It's puzzling to me how informed folks can't see the obvious
multi-century frictions that have heated up now and is
bursting into flames ... no kindling needed by Mr. Rothschild.


Clash of Civilisations ?

The goal of ISIS and the Illuminati - and you are in favour ?
Just whose side do you think you are on ?

Next there is no Islamic Empire to clash with, just the inheritance of a post-colonial middle east shattered into at least a hundred different factions.
Who did that - why Henry Kissinger . . . is he your poster boy hero ?


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He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”
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