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Trump on Syria ?
« on: Apr 05, 2017, 03:08:52 pm »
 

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LIVE - False Flag In Syria ! - Infowars
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LIVE! False Flag In Syria!
Establishment calls for war as Syrian crisis intensifies
Infowars.com - April 5, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/live-false-flag-in-syria/
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - "has 'responsibility' to act"
« Reply #2 on: Apr 05, 2017, 04:42:44 pm »
 

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Donald Trump says he has changed his position on Bashar al-Assad and Syria after chemical weapons attack and has 'responsibility' to act
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/05/donald-trump-says-has-changed-position-bashar-al-assad-syria/
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #3 on: Apr 06, 2017, 04:00:02 am »
 

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
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Anybody got any ideas what action Trump will take ?

My best guess is that it will be something like a Cruise Missile strike or another type of Stand Off Weapon on Syrian Air Defences.

(a) Does not risk any dead bodies of any American troops. While not many people instantly think of the tragic attempt to use special forces to rescue the hostages in Iran under President Peanut, the Pentagon and White House have longer memories. Use of Stand Off Weapons

(b) ISIS does not have an Air-force, so it can be spun that Trump is not giving Air Support to ISIS. This is more than a little distorted, as one of the reasons Assad is defeating ISIS is because he has an Air Force. Remember Libya ? Besides which the entire Allied doctrine from 1944 onwards is based on Air Superiority. Anyway, they could sell it to the public via the press.

(c) Putin is to responsible to over react, some thing Trump will have to rely upon. Because the possibility of dead Russian Soldiers around an S-300 battery is a distinct possibility.

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Re: Trump on Syria ? [ Why is nobody commenting ? ]
« Reply #5 on: Apr 06, 2017, 06:11:15 am »
 

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #6 on: Apr 06, 2017, 06:20:33 am »
 

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... I think cooler heads will prevail. There reports are credible that
it may have been another set-up or false flag ... other reports
that they have found chemical weapons shells at the site which
were stored/placed there and were exploded by conventional
shelling ... other reports that there may have been an ISIS
truck exploded that had the gas aboard. If ISIS or any of the other
groups could have rigged this, they certainly would have ... and
of course the anti-Trump, anti-Russian, anti-Assad left media are gonna
play it for all it's worth. But we may see Trump led to a big
gaping trap ... and fall in.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #7 on: Apr 06, 2017, 06:42:24 am »
 

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False Flag ?
hmm... depends on how we re-define or stretch the meaning.

I do think is that a plane dropped a bomb on one of the munitions dumps - from the very first instant I saw it on the news.
I bet a few of us thought that, the minute it flashed on the news wires.


I think the headline writers at Infowars - acting under pressure - came up with a slogan, a sound bite, that pushed the message it is a HOAX Attack
What Infowars did, in haste, is also an almighty mistake - but I'll leave it up to other people to work out why....

I got to go back to chores, but I will be back for the next smoke break and coffee.
Thank you for replying - I was really, really, beginning to wonder if either nobody cared or people was just in a state of U-Turn paralysis










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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #8 on: Apr 06, 2017, 07:11:01 am »
 

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^^^

... as far as the term 'false flag' I was thinking
about the last big international stink about
chemical war in the area ... and after reading this:


‘FALSE FLAG’ — Ron Paul Says Syrian Chemical
Attack ‘Makes No Sense’ [VIDEO]


√ Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/05/it-makes-no-sense-ron-paul-thinks-syrian-chemical-attack-was-a-false-flag-video/#ixzz4dTErdzHk
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #9 on: Apr 06, 2017, 07:39:48 am »
 

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I'm just hinting that it was a foolish choice of words.

False Flag

The person who wishes to "go to war"
Makes an attack under "false colours"
Public reaction demands "justice", like a B-52 strike or what ever.

If its a False Flag, then the person who wants to do the reaction bit -> Trump
Is the same person who engineered the attack in the first place....

Ok, I'm in a hurry, but now do you see why its not a good idea to go down that path.

Yes its a HOAX
NO its not a False Flag.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #10 on: Apr 06, 2017, 08:28:59 am »
 

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... I don't think it was intentional by
the Russian/Syrian/Iranian forces ...
either a weapons 'dump' at the site
(though Obama said there were
no more gases in Syria), a placement
of a load of gas in a truck or other
means in a 'false flag' move by the
rebel forces.
We'll see  ...  but
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
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We saw in the past two things, in Syria :

(a) The crude front line munitions factories, yards from the front line.
(b) The Rebels are making chemical weapons.

Neither of these are common knowledge to the voting public, thanks to "the media".


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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #12 on: Apr 06, 2017, 08:52:06 am »
 

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When I ran my standard "Cui Bono"

The answer I got was nobody stands to benefit.

Russians - don't be daft
Assad - don't be daft
Trump - don't be daft
Iran - don't be daft
Lebanon - don't be daft
Etc...

Now Trump is in a bad position :

He can prove he is a Russian Agent, (gawd I hate and detest that Meme).
He can prove he was a lying hypocrite when he mocked Obama's Red Lines.

IMHO
Trump's best bet is to sound tough now, let things cool down, then sound intelligent and fair by asking reasonable questions later.

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #13 on: Apr 06, 2017, 11:20:42 am »
 

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Well AJ is giving a decent commentary and this is a better headline  8)

Congressman: 'I don't think' Assad is behind Syria attack
By Eleanor Mueller, CNN


Washington (CNN)Republican Rep. Thomas Massie expressed doubt Wednesday that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is responsible for Tuesday's chemical attack, and reinforced his stance that US intervention could "end up making the situation worse."
Speaking on CNN's "At This Hour" with Kate Bolduan, the Kentucky lawmaker told the host that he didn't think the Syrian leader launched the attack, and that further intervention by the US government may aggravate the situation.

"Frankly, I don't think Assad would have done that," Massie said. "It does not serve his interests."
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This is the sort of thing I do NOT want to see !
This disgusting drivel has the largest circulation figs. owned by R.MURDOCK

The Sun
SWAMPING SOCIAL MEDIA
Sick trolls claim Syria gas massacre was a ‘deep state’ false flag operation designed to trick Donald Trump into war with Assad


The suspected chemical attack in northern Syria killed more than 70 people including children and babies
By Mark Hodge
6th April 2017, 2:13 pm
Updated: 6th April 2017, 3:27 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3271382/syria-gas-attack-donald-trump-assad-false-flag-operation-trolls/


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More deep fried faeces, this time the Huffington Gross


Syria Gas Attack 'False Flag' Accusations And Why They're Totally Wrong
Genuine fake news.
06/04/2017 15:12 | Updated 1 hour ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/syria-gas-attack-false-flag_uk_58e5e0f6e4b06a4cb30f2fe1
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
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The highlights . . .

conspiracy nuts claim the atrocity was orchestrated by the ‘deep state’.
 - The Sun

British far-right conspiracy theorist Paul Joseph Watson is one of the ‘truthers’ peddling the vile claims online.
- The Sun

Speaking on his YouTube show ‘The Liberty Report’, far-right politician Paul said he believed the atrocity in Syria was carried out to force regime change in the country.
- The Sun

The closing Conclusion :

Richard Spencer, the so-called leader of the Alt-Right movement on the fringes of US politics, has also retweeted posts which claim anti-Assad reporters knew about the attack beforehand.
He also tweeted out his own video blog which poses the question: "Will Trump Gas His Presidency Over Syria?"
Spencer, who has been branded a white supremacist by his critics, also retweeted a post which supported the theory that Assad was not behind the atrocity.
The post read: "Assad whatever else he might be is smart enough to be a MD,why would he do the ONE thing guaranteed to get him in trouble with the Empire?"

- The Sun


Its only one of the biggest english language papers on the planet. Incidentally, the problem is people pass it around at work, one copy sold is reckoned to be read by 6 people.



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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #17 on: Apr 06, 2017, 12:04:34 pm »
 

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On a more positive note :
Assuming that this all blows over then a heck of a lot of people will have learnt what a False Flag is . . . and heard of Watson, Jones, etc . .


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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #18 on: Apr 06, 2017, 12:55:56 pm »
 

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The question is : Has Trump been (completely?) captured by the NeoCon 's and their false flag syria nwo scenario ?

Between North Korea missiles  and Syria chem attacks .... a rock and a hard place ... 

as a note Assad has no need nor would it be in his  interest  to use a sarin gas attack ... while it is obviously in the realm of the no conscious  killers of ISIS and those creating the false flag need of NWO- USA military intervention ..

timing is also in the focus ... Susan Rice in charge of spying on Trump ... Weiner/Podesta pedophilia ... hmmmmmmm ..

timing again is the nsc  decapitation of Bannon ...  removal is the another straw ...
 
 

Re: Trump on Syria ?
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The question is : Has Trump been (completely?) captured by the NeoCon 's and their false flag syria nwo scenario ?

That is a very good and concise description of what we "see" from the reporting we are getting.


Between North Korea missiles  and Syria chem attacks .... a rock and a hard place ... 

Does look like some hawks are trying to squeeze him as hard as possible, but I'd be surprised if he does not reflect, rethink, and make another change of  direction, given time to manoeuvre.


as a note Assad has no need nor would it be in his  interest  to use a sarin gas attack ... while it is obviously in the realm of the no conscious  killers of ISIS and those creating the false flag need of NWO- USA military intervention ..

Absolutely, the one criminal we can rule out as suspect.


timing is also in the focus ... Susan Rice in charge of spying on Trump ... Weiner/Podesta pedophilia ... hmmmmmmm ..

timing again is the nsc  decapitation of Bannon ...  removal is the another straw ...

I'm still thinking that one over, but you are right to question The Timing Factor.
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..But now he has let the Demons from DC run his program....Bad move on the man who coined 'The Art of The Deal!'

...DC is the heart of Hell and President Trump better understand this and fast!!!

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Rex Tillerson . . . .

'Something should happen' says Trump after Syria gas-attack atrocity as his secretary of state reveals plans for international coalition to topple Assad
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4387498/Trump-considersmilitary-strikes-Syria-gas-horror.html
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The President of China is arriving in Washington to meet Trump

Live
Donald Trump faces first major foreign policy tests over Syria crisis and visit of Chinese president

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/06/donald-trump-faces-first-major-foreign-policy-tests-syria-crisis/
Xi Jinping arrives in Florida for key summit
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The President of China is arriving in Washington to meet Trump

Wonder if this is the story behind the story, going into the negotiation with china regarding the s. china sea and trump demonstrating to the chinese american power exersised by a strong man president ?

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #24 on: Apr 06, 2017, 09:01:03 pm »
 

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... this is bad.

Trump Orders Strikes Against Syrian Regime
Airbase in Response to Chemical Attack

KRISTINA WONG - 6 Apr 2017

WASHINGTON –President Trump has ordered cruise missile strikes against a Syrian regime military airbase, a defense official said late Thursday.

A U.S. official said “more than 50” Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched at the airbase, located in Western Syria. That base was where the U.S. believes the Assad regime carried out a chemical weapons attack on Syrian civilians this week. The strikes were carried out from two U.S. destroyers in the Mediterranean Sea.

Trump is expected to give a statement later Thursday.
CNN reported that the attack was carried out between 8 and 9 p.m. ET.


Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) praised the strikes during an interview with CNN.

“I think it was an important step,” he said. “This was not some symbolic measure.”

According to Fox New, President Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that the strikes were in the “vital national security interest of the United States.”

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/06/trump-orders-strikes-syrian-regime-airbase-response-chemical-attack/
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
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... this is bad.

Trump Orders Strikes Against Syrian Regime
Airbase in Response to Chemical Attack

KRISTINA WONG - 6 Apr 2017

WASHINGTON –President Trump has ordered cruise missile strikes against a Syrian regime military airbase, a defense official said late Thursday.

A U.S. official said “more than 50” Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched at the airbase, located in Western Syria. That base was where the U.S. believes the Assad regime carried out a chemical weapons attack on Syrian civilians this week. The strikes were carried out from two U.S. destroyers in the Mediterranean Sea.

Trump is expected to give a statement later Thursday.
CNN reported that the attack was carried out between 8 and 9 p.m. ET.


Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) praised the strikes during an interview with CNN.

“I think it was an important step,” he said. “This was not some symbolic measure.”

According to Fox New, President Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that the strikes were in the “vital national security interest of the United States.”

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/06/trump-orders-strikes-syrian-regime-airbase-response-chemical-attack/

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
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I am felling betrayed, this make me sick.
Proverbs 13:12  Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.

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The doctor that reported that 'gas attack' has an interesting background.
Previously he had been in Belmarsh for kiddnapping journalists in Syria...
The court case was dropped because both witnesses had 'accidents' and unable to testify in court.


UK-trained doctor hailed a hero for treating gas attack victims in Syria stood trial on terror offences ‘and belonged to the group that kidnapped British reporter John Cantlie’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4388780/Doctor-Syria-stood-trial-terror-offences.html


A UK-trained doctor, who was hailed a hero for treating gas attack victims in Syria, stood trial on terror offences and allegedly belonged to the group that kidnapped British journalist John Cantlie.

At least 86 people, including 20 children, died in Tuesday's attack on a rebel-held town in Idlib province. Dozens more were left gasping for air, convulsing and foaming at the mouth.

Dr Shajul Islam, from East London, published a video of the patients on his Twitter account after the attack.  He said his hospital took care of three victims all with narrow, pinpoint pupils that did not respond to light.

The University of London graduate was arrested and charged with kidnapping two journalists - Mr Cantlie and Dutch reporter Jeroen Oerlemans - in 2012 but was released after the trial collapsed when neither of the prosecution's witnesses were able to give evidence.



He has always protested his innocence, saying he went to Syria to use his medical skills to treat victims of the civil war.

Dr Islam, worked as a doctor at St Bart's hospital, is currently removed from the medical register after a fitness to practise hearing at the General Medical Council in March.

After the criminal case against him collapsed, and he was found not guilty, he faced close monitoring by the security services.

According to a GMC report, a secret tribunal panel heard the disciplinary case against Dr Islam in March this year and banned him for misconduct. The hearing was held in private so the details of the misconduct are not publicly known.

At the time of his 2012 prosecution Dr Islam, then 28, and a second man, Jubayer Chowdhury, then 24, were the only alleged British jihadists charged with kidnapping Westerners in Syria.

The pair — held in high security Belmarsh prison — walked free from court after all charges were dropped.

At the start of the hearing in November 2013, prosecutor Mark Dennis QC told the court that all evidence against the brothers rested on the two victims, who were unable to be called, and therefore could not proceed with the case.

A verdict of not guilty was recorded for the charge of kidnapping.

Media reports later suggested Islam may have held the key to the then unknown identity of Jihadi John, who was later unmasked as Mohammed Emwazi.

In his YouTube video of the toxic attack on Tuesday, Dr Islam said: 'The patients keep just flooding in from this chemical attack,' he says in a Twitter video , purportedly taken inside a Syrian hospital this morning. 'Every one - every one - has got pinpoint pupils'.

'The patients keep coming, we've run out of ventilators,' the humanitarian aid added.

'We don't have enough ventilator space, so we're now taking out the transport ventilators we have in our ambulances and we're going to try to modify them to see if we can use them for our patients.'

Dr Islam said that it was 'definitely not a chlorine attack', suggesting that the more severe sarin was used. 

Footage from his hospital shows adults and children lying on hospital beds unresponsive, as medics work to save their lives. 

'I will show you the evidence again and again, but you know what? The world doesn't care and no-one is doing anything,' says Dr Islam.

'We urge you to put pressure on your government - put pressure on anyone - to help us.'

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #29 on: Apr 07, 2017, 04:41:06 am »
 

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Washington's 'red line' in Syria is Assad defeating ISIS

Think about it.

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Re: Trump on Syria - Planned before Gas Attack - says Russia
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BRINK OF WW3: ‘You PLANNED THIS!’ Putin accuses USA of plotting strike BEFORE chemical hit
RUSSIA has accused the US and Donald Trump of plotting its missile strike on a Syrian airbase days before the deadly chemical weapons attack which killed 70 people.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/789063/WW3-Syria-missile-strike-Russia-Vladimir-Putin-Donald-Trump-world-war-three

Adding the missile strike broke international law, Russia’s foreign ministry also said it was “obvious” that the US strikes had been prepared before the chemical attack.
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I am felling betrayed, this make me sick.
Proverbs 13:12  Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.


Hey ... Jacob Law ... great to hear from you, bro!
I hope all is well.

This Syrian attack makes me sick as well. I just don't
understand it at all. All of Trump's supporters are
totally taken aback. And this trumped-up BS
chemical weapons story is ridiculous.
This is opposite everything we were led to
believe about Trump's intentions in the mid-east ...
even the Democrats are utterly confused.

There is something about this that we are not being told.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
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FLASHBACK

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official <-- 2013
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - David Icke
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From David Icke's



Infowars - blindly and brazenly promoting a child-like insane narcissist has been 'fun'
By Andrew Cheetham on 7 April 2017 GMT



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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #34 on: Apr 07, 2017, 07:12:51 am »
 

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This is a disastrous blunder from Trump, but a predictable one.

I maintain that Trump was the establishment candidate elected under anti-establishment cover. His cover has been shaky for quite a while, but hopefully now it's totally blown, and the scales should be falling from even the most encrusted eyes.
 

Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #35 on: Apr 07, 2017, 07:17:40 am »
 

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This is a disastrous blunder from Trump, but a predictable one.

I maintain that Trump was the establishment candidate elected under anti-establishment cover. His cover has been shaky for quite a while, but hopefully now it's totally blown, and the scales should be falling from even the most encrusted eyes.

Hey good to see you, all are welcome.
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Rand Paul comments
« Reply #36 on: Apr 07, 2017, 07:30:00 am »
 

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'While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The President needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate.'
 - Rand Paul
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Rand Paul comments
« Reply #37 on: Apr 07, 2017, 07:59:54 am »
 

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'While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The President needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate.'
 - Rand Paul


Rand Paul is the president we should have had, but the so-called libertarians deserted him in favor of a showman who gave good speech.
 

Re: Trump on Syria ? - Rand Paul comments
« Reply #38 on: Apr 07, 2017, 08:02:38 am »
 

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Rand Paul is the president we should have had, but the so-called libertarians deserted him in favor of a showman who gave good speech.

Well he was better than some others I could name, but nothing like his father.

Anyway my bias, is, I'm a bit of political atheist - I dont believe in politicians, just issues
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - Farage & UKIP comments
« Reply #39 on: Apr 07, 2017, 08:10:42 am »
 

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Farage criticises Trump for launching strikes on Syria as UKIP leader Paul Nuttall describes the attack as 'trigger happy and nonsensical'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4389590/Farage-lays-Trump-strikes-Syrian-regime.html

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