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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #25 on: Aug 24, 2017, 11:00:59 am »
 

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Dear Judge,

First let me welcome you to this forum.
Please believe me when I say I am feeling quite honoured that you have asked me  to answer these questions.
I see that your  questions to me make up your 2nd post.
I wonder if you have been watching us for sometime, but "testing the waters" before jumping in,
just like I used to do when deciding whether to dive into the Atlantic Ocean.

So here goes...and this is my assessment of what has happened to PPF.
It make take a couple of posts to sufficiently answer you.
Keep in mind that you can always private message me for clarification.

First, when we say we say that we believe that he has "sold out", MY understanding is that AJ has stopped thinking critically about who Trump is,
what he represents, and how Trump has taken a U Turn on his campaign promises.

Instead he has become an apologist for Trump, defending the Prez's every move , backslide, and return to a previous position.
As Trump floats from position to position, AJ is there just like an inner tube, leading his diehard fans/followers
in supporting Trump.

Why did he choose to support Trump, someone with a long history of relationships with the members of the "swamp" which he promised to drain ?
Why does AJ support TRump who filled his cabinet positions with members of Goldman Sachs, et al,
the SAME people whom AJ has been warning us against for so many years ?

Why do Trump's appointees keep resigning quickly or end up being fired quickly ?
The former AJ would be pointing out these strange events , stepping back form the info, and trying to analyze these situations
with a more open mind.
Just substitute the name Hillary for Trump, and imagine how differently AJ would be reacting !

Something or things must have happened in his personal and /or political life to bring about such a U TURN in AJ,.
He used to boast how he would get phone calls from "anonymous" voices threatening his life and the lives of his family.
His response to those threatening him on the air was always something like, "Just try. I'll be waiting for you".
Or so he said.
Maybe it never happened at all and was just part of a story that he was weaving.

Have you heard anything like that lately ? Seriously ?
As for what MIGHT have happened to divert him from his Libertarian ideals, that is open to speculation.
I will give you my opinion in the next post, but I encourage all other members of this forum to provide their perspectives  as well.

I no longer use a crystal ball !  lol

I cannot believe that AJ does not know that TRump is in debt to the bankers who supported both Hillary & trump's campaigns for presidency.

Why did AJ NOT support the Libertarian 3rd party candidate,
as AJ has built a career spouting out that the left/right paradigm is bs...both the Dems & the Republicans serve the same masters.



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #26 on: Aug 24, 2017, 11:13:37 am »
 

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Phoenix Rising

Thank you for your thoughtful response...It appears there is much more thoughtful discussion here than there is on the Prison Planet Forum...I maybe totally off base, but it seems to me that Alex Jones is just pushing the right/left paradigm....the very thing that he was preaching against years ago...I look forward to reading more of your posts...



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #27 on: Aug 24, 2017, 11:34:11 am »
 

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Thank you for your thoughtful response...It appears there is much more thoughtful discussion here than there is on the Prison Planet Forum...I maybe totally off base, but it seems to me that Alex Jones is just pushing the right/left paradigm....the very thing that he was preaching against years ago...I look forward to reading more of your posts...



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Some things are up for debate, but as you point out - Jones has done a complete U-Turn and is now into Left verus Right
This is what he used to say : http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=1130.msg7516#msg7516

When I mentioned that on the PPF, I did not get any thanks - lol.



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #28 on: Aug 24, 2017, 12:44:10 pm »
 

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The Judge  "WHY IS NONE OF THIS DISCUSSED ON PRISON PLANET?"

A very good question indeed !

The other posters here can give you several explanations.
Please consider asking them all personally.

Address them by nick and ask them to post openly on this forum THEIR explanations and experiences.

All I can give you is my analysis based on my experience...
and my observing the interactions of members with other members
when I was active on PPForum.

So here goes...and this will offend those still active on PPF,
and may offend those who have escaped with integrity intact.
Still speaking from my truth here, my observations and my training  as a professional in human behaviour.

Here we are laid back.
We believe in free speech.
We avoid banning at all costs, as it goes against the First amendment,
and people  all over the world have lost the plot when it comes to political correctness, IMHO.
Healthy arguments, disagreements are acceptable.
They stretch one's mind; they encourage growth.
Questioning is a good thing, in my opinion.

At PPF, say the wrong thing and you get banned,
maybe not at first, but sooner or later you know you are no longer welcome;
so quite a few have told me.

And then some moderators have been known to erase posts that are outright racist
in order to keep members who are Trump supporters active in that forum.
Those who disagree with Trump's positions ...
well ,let's just say the good old days are no more.

I even joked that maybe I would print up  t shirts that said : "I was banned by PrisonPlanet".
They could be worn as a badge of honour !
                          ;)

Me, I was never banned; I left.
I outgrew the petty small mindedness, racial and religious prejudice.
Just made me so angry that the headaches weren't worth it.
Saw it was a lost cause; some battles are not worth fighting.
The lines were drawn.

Civil war re-enactment time.

And the unquestioning loyalty to AJ and his U TURN behaviour was just too offensive to me.

But about 2 years ago, I noticed that a few very vocal posters began promoting one religion over all others.
It wasn't even One religion; there was much criticism against Christians who were not followers of the so-called "correct " denomination.
It spread to criticizing Jews, followers of Islam and other faiths, and against people with no religious affiliation.
Then it became racial.

So what was once a political forum began to sound to me like 1935.

Some of us called attention to this behaviour as out of order for a political forum,
as we could agree that we were trying to fight against the New World Order and devi/evil worshipping cults.
I spoke up, as did several other people, but this seemed to do no good.

When people become stuck in a certain mind set, their ability to assess their own behaviour disappears.
There are various psychological theories on levels of faith development
and levels of ability to think critically that I have studied in depth.
Sometimes it just does no good to try to enlighten people who believe that their path is the one, true , only path.

So members of the forum from "unwelcomed" backgrounds began to disappear,
as did people who recognized the beginnings of Fascist behaviour.

Told you I would anger some of you folks.
I have, haven't I?

Never said this in public , have I, until being invited to do so.

So, JUDGE, to get back to your question,
people who noticed such changes spreading into racial prejudice as well,
the immigration crisis re: the middle east,
which was instigated by certain political segments of the USA and their allies,
resulted in a shift from free speech to a move towards  right wing extremism.

Paul  Joseph Watson praising Tommy Robinson, British Nazi, seriously ?!

Now we had a shrinking member base,
which tended to support right wing Trump.





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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #29 on: Aug 24, 2017, 01:03:56 pm »
 

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JUDGE:   WHEN ARE THE ORIGINAL INFOWARRIORS  GOING TO ...SORT THINGS OUT ?


We have.

We are here.

We have abandoned the sinking ship,
as plugging up the holes is a waste of time.

Damage limitation is a waste of time.

Some maintain "dual citizenship," just to watch how bad things have to get before PPF implodes totally.
There will be no more guests.
No more true discussion,
only a bunch of people all in agreement with each other
except when they argue over whether or not the earth is flat.

Fascism in the USA continues to grow,
whites fight with all the non-whites,
people tricked by a Trickster who is waiting for someone to hand him his lines.

AJ will continue  to run interference for Trump and eventually will be sitting there talking to himself
as the Department of Homeland Security  loads Americans into the FEMA camps.

Then AJ will find that his tasty new wife is taken away, just like in the film ROLLERBALL.

Now that is MY PERSONAL OPINION.

Welcome aboard the good ship GlobalGulag as we fly the flag of HOPE for the FUTURE.

And thank you AJ, for teaching us when to draw our own personal lines in the sand.
You were once a great teacher; I miss the man you were.

PS  Neither Moses nor Martin Luther King , Jr. made it into the Promised land.



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #30 on: Aug 24, 2017, 05:31:29 pm »
 

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Thank you for your replies...I agree with you.  I am going to have to recluse myself from the Prison Planet Forum....I tried to get the issues talked about there and it is not working...That JoForTruth character is a really bad apple...he must be a shill for infowars...You can see our interactions if they leave them up for much longer...



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #31 on: Aug 24, 2017, 11:13:35 pm »
 

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I tried to get the issues talked about there and it is not working.

Welcome to the Gulag. We're trying our best to keep it about truth here. Over there, you'll never make it work at the rate they're going. I was banned recently, because I started raising hell when no one lifted a finger to complete lies, disinfo, and deception. There's no hope or reason at PPF any longer. I feel your pain.

But the pain comes from knowing what it was like in the past, not from what it has become.

And as far as Jones goes, I personally believe he's been compromised for a long long time, even years before he first woke me up about 10 years ago. But I'm not here to prove he's a shill. He woke me up and I've moved on.



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #32 on: Aug 25, 2017, 06:59:03 am »
 

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Thanks for everyone's responses....this is definitely a healthier environment than PPF.... 



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #33 on: Aug 25, 2017, 09:35:51 am »
 

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Thanks for everyone's responses....this is definitely a healthier environment than PPF....



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Just posted over there and will be interesting to see if there's any response or backlash. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the way they've been blind sided by Alex Jones but refuse to believe it. It's a sad day when so-called "truthers" have been compromised and don't realize they've been duped by the new false flag that is Trump and Co.



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #34 on: Aug 25, 2017, 10:44:04 am »
 

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Tsul 777

So glad to see you here.
I jumped ship years ago,
when no one responded to my Trump criticism.

You knew me as Amazon, the woman archer of Greek mythology.
Ex -moderator of forum and chat room.

Much more room for free speech here.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness encouraged.

We even tolerate dissent !
can you believe that ?

We just don't like people pushing their racial or religious agendas on each other.

otherwise, welcome aboard !
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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #35 on: Aug 25, 2017, 10:54:51 am »
 

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It is posts like this that make people feel comfortable sharing thoughts, opinions, ideas, and asking questions, etc....Thank you....I am glad to part of this community...



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #36 on: Aug 25, 2017, 11:05:02 am »
 

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Just posted over there and will be interesting to see if there's any response or backlash. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the way they've been blind sided by Alex Jones but refuse to believe it. It's a sad day when so-called "truthers" have been compromised and don't realize they've been duped by the new false flag that is Trump and Co.



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At its most basic level, Jones has done a U-Turn and Trump is yet another New World Order minion.
Its PPF that has changed, lead astray by the Pied Piper.

Yesterday I got flack for posting old Alex Jones videos reminding them that the entire Left versus Right is a false paradigm.


Anyway, you summarized it all into one sentence earlier :

It seems if you in any way criticize Trump's decisions or question the veracity of Alex Jones, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist! How's that for double-talk!  :-X



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #37 on: Aug 25, 2017, 12:36:44 pm »
 

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It is posts like this that make people feel comfortable sharing thoughts, opinions, ideas, and asking questions, etc....Thank you....I am glad to part of this community...



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The best is being able to post videos, like on the The Music thread.

To do video, you just copy paste the link, then Palmerston will edit in the embedded video when he reads your post.
Any problems just ask.

Like :
https://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=k85mRPqvMbE



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #38 on: Aug 25, 2017, 02:36:06 pm »
 

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Turh is its an admission that Infowars stories don't pass basic fact checking and are poor journalism.

Report: General Kelly Blocks Trump From Reading Infowars Stories
Chief of staff imposes lockdown on flow of information
Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars.com - August 25, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/report-general-kelly-blocks-trump-from-reading-infowars-stories/



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Re: Click Bait Headlines by Infowars
« Reply #39 on: Aug 25, 2017, 03:00:38 pm »
 

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I think music is wonderful.

It bypasses our defences,
those habitual responses that protect us from feeling our emotions.

Things like denial : "Trump's not so bad; Trump really is just misunderstood."

or intellectualization: "The experts state that this is a game of 4D chess, which of course
                                        one must truly be able to understand what 4 dimensions are
                                        in order to visualize the complex planning that goes into each sophisticated move."

or repression:     " Duh...I don't remember ....(whatever)"

or "identifying with the aggressor":   "Tommy Robinson is not a Nazi...he's been misunderstood.
                                                                  Why, I feel the same way about those idiots who cannot see that whites are being
                                                                  exterminated. We have to get them before they get us...it's just rational self-defense".

I just illustrated a few.
There are many more.
Look them up ,"psychological defences".

BUT MY POINT IS THAT MUSIC CUTS THROUGH THE MENTAL TRICKS  AND GOES STRAIGHT TO THE HEART

No one chooses their defences ;  we develop them from our life experiences.

I remember EG & I going to a pub on the night of 9/11 just to be with other people.

Everyone was silent.
I took a deep breath and sang AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL and sobbed.
I was NOT performing.
I needed consolation.
I felt grief and confusion and love for our land.

People applauded.
Don't applaud me; I am not performing.
SING WITH ME !
Grieve with me.

So we post songs that have meaning for us.
Often we don't know why; it's not meant to be analyzed.
Music speaks to our souls or spirits or whatever that special speck of " beyond humanness" that exists inside us all.

Post your music, people.

Funny, raunchy, moving, gross, lovely, sexy, sad, disgusting...whatever...
It unites us all in our humanness.

Music is its own Higher Power.

So says Phoenix Rising.

Music makes my spirit rise.



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« Reply #40 on: Aug 28, 2017, 08:23:49 am »
 

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The Nazis Were Actually Leftists
Hitler’s party grew out of leftist ideas
Lew Rockwell | LewRockwell.com - August 26, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/the-nazis-were-actually-leftists/



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Drunk driver turns into . . . . or put it this way, despite "all" the media out to get Trump, nobody reported the incident let alone called it an assassination.

BREAKING! ATTEMPTED TRUMP ASSASSINATION CAUGHT ON VIDEO?
Vehicle unexpectedly drives towards Trump motorcade from the woods
Infowars.com - AUGUST 30, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/breaking-attempted-trump-assassination-caught-on-video/





Nothing happens for 1 minute and 10 seconds












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« Reply #42 on: Sep 01, 2017, 02:41:26 pm »
 

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Not sure what to make of the video EG.  I know the the presidential car is called "The Beast"  (let that sink into your mind), the reverence in which the man who was filming says those words stood out to me.   



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« Reply #43 on: Sep 01, 2017, 04:44:12 pm »
 

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Not sure what to make of the video EG.  I know the the presidential car is called "The Beast"  (let that sink into your mind), the reverence in which the man who was filming says those words stood out to me.



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I must admit that hearing the word Beast always triggers me a little.

As for the so-called assassination attempt, it looked like click bait journalism at its worst. That white car bumped the ditch and then parked, it did not attempt to kamakazi anything. Looked more like a drunk driver anything else.



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« Reply #44 on: Sep 01, 2017, 05:22:27 pm »
 

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Laid Off From The Blaze? Come Work For Infowars!

https://infowars.com/laid-off-from-the-blaze-come-work-for-infowars/


Laid off by one ego manic come work for another one.     



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« Reply #45 on: Sep 11, 2017, 10:31:10 am »
 

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I checked the main page of infowars.com/newswars.com and there is no mention of 9/11.  2 articles on prisonplanet, but nothing dealing with debunking the official theory or reminding people that the WOT was started on false pretenses.



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« Reply #46 on: Sep 11, 2017, 02:13:15 pm »
 

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The Nazis Were Actually Leftists
Hitler’s party grew out of leftist ideas
Lew Rockwell | LewRockwell.com - August 26, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/the-nazis-were-actually-leftists/



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I do not think so. Name of the that Party tells the ideology: Nationalism + Socialism. Strong Occult symbol on red flags. Compromise.  ;)



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« Reply #47 on: Sep 11, 2017, 04:07:05 pm »
 

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I do not think so. Name of the that Party tells the ideology: Nationalism + Socialism. Strong Occult symbol on red flags. Compromise.  ;)



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Thule Society.

Not exactly "the workers".
8)

Hitler made cynical attempts top appeal to everybody, all classes, rich and poor.



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« Reply #48 on: Sep 11, 2017, 07:45:18 pm »
 

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Roger Stone and Jones are pushing a story about Trump 'slurring his words' and Jones is spinning that this is because Trump is being drugged.

But why are Stone and Jones pushing this? The media is not reporting it so there's no damage to control at present, but Jones is leading with this and including stuff about blackmail and 'other women'..it would seem that they're trying to get out some spin ahead of a story that Stone knows will break soon.

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« Reply #49 on: Sep 12, 2017, 01:20:51 am »
 

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Something is cooking, I found this on my twitter feed as somebody else had re-tweeted it . . . in time for yesterdays show.

Roger Stone to drop bombshell Trump news that will shake the country at 1pm CST on the Alex Jones Show.
-Paul Joseph Watson


That they are pre-programming the audience is a distinct possibility. Which reminds me, oughta make a noise about the "11,ooo Stolen Syrian Passports" story which is a rather obvious pre-programming.



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