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Quote from: Al Bundy on Feb 18, 2020, 03:40:48 PM2/14 1941. Berghof (residence ), GermanyOne year after Gen. Jodl lamented "how Hitler treats Yugoslavia as a midday" meeting in Bavaria.Negotiations between the Prime Ministers and Heads of Diplomacy of Germany and Yugoslavia: Hitler, von Ribentrop and Cvetkovic and Dr. Cincar-Markovic (ex-ambassador in Germany).The Fuhrer reiterated the demands to the Yugoslav delegation: the Kingdom Yugoslavia must join the Axis Powers or else ...Yugoslav PM Dragisa Cvetkovic subjected Hitler to gentle neutrality ( Axis Pact means political an military Pact against Allies from Great War) , pointing to Yugoslav economic services to Germany and that Yugoslavia would not serve England. In order to avoid access to the Pact of the Axis and gain in time, Cvetkovic offered to create a neutral Balkan bloc (which would even help reconcile Italy and Greece). Hitler denied this without debate, and given that the Axis would win the war, he demanded that Yugoslavia join the Axis Pact.But Hitler surprising promise thatGermany will not ask from Yugoslavia any military help if Belgrade sign Pact with Axis Powers.Cvetkovic replied that there was no such authority for Regent Pavle Karadjordjevic, so Hitler requested that Regent personally come to him.Source: M. Jankovic and journalist V. Lalic "Istina o 27.martu" ( The True about 3/27 1941." ) ; Belgrade, 2007.It is interesting that the Ambassador of Yugoslavia to Germany, former Freemason and Serbian writer Ivo Andric, was neither informed nor attended the negotiations (?!)."I appreciate the heroism of the Serbian army in the past war, which so famously defended the freedom and independence of its people ... We want a strong Yugoslavia, so we have special regard for you" (Hitler).P.S. in the Great War, Hitler would have been very familiar with the "heroism of the Serbian army", but was returned home by the Austro-Hungarian army because of his illness. Hitler was furious.Last Edit by PalmerstonReport to moderator 18.104.22.168 (?)
Quote from: Al Bundy on Feb 19, 2020, 07:12:34 AM2/18 1941 Moscow -> Belgrade (secret dispatch)The first ! ambassador of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia to the USSR, Milan Gavrilovic, informed from the German Embassy in Moscow how the Nazis saw to meet Hitler and the Yugoslav delegation."On the occasion of the meeting between PМ Cvetkovic and FМ Dr. Cincar-Markovic with the Fuhrer, I was surprised to see the German Embassy. The Germans spoke to me openly:"Yugoslavia accepts Fuhrer's demands or refuses, her fate is sealed. If Yugoslavia accepts, she can still save Serbia by gaining Slovakia status; and if he refuses, Yugoslavia will be completely destroyed. Bosnia would belong to Croatia, thus becoming part of the Italian Empirethe status of a protectorate. Germany annexes Slovenia. The rest is shared with Hungarians, Bulgarians and again Italians. "Source: M. Janković and V. Lalic "The Truth About March 27", Belgrade, 2007.Last Edit by Larry
Quote from: EvadingGrid on Apr 16, 2020, 01:07:55 AMCertainly, and beyond reasonable doubt the British most certainly desired a Coupé.But, did they have the actual ability ?Its my opinion that they had involvement, but perhaps they are given to much credit.Perhaps the real credit is with the Serbs.Or to put another way, 1776 is not described as a French Coupé, despite the French pretty much well won that war.Last Edit by Larry