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Trump on Syria ?
« on: Apr 05, 2017, 03:08:52 pm »
 

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LIVE - False Flag In Syria ! - Infowars
« Reply #1 on: Apr 05, 2017, 03:29:55 pm »
 

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LIVE! False Flag In Syria!
Establishment calls for war as Syrian crisis intensifies
Infowars.com - April 5, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/live-false-flag-in-syria/
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Re: Trump on Syria ? - "has 'responsibility' to act"
« Reply #2 on: Apr 05, 2017, 04:42:44 pm »
 

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Donald Trump says he has changed his position on Bashar al-Assad and Syria after chemical weapons attack and has 'responsibility' to act
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/05/donald-trump-says-has-changed-position-bashar-al-assad-syria/
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #3 on: Apr 06, 2017, 04:00:02 am »
 

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #4 on: Apr 06, 2017, 04:47:11 am »
 

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Anybody got any ideas what action Trump will take ?

My best guess is that it will be something like a Cruise Missile strike or another type of Stand Off Weapon on Syrian Air Defences.

(a) Does not risk any dead bodies of any American troops. While not many people instantly think of the tragic attempt to use special forces to rescue the hostages in Iran under President Peanut, the Pentagon and White House have longer memories. Use of Stand Off Weapons

(b) ISIS does not have an Air-force, so it can be spun that Trump is not giving Air Support to ISIS. This is more than a little distorted, as one of the reasons Assad is defeating ISIS is because he has an Air Force. Remember Libya ? Besides which the entire Allied doctrine from 1944 onwards is based on Air Superiority. Anyway, they could sell it to the public via the press.

(c) Putin is to responsible to over react, some thing Trump will have to rely upon. Because the possibility of dead Russian Soldiers around an S-300 battery is a distinct possibility.

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Re: Trump on Syria ? [ Why is nobody commenting ? ]
« Reply #5 on: Apr 06, 2017, 06:11:15 am »
 

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #6 on: Apr 06, 2017, 06:20:33 am »
 

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... I think cooler heads will prevail. There reports are credible that
it may have been another set-up or false flag ... other reports
that they have found chemical weapons shells at the site which
were stored/placed there and were exploded by conventional
shelling ... other reports that there may have been an ISIS
truck exploded that had the gas aboard. If ISIS or any of the other
groups could have rigged this, they certainly would have ... and
of course the anti-Trump, anti-Russian, anti-Assad left media are gonna
play it for all it's worth. But we may see Trump led to a big
gaping trap ... and fall in.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #7 on: Apr 06, 2017, 06:42:24 am »
 

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False Flag ?
hmm... depends on how we re-define or stretch the meaning.

I do think is that a plane dropped a bomb on one of the munitions dumps - from the very first instant I saw it on the news.
I bet a few of us thought that, the minute it flashed on the news wires.


I think the headline writers at Infowars - acting under pressure - came up with a slogan, a sound bite, that pushed the message it is a HOAX Attack
What Infowars did, in haste, is also an almighty mistake - but I'll leave it up to other people to work out why....

I got to go back to chores, but I will be back for the next smoke break and coffee.
Thank you for replying - I was really, really, beginning to wonder if either nobody cared or people was just in a state of U-Turn paralysis










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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #8 on: Apr 06, 2017, 07:11:01 am »
 

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^^^

... as far as the term 'false flag' I was thinking
about the last big international stink about
chemical war in the area ... and after reading this:


‘FALSE FLAG’ — Ron Paul Says Syrian Chemical
Attack ‘Makes No Sense’ [VIDEO]


√ Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/05/it-makes-no-sense-ron-paul-thinks-syrian-chemical-attack-was-a-false-flag-video/#ixzz4dTErdzHk
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #9 on: Apr 06, 2017, 07:39:48 am »
 

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I'm just hinting that it was a foolish choice of words.

False Flag

The person who wishes to "go to war"
Makes an attack under "false colours"
Public reaction demands "justice", like a B-52 strike or what ever.

If its a False Flag, then the person who wants to do the reaction bit -> Trump
Is the same person who engineered the attack in the first place....

Ok, I'm in a hurry, but now do you see why its not a good idea to go down that path.

Yes its a HOAX
NO its not a False Flag.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #10 on: Apr 06, 2017, 08:28:59 am »
 

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... I don't think it was intentional by
the Russian/Syrian/Iranian forces ...
either a weapons 'dump' at the site
(though Obama said there were
no more gases in Syria), a placement
of a load of gas in a truck or other
means in a 'false flag' move by the
rebel forces.
We'll see  ...  but
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #11 on: Apr 06, 2017, 08:42:41 am »
 

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We saw in the past two things, in Syria :

(a) The crude front line munitions factories, yards from the front line.
(b) The Rebels are making chemical weapons.

Neither of these are common knowledge to the voting public, thanks to "the media".


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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #12 on: Apr 06, 2017, 08:52:06 am »
 

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When I ran my standard "Cui Bono"

The answer I got was nobody stands to benefit.

Russians - don't be daft
Assad - don't be daft
Trump - don't be daft
Iran - don't be daft
Lebanon - don't be daft
Etc...

Now Trump is in a bad position :

He can prove he is a Russian Agent, (gawd I hate and detest that Meme).
He can prove he was a lying hypocrite when he mocked Obama's Red Lines.

IMHO
Trump's best bet is to sound tough now, let things cool down, then sound intelligent and fair by asking reasonable questions later.

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #13 on: Apr 06, 2017, 11:20:42 am »
 

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Well AJ is giving a decent commentary and this is a better headline  8)

Congressman: 'I don't think' Assad is behind Syria attack
By Eleanor Mueller, CNN


Washington (CNN)Republican Rep. Thomas Massie expressed doubt Wednesday that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is responsible for Tuesday's chemical attack, and reinforced his stance that US intervention could "end up making the situation worse."
Speaking on CNN's "At This Hour" with Kate Bolduan, the Kentucky lawmaker told the host that he didn't think the Syrian leader launched the attack, and that further intervention by the US government may aggravate the situation.

"Frankly, I don't think Assad would have done that," Massie said. "It does not serve his interests."
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This is the sort of thing I do NOT want to see !
This disgusting drivel has the largest circulation figs. owned by R.MURDOCK

The Sun
SWAMPING SOCIAL MEDIA
Sick trolls claim Syria gas massacre was a ‘deep state’ false flag operation designed to trick Donald Trump into war with Assad


The suspected chemical attack in northern Syria killed more than 70 people including children and babies
By Mark Hodge
6th April 2017, 2:13 pm
Updated: 6th April 2017, 3:27 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3271382/syria-gas-attack-donald-trump-assad-false-flag-operation-trolls/


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More deep fried faeces, this time the Huffington Gross


Syria Gas Attack 'False Flag' Accusations And Why They're Totally Wrong
Genuine fake news.
06/04/2017 15:12 | Updated 1 hour ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/syria-gas-attack-false-flag_uk_58e5e0f6e4b06a4cb30f2fe1
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #16 on: Apr 06, 2017, 11:35:54 am »
 

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The highlights . . .

conspiracy nuts claim the atrocity was orchestrated by the ‘deep state’.
 - The Sun

British far-right conspiracy theorist Paul Joseph Watson is one of the ‘truthers’ peddling the vile claims online.
- The Sun

Speaking on his YouTube show ‘The Liberty Report’, far-right politician Paul said he believed the atrocity in Syria was carried out to force regime change in the country.
- The Sun

The closing Conclusion :

Richard Spencer, the so-called leader of the Alt-Right movement on the fringes of US politics, has also retweeted posts which claim anti-Assad reporters knew about the attack beforehand.
He also tweeted out his own video blog which poses the question: "Will Trump Gas His Presidency Over Syria?"
Spencer, who has been branded a white supremacist by his critics, also retweeted a post which supported the theory that Assad was not behind the atrocity.
The post read: "Assad whatever else he might be is smart enough to be a MD,why would he do the ONE thing guaranteed to get him in trouble with the Empire?"

- The Sun


Its only one of the biggest english language papers on the planet. Incidentally, the problem is people pass it around at work, one copy sold is reckoned to be read by 6 people.



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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #17 on: Apr 06, 2017, 12:04:34 pm »
 

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On a more positive note :
Assuming that this all blows over then a heck of a lot of people will have learnt what a False Flag is . . . and heard of Watson, Jones, etc . .


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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #18 on: Apr 06, 2017, 12:55:56 pm »
 

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The question is : Has Trump been (completely?) captured by the NeoCon 's and their false flag syria nwo scenario ?

Between North Korea missiles  and Syria chem attacks .... a rock and a hard place ... 

as a note Assad has no need nor would it be in his  interest  to use a sarin gas attack ... while it is obviously in the realm of the no conscious  killers of ISIS and those creating the false flag need of NWO- USA military intervention ..

timing is also in the focus ... Susan Rice in charge of spying on Trump ... Weiner/Podesta pedophilia ... hmmmmmmm ..

timing again is the nsc  decapitation of Bannon ...  removal is the another straw ...
 
 

Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #19 on: Apr 06, 2017, 01:17:43 pm »
 

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The question is : Has Trump been (completely?) captured by the NeoCon 's and their false flag syria nwo scenario ?

That is a very good and concise description of what we "see" from the reporting we are getting.


Between North Korea missiles  and Syria chem attacks .... a rock and a hard place ... 

Does look like some hawks are trying to squeeze him as hard as possible, but I'd be surprised if he does not reflect, rethink, and make another change of  direction, given time to manoeuvre.


as a note Assad has no need nor would it be in his  interest  to use a sarin gas attack ... while it is obviously in the realm of the no conscious  killers of ISIS and those creating the false flag need of NWO- USA military intervention ..

Absolutely, the one criminal we can rule out as suspect.


timing is also in the focus ... Susan Rice in charge of spying on Trump ... Weiner/Podesta pedophilia ... hmmmmmmm ..

timing again is the nsc  decapitation of Bannon ...  removal is the another straw ...

I'm still thinking that one over, but you are right to question The Timing Factor.
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #20 on: Apr 06, 2017, 01:27:17 pm »
 

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 I voted for Mr. Trump and I believe his heart is for America ..and this is true...

..But now he has let the Demons from DC run his program....Bad move on the man who coined 'The Art of The Deal!'

...DC is the heart of Hell and President Trump better understand this and fast!!!

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Rex Tillerson . . . .

'Something should happen' says Trump after Syria gas-attack atrocity as his secretary of state reveals plans for international coalition to topple Assad
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4387498/Trump-considersmilitary-strikes-Syria-gas-horror.html
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Re: Trump on Syria ?
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The President of China is arriving in Washington to meet Trump

Live
Donald Trump faces first major foreign policy tests over Syria crisis and visit of Chinese president

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/06/donald-trump-faces-first-major-foreign-policy-tests-syria-crisis/
Xi Jinping arrives in Florida for key summit
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« Reply #23 on: Apr 06, 2017, 03:39:12 pm »
 

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The President of China is arriving in Washington to meet Trump

Wonder if this is the story behind the story, going into the negotiation with china regarding the s. china sea and trump demonstrating to the chinese american power exersised by a strong man president ?

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Re: Trump on Syria ?
« Reply #24 on: Apr 06, 2017, 09:01:03 pm »
 

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... this is bad.

Trump Orders Strikes Against Syrian Regime
Airbase in Response to Chemical Attack

KRISTINA WONG - 6 Apr 2017

WASHINGTON –President Trump has ordered cruise missile strikes against a Syrian regime military airbase, a defense official said late Thursday.

A U.S. official said “more than 50” Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched at the airbase, located in Western Syria. That base was where the U.S. believes the Assad regime carried out a chemical weapons attack on Syrian civilians this week. The strikes were carried out from two U.S. destroyers in the Mediterranean Sea.

Trump is expected to give a statement later Thursday.
CNN reported that the attack was carried out between 8 and 9 p.m. ET.


Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) praised the strikes during an interview with CNN.

“I think it was an important step,” he said. “This was not some symbolic measure.”

According to Fox New, President Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that the strikes were in the “vital national security interest of the United States.”

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/06/trump-orders-strikes-syrian-regime-airbase-response-chemical-attack/
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