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Title: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 02:02:51 am
>:(

Something going on



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - ALERT
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 02:04:09 am
Something going on...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - MAJOR INCIDENT
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 02:28:10 am
I might have to stay up all night on this one and hand the torch over.

ALERT

This is a MAJOR incident.

They're reporting 2+ dead and 24 injured. They're showing blood splattered everywhere for a whole block and interviewing people in the streets.  :o



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:02:20 am
I just woke uip



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 03:06:48 am
Well, put on BBC LMAO this side of the pond doesn't know about it yet...  ;D



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:09:26 am
Well, put on BBC LMAO this side of the pond doesn't know about it yet...  ;D



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I just turned on RT like I do in the morning.

/me  fixes everyone coffee



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 03:12:13 am
*mornin' thanks*

Turn on Coast to Coast AM if any one can get it...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:21:47 am
Seems like one shooter has been caught, but how many shooters was involved ?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Video - From some ones phone
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:30:41 am
From some ones phone













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Video
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:33:28 am
Mandalay Bay Las Vegas Shooting October 1, 2017













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Title: Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Shooting - Video Compilation
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:34:43 am
Compilation of #MandalayBayShooting













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - update
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 03:38:54 am
F**K! 20+ DEAD 100+ WOUNDED



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:39:25 am
100 wounded 20 dead - Sheriff in press conference, giving guesstimate.
Looking for 2 x Licence Plates....



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - update
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:41:26 am
F**K! 20+ DEAD 100+ WOUNDED



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"Local man, not a terrorist." at least that is what coming on RT.

RT are saying the earlier reports of multiple shooters is incorrect - Who knows ?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Las Vegas sheriff holds a news conference
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 03:58:36 am
Las Vegas sheriff holds a news conference

STARTS after 9 minutes 30 seconds













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Sure sounds like multiple shooters too me...
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 04:00:41 am
Sure sounds like multiple shooters too me...

I know high buildings, echoes, its dark... but still have a listen













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Police Scanner
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 04:04:27 am
The Las Vegas Casino Shooting As It Happened (Police Scanner)













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Lone Gunman - But police actions says otherwise.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 04:22:02 am
>:(

Something going on



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It had to be the 32nd floor, and it just had to be described as a Lone Gunman.

From the footage, and the fact the police are looking for 2 vehicles and shut down Las Vegas Airport  All flights . . . how sure are they it was a Lone Gunmen ?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 04:49:12 am
32nd floor...

Good point. One more step...

Hold on to your seats, ladies and gentlemen.

Good call on the police scanner video. Trunk it up!



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 05:02:11 am
32nd floor...

Good point. One more step...

Hold on to your seats, ladies and gentlemen.

Good call on the police scanner video. Trunk it up!



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The other thing, and this is rather speculative, but I was expecting to see Spain's Brutality in Catalonia as the one and only story today. Its a story that is doing incredible damage to the EU, as the EU is being seen as conspiring with the Spanish Govt. I know that is extremely conspiratorial, but it would be remiss of me to think that and not mention it all. I have no evidence what so ever to back that up, but feel I ought to mention it.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 05:11:36 am
The other thing, and this is rather speculative, but I was expecting to see Spain's Brutality in Catalonia as the one and only story today. Its a story that is doing incredible damage to the EU, as the EU is being seen as conspiring with the Spanish Govt. I know that is extremely conspiratorial, but it would be remiss of me to think that and not mention it all. I have no evidence what so ever to back that up, but feel I ought to mention it.

You're right and myself and others here in the States saw the federal police beat up grandmas; we're pissed too. I've been wondering about the results of the "vote," but never saw any results overnight. Only saw Americans being cut down like dogs by cowardly gunfire.  >:(



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 05:16:29 am
The other thing, and this is rather speculative, but I was expecting to see Spain's Brutality in Catalonia as the one and only story today. Its a story that is doing incredible damage to the EU, as the EU is being seen as conspiring with the Spanish Govt. I know that is extremely conspiratorial, but it would be remiss of me to think that and not mention it all. I have no evidence what so ever to back that up, but feel I ought to mention it.



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The other thing to watch out for is how the rogue Alt-Fake-News reports the incident.

Over at infowarts, nothing on the front page yet - they are obviously still deciding on how to spin the incident as its not a Muslim Migrant. Police describe the suspect as a White Man, in his 60s, and a Local. Will infowarts declare it a False Flag because its not a muslim ?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 05:22:13 am
The other thing to watch out for is how the rogue Alt-Fake-News reports the incident.

Over at infowarts, nothing on the front page yet - they are obviously still deciding on how to spin the incident as its not a Muslim Migrant. Police describe the suspect as a White Man, in his 60s, and a Local. Will infowarts declare it a False Flag because its not a muslim ?

Exactly. They're waiting to see where the internet trend goes. I'm waiting for the descriptions. This is going to blow up as people wake up.

5:22 here



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 05:32:46 am
ADDITIONAL VIDEO - Active Shooter Las Vegas Concert - Updates as they come













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 05:46:30 am
Daily Mail
Chilling moment terrified country music star Jason Aldean flees the stage and runs for his life as fans are cut down by automatic gunfire in Vegas concert
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940088/Jason-Aldean-stops-concert-Las-Vegas-fans-shot.html




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 05:47:20 am
Almost sounds like an automatic weapon or using a rapid fire trigger from the videos.

https://cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-live/index.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 05:54:34 am
For informational purposes.

U.S. Citizens can own machine guns depends on your state and you must go through an ATF background check and pay $200 tax stamp.  You must get approval from the ATF to take your machine gun out of state.  There also might be state laws about machine guns also.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 06:00:25 am
For informational purposes.

U.S. Citizens can own machine guns depends on your state and you must go through an ATF background check and pay $200 tax stamp.  You must get approval from the ATF to take your machine gun out of state.  There also might be state laws about machine guns also.



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It sounded like more than one shooter, one of the talking heads explained it as one lone gunmen holding 2 machine guns - something I think is rather impractical.

Also police where looking for x 2 licence plates,

What do you think ?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - update
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 06:02:08 am
50+ DEAD 200+ WOUNDED



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - update
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 06:07:11 am
50+ DEAD 200+ WOUNDED



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BBC News says suspect named as "Stephen Paddock, White Male, 64 years old."

Infowarts panicking as rumour spreads shooter was wearing #MAGA Hat.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - SECOND Suspect WANTED BY POLICE
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 06:19:10 am
The gunman, 64-year-old local Stephen Paddock, was shot dead

SECOND Suspect WANTED BY POLICE
Marilou Danley

(http://koblist.com/images/1710/marilou-danley-103953.jpg)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Video
Post by: Dude447 on Oct 02, 2017, 06:25:17 am
Mandalay Bay Las Vegas Shooting October 1, 2017













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On this video I am sure I can hear 2 different automatic weapons being used (maybe I am wrong )



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Video - "nd Shooter ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 06:28:25 am

On this video I am sure I can hear 2 different automatic weapons being used (maybe I am wrong )

I agree and news is now reporting a second suspect

Marilou Danley: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/marilou-danley-photos-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-girlfriend-person-of-interest-shooter-route-91/

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/danley3-e1506938611799.jpg)

Marilou Danley, a former “high-limit hostess” at a casino, was identified by the Las Vegas Sheriff as a “person of interest” in the mass shooting that took the lives of at least 50 people at a country music concert at the Mandalay Bay resort and casino on the Las Vegas strip.

The mother and grandmother, whose now deleted Facebook page was full of photos with family members and trips overseas, was described by police as a 4’11” Asian woman. She was described as a “companion” of the still unidentified shooter. Police stopped short of calling Danley a suspect in the early morning hours of October 2, but they said they wanted to talk to her about the carnage. The sheriff also revealed that, in addition to the 50 deaths, at least 200 people were injured late on October 1 when the shooter opened fire on the crowd at a Route 91 Harvest country music festival near the Mandalay Bay

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/danley9.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all)

Police advised anyone who saw Danley or her vehicle to call 911.

Marilou Danley is being sought for questioning re the investigation into the active shooter incident. If seen please call 9-1-1! pic.twitter.com/Z83XvcHejH

— LVMPD (@LVMPD) October 2, 2017

They later reported they believed they had her in custody.

We have located the vehicles in question, and we are confident we have located the female person of interest.

— LVMPD (@LVMPD) October 2, 2017

The gunman was down at the scene in the Mandalay Bay hotel, police said. Stephen Paddock was identified as the gunman in the shooting, according to NBC News. Paddock is a 64-year-old from Mesquite, Nevada. His motive is not yet clear, but police have said they don’t think the shooting was an act of terrorism, at least not at this point. The shooter unleashed a spray of bulleys at the Route 91 concert crowd from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel at the festival. Officers responded to that hotel room and engaged the suspect, killing him. They know who he is but haven’t publicly released his name. Be aware that some of the videos and photos later in this story from the scene are disturbing and graphic.

Here’s what you need to know:



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Video - 2nd Shooter ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 06:28:41 am

On this video I am sure I can hear 2 different automatic weapons being used (maybe I am wrong )

I agree and news is now reporting a second suspect

Marilou Danley: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/marilou-danley-photos-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-girlfriend-person-of-interest-shooter-route-91/

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/danley3-e1506938611799.jpg)

Marilou Danley, a former “high-limit hostess” at a casino, was identified by the Las Vegas Sheriff as a “person of interest” in the mass shooting that took the lives of at least 50 people at a country music concert at the Mandalay Bay resort and casino on the Las Vegas strip.

The mother and grandmother, whose now deleted Facebook page was full of photos with family members and trips overseas, was described by police as a 4’11” Asian woman. She was described as a “companion” of the still unidentified shooter. Police stopped short of calling Danley a suspect in the early morning hours of October 2, but they said they wanted to talk to her about the carnage. The sheriff also revealed that, in addition to the 50 deaths, at least 200 people were injured late on October 1 when the shooter opened fire on the crowd at a Route 91 Harvest country music festival near the Mandalay Bay

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/danley9.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all)

Police advised anyone who saw Danley or her vehicle to call 911.

Marilou Danley is being sought for questioning re the investigation into the active shooter incident. If seen please call 9-1-1! pic.twitter.com/Z83XvcHejH

— LVMPD (@LVMPD) October 2, 2017

They later reported they believed they had her in custody.

We have located the vehicles in question, and we are confident we have located the female person of interest.

— LVMPD (@LVMPD) October 2, 2017

The gunman was down at the scene in the Mandalay Bay hotel, police said. Stephen Paddock was identified as the gunman in the shooting, according to NBC News. Paddock is a 64-year-old from Mesquite, Nevada. His motive is not yet clear, but police have said they don’t think the shooting was an act of terrorism, at least not at this point. The shooter unleashed a spray of bulleys at the Route 91 concert crowd from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel at the festival. Officers responded to that hotel room and engaged the suspect, killing him. They know who he is but haven’t publicly released his name. Be aware that some of the videos and photos later in this story from the scene are disturbing and graphic.

Here’s what you need to know:



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 06:30:36 am
It sounded like more than one shooter, one of the talking heads explained it as one lone gunmen holding 2 machine guns - something I think is rather impractical.

Also police where looking for x 2 licence plates,

What do you think ?



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Holding and firing two machine guns is impractical.  The muzzle rise from a machine gun is not easy to control regardless if pistol caliber or rifle caliber.  You need two hands on the gun and even then your shots are spraying.

To my ears it sounded like machine gun fire but I am going off cell phone video.

I will not rule out the possibility of multiple shooters, but I have not read all the facts and seen a lot of video.

This shooting comes at a time when the Share Act is coming up for a vote in the House.  The Share Act would take silencers off National Firearms Act and allow them to be sold as a regular firearm.  There other provision in the Share Act.
https://congress.gov/115/bills/hr3668/BILLS-115hr3668rh.pdf

In addition, another legal case,  Kolbe v Hogan,  filed a Petition for a writ of certiorari to the Supreme Court.  The Firearms Safety Act in Maryland banned common AR-15s and other modern rifles. It banned the sale or transfer of standard capacity magazines in the state.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - PRIOR KNOWLEDGE ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 06:32:02 am
PRIOR KNOWLEDGE

Woman celebrating 21st birthday was in front row. Says another woman came during show & told everyone they were going to die. pic.twitter.com/kwe00GMmqR

— Ryan McKinnell (@RyanMcKinnell) October 2, 2017

https://everipedia-storage.s3.amazonaws.com/NewlinkFiles/17038082/8a397___marilou-danley-nevada/thenbsptwitter-video-of-a-woman-in-the-front-row-w.m4v

[Download]: thenbsptwitter-video-of-a-woman-in-the-front-row-w.m4v -
https://everipedia-storage.s3.amazonaws.com/NewlinkFiles/17038082/8a397___marilou-danley-nevada/thenbsptwitter-video-of-a-woman-in-the-front-row-w.m4v

The Twitter​ video of a woman in the front row who says she saw a woman, suspected to be Marilou, who said that people at the concert were going to die. <-- PRIOR KNOWLEDGE



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - update
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 02, 2017, 06:35:07 am
BBC News says suspect named as "Stephen Paddock, White Male, 64 years old."

Infowarts panicking as rumour spreads shooter was wearing #MAGA Hat.

Left field...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 06:39:39 am
Holding and firing two machine guns is impractical.  The muzzle rise from a machine gun is not easy to control regardless if pistol caliber or rifle caliber.  You need two hands on the gun and even then your shots are spraying.

To my ears it sounded like machine gun fire but I am going off cell phone video.

I will not rule out the possibility of multiple shooters, but I have not read all the facts and seen a lot of video.

This shooting comes at a time when the Share Act is coming up for a vote in the House.  The Share Act would take silencers off National Firearms Act and allow them to be sold as a regular firearm.  There other provision in the Share Act.
https://congress.gov/115/bills/hr3668/BILLS-115hr3668rh.pdf

In addition, another legal case,  Kolbe v Hogan,  filed a Petition for a writ of certiorari to the Supreme Court.  The Firearms Safety Act in Maryland banned common AR-15s and other modern rifles. It banned the sale or transfer of standard capacity magazines in the state.



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Coincidence Theorist Required . . . . . .



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 06:45:55 am
Paul Joseph Watson comments, now a non-white foreigner is implicated.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/914810875642630144




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Title: Re: Las Vegas - 1st Pic of Paddock
Post by: Larry on Oct 02, 2017, 07:00:52 am
Daily Mirror
(http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11274169.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/Stephen-C-Paddock.jpg)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 07:20:33 am
Coincidence Theorist Required . . . . . .



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Here is another coincidence for you.  The day that Congressman Scalise was shot was the day that the Share Act was to have a committee hearing back on June 14.

https://usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/06/14/reports-congressman-others-shot-baseball-practice/102838314/
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https://naturalresources.house.gov/calendar/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=402112



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 07:29:07 am
https://twitter.com/NormLasVegas/status/914825304740208640

@KTNV Beth Fisher, citing police source, said shooter had 8 guns & 2 platforms set up to shoot from + cameras set up to see police arriving
5:12 AM - 2 Oct 2017



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 07:30:43 am
https://twitter.com/BillHemmer/status/914816271467806720
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From Fox Producer Jake Gibson: Federal Law enforcement sources tell Fox News that Stephen Paddock "was known to local authorities" in Vegas.

4:36 AM - 2 Oct 2017



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 07:34:29 am

Another article summing up known information with video and links to other stories

https://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-route-91-mandalay-bay-shooting-shooter-gunman-suspect-photos-motive/



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 08:16:11 am
https://miamiherald.com/latest-news/article176171716.html

GOP braces for politics of gun debate

Voting to make it easier to buy noise suppressors for firearms seemed like a win for Republicans.

But when the National Rifle Association wasn’t present at a congressional hearing on the issue — which has been at the top of its legislative agenda for years — it signaled the GOP might be growing aware of the new optics surrounding the gun debate.

Indeed, what would have been an ugly partisan fight under ordinary circumstances has been made even uglier by recent events, including the Oct. 1 massacre at an outdoor music festival in Las Vegas that quickly became the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.

The saga at the center of the gun lobby’s absence on Capitol Hill, however, occurred June 14, when the NRA’s federal affairs director was scheduled to testify at a hearing on the Sportsmen’s Heritage and Recreational Enhancement, or SHARE Act, a legislative package containing various land conservation programs and provisions aimed at supporting hunters, fishers, anglers and other outdoorsmen.

The Hearing Protection Act — the suppressor bill — is part of this package.

That same day, a gunman opened fire on the Republican baseball team practice in Alexandria, Va., injuring law enforcement personnel and congressmen, including House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La. The House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Federal Lands, along with every other panel, postponed activity as Capitol Hill confronted the tragedy.

On Sept. 12, the subcommittee’s hearing was back on. This time, however, a representative from the NRA was not among the list of witnesses.

Link -- > http://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article176171716.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article176171716.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Marilou Danley not involved in shooting
Post by: Q on Oct 02, 2017, 08:43:31 am
Infowars fake news and race-baiting charlatans like Paul Watson will be very disappointed.

Marilou Danley has been located outside of the US and is not thought to be involved in the shooting.

Stephen Paddock is thought to have used her car and her ID to check in to a hotel, which led to the initial belief that she was present.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/marilou-danley-las-vegas-shooting-police-search-female-roommate-gunman-suspect-latest-a7978156.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: TheJudge on Oct 02, 2017, 09:38:39 am
I am not buying this but thought I would share...

https://twitter.com/siteintelgroup/status/914854178798874624



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 09:49:44 am
https://cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-attack-stephen-paddock-trnd/index.html

Quote
Who was Stephen Paddock, the man suspected of killing more than 50 people on the Las Vegas Strip?

Paddock, 64, was a resident of Mesquite, a town of about 18,000 people on the Nevada-Arizona state line 82 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

Authorities are searching his home Monday. They don't know how long he'd lived in the area.

He'd been staying in the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas since last Thursday, authorities said.

From his room on the 32nd floor he fired hundreds of rounds into the crowd on the street below at the Route 91 Harvest music festival on Sunday night, killing more than 50 and wounding over 400.

Officers broke into his hotel room and found Paddock dead, police said in a statement. Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it appears he killed himself. Police don't think anybody else was involved.

More than 10 rifles were found in the room, Lombardo said.

Law enforcement has no "derogatory information" about Paddock, besides the fact that he received a citation several years ago that was handled in the court system, Lombardo said.

The suspect was using some of Marilou Danley's identification but they do not believe she was involved in the shooting, Lombardo said.

Authorities she was his companion or roommate and was out of the country when the shooting happened.

Paddock had a private pilot's license and the FAA is gathering his records, according to FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Marilou Danley not involved in shooting
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 09:58:45 am
Infowars fake news and race-baiting charlatans like Paul Watson will be very disappointed.

Marilou Danley has been located outside of the US and is not thought to be involved in the shooting.

Stephen Paddock is thought to have used her car and her ID to check in to a hotel, which led to the initial belief that she was present.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/marilou-danley-las-vegas-shooting-police-search-female-roommate-gunman-suspect-latest-a7978156.html



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I am not buying this but thought I would share...

https://twitter.com/siteintelgroup/status/914854178798874624



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https://infowars.com/breaking-isis-claims-responsibility-for-las-vegas-shooting/



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 11:17:54 am
I am not buying this but thought I would share...

https://twitter.com/siteintelgroup/status/914854178798874624



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You are right to post it and you are equally right to be sceptical



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 11:30:05 am
OMG

I just tunned into infowars, and quiet honestly AJ has gone insane.
AJ is spinning that this all part of a plot by the communists to start a race war, to get rid of Trump.
Its a sicko re-write of the Turner Diaries...
Its AntiFa and AntiFa from Jones.

Sick



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 11:32:48 am
https://cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/hillary-clinton-tweet-gun-silencer-bill/index.html

Clinton talks gun legislation immediately following massacre

ormer Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, amid the fallout of the massacre in Las Vegas, turned the political spotlight on a gun bill that's currently making its way through the House.

"The crowd fled at the sound of gunshots. Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get," she tweeted Monday morning.

She wrote later, "Our grief isn't enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again."

The "Hearing Protection Act," which would make it easier to purchase silencers, is part of a larger bipartisan measure that would ease restrictions on transporting guns across state lines and narrows the restricted category of armor-piercing ammunition. Supporters point out that silencers don't make guns silent, but it decreases their decibel level and muffles the noise.

The House Committee on Natural Resources passed the bill last month. It aims to "expand opportunities for hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting" and "increases safety and hearing protection for sportsmen and women," according to a statement from the committee at the time of passage. The bill would now go to a floor vote, and would need to pass the Senate, but no such vote has been scheduled in the House.

More at link -->http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/hillary-clinton-tweet-gun-silencer-bill/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/hillary-clinton-tweet-gun-silencer-bill/index.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: TheJudge on Oct 02, 2017, 11:36:20 am
OMG

I just tunned into infowars, and quiet honestly AJ has gone insane.
AJ is spinning that this all part of a plot by the communists to start a race war, to get rid of Trump.
Its a sicko re-write of the Turner Diaries...
Its AntiFa and AntiFa from Jones.

Sick



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I am tuned in as well...it is lunacy.  He is also claiming the NFL protests are all part of this as well....Even mentioned an NFL game would be a perfect target.  He has also been able to get in some great fear mongering as well.  "They are coming for you at night"...lol...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 11:40:43 am
I am tuned in as well...it is lunacy.  He is also claiming the NFL protests are all part of this as well....Even mentioned an NFL game would be a perfect target.  He has also been able to get in some great fear mongering as well.  "They are coming for you at night"...lol...



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I'm so glad I'm not the only one who is listening, because I felt bad repeating such lunatic claims . . . .

AJ is going on about an AntiFa Civil War.....
Does it occur to anyone that it takes TWO sides, and that Alex Jones is responsible for ONE of the sides ?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 11:45:43 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLIEPOMVYAA7nvH.jpg)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 11:54:46 am
AJ is coming out with that "AntiFa crap was everywhere in the room" - claimed CIA source.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 11:59:08 am
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who is listening, because I felt bad repeating such lunatic claims . . . .

AJ is going on about an AntiFa Civil War.....
Does it occur to anyone that it takes TWO sides, and that Alex Jones is responsible for ONE of the sides ?



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I think it is good to document mainstream narrative and the counter narrative.  The "alternative" media has proven that it will play a willing part in the divide and conquer strategy employed by the shadow government.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 02, 2017, 12:01:44 pm
AJ is coming out with that "AntiFa crap was everywhere in the room" - claimed CIA source.



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I'm not listening to him, but if Jones was hilariously claiming that this was part of Antifa's civil war, and then he gets some 'CIA intel' (lol) that there was 'Antifa crap everywhere', then it sounds like someone is having a laugh at Jones's expense..



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Geolibertarian on Oct 02, 2017, 12:04:35 pm
The dust hasn't settled yet, so I don't know what to believe.

What I do know is that the moment self-appointed intellectual gatekeepers hop on their collective high-horse and start saying (in effect)...

"Believe such-and-such or else we'll call you a _____ (fill in the blank)."

...I immediately know what not to believe.

Among the many weaponized terms I'm expecting to hear from such people are:

*  "Conspiracy theorist"

*  "Racist"

*  "Xenophobe"

*  "Neo-Nazi"



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 12:19:16 pm
The thing is, I never thought Alex Jones would 'break' a story on the basis that a CIA Agent told him...


Murdered 58
Injured 515


Above all, its the ultimate gun-grabbers dream, and last time I checked both sides in Washington are determined to grab the guns.

I would point out that the high numbers suggests, but does not prove more than one shooter might have been involved.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 12:26:54 pm
https://nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471

The suspected gunman behind the Las Vegas massacre made several large gambling transactions in recent weeks, according to law enforcement officials.

The transactions in Las Vegas by Stephen Paddock were in the tens of thousands, the officials said.

It was not immediately clear if those transactions were losses or wins.

Paddock's brothers were stunned to learn Monday that their sibling was the suspected perpetrator of the largest mass shooting in modern American history.

Eric Paddock of Orlando, Florida, said he had "no idea" why his 64-year-old brother committed the shooting.

“Mars just fell into the earth,” he told NBC News. “We’re completely dumbfounded.”

Eric Paddock said his brother was retired and was "just a guy" who went to the hotels, gambled, and went to shows.

Stephen Paddock's brother Bruce Paddock, who lives in California, said his family grew up in Sun Valley, California. Their father, Benjamin Paddock, was on the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted list for robbing banks.

More at link -->  https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471 (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 12:30:17 pm
https://nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471

The suspected gunman behind the Las Vegas massacre made several large gambling transactions in recent weeks, according to law enforcement officials.

The transactions in Las Vegas by Stephen Paddock were in the tens of thousands, the officials said.

It was not immediately clear if those transactions were losses or wins.

Paddock's brothers were stunned to learn Monday that their sibling was the suspected perpetrator of the largest mass shooting in modern American history.

Eric Paddock of Orlando, Florida, said he had "no idea" why his 64-year-old brother committed the shooting.

“Mars just fell into the earth,” he told NBC News. “We’re completely dumbfounded.”

Eric Paddock said his brother was retired and was "just a guy" who went to the hotels, gambled, and went to shows.

Stephen Paddock's brother Bruce Paddock, who lives in California, said his family grew up in Sun Valley, California. Their father, Benjamin Paddock, was on the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted list for robbing banks.

More at link -->  https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471 (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-suspect-identified-n806471)



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Kinda un-islamic for an ISIS cell member !!!!



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Interview Eric Paddock Brother of Las Vegas Shooter.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 12:43:01 pm
wow

"no political, no religious, none of that stuff" - says his brother.

"find out where he got the machine guns from" - says his brother.

Interview Eric Paddock Brother of Las Vegas Shooter.













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 12:49:03 pm
A lot of speculation but not a lot of documented evidence so far.

https://infowars.com/fbi-source-vegas-shooter-found-with-antifa-literature-photos-taken-in-middle-east/


FBI Source: Vegas Shooter Found with Antifa Literature, Photos Taken in Middle East

Shooter opened fired on hostage rescue team who took him out, says source

The Las Vegas shooter didn’t commit suicide as the mainstream media is reporting, but was killed by a FBI hostage rescue team who also found Antifa literature in his hotel room, according to a source linked to the team.

The FBI team took the suspect out after he opened fired on them, according to the source, and afterwards the team found photos taken in the Middle East of a woman linked to the suspect, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock.

ISIS recently took responsibility for the mass shooting, and the AP even admitted ISIS doesn’t take responsibility unless it’s at least loosely associated with the attack:

More at link:  https://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-vegas-shooter-found-with-antifa-literature-photos-taken-in-middle-east/
 (https://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-vegas-shooter-found-with-antifa-literature-photos-taken-in-middle-east/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: TheJudge on Oct 02, 2017, 12:56:39 pm
Does anyone have any experience or an opinion on Kevin Shipp (current guest on Jones Show)??...high level CIA...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 01:03:49 pm
Does anyone have any experience or an opinion on Kevin Shipp (current guest on Jones Show)??...high level CIA...



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I found this entry over at wikispooks
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Kevin_Shipp

And this more positive spin on NaturalNews
https://www.naturalnews.com/2016-10-28-cia-whistleblower-breaks-silence-on-climate-engineering-vaccine-damage.html

Twitter
https://twitter.com/kevin_shipp?lang=en

Its always difficult discernment on X CIA, did they really leave or are they real patriot whistle-blowers ?


On the same day, Alex Jones makes wild AntiFa claims from an alleged high level source, I should be suspicious.
But, I want him to be another Ray McGovern.

And to make things extra complicated, maybe he is genuine, but fed dis-info from one of his old friends in the CIA - knowing he would blurt it out to AJ.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas:Woman told crowd 'you're all going to fucking die' before attack..
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 01:14:08 pm
Las Vegas shooting: Woman told crowd 'you're all going to fucking die' before attack started
https://www.davidicke.com/article/430521/las-vegas-shooting-woman-told-crowd-youre-going-fucking-die-attack-started
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'Concert goers were told “You’re all going to fucking die” less than an hour before the Las Vegas shooting started, it has been claimed.

A woman in the crowd is said to have yelled the warning about 45 minutes before the Route 91 Harvest festival became the venue for the worst mass shooting in US history.

After her outburst, it was claimed, the woman and her male companion were made to leave the venue by security.

Less than an hour later, an attack began that left at least 50 people dead.

Witness Brianna Hendricks, said the woman had been behaving strangely before her outburst.

Ms Hendricks, who had been in Vegas to celebrate her 21st birthday, told Mail Online: “There was a lady who came running up behind us in the concert and she started to play with people's hair, acting crazy, and she told us that we're all going to fucking die.

“She said they're all around us and we were going to die.”'

Read more: Las Vegas shooting: Woman told crowd 'you're all going to fucking die' before attack started (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-attack-warning-eyewitness-what-happened-latest-news-updates-a7978821.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 02, 2017, 01:17:36 pm
Blast from the past, make no mistake, this is the GLOBALISTS MOTIVE:

Aurora false flag motive: Enslave you via behavioral analysis precrime sensor grid
Just to point out, this agenda is not "because of" the false flag shooting in Aurora--this goal has been envisioned for decades (the non-fiction writings of H.G. Wells, Zbigniew Brzezinski's book Between Two Ages which discusses and explains using Cybernetics as a means to enforce a Communist system).

See: Cybernetics in the Service of Communism
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1967/mar-apr/sleeper.html

The elite who own and run this country know that Americans are not going to just go along with ultra high tech slavery without significant resistance. So to address their "problem", they carry out mass murders using govt. spec ops assassins and then blame a patsy for the crime the government committed. This psyops you into feeling that it has to be done (their Nazi "security" implementations) in order to keep people safe from mass murders from people "who had no signs they could do such things".

The 1st article is from 2011:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047207/Homeland-Security-uses-Minority-Report-style-uses-algorithms-predict-behaviour.html

Homeland Security uses Minority Report-style system that uses algorithms to predict behaviour
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
UPDATED: 16:06 EST, 9 October 2011

An internal Homeland Security document has revealed that a controversial Minority Report-style programme designed to predict whether a person will commit a crime is already in use. The FAST system, which stands for Future Attribute Screening Technology, is being tested on some members of the public voluntarily.

In Minority Report, the 'PreCrime' police department apprehends criminals based on foreknowledge provided by three psychics called 'precogs.'

But the DHS is banking on algorithms to do the job. It is building a 'prototype screening facility' that it hopes will use factors such as ethnicity, gender, breathing, and heart rate to 'detect cues indicative of mal-intent.' The push to 'collect, process, or retain information on members of the public,' came to light through an internal DHS document obtained under open-government laws by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (Epic), CBS News reports.

Ginger McCall, open government counsel at the D.C.-based EPIC, a nonprofit group, said: 'If it were deployed against the public, it would be very problematic.'

In the document FAST programme manager Robert Middleton Jr. refers to a 'limited' initial trial using DHS employees as test subjects.

He says that FAST 'sensors will non-intrusively collect video images, audio recordings, and psycho-physiological measurements from the employees,' with a subgroup singled out, with their permission, for more rigorous evaluation.

FAST is designed to monitor body movements, voice pitch changes, changes in the rhythm and intonation of speech, eye movements, body heat changes and breathing patterns. Blink rate and pupil variation are also measured and age and occupation are also factored in.

FAST has already been tested in at least one undisclosed location in the north east.

DHS spokesman John Verrico said earlier this year: 'It is not an airport, but it is a large venue that is a suitable substitute for an operational setting.'

Miss McCall said the DHS Privacy Office should once again review the current state of the FAST project, pointing out that the most recent privacy analysis was completed in December 2008.

She said: 'They should do a privacy impact assessment.

Relying on ambiguous biological factors to predict mal-intent is worrisome, she said.

'Especially if they're going to be rolling this out at the airport. I don't know about you, but going to an airport gives me a minor panic attack, wondering if I'm going to get groped by a TSA officer,' Miss McCall added.
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Now for the recent article that references this with current events:

Before I post this, ever hear of Due Process of Law? Ever hear of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? How about specifically, the 4th and 5th amendments of the Constitution?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/chris-matthews-actually-asks-if-movie-minority-report-could-become-reality-to-capture-criminals-ahead-of-time/

CHRIS MATTHEWS ACTUALLY ASKS IF MOVIE ‘MINORITY REPORT’ COULD BECOME REALITY TO CAPTURE CRIMINALS AHEAD OF TIME
Posted on July 24, 2012 at 5:19pm

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MSNBC‘s Chris Matthews apparently wants Tom Cruise’s character from the 2002 movie “Minority Report” to help U.S. law enforcement predict the future and make arrests before a crime is committed. Matthews made the outlandish suggestion Monday night as he was discussing the tragic “Dark Knight” shooting in Aurora, Colo. where 12 people were killed and 50 injured.

Talking directly to Dr. Michael Brannon, a forensic psychologist and director at the Institute for Behavioral Sciences and the Law, the “Hardball” host fantasized about a world where people were arrested before they could commit such atrocities.

“You know, I’ve seen — I’m a movie buff, like everybody knows,” Matthews said. “I hope everybody remains a movie buff, to be quite blunt about this, because I love them, the experience of going to a theater.”

Matthews continued: “But here’s the question. I saw a movie called ‘Minority Report.’ Tom Cruise was in it, sci-fi movie that said you can catch people ahead of time. You can find their projection into the future. I know that’s the sci-fi part. Is there any way in real life to figure out a guy like this ahead of time?”

Seemingly surprised by the odd question, Dr. Brannon eventually humored Matthews and answered the question.
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“Chris, prediction is very difficult because not a lot of people do these kinds behaviors. In psychology, we talk about the base rate being real low,” Brannon said.

“So we don’t know a lot about these kinds of people. We know in general what increases risk potential and causes people to be more dangerous, but we don’t know specifically what causes someone to do this kind of behavior.”

The doctor also explained that only a small percentage of mentally ill individuals commit attacks as horrifying as the shooter did in Colorado.

Watch the “Hardball” segment via MSNBC here:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/hardball/48293516#48293516

What may be even more disturbing is that real-life “Minority Report” technology is actually being developed by the Department of Homeland Security.

The Future Attribute Screening Technology (FAST) program, which has moved onto stage two of testing, uses a computer program that analyzes a person’s physiological indicators, such as heart rate, and then uses the information to determine whether that individual has “malintent,” the intent to cause harm.
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Remember what happened after 9/11? Muslims/arabs were "the enemy", and the govt. talked about profiling them--but in reality, their agenda was always to profile EVERYONE. Now YOU are the enemy, and ALL HUMAN BEHAVIOR IS NOW SUSPECT. Don't you get it yet? This has nothing to do with security, it is to 100% enslave humanity and enable a dictatorship far worse than any in history--one enforced by autonomous surveillance, autonomous mechanisms to punish you for non-compliance, autonomous mechanisms and systems to restrict your movements/ability to travel, and ultimately, autonomous weapon systems to kill anyone who opposes being enslaved (i.e. UAV's). It is the OPPOSITE of everything that defines freedom.

They didn't get the mileage they wanted with their "white Al-Qaeda" patsy in Norway, so they staged this false flag in America. Btw, at the 2008 Bilderberg meeting in Chantilly, VA, Bilderberg called for the need to create the "white Al-Qaeda threat", because they knew they needed a replacement for their bearded boogey man that made hundreds of billions of dollars for U.S. defense contractors. Isn't James Holmes the perfect replacement for the Bin Laden threat? Just think, now your nextdoor neighbor might be an insane shooter deep inside, and the only way you can know for sure is if everyone is enslaved in DHS's fascist, beyond Nazi behavioral surveillance artificial intelligence algorithm sensors.

Look at these pieces of shit:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh8r4nWMty4

https://www.thenation.com/article/americans-are-finding-new-ways-to-join-the-surveillance-state/

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/creepy-nationwide-network-of-spy-cameras-will-transform-america-into-an-orwellian-prison-camp



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 02, 2017, 01:31:03 pm
The thing is, I never thought Alex Jones would 'break' a story on the basis that a CIA Agent told him...


Murdered 58
Injured 515


Above all, its the ultimate gun-grabbers dream, and last time I checked both sides in Washington are determined to grab the guns.

I would point out that the high numbers suggests, but does not prove more than one shooter might have been involved.



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What's a larger number, 58+ dead or 2+ million in Iraq in Afghanistan, oh and what about Libya, Yemen, et.al.?  Oh wait I see, in 99.9999% of peoples minds those people weren't murdered "because we were at war, and the guvmint said dey were turrusits". (misspellings on purpose).  Notice how no one is calling for disarming the military, or preventing defense contractors from building weapons expressly designed to murder anti-globalists home and abroad.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 01:47:04 pm
CAUTION RANDOM THOUGHTS

The girl in the polka dot dress

RFK

MK-Ultra

Operation Gladio & P2 Lodge



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - I'll say no more, look.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 02:23:10 pm
I'll say no more, look.

(https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/EAC5/production/_98110106_mandalay_bay_hotel_shooting_976map-nc.png)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 02:36:25 pm
What's a larger number, 58+ dead or 2+ million in Iraq in Afghanistan, oh and what about Libya, Yemen, et.al.?  Oh wait I see, in 99.9999% of peoples minds those people weren't murdered "because we were at war, and the guvmint said dey were turrusits". (misspellings on purpose).  Notice how no one is calling for disarming the military, or preventing defense contractors from building weapons expressly designed to murder anti-globalists home and abroad.



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Excellent point Effie.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 02:49:40 pm
Article has a lot of pictures including a view of 32nd flr that looks out at venue.  There is also brief audio of police breaching the door.

https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940808/Moment-police-blew-door-Las-Vegas-shooter-s-hotel-room.html

This is the moment police closed in on the Las Vegas shooter and blew off the door to his hotel room 72 minutes after he started opening fire on country music festival revelers, killing 58 and injuring more than 500.

Stephen Paddock, 64, opened fire on the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas Village from a room across the street in the Mandalay Bay Hotel at 10.08pm on Sunday.

It took police one hour and 12 minutes
to locate Paddock in his hotel room on the 32nd floor after they received the first 911 call. Authorities say Paddock, who had been holed up in the room for several days, killed himself before officers breached the room at 11.20pm.

Officers found him among an 'arsenal' of weapons and ammunition, including at least 10 guns.

Moments before SWAT teams closed in on Paddock, officers could be heard on an audio recording warning others to get back in the hallway on the 32nd floor so they could breach his room.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 02, 2017, 03:37:30 pm
Article has a lot of pictures including a view of 32nd flr that looks out at venue.  There is also brief audio of police breaching the door.

https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940808/Moment-police-blew-door-Las-Vegas-shooter-s-hotel-room.html

Moments before SWAT teams closed in on Paddock, officers could be heard on an audio recording warning others to get back in the hallway on the 32nd floor so they could breach his room.



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The police scanner audio contradicts Jones's alleged 'CIA source' who said that there was an exchange of fire between police and the shooter when they entered his hotel room. This was the same 'source' who allegedly stated that there was 'antifa crap everywhere' in the shooter's room.

My suspicion is that Alex Jones fabricated the entire 'CIA source' storyline. The reason he would do this is to support his insane rambling about an antifa civil war, and also that when it comes out that there was no antifa material in the alleged shooter's room, Jones can say that it is a media coverup.

If there was Antifa material, or Infowars/ Stormfront material, or Isis material, or whatever, this would serve to indicate a false flag more than anything else. It is also entirely possible, or likely, that the whole narrative is fiction and the alleged shooter was dead before any of the actual shooting occurred. However certain people will only point out that possibility if it suits their own narrative.




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 02, 2017, 04:58:56 pm
Cnn Video discussing the distance and location of shooting

https://cnn.com/videos/us/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-distance-locaton-details-maps-foreman-wolf.cnn



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 05:09:20 pm












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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 05:24:22 pm
Another very short clip of the brother being interviewed.

'No logic' to what happened - Las Vegas suspect's brother













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Arrested near White House - Claims He Was A CIA MK Ultra Asset[
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 02, 2017, 05:41:42 pm
Former Police Officer Arrested With Massive Arsenal Near White House, Claims He Was A CIA MK Ultra Asset
https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/former-police-officer-arrested-massive-arsenal-near-white-house-claims-cia-mk-ultra-asset.html

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'A former Memphis police officer was recently arrested near the White House after police found a variety of weapons during a search in which the man openly claimed to work for the Central Intelligence Agency.

The man, Timothy J. Bates, was arrested last Sunday with an arsenal of firearms, including an assault rifle and a loaded AK-47. The weapons were found after Bates oddly allowed officers to search his car while ranting about a CIA microchip implanted in his head and the need for his paycheck which would presumably be for work he carried out for the agency (if true).

“According to court documents, Bates was approached by uniformed members of the Secret Service on Sunday at the corner of 17th Street NW and Pennsylvania Avenue as he appeared to be publicly urinating. He told the officers he was trying to reach Defense Secretary James Mattis or NSA Director Mike Rogers for advice on missing paychecks and how to get the dog chip out of my head,” The New York Post reported.

“Bates told the Secret Service officers that he had been offered $28.7 million by the Department of Homeland Security and the state of Tennessee to participate in the CIA’s ‘MK Ultra’ program and that he had a chip planted in his head that was causing him ‘severe headaches, shaking and convulsions,'” the report continued.'

Read more: http://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/former-police-officer-arrested-massive-arsenal-near-white-house-claims-cia-mk-ultra-asset.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 02, 2017, 05:46:46 pm
Was Wackenhut involved in this FF?

G4S
http://local.g4s.us/las-vegas

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=228340.msg1342017#msg1342017


BOMBSHELL: Solving The Puzzle – G4S Behind Ft. Lauderdale Shooting
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=318686.msg1616999#msg1616999

It will be interesting to see how our (USA) 'crisis president' responds to the 'SOLUTION' phase of this operation,



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 02, 2017, 06:16:38 pm
Was G4S Involved with this FF?  Were they running security for this major event?
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Five things that just don’t add up about the Las Vegas mass shooting
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-five-things-that-just-dont-add-up-about-the-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html


Although the news reporting on this shooting is still in its early stages, there are five strange things that just don’t add up about this massacre (so far). I run through them below.

#1) Dozens of concert-goers reported the presence of multiple shooters

Although law enforcement says there was only one shooter, multiple witnesses are openly reporting the presence of multiple shooters. This could reasonably be the result of confusion and chaos, but it’s also highly suspicious that the shooter had “full auto” weapon which is usually limited to law enforcement or military personnel.

This question about multiple shooters was also raised after the Aurora, Colorado “Batman movie theater” shooting, in which numerous witnesses reported the presence of multiple shooters.

If this shooting was carried out by multiple shooters, it would obviously indicate planning and coordination among a group of people who sought to carry out the shooting for a political purpose of some kind.

#2) Who warned concert-goers they were “all going to die” a full 45 minutes before the shooting started?

Via the UK Express:

One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were “all going to die” after pushing her way to the front of the venue.

The witness, 21, told local news: “She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die.

“They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious.”

She described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man.

The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like “everyday people”.

It’s clear that neither of these two people were the shooter, as the shooter is a much taller Caucasian man. Thus, this is not a “lone gunman” massacre. There was coordination. At least three people were aware this shooting was about to take place.

#3) The weapon you hear on videos was FULL AUTO, which is almost impossible to acquire through legal means

The multitude of videos that captured the event clearly indicate that at least one shooter was running a full auto weapons system. Such weapons are almost impossible for “civilians” to acquire. Although some pre-1986 full auto weapons are available for sale, they require extensive ATF documentation, background checks and extremely long wait periods approaching one year. Plus, they tend to cost $25,000 or more, and they’re extremely rare.

Full auto weapons, however, are widely owned by police officers, federal officials and military organizations. It will be very interesting to find out where this weapon came from and how it was acquired.

#4) Why were the exits blocked, trapping victims like rats in a maze?

Numerous reports from witnesses who were on the scene reveal that nearly all the exits were blocked. One witness described the situation as “being caught like a rat in a maze” with numerous “dead ends.”

Why were nearly all the exits blocked? In essence, the concert created a kill zone that amplified the casualties. So far, according to the Clark County Sheriff in Vegas, 515 people have been injured and 59 people have so far died. These are unthinkable numbers, approaching war-time casualty counts. It’s clear from the coverage that this shockingly high body count would not have been possible if people had been free to flee the concert venue.

In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

In addition, once the shooting started, the stage lights were turned to the crowd, lighting up the crowd and making them an easier target for the shooter(s). Was this deliberate?

#5) Why did the shooter have as many as 10 firearms in his room?

According to news reports, the shooter — identified as Stephen Paddock — had as many as 10 firearms in his room, including several rifles. If he was the only shooter, what’s the point of having so many rifles? One man can obviously only shoot one rifle, and since he had a full auto rifle, he could obviously achieve his evil aims by focusing on his one rifle. There was no need for him to have multiple rifles.

So were the other rifles brought to the room to “stage” the crime scene with an abundance of guns? Why would one elderly man bother to carry 8 – 10 weapons to a hotel room in the first place? That’s a lot of work. Rifles aren’t lightweight devices.

I find the idea that a lone, elderly man would carry so many rifles to a hotel room for no practical reason to be highly suspicious. It makes no sense at all.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Video of Shooter On Low Floor At Mandalay Bay - NOT 32nd
Post by: Richie Allen Show on Oct 02, 2017, 06:37:18 pm
Video of Shooter On Low Floor At Mandalay Bay, NOT 32nd













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Video of Shooter On Low Floor At Mandalay Bay - NOT 32nd
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 02, 2017, 09:23:53 pm
Video of ('A') Shooter On Low Floor At Mandalay Bay, NOT 32nd













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This may very well prove that there were more than one shooters shooting from multiple levels.

Better download and store this video before YouTube / Google does what some people at this forum think is 'good' and remove it.



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The person who posted this video is 'attempting' to dismiss the obvious muzzle fire as a "strobe" that just happens to flash at the very same rate of fire as the gun shots.

Was this video (Like in 911) shot by an operation accomplice to discredit any other shooters caught on cell phones?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 02, 2017, 10:23:07 pm
Christina West • an hour ago
Was anyone else listening to the scanner while it was happening?? What we were hearing was clearly multiple shooters. One man CANNOT be in different locations at the same time.

Natural News
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-five-things-that-just-dont-add-up-about-the-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Boudicca on Oct 02, 2017, 10:31:06 pm
This has false flag written all over it
Back in the 70's, my parents went to Vegas on vacation, and after winning big at blackjack, went to their room and dropped off their winnings and then went to dinner. When they got back to the room, they had been robbed. Not just the money and chips, but my mom's jewelry. They actually caught the woman the next day. How? CCTV in the hotel hallway. That was the 70's for heaven's sake! You can't fart in a Vegas hotel without them knowing. You cannot tell me that this geezer took all those weapons up to a room, shot out the windows of that room, and proceeded to have a gun rampage for 72 mins, and security wasn't all over that? Sorry, don't buy it.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Multiple Shooters Mandalay bay footage proof ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 05:00:51 am
Multiple Shooters Mandalay bay footage proof?













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 05:05:54 am
Christina West • an hour ago
Was anyone else listening to the scanner while it was happening?? What we were hearing was clearly multiple shooters. One man CANNOT be in different locations at the same time.

Natural News
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-five-things-that-just-dont-add-up-about-the-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html



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Here is a video to accompany the article.

Five things that don't add up about the Vegas shooting

TheHealthRanger

Published on Oct 2, 2017
Our hearts and prayers go out to all those killed or injured in the Las Vegas shooting, and in a nation where so many anti-Americans are kneeling in pampered protest, this mass shooting saw veterans and police officers standing up, helping the victims and heading straight for the shooter to take him out. Real Americans don’t kneel, they stand and get to work to save lives. Today I offer tremendous gratitude to all the first responders who helped save lives and stop the violence.

Although the news reporting on this shooting is still in its early stages, there are five strange things that just don’t add up about this massacre (so far). I run through them here.

Follow more news at http://Shootings.news













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Look !
Post by: Brocke on Oct 03, 2017, 05:20:28 am
Several views from Manaday Bay suites. Not the ideal vantage point if you are using a full auto weapon. Way too far away. I would guess at least one other shooter with a high powered sniper rifle.

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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 03, 2017, 05:43:06 am
This has false flag written all over it
Back in the 70's, my parents went to Vegas on vacation, and after winning big at blackjack, went to their room and dropped off their winnings and then went to dinner. When they got back to the room, they had been robbed. Not just the money and chips, but my mom's jewelry. They actually caught the woman the next day. How? CCTV in the hotel hallway. That was the 70's for heaven's sake! You can't fart in a Vegas hotel without them knowing. You cannot tell me that this geezer took all those weapons up to a room, shot out the windows of that room, and proceeded to have a gun rampage for 72 mins, and security wasn't all over that? Sorry, don't buy it.

Right. Forgot about this. EVERYTHING should be on camera. Maybe not inside the suite, but everything, everywhere, before it kicked off. Watch out for them "losing" the footage, which'll be absolute proof of a coverup.

Also can anyone tell me what exactly "Antifa literature" is? I mean I never heard of an Antifa publishing company or printing press. If they actually are putting anything out, wouldn't 99% of it all be electronic instead of evil Emmanuel Goldstein books strewn everywhere?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 05:53:16 am
Las Vegas Mass Murder: A Deeper Perspective and Understanding
WeAreChange

Published on Oct 2, 2017

In this video, Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange gives you the latest breaking news on the latest events in that unfolded in Las Vegas yesterday, with a bigger critic of media and sensationalism during these events when it comes to the news business. Please let me know if you think I am wrong in the comment section below. Timestamp is 8:03 for the most important part of this video

Visit our MAIN SITE for more breaking news http://wearechange.org/













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 03, 2017, 06:41:50 am
The narrative keeps changing.  Initial reports were 8 to 11 weapons found in the hotel room and now it is 23 weapons (handgun and multiple rifles).   It would have taken him a good amount of time and required multiple trips to get  rifles, tripods, ammunition and magazines depending on the rifle from his car to the hotel room.

https://cnn.com/2017/10/03/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html

Las Vegas investigation finds more weapons, but shooter's motive unknown

In his 32nd-floor hotel suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, police recovered 23 weapons, including a handgun, and multiple rifles -- some had scopes on them. Authorities also found several pounds of ammonium nitrate, a material used to make explosives, in his car.

Police also searched the gunman's home in Mesquite, Nevada, where they found at least 19 firearms, explosives, several thousand rounds of ammunition and some electronic devices.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Look !
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 06:50:18 am
Several views from Manaday Bay suites. Not the ideal vantage point if you are using a full auto weapon. Way too far away. I would guess at least one other shooter with a high powered sniper rifle.


I just went an checked it out on Google Maps.
Anyone can do that, once they figured out a few landmarks. (http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2297.msg13467#msg13467)

385 Yards . . .  wow.
That is a heck of a long way to shoot at anything in the dark.

Also the angle for a shooter is 'less than ideal'

Sure, it could be done by somebody who is trained - like a Team of Shooters



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 07:10:00 am
The narrative keeps changing.  Initial reports were 8 to 11 weapons found in the hotel room and now it is 23 weapons (handgun and multiple rifles).   It would have taken him a good amount of time and required multiple trips to get  rifles, tripods, ammunition and magazines depending on the rifle from his car to the hotel room.

https://cnn.com/2017/10/03/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html

Las Vegas investigation finds more weapons, but shooter's motive unknown

In his 32nd-floor hotel suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, police recovered 23 weapons, including a handgun, and multiple rifles -- some had scopes on them. Authorities also found several pounds of ammonium nitrate, a material used to make explosives, in his car.

Police also searched the gunman's home in Mesquite, Nevada, where they found at least 19 firearms, explosives, several thousand rounds of ammunition and some electronic devices.



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The story is imploding, for anyone who is recovering from the shock and started to ask intelligent questions on the mechanics of what happened.

I posted a video last night, showing that the somebody was shooting a machine gun - and its from a different room, and about 30 floors away from the alleged shooter. Videos showing muzzle flashes from locations no where near the alleged shooter have appeared over night.

The shooters motive is dubious, one only has to listen to his brother to realise that the shooter was not interested in politics or religion or anything else for that matter, his brother also says he was not a gun enthusiast and only owned a couple of hand guns and possibly an old hunting rifle.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 03, 2017, 07:50:57 am
It's been floating around that this guy and his girlfriend were possibly spotted at an anti-Trump protest in Reno, NV on August 23rd. Well here are shots I found. I can't tell whether or not it's the guy, but it's definitely NOT his asian girlfriend they've been talking about.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/37/91/e4/3791e407380a649329e3a76edb71c6a2.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/b2/31/02b231cc13541d77e538dbc71c000812.jpg)

P.S. they're both holding the same protest sign



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Taxi Driver's Video ! Must Watch B4 Well You Know , The Take Do
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 09:01:25 am
Lone Gunmen ?

Listen to the audio . . . . .

Then see the muzzle flash, from which floor ( remember we was told 32nd )

Vegas Shooting Taxi Driver's Video ! Must Watch B4 Well You Know , The Take Down !













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Taxi Driver's Video ! Must Watch B4 Well You Know , The Take Do
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 03, 2017, 09:26:56 am
Lone Gunmen ?

Listen to the audio . . . . .

Then see the muzzle flash, from which floor ( remember we was told 32nd )

Vegas Shooting Taxi Driver's Video ! Must Watch B4 Well You Know , The Take Down !


Definitely sounds like two different machine guns.  One closer and one in the distance.  Definitely see flashes on the lower floor.   Thanks for finding this EG.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Taxi Driver's Video ! Must Watch B4 Well You Know , The Take Do
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 09:52:12 am
Definitely sounds like two different machine guns.  One closer and one in the distance.  Definitely see flashes on the lower floor.   Thanks for finding this EG.



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Must be other videos out, so many people have phones with cameras nowadays.

I'm expecting - zero CCTV - or just a few use less clips that prove nothing.
Take downs on YouTube of anyone showing any of the shooter teams.

Last time I heard about how Vegas is run, the answer was nothing, absolutely nothing escapes the attention of the Mafia run Security.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 03, 2017, 10:03:38 am
The usual suspects are crawling out there hidey holes.  Article has embedded link of different opinion pieces of major newspaper and statements from House and Senate Democrats. We will see how much Trump, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell really support the 2nd amendment.


_____________________________ _____________________________ ___________________


https://guns.com/2017/10/03/democrats-demand-gun-control-post-las-vegas-take-aim-at-share-act/

Democrats demand gun control post-Las Vegas, take aim at SHARE Act

Amid calls from anti-gun groups across the spectrum to act in the wake of a mass shooting, Democrats in Washington want to scuttle a sportsmen’s package that includes easing suppressor laws for starters.

The day following a mass killing that claimed the lives of at least 59 people in Las Vegas at the Route 91 Harvest festival near Mandalay Bay casino, Democrats of all stripes went on the offensive against the Sportsmen’s Heritage and Recreational Enhancement Act, or SHARE Act, an omnibus package of pro-gun bills that has drawn heat over its language to remove suppressors from National Firearms Act control.

Former Secretary of State and frequent Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton blasted the SHARE Act as part of her social media response to the shooting on Monday arguing the use of a suppressor would have made the attack worse, a somewhat specious comment due to the fact the shooter is believed to have used high-velocity rifles, which would still have generated a supersonic “crack” due to their ammunition, even had the firearms been suppressed.

“The crowd fled at the sound of gunshots,” said Clinton. “Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get.”

Minnesota Democrat U.S. Rep. Chellie Pingree, citing failed gun control pushes last session in the wake of the Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting, also spoke directly against the SHARE Act package.

“Not only are these bills completely out of touch, they would make it more difficult to know where gunshots are being fired and put law enforcement officers in danger,” she said.

More at link -->  http://www.guns.com/2017/10/03/democrats-demand-gun-control-post-las-vegas-take-aim-at-share-act/ (http://www.guns.com/2017/10/03/democrats-demand-gun-control-post-las-vegas-take-aim-at-share-act/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 03, 2017, 10:05:03 am
Also can anyone tell me what exactly "Antifa literature" is? I mean I never heard of an Antifa publishing company or printing press. If they actually are putting anything out, wouldn't 99% of it all be electronic instead of evil Emmanuel Goldstein books strewn everywhere?



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The only reports of this are from Alex Jones and his secret 'CIA source' (secret sauce more like lol), or those quoting Alex Jones. As I said earlier, I suspect this is a total lie from Jones and there was no source, just a complete fabrication to support his narrative.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 03, 2017, 10:28:33 am

We now have narratives that there were two shooters, or a team of shooters, or no shooters at all. We have narratives ranging from the whole thing being staged and no one really died, to there being separate firing positions operated by remote control and hundreds dead.

Most of these narratives are propagated to deliberately muddy the waters, so that the only clear narrative is the official one.

We also don't know much about the alleged shooter, and in my experience, views from the family can be decades out of date.

To me this has the appearance of a classic patsy operation, but that is just speculation and unfortunately we will never know what actually happened. But what does this change? Not much.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 11:29:39 am
The usual suspects are crawling out there hidey holes.  Article has embedded link of different opinion pieces of major newspaper and statements from House and Senate Democrats. We will see how much Trump, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell really support the 2nd amendment.

Hate to depress you, but it bears more than a passing resemblance to how they disarmed The Ozzies and the Brits.
Here are some of the highlights from the wikipedia pages, just to get a rough quick sketch . . . . . .

Port Arthur massacre (Australia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)

It was the deadliest mass shooting in Australian history, and amongst the most notable in history.

Following the spree, the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, introduced strict gun control laws within Australia and formulated the National Firearms Programme Implementation Act 1996, restricting the private ownership of high capacity semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic shotguns and pump-action shotguns as well as introducing uniform firearms licensing. It was implemented with bipartisan support by the Commonwealth, states and territories.

The massacre happened just six weeks after the Dunblane massacre, in Scotland, which claimed 18 lives, with U.K. Prime Minister John Major reaching out to his counterpart over the shared tragedies; the United Kingdom passed its own changes to gun laws in 1997.


Dunblane massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

The Dunblane school massacre took place at Dunblane Primary School near Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland, on 13 March 1996, when gunman Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and one teacher before committing suicide. It remains the deadliest mass shooting in British history.

Public debate about the killings centred on gun control laws, including public petitions calling for a ban on private ownership of handguns and an official inquiry, which produced the 1996 Cullen Reports. In response to this debate, two new Firearms Acts were passed, which greatly restricted private ownership of firearms in Great Britain.




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 11:40:12 am
We now have narratives that there were two shooters, or a team of shooters, or no shooters at all. We have narratives ranging from the whole thing being staged and no one really died, to there being separate firing positions operated by remote control and hundreds dead.

Most of these narratives are propagated to deliberately muddy the waters, so that the only clear narrative is the official one.
That is a very important observation, and its good to be reminded. I got the chief dis-info agent Alex Jones selling real hard the idea The Patsy was really an ISIS.


We also don't know much about the alleged shooter, and in my experience, views from the family can be decades out of date.
Asking questions and being skeptical is a good starting point. I saw more than one interview, and listening carefully he was in touch with his brother, helped moving house and they texted each other and other details


To me this has the appearance of a classic patsy operation, but that is just speculation and unfortunately we will never know what actually happened. But what does this change? Not much.



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I'd say its becoming clear that he was a Patsy, that another Team of Shooters was operating out of the lower floors of the hotel because they have been caught on video.
How did that woman warn about the shooting 45 minutes before the shooting started ?
That it happened under the shadow of the great pyramid and obelisk is a coincidence ?
The logisitics of that much ammo, the spent cases and assault 23 rifles ?
All this happened without the infamous Mafia run Security teams blessing ?
The gambling connection, how much was he 'into' with the Mafia ?
An hour and a quarter before the Police show up, really ?
The muzzle flash from the 4th floor ?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Michael Savage interviews the neighbor of the shooter
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 11:51:34 am
The short version:  neighbor says no way did he do it, suggests he was a Patsy.

Michael Savage interviews the neighbor of the shooter













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Tony Gosling
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 11:56:43 am
Tony Gosling

https://twitter.com/TonyGosling/status/915219434733801474




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 03, 2017, 12:01:06 pm
Bill referenced in the article is called the SHARE Act

https://chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-las-vegas-shooting-gun-safety-bill-20171003-story.html

Speaker Ryan says NRA-backed bill shelved indefinitely

House Republican leaders called for unity and prayer after the deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas, but offered no new legislation to tighten gun laws and said a bill to ease regulations on gun silencers would be shelved indefinitely.

"We are all reeling from this horror in Las Vegas," Speaker Paul Ryan said at a news conference on Tuesday. "This is just awful."

Ryan said there's no plan for the House to act soon on a National Rifle Association-backed bill to ease regulations on gun silencers. A House panel had backed the bill last month and lawmakers were expected to move ahead on the measure.

The bill is "not scheduled right now. I don't know when it will be scheduled," Ryan said.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravel
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 12:04:08 pm
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE:
Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels;
physical impossibility of lone gunman senior citizen makes narrative ludicrous


Monday, October 02, 2017 by: Mike Adams   
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html

(Natural News (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html)) It’s all hogwash. The “official” narrative of how things went down in the Las Vegas massacre is so full of holes that it begs the question of just how deep the truth about this attack really goes.

What we know for sure is that, yes, 59 people were killed (so far) and hundreds were wounded. This wasn’t a “hoax” shooting — people actually were shot, wounded and killed (and our prayers go out to all their families for this horrific tragedy). Yet the official narrative that claims Stephen Paddock — a retired, 64-year-old accountant with absolutely no firearms training, no gun experience and no physical stamina — was somehow able to expertly wield a highly complex (and physically demanding) weapon system for 10 sustained minutes is total nonsense.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.


READ MORE
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 12:07:04 pm
Las Vegas Shooting: Taxi Cab Recording Suggests Multiple Shooter Locations
Posted on October 3, 2017 by willyloman
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-shooting-taxi-cab-recording-suggests-multiple-shooter-locations/
by Scott Creighton

Scott G. sent me a link to a video recorded by a cabbie in Vegas who was at the Mandalay Bay hotel Sunday night waiting in the cab line for a fare. Her video would seem to suggest there were multiple shooter locations during the attack since it is directly underneath where the broken windows were located and on the same side as the shooting. I went to Google earth and made a graphic of the locations so it’s easier to put her location in the proper context before watching the video.

(https://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/layout-7.jpg)

(https://i2.wp.com/www.billboard.com/files/styles/article_main_image/public/media/Las-Vegas-Map-Illo-2017-billboard-1548.jpg)

(https://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/layout-8.jpg?w=468&h=286)

She is right in front of what they call the “porch” at Mandalay. That’s basically the front door. In the graphic it’s where the line from the “the hotel is about 400 yards from the stage” call out is.

Now look at this:

(https://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/layout-9.jpg?w=468&h=372)

She was right under the windows that were broken out.

Now here’s the video.











You can hear some of the rounds being fired right above her. But you can also hear some being fired from some distance away.

Draw your own conclusions but to me it certainly sounds like there were multiple shooter locations triangulating the concert.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 03, 2017, 12:23:49 pm
That's the video right there I've been waiting for. Just listened and watched the whole thing. I double checked that the fire from a distance wasn't an echo and it wasn't. The fire farther away starts before the closer fire at one point.

I also noticed as she was driving away, it seemed as though the magazine running out or something made the automatic fire slow down unnaturally (as in an exponential decrease and not just stopping short or at random). I'm simply guessing this could mean it was a fed machine gun instead of a drum magazine, but I could be wrong; I've never heard automatic gunfire in real life.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - first pictures of the scary guns
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 03, 2017, 12:50:25 pm
Scary guns make you scared

https://fox25boston.com/news/only-on-boston-25-exclusive-photos-of-las-vegas-shooters-guns/618716556





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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 03, 2017, 01:46:31 pm
I'd say its becoming clear that he was a Patsy, that another Team of Shooters was operating out of the lower floors of the hotel because they have been caught on video.



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AFAIK there is some video of what could be muzzle flash on lower floors, but this does not necessarily indicate a team of shooters there.

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How did that woman warn about the shooting 45 minutes before the shooting started ?
That it happened under the shadow of the great pyramid and obelisk is a coincidence ?
The logisitics of that much ammo, the spent cases and assault 23 rifles ?
All this happened without the infamous Mafia run Security teams blessing ?
The gambling connection, how much was he 'into' with the Mafia ?
An hour and a quarter before the Police show up, really ?
The muzzle flash from the 4th floor ?

These are reasonable questions, but it's unlikely that there will be answers that point in a convergent direction, if any at all.

The establishment want people to endlessly speculate about this event, indeed most of the narratives are likely deliberate disinfo tp this end, but the important question is why it was done.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravel
Post by: Q on Oct 03, 2017, 02:23:53 pm
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE:
Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels;
physical impossibility of lone gunman senior citizen makes narrative ludicrous


Monday, October 02, 2017 by: Mike Adams   
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html

(Natural News (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html)) It’s all hogwash. The “official” narrative of how things went down in the Las Vegas massacre is so full of holes that it begs the question of just how deep the truth about this attack really goes.

What we know for sure is that, yes, 59 people were killed (so far) and hundreds were wounded. This wasn’t a “hoax” shooting — people actually were shot, wounded and killed (and our prayers go out to all their families for this horrific tragedy). Yet the official narrative that claims Stephen Paddock — a retired, 64-year-old accountant with absolutely no firearms training, no gun experience and no physical stamina — was somehow able to expertly wield a highly complex (and physically demanding) weapon system for 10 sustained minutes is total nonsense.

Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.


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https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html



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I don't buy the argument that a 64 year old man (not quite a senior citizen!) would not be able to sustain the use of automatic rifles for 10 minutes.

The author may have been talking about machine guns such as M60/GPMG, but these have a different note to small arms, which are the likely weapons in this event by most accounts.

From the videos, there were also frequent pauses in the firing, and quite long pauses. This could be to rest and/or change weapons etc.

It's true that converted semi-autos may be more prone to jam, so the answer would be to have many different backup weapons, which the official narrative claims..

Who says that this guy did not have any weapons training? That assumption is unjustified at this point.

There were 2 broken windows which might have been to create a through breeze to clear the smoke and heat?

However none of this means that Paddock was not a patsy, indeed it seems likely that he was, but the cited arguments in the article do not hold water imo.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 03, 2017, 02:43:55 pm

The muzzle flash from the 4th floor ?



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Another thing that bothers me about the '4th floor muzzle flash' storyline, is that I believe these types of hotel windows do not open. They do this in order to maintain the uniformity of the appearance of the building (randomly open windows would create a 'messy' look).

If this is the case (it would be good to find out), then the windows would need to be broken in order to shoot out of them, and the only broken windows are those on the 32nd floor.

EDIT: I have just called the Mandalay Bay hotel and they confirmed that the windows do NOT open.




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 03, 2017, 03:05:22 pm
Another thing that bothers me about the '4th floor muzzle flash' storyline, is that I believe these types of hotel windows do not open. They do this in order to maintain the uniformity of the appearance of the building (randomly open windows would create a 'messy' look).

If this is the case (it would be good to find out), then the windows would need to be broken in order to shoot out of them, and the only broken windows are those on the 32nd floor.

EDIT: I have just called the Mandalay Bay hotel and they confirmed that the windows do NOT open.


Yea I'm stating to wonder about the muzzle flash directly below where the smashed windows are (4th floor) It doesn't really seem to match up with the gunfire sound in the cabby video which was nearby and not hundreds of yards away. Regardless, the audio at the start does prove there was more than one shooter.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 03, 2017, 04:41:21 pm
From the people who brought you stop and frisk.
_____________________________ ____________________

https://cnbc.com/2017/10/02/howard-safir-on-las-vegas-shooting-americans-may-need-to-give-up-privacy.html

'We maybe have to give up a little bit of our privacy,' says ex-NYC police head after Vegas shooting

Americans may need to give up some of their freedoms to protect against attacks such as Sunday night's Las Vegas concert massacre, said Howard Safir, former New York City police commissioner.

"Let me preface what I'm about to say, so the civil libertarians understand what I'm saying, I believe the No. 1 civil right is to be free from harm. And in order to do that in a civilized society ... we maybe have to give up a little bit of our privacy," Safir told CNBC's "Squawk on the Street" on Monday.

Authorities said the suspected shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock of Nevada, appeared to have killed himself before police stormed his 32nd-floor Mandalay Bay hotel room, where they say he fired a high-capacity weapon on people below at a country music festival.

Acknowledging there's much still to be learned about Paddock, his state of mind, and his motivations, Safir said, "There should be a database for police departments and federal agencies of people who have been ... mentally disturbed where before you get a gun these people have to be cleared in order to process them."

It's not known whether Paddock obtained the weapons he had in that hotel room legally or illegally. Safir, however, said there should be more requirements of legal gun owners.

"We need to make people responsible for the guns they own. I'm not saying that we should do away with Second Amendment rights," he said. "What I'm saying is, for instance, we should have a required safety check every year of somebody who purchases a gun. Bring in your weapon."




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 03, 2017, 07:00:10 pm



https://abcnews.go.com/US/guns-loaded-high-capacity-magazines-found-vegas-shooters/story?id=50228093

42 guns, loaded high-capacity magazines found in Vegas shooter's hotel room and Nevada home

By Meghan Keneally

Oct 2, 2017, 10:44 PM

Excerpt from article

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A modified bump stock rifle was also found, which allows a gun to simulate rapid automatic gunfire. Law enforcement officials are still in the process of examining firearms to determine if they were capable of firing automatically.

One official said Paddock had a camera mounted in the room, apparently to record himself.




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 03, 2017, 07:06:59 pm
Updated story about video.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/las-vegas-democrats-seething-gun-control-inaction-congress/story?id=50265186

Las Vegas massacre: Suspect set up cameras inside and outside hotel room

By EMILY SHAPIRO
Karma Allen

Oct 3, 2017, 5:03 PM ET

The man suspected of gunning down 59 people from a perch high up in Las Vegas' Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino had cameras set up inside and outside of his hotel room, authorities said today.

"I anticipate he was looking for anybody coming to take him into custody," Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said today. Sources told ABC News the suspect utilized at least one camera outside the room possibly to monitor approaching police. Lombardo said there was a camera on a service cart in the hallway.

"FBI took all digital and electronic evidence into custody," Lombardo added



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2017, 07:29:10 pm
Updated story about video.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/las-vegas-democrats-seething-gun-control-inaction-congress/story?id=50265186

Las Vegas massacre: Suspect set up cameras inside and outside hotel room

By EMILY SHAPIRO
Karma Allen

Oct 3, 2017, 5:03 PM ET

The man suspected of gunning down 59 people from a perch high up in Las Vegas' Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino had cameras set up inside and outside of his hotel room, authorities said today.

"I anticipate he was looking for anybody coming to take him into custody," Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said today. Sources told ABC News the suspect utilized at least one camera outside the room possibly to monitor approaching police. Lombardo said there was a camera on a service cart in the hallway.

"FBI took all digital and electronic evidence into custody," Lombardo added



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Come to think of it, now that you mention it, anyone seen any CCTV ?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 03, 2017, 08:21:22 pm
Come to think of it, now that you mention it, anyone seen any CCTV ?



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Only the old 2011 footage of him slipping and "breakin' his neck and his back" and trying to sue them. Proves this guy was probably known by every security team on The Strip.

Unless someone can leak something obtained before the FBI got their hands on any of it, we aren't going to see anything from this past weekend for a week at the least.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 03, 2017, 08:39:00 pm
Also, remember this y'all, just because people are shot doesn't mean there are going to be rivers of blood in the streets. A bomb, yes. Gunshot wounds, not necessarily.

I've had acquaintances who ran blocks with 5.56 holes in them. I've been cut before and saw my bone with one or two drops of blood the whole time.

People are expecting to see Kill Bill scenes and unless we're talking 50 caliber, that just doesn't happen. Watch out for these false reasons for conspiracy.

P.S. A certain forum wants more blood. They want to see MOAR BLOOD




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 04, 2017, 12:05:37 am

I've also noticed, no one is asking what kind of ammunition was used. I've only heard about calibers. Certain calibers can be hollow points, full metal jackets, armor piercing, etc... All of these different options change velocity, exit wounds, range, handling, etc...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 04, 2017, 12:47:02 am
Multiple shooters from the Hotel were definitely used. Here's why.

1.) The meme was immediately put out that "a full auto weapon 'confuses people' where large buildings are surrounding those people." This is true for the first minutes. However, according to the corporate media this 'event' lasted 72 minutes.

Once people were pinned down they knew exactly where the gunfire was coming from. There is plenty of video, of lots of people (for some reason), standing up and pointing to the hotel as the weapons(s) where being fired. Not one of them is "confused" what-so-ever.

2.) The first thing the FBI did when making their rounds on the corporate media circuit was 'dispel' multiple shooters by congratulating the local police for "zeroing in" on the 30+ floor of the Hotel.  He also used the "full auto surrounding buildings confusion" meme to sell the lone gunman meme.

3.) What the FBI talking head failed to mention was that the first police officers at the scene are eyewitness to shooter(s) in middle of hotel NOT the 30+ floor yet.

Audio from the Vegas police obtained from police scanners have officers witnessing gun fire from "the middle of the hotel" BEFORE shots from the 30+ floor were scene.  No confusion what-so-ever.

4.) Taxi driver right under shooter in the hotel drive way confirms what the first police officers will later see, shots being fired from the "10th floor of the hotel". - Taxi driver (6:11) (Close to the middle of the hotel)










BTW-
The taxi video from the Hotel driveway has crystal clear audio and having worked in Naval ordnance I can assure you that particular weapon firing was a much high caliber than an 'AR 15' full auto from the good old days.  Also this particular weapon is much closer to the phone camera than 30+ foods up.

5.) Gunfire seems to end once the bulk of the police show up.  In the above Taxi video it took the police an awful long time to show up to where the concert actually was, let alone the hotel.  Again we heard the meme "confusion" when 'officials' were asked why it took them so long to respond.  However, the dispatch in the taxi video, it was known by them that the hotel was ground zero rather early and they get their information from the local police.

Police scanner audio indicates shooting stopped once multiple police officers were at the actual scene,

6.) Gunfire on the 4th floor or just a curious strobe light?

There are multiple videos on the flashing light on the fourth floor it's, even in the Taxi driver's video.  Just for the sake of argument let's say that this flashing light is in deed a strobe light.  However, if this is simply a strobe light, why is it directed outward an why does it 'cycle' and pause with the actual gun fire?  If this was a strobe light, was it set up to distract anyone armed that could have taken a pop shot at the real shooter(s).   ... and this flashing light takes us to...

7.) The 'No multiple shooters, no broken glass' meme

If you're going to use multiple shooters in a false flag as a part of asymmetric warfare over the hearts and minds of your target population, a hotel is the perfect location for such an operation.  The concert a perfect target.

The argument has been made that if other shooters were involved that, "there would have been broken out windows".  The counter argument, is absolutely not.  In fact, the 'only' broken glass would be the window your patsy (Lee Harvey Oswald) was 'purportedly' shooting out of.  How's that possible?

It's possible because when constructing large hotels like the MGM in Vegas they are built knowing that windows will have to be replaced from time to time and sometimes even the window frames themselves.

If a pre-event crew can wire three high-rises with thermite (which has been scientifically proven in the case of 911) the same people could easily fabricate the windows to 'pop out' and be popped right back in again once the police 'finally' arrive to the scene of the operation.

8.) A hotel hideaway for multiple shooters.

A hotel is a perfect place to set up shop for a false flag as your assassins can sleep easy at night knowing all the attention will be on the room the patsy was staying in.

What about all that hardware?  Guns ammo and such? How do they get that out?  That's an easy question that was answered by the people putting out the meme on how an elderly man could get a small gun collection up to his hotel room.  Call the front desk and have them carry them out for you hidden in plain sight.

9.) Motive by the powers that shouldn't be

The rouge members of the US government have made it no secrete that they want to full disarm the American people.  As it stands, the number of armed citizens in USA legal or not, constitutes a large army in it's own right.  This make the one world globalization agenda 2030 hard to pull off.

The US government has also made it no secrete that they will use 'events' like the one in Las vegas to move their agenda (of the day) forward.  See operation Northwoods.

What really is amazing, is that the US government has been engaged in these very operations for over a century and people act like those in control of this government could never do something like this.  Even though one of their very own gets on television and tells the masses that killing over 500,000 children "was worth it"  (See Madeline Albright)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Brocke on Oct 04, 2017, 01:25:20 am
Bump Fire with the Slide Fire SSAR15 accuracy and 100 Rounds













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 04, 2017, 01:36:19 am
Bump Fire with the Slide Fire SSAR15 accuracy and 100 Rounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5AyjpiPhsU



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No accuracy seen.   ;D



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Brocke on Oct 04, 2017, 01:45:58 am
No accuracy seen.   ;D

At 10 yards you can be fairly accurate. At 300 to 400 yards I would doubt any real accuacy.

World's Fastest Shooter vs Bump Fire!










A full auto weapon would need to be solid mounted for any accuracy.

I think that there were at least two shooters. With one walking around the on the ground picking off targets Port Arthur style.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 04, 2017, 01:56:35 am
I really think some sort of .308+ rifle took a few shots. Heavy, with a drop.  :(

I saw a couple of different doctors on the news saying they had never seen gunshot wounds so serious before...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Brocke on Oct 04, 2017, 02:06:57 am
I really think some sort of .308+ rifle took a few shots. Heavy, with a drop.  :(

I saw a couple of different doctors on the news saying they had never seen gunshot wounds so serious before...



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We have yet to see any amount of blood or bloodied individuals. There are only two photos with blood and both have very little.

Where are the 59 chalk outlines?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 04, 2017, 03:11:39 am
I still do not understand why it took so long for law enforcement to arrive at the alleged source of the firing and intervene.

Unless law enforcement was told to stand down.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Brocke on Oct 04, 2017, 03:34:08 am
I still do not understand why it took so long for law enforcement to arrive at the alleged source of the firing and intervene.

Unless law enforcement was told to stand down.



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In one of the taxi videos you can clearly hear that another driver at the airport was informed of an active shooter within minutes of the first shots.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 04:16:36 am
Body Camera Video, Pictures From Hotel Room Released After Las Vegas Shooting

CBS Boston
Published on Oct 3, 2017

New details are being released after the mass shooting at a country music festival in Las Vegas. WBZ-TV's Liam Martin reports.













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 04, 2017, 04:21:41 am
If you're going to use multiple shooters in a false flag as a part of asymmetric warfare over the hearts and minds of your target population, a hotel is the perfect location for such an operation.  The concert a perfect target.

This is talking about The Superbowl and Tampa, FL, --the correlations are completely relevant though because we are talking about the "vulnerabilities" of their own inside job operations:

(2010):
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UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY

(U)  Key Findings

(U//FOUO) At this time, DHS, the FBI, the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM), and the greater Tampa area law enforcement community have no identified, credible terrorist threats to Super Bowl XLIII and associated events or venues. The high-profile nature of the Super Bowl, however, could make it a desirable target for a violent organization or individual seeking to take advantage of the intense media coverage.

(U//FOUO) The placement of explosive devices in heavily trafficked areas is assessed as the most likely mode of terrorist attack. Security breaches facilitated by stolen or counterfeit credentials and insider operatives pose additional threats to stadium security.

(U//FOUO) DHS, the FBI, NCTC, NORTHCOM, and the greater Tampa area law enforcement community lack information indicating a cyber or foreign counterintelligence threat to the Super Bowl.

(U//FOUO) The highly visible security presence at the stadium will be an important deterrent to potential attackers. Prospective attackers may view nearby infrastructure such as hotels and restaurants as more feasible targets; attacks on such facilities would allow terrorists to take advantage of the Super Bowl’s extensive media coverage to promote their agenda.
That document about USNORTHCOM/DHS and the Super Bowl reminded me of this one:

http://info.publicintelligence.net/Threats-to-College-Sports-Entertainment-Facilities.pdf

It's entitled: (U) Threats to College Sports and Entertainment Venues and Surrounding Areas

Here some unintentionally funny excerpts from that report:

Under (U) Lone Wolf threats:
(U//FOUO) In October 2005, a University of Oklahoma student blew himself up
in a park outside the Gaylord Family-Oklahoma Memorial Stadium while a game
was in progress. Authorities found no ties to terrorism, but the incident’s
proximity to the stadium was cause for alarm.


If there were no ties to terrorism, why bother mentioning it in this report?  Over-reaction justifies their budget and over-bloated bureaucracy, that's why.  DHS thrives on failure.

(U//FOUO) A posting on a jihadist message board in February 2006, “How You
Can Kill Thousands of Americans with a Few Hundred Dollars and Three Men,”
advocated targeting U.S. sporting venues and other public facilities during events.
The posting did not describe or imply an imminent attack.


(sarcasm alert:) Birther Truther Tenther posts on a message board how you can kill all six-point-something billion humans on planet earth for free...  you let the Bilderbergers carry out their population reduction agenda!  Oops, I'm gonna get a knock at my door because I posted a comment mentioning "kill" even though I "did not describe or imply an imminent attack." (/sarcasm alert)

(U//FOUO) The use of radio-controlled aircraft also has been discussed as a
possible method for delivering explosives or chemical or biological agents.
The amount of material such aircraft are capable of carrying is small, but the
psychological impact of an overflight visibly spraying even inert liquid could be
considerable. DHS/I&A has no reports indicating that any group is planning such
attacks.


The authors of this report pulled that one out of their rear end... well, not really, because their bosses remote control planes using Ptech software.

(U) International Terrorist Threat
(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A, the SCIIC, and the MIOC lack credible or specific information
indicating current plots aimed at college sports and entertainment venues
but assess that
terrorist organizations such as al-Qa‘ida, its affiliates, and ideologically similar groups
view occupied sports stadiums and arenas as potential targets.


Then spending payroll and resources to type up this report was fruitless.


On a more serious note, (wow I'm such a hardcore nerd if I find humor in government white papers) these reports are to instill total fear in law enforcement and venue security guards.  The DHS are training law enforcement and security guards to look for boogeymen lurking around every corner, and  to label misdemeanors as terrorist acts. The DHS apparatus thrives on failure and over-reaction, and that gives them the modus operandi to stage false flag terror attacks, to gain even more no bid contracts ($) and total control over the commoner's lives (power).

Also, important to note, the "no ties to terrorism" is itself some pretty sick psychological warfare.  It's a form of reverse psychology, being used to reinforce something that in itself is also completely a manufactured paradigm that we know, in reality, does not exist in the context we are told.  It is intended to facilitate "self-enforced programming" by telling the public the exact opposite of what they've been conditioned TO equate with terror solely because of death toll, wounded, earth shattering horror, despair, nightmare-on-steroids level fear.  To say it's not "terror" is intended to actually reinforce the complete fraudulence of the terror paradigm itself, because people will say to themselves "YES IT IS TERROR!".

Older info that has relevance (this is important - you will be able to more readily discern the globalists pathology, propagandistic terms, and other aspects:

(http://www.iacsp.com/Splash2006ia.jpg)
(http://www.tssi-inc.com/images/head.jpg)

Foreign troops in NYC on 9/11??
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=38660.msg168316#msg168316

NWO is freaking out, Mumbai false flag might as well have happened in U.S.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=79821.0

The Terrorist Attacks on Mumbai According to THE VETTED FACTS:
G7 False Flag Mumbai massacre...Official story is TOTAL BS! Hindu Undercover!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=72334.0

The Terrorist Attacks on Mumbai, according to Police State, False Flag lover, traitor to the Constitution and Bill of Rights: Jeffrey K. Beatty (extracted from PDF:)

http://www.tssi-inc.com/pdf/document5_50.pdf

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mBqgM9-hXBo/SLL4tO5CaBI/AAAAAAAACTk/Gbgn6KLoBcY/s400/jeff_beatty.bmp)(http://www.wegoweb.net/images/logos/cia_logo.jpeg)
Mumbai, India.   November 26‐29, 2008
By, Jeffrey K. Beatty
Captain Raymond Brown


About the Authors:

Jeffrey K. Beatty is a special advisor to TSSI President and CEO Don L. Rondeau, and also a member of TSSI’s Critical Infrastructure Protection Strategic Advisory Group (CIPSAG).  He is the founder and former president of TSSI's predecessor organization.  A former Delta Force Assault Troop Commander and Operations Officer, Mr. Beatty later served as an FBI Special Agent and advisor to the National Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) and as a CIA Counter-terrorism Center Case Officer, where he successfully managed anti-terrorism operations in Europe and the Middle East. A renowned anti-terrorism expert, the U.S. Senate sought his testimony regarding transportation security issues, including aviation, following 9/11. Among his many accomplishments, Mr. Beatty authored the Anti-terrorism Action Plans for the American Trucking Association and the American Bus Association.

Captain Raymond Brown is a TSSI Subject Matter Expert (SME) and Master Trainer for TSSI’s Trucking Security Program.  Captain Brown offers specialized maritime and land security experience and possesses unmatched threat vulnerability and assessment and security awareness training experience. A former Chief of Analysis in the U.S. Coast Guard's Intelligence Center and White House military aide, Capt. Brown has developed several highly successful anti-terrorism training programs within the transportation sector, including courses for the American Bus Association, the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority and Logan Airport.

1) Executive Summary

a) What Happened? On 26 Nov 08–29 Nov 08, a Pakistani based militant organization ‐ Lashkar‐e‐Taiba (LeT), possibly with the aid of Indian militants – infiltrated the neighboring country of India by sea and attacked a police station, two hotels, a Jewish center, a hospital, a train station, a cinema and café in the city of Mumbai. The attacks left 179 dead and over 300 wounded. Among the casualties were many foreigners and 14 police officers. Most of the attacks consisted of small arms fire along with the use of grenades and bombs. In at least one case, torture was used by the perpetrators on their victims.

The Attacks had the effect of increasing tension between India and Pakistan. India subsequently moved troops to its border with Pakistan. In response, Pakistan moved significant Military Units to the Indian border and away from the Tribal regions adjacent to Afghanistan. This is an area of high U.S. Interest in the war against the Taliban and the on‐going search for Osama Bin Laden. Ironically, as a possible indicator of increased U.S. Intelligence capability, ABC News reported on December 1, 2008 that the U.S. had previously warned India of possible attacks launched from the sea against hotels and business centers in Mumbai.

Further, the Mumbai attack targeted hotels and train stations, and other critical infrastructure sectors. This was not the first such terrorist attack to do so, and it had much in common with the Beslan Russia School Hostage situation in that it played out for days and received much more media coverage than a single car bomb or even multiple car bombs would. Finally it appears that the attackers were using drugs to stay awake for the long period of the incident which enabled them to maintain security with fewer attackers.

b) Relevance to U.S. Homeland and U.S. Interests Overseas. The same group is believed capable of operations within the United States. This attack showed that U.S. Cities might be partially vulnerable to “Mumbai like” waterborne attacks. However, In terms of the small arms and explosives aspects of the attacks, since the massacre at Columbine High School, many U.S. cities have done at least some training in handling “Active Shooter” incidents. U.S. Cities also generally have well‐trained S.W.A.T. Teams to handle such incidents.

The vulnerable sectors in the U.S. are the hotels and other public locations along with the responsiveness of the State and Local Command Authority to act quickly to resolve the situation. The remedy is to upgrade hotel and other public sector “Immediate Action Plans” and integrate them fully with law enforcement responses as has been done in places like New York and Las Vegas to allow for a much more successful result than in Mumbai:

At TSSI, we believe that a Mumbai‐type exercise should be held in every U.S. city and Immediate Action Plans developed to handle such an operation.   To be accurate, it must be noted that detailed access and “Immediate Action” plans for responders to act in harmony with on‐site security are much more widespread in major U.S. cities than in places like Mumbai. However, the need exists to create those plans where they don’t exist, review the plans that are extant, and exercise the new or existing plans in all cities.


2) Order of Battle
a)   Perpetrators.
i)   Lashkar‐e‐Taiba (LeT).
(1) In Mumbai attack phase ‐ between 10 and 30 young Pakistani men.
(2) In support operations an estimated   10‐to‐30 personnel who were   based in Pakistan and   may have also conducted part of the reconnaissance in Mumbai, possibly with the assistance of Indian citizens.

(3) TSSI ANALYSIS ‐ This type of operation requires significant casing, rehearsal, financing, training and an extensive support network to aid the fighters. The Indian police claim that there were a total of only 10 terrorists. However, witness accounts and confiscation of equipment indicates there could have been up to 25‐to‐30 involved. Nine were confirmed killed and the Indian police captured an individual who they claim to be the sole known remaining survivor, Muhammed Ajmal Amir Kasab, who was arrested during the attacks and has been in custody ever   since. This   claim may be overstated and it is possible several attackers successfully escaped in the fog of battle.

Through questioning, police have been able to paint a better picture of exactly what went on throughout the event, as well as the development of the attack leading up to the 26thof November. Kasab explained there were a total of 30 recruits selected for suicide missions and they were provided with highly specialized training, including Marine combat skills. Once selected by the Lashkar leadership, they were sequestered in a house for three months. They were divided into two‐man teams; each assigned a different target in Mumbai to attack and were forbidden to share the information with one another.

Ten recruits arrived together in Mumbai and, according to Kasab, they never saw the other 20 trainees again.   Each   of the men had aliases, and they knew each other only by those aliases during their training. Each attacker carried a dozen grenades, a 9‐millimeter handgun with two 18‐round clips and an AK‐47 with seven to nine 30‐round magazines and more than 100 rounds of loose ammunition. The recruits were trained to conserve their ammunition, fire in short bursts, and prepare to hold out against security forces for as long as possible. Each terrorist also carried a 17.6 lb bomb; three were recovered and defused, while others exploded during the attacks. Each attacker also had a cell phone to communicate with leadership as well as GPS handsets.

b)  Security Forces.

i)  India has a National Anti‐terrorism Unit but it is located in New Delhi ‐ over 8 hours away. Post‐incident, Indian authorities said they would station Ant‐terrorism units in 4 other cities including Mumbai.

ii)  Mumbai Police. Local Police apparently were not trained, or not willing to conduct aggressive life‐saving operations against what U.S. Police would call “Active Shooters”. Mumbai's Anti‐Terrorism Squad Chief Hemant Karkare, was among those killed by the attackers in an apparent serious tactical error.

3)  Chronological Incident Description
a)  Pre‐Incident
i)   Historical. (Source: Anti Defamation League) Overview. Lashkar‐e‐Taiba (LET), a Pakistani‐based Islamic terrorist organization, seeks to drive out Indian security forces from the disputed Jammu and Kashmir regions of South Asia and establish an Islamic caliphate. Various intelligence services consider LET to be one of the most dangerous Islamic militant groups operating in Kashmir.   Known for its expertise in suicide bombing and conventional assault tactics, LET has carried out many deadly attacks, including a raid on the Indian Parliament in 2002, which killed 14.

Although the organization stopped claiming responsibility for attacks after it was ostensibly banned by Pakistan in 2002, Indian authorities have arrested many LET operatives in connection with attacks in the region. The group was founded in the late 1980’s with the help of the Pakistani government (which also opposes the Indian presence in Kashmir) as the armed wing of the Markaz al‐Dawa wa al‐Irshad, an Islamic social welfare group.   LET, which was also inspired by Osama bin Laden, continues to maintain close ties with Al Qaeda.

Intelligence services have discovered that, before its camps were destroyed by the United States in 2001, Al Qaeda frequently hosted and trained LET operatives. Conversely, since the destruction of those camps, LET has hosted Al Qaeda trainees and other Islamic militants, including Shahzad Tanweer, one of the suicide bombers in the July 7, 2005 London Underground attack, according to British authorities. Additionally, senior Al Qaeda leaders, such as Abu Zubeida have been arrested at LET compounds.

Major Previous Attacks
(1) October 29, 2005: Three coordinated suicide bombs in New Delhi during Hindu festival of Diwali killed at least 63 and wounded over 200.

(2) August 25, 2003:   Double bombing in Bombay (Mumbai) killed 52 and wounded 175.

(3) September 24, 2002: Raid on Akshardam Temple in Gujarat killed 28 Hindu worshippers.

(4) December 13, 2001: Raid on Indian Parliament killed at least 14.

U.S.‐Related Activities

Designated by the U.S. as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

Several American citizens, including members of the so‐called “Virginia Jihad Network,” were convicted of training at LET camps in Kashmir and Pakistan, as well as other related terrorism charges.

LET operatives have reportedly been recruited for planned Al Qaeda attacks on American interests and the organization is believed to have operatives already in the U.S.


b) Incident Specific. It is evident that significant planning, casing and rehearsals went into this operation. This type of coordination requires significant scouting, financing, training and an extensive support network to aid the fighters.   The fighters (at least 1 in each cell) appear to have previously been to each of their assigned targets and were very familiar with the physical layout and procedures at each target location.

c) Active Incident. Nov 26. A ship was seized and the attackers launched from that “mother ship” in small inflatable craft and landed in Mumbai. Once ashore, the attackers moved to the Calaba police station ‐ most likely as a single unit ‐ and attacked. The group then broke into smaller teams and headed for their assigned targets.    At least one police van was hijacked and the terrorists drove around the city firing automatic weapons from the truck at random targets. These included; the train station (Chhatrapati Shivaji), The Café’ Leopold, The Cama Hospital, The Metro Cinema, The Taj Mahal Palace Hotel and the Oberoi Hotel.

Several bombs or grenades were tossed into the lobbies and in other areas of the hotels, and gunmen opened fire indiscriminately in the hotel lobbies, at the café, cinema, train station, and the Chabad‐Lubavitch Jewish Center. Throughout the attacks, the gunmen specifically targeted those with foreign passports, most notably American, British, and Israeli. The attackers also held hostages. This hostage situation proved to be the most difficult for police to handle, especially at the hotels. It was not until over 200 National Security Guards, commandos, and other Naval and Army forces were deployed to Mumbai that the situation was brought under control on November 29.

d) Post Incident. India found evidence of the attack being launched and trained for in Pakistan. As a result, India moved troops to the Pakistani Border. Pakistan responded by repositioning troops from the tribal regions near Afghanistan where they were involved in the hunt for the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden and moved significant troops to oppose Indian Forces along their common border.

5) TSSI’s Assessment of Security Implications and Recommendations

a.  Provide law enforcement personnel with the most up to date blueprints or layouts of your buildings, to include any new construction or remodeling of the structure;

b.  Invite your local police to visit your facility so they have an idea of the layout;

c.  Train your personnel to be observant of suspicious activity, which may include surveillance, stolen uniforms or badges, vehicles, or any other unusual, out of the ordinary event which makes you think.

d.  Review your facilities constantly to determine if additional steps can be taken to improve physical security.

e.  Make sure you have crisis and “Immediate Action” plans in place in the event of an emergency at your facility;

f.   If you have such plans, please provide them to local law enforcement, to include the local JTTF, and walk through or exercise them with local law enforcement.


g.  Ensure your personnel know to call 911 in the event of an emergency.

h.  Always be vigilant to an unusual event and report them to local law enforcement and to the Transportation Security Operations Center Surface Watch at 703‐563‐3263.

[INSERT: Vigilant against what?  Non-existent terror threats to keep people in a perpetual state of fear and concern?  Vigilant just like the criminal CACI, hey you scumbag pieces of trash?]
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6)   Intelligence Implications and Recommendations
•    Intelligence Operations that discern capabilities and intentions of adversary groups must be first rate.
•    The best “intelligence” is often that which you develop yourself. For example, The World Trade Center detected casing and surveillance activity prior to 9‐11. The Pentagon also detected casing and surveillance activity prior to 9‐11. The information gleaned from security forces and employees at potential target sites must be respected, collected, analyzed and disseminated for action. Programs such as the “First Observer™” program that TSSI supports on behalf of DHS‐TSA allow for exactly that type of intelligence collection.

7) Public Policy Implications and Recommendations

•    The Public has to be part of Public Safety. In an effort to interdict Terrorist Operations before attacks are pressed home, programs that train employees at potential terrorist target sites to be alert for possible casing, surveillance and other pre‐cursor terrorist operations are very valuable. These People must be encourage to Observe, Assess and Report ANY suspicious activity.

•    The public must also be attuned to threats they might observe in public places. Unattended packages, unattended large vehicles, and the like are things that the public should report if they seem the least bit suspicious or are in a location where, if they were in fact concealed weapons, they could do great danger.

•    In the event of an actual attack, employees must know what is expected of them in an appropriate Immediate Action Drill. These drills must be trained to. The recent emergency landing of an US Airways jet on the Hudson River, resulting in all 155 persons on board surviving, is an example of employees and the public who understood there was a drill to be followed and followed it. [INSERT: WTF?]

•    Immediate Actions Drills for unarmed Employees and the Public should include but not be limited to: Evacuation, Shelter in Place, Assembly and Accountability.

References

a)   http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/terror/R40087.pdf[/quote]

Elite warn of more inside job white Al-Qaeda patsies if we defend Constitution

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http://homelandsecuritynewswire.com/terror-threat-us-more-complex-diverse-and-difficult-detect

9/11: nine years onTerror threat to U.S. more complex, diverse, and difficult to detect

Published 13 September 2010

A new report by the commissioners of the 9/11 Commission says that terrorism is increasingly taking on an American cast, reflected in the growth of homegrown threats and the movement of terrorists recruited from the United States to areas like the horn of Africa and Yemen; the report concludes that some of the most-feared types of attacks -- such as those using nuclear or biological weapons -- are now less likely, while smaller, more diffuse -- and, hence, more difficult to detect -- attacks are more likely; of particular worry: no agency in the U.S. government is charged with monitoring and stopping the radicalization and recruitment of Americans to terrorist ranks

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Smaller, lower profile attacks may become the norm[/i] // Source: typepad.com

The terrorist threat the United States is facing nine years after the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington is far more difficult to detect but less likely to produce mass-casualty attacks, according to the former leaders of the 9/11 Commission.

A report by the former commissioners, titled “Assessing the Terrorist Threat,” (http://www.bipartisanpolicy.org/news/press-releases/2010/09/bipartisan-policy-center-report-finds-homegrown-terrorism-presents-key-c) was released Friday. It finds terrorism is increasingly taking on an American cast, reflected in the growth of homegrown threats and the movement of terrorists recruited from the United States to areas like the horn of Africa and Yemen.

The report concludes some of the most-feared types of attacks are now unlikely, such as those using nuclear or biological weapons, or attacks on malls and shopping centers in less-populated cities. Despite al Qaeda’s long-running interest in mass-casualty weapons, it has not shown the capacity to mount attacks with them, the report says.

Siobhan Gorman quotes the report to say that the U.S. government is ill-equipped to counter the newest version of the terrorist threat. The report adds that “American overreactions,” particularly on Capitol Hill and in the media, even to unsuccessful attacks, have arguably played into terrorists’ hands and fuel anti-American sentiment.

“It’s a much more complex and a much more diverse threat than it was” in 2001, former 9/11 Commission Vice Chairman Lee Hamilton told Gorman in an interview. “We lag behind still in developing responses to this threat.”

No agency in the U.S. government, for example, is charged with monitoring and stopping the radicalization and recruitment of Americans to terrorist ranks, he said. “The White House is addressing this challenge through a process that attempts to leverage all the tools the government has to offer,” said spokesman Tommy Vietor.

The report was written by terrorism analysts Peter Bergen and Bruce Hoffman for the national security group of the Bipartisan Policy Center, a Washington think tank. The security group is led by former 9/11 Commission Chairman Tom Kean and Hamilton.

Gorman notes that the study tracks with recent assessments from the director of national intelligence and the Central Intelligence Agency highlighting the increasing reliance of al Qaeda and affiliates on people who can easily and legally enter and travel in the United States to plot and mount attacks.

Officials at intelligence agencies and DHS zeroed in on the homegrown threat following a series of attacks and botched plots, including the Fort Hood, Texas, shootings and the attempted Times Square bombing.

Last year, there were ten U.S.-linked jihadi attacks, plots, or incidents involving individuals traveling outside the country to receive terrorist training, the report found. Meanwhile, at least forty-three American citizens or legal residents aligned with militant groups were charged or convicted in terrorism cases in the U.S. and elsewhere in 2009.

“We are seeing more Americans turning on their country, going abroad and making common cause with terrorist groups,” said Bruce Hoffman, one of the report’s authors. “The array of perpetrators and the nature of their plots against America are remarkable and there is no single government agency responsible for deterring radicalization and terrorist recruitment. The terrorists may have found our Achilles heel – we have no way of dealing with this growing problem.”

The report also identifies more and less likely targets and means of attack. More likely targets include commercial aviation, Western brand names like American hotel chains, Jewish targets, and U.S. soldiers fighting in Muslim countries. Potential tactics include suicide operations, attacks by gunmen in the model of the 2008 assault on Mumbai, India, and assassinations of key leaders.

The group hopes its findings will encourage the U.S. government to focus more of its limited resources on the most likely attack scenarios. “It’s very hard to get the government to establish priorities,” Hamilton said.

As public attention in recent years has turned to the global economic crisis, the report says, attempted terror attacks have climbed. “The polls say Americans are turning their attention away from the terrorist threat,” Hamilton said. “This report says they better not.”



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 04:27:20 am
We have yet to see any amount of blood or bloodied individuals. There are only two photos with blood and both have very little.

Where are the 59 chalk outlines?



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After 9/11 they disposed of the evidence . . .
Are they doing the same in Vegas ?

I mention it as it's another way of identifying the true perpetrator's



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 05:17:27 am

The vulnerable sectors in the U.S. are the hotels and other public locations along with the responsiveness of the State and Local Command Authority to act quickly to resolve the situation. The remedy is to upgrade hotel and other public sector “Immediate Action Plans” and integrate them fully with law enforcement responses as has been done in places like New York and Las Vegas to allow for a much more successful result than in Mumbai:


72 minutes ?
That is the fully integrated response time ?
During 9/11 the response was sabotaged, is that what really happened in the Mandalay Bay Shooting ?

Am I supposed to believe that anyone can set up a machine gun center city, gun down 500+ people - and the police will not turn up for at least an hour !!
Like how dumb do they think we are ?
Effie has proven that for about a decade, the response is fully integrated, contingency plans have been in place for years....

As I pointed out earlier, nothing happens in that mob security is not aware of, so the 72 minute response time is completely unbelievable



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 06:09:43 am
Not watched all of it, and its a bit long to post on this thread, but my initial impression was that its a decent discussion.

Las Vegas Shooting Strange Facts & Inconsistencies - Jay Dyer
http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2301.0



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Eerie Predictions in Vegas... Cui Bono? ( TruthStream Media )
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 06:12:52 am
Eerie Predictions in Vegas... Cui Bono?

Truthstream Media
Published on Oct 4, 2017













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Shooters 1st preference was an audiance of Rap Fans, not Country
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 07:08:35 am
While Trump extremist Alex Jones attempts to manipulate the shooting into AntiFa / ISIS terrorist act . . .
Awkward facts continue to debunk the CIA mouthpiece, as it turns out the first choice of the Mandalay Shooter(s) was an audience of Rap Fans and a predominately Progressive Liberal demographic.

Las Vegas Gunman May Have First Planned to Attack Chance the Rapper and Lorde Concert
https://www.thedailybeast.com/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-may-have-first-planned-to-attack-chance-the-rapper-and-lorde-concert

Stephen Paddock rented condos overlooking the ‘Life Is Beautiful’ festival last month, a senior law enforcement source tells The Daily Beast.
Michael Daly
Justin Glawe
10.03.17 2:50 PM ET

LAS VEGAS—The gunman who murdered at least 59 people at a country-music concert on Sunday might have originally targeted another Las Vegas music festival held the previous weekend, according to a senior law enforcement source.

Stephen Paddock rented multiple condos overlooking the annual Life Is Beautiful Festival, which this year was headlined by Lorde and Chance the Rapper, said the source, who is not directly involved in the investigation but has been briefed on its progress.

In an effort to confirm the report, The Daily Beast visited the Ogden, a 21-story luxury condominium tower with a line of sight to the concert-grounds.

“We're not in a position to confirm or deny anything about Mr. Paddock's dealings. I suggest you contact Metro [police]. As you know this is an on going investigation,” said Melissa Warren, public affairs officer for Fais Foley Warren, owner of the Ogden.

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The source suggested that Paddock may have lost his nerve or simply changed his plans and checked into the Mandalay Bay Hotel on September 28. He then took a suite overlooking the Route 91 Harvest Festival and opened fire on an estimated 20,000 concertgoers below. Law enforcement recovered 23 weapons from the suite, including several rifles capable of automatic fire. Paddock concealed the arsenal in 10 suitcases, Joseph Lombardo, the sheriff of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department told reporters.

Law enforcement discovered at least 19 firearms, thousands of rounds of ammunition, and an explosive at his home in Mesquite, Nevada. The bomb-making chemical ammonium nitrate was also found in his car, police said.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Eerie Predictions in Vegas... Cui Bono? ( TruthStream Media )
Post by: Satyagraha on Oct 04, 2017, 07:27:50 am
Eerie Predictions in Vegas... Cui Bono?

Truthstream Media
Published on Oct 4, 2017


Great dot connecting by Aaron & Melissa ... the solution for the latest problem/reaction drama will of course be an increase —� the ever-tightening panopticon surrounds us. Give people shock and awe, and they become frightened children, willing to give up privacy (watch for body scanners in hotels, and other public gathering places... money to be made by Chertoff et al). There are so many holes in this ‘official story’ it’s ridiculous.

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Title: Re: Las Vegas - daft claims 4th floor videos are hoaxes
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 07:28:51 am
Beware the narrative that the 4th floor video is a hoax, this rumour is being spread by Alex Jones listeners and other Far Right extremists.

The claim is its a strobe light, the reasoning is that the team of shooters could not replace or move a sheet of glass.
Epic.

They had to put the windows in, so i'm sure must be a way take them out. For replacement and maintenance.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - No chance of a public trail for the patsy
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 08:04:40 am
No chance of a public trail for the patsy

Graphic Photo of the Dead Oswald Patsy in the book depository here https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=38b_1507044572

(https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2017/Oct/3/LiveLeak-dot-com-38b_1507044572-StephenPaddock_1507044617.jpg.resized.jpg)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 08:23:45 am
RAW VIDEO - New footage of the Las Vegas Shooting from Concert Floor













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - another video showing the 4th Floor shooter
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 08:38:41 am
Yet another video showing the 4th floor shooter(s) . . .

Different angle.




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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Eerie Predictions in Vegas... Cui Bono? ( TruthStream Media )
Post by: Q on Oct 04, 2017, 10:24:07 am
Eerie Predictions in Vegas... Cui Bono?

Truthstream Media
Published on Oct 4, 2017



Great points from Truthstream. I agree that we could speculate about the bizarre inconsistencies all day every day and still be none the wiser, and I made a similar point earlier, but the important question is to look at the motives. They make a very good case for at least one of the motives - enhanced security at hotels which would spread to other public buildings and areas, and the apparently prescient thread at 4chan is very interesting.

4chan thread is here: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/141096258/#141108695_67



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 04, 2017, 10:30:42 am
Yea I'm stating to wonder about the muzzle flash directly below where the smashed windows are (4th floor) It doesn't really seem to match up with the gunfire sound in the cabby video which was nearby and not hundreds of yards away. Regardless, the audio at the start does prove there was more than one shooter.



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I think it would be difficult to discern the direction or distance of the firing position even when on the scene, much less from the video audio, particularly when attempting to compare one video with another.

I agree that it sounds like 2 weapons firing at one point, and at another stage it sounds like something belt fed.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - daft claims 4th floor videos are hoaxes
Post by: Q on Oct 04, 2017, 10:57:21 am
Beware the narrative that the 4th floor video is a hoax, this rumour is being spread by Alex Jones listeners and other Far Right extremists.

The claim is its a strobe light, the reasoning is that the team of shooters could not replace or move a sheet of glass.
Epic.

They had to put the windows in, so i'm sure must be a way take them out. For replacement and maintenance.



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I don't know about the Alex Jones listeners or far right extremists (lol) but here is my take on the 4th floor muzzle flash storyline:

It's not that easy to replace the glass. I asked an architect about this, and these types of windows are replaced from the outside, usually from a platform, which would be kinda conspicuous. To replace from the inside, major structural work would probably be required, over several floors, as the frames are part of the building outer structure.

Additionally, the following is a video taken about an hour or so before the shooting started, and shows the same flashing light alleged to be muzzle flash:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZwofXcgzh9/

Also from this article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/frantic-switchboard-calls-geometry-of-fire-led-police-to-killer-on-mandalay-bays-32nd-floor/2017/10/03/e29857ca-a87b-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.1277d6b323d3

Outside the hotel entrance, Las Vegas Metropolitan Police officers were pinned down along South Las Vegas Boulevard, searching for the origin of what they knew was a barrage of gunshots. Someone had been firing into a crowd of country music fans at a venue across the street. Muzzle flashes had been visible halfway up the hotel’s north tower — a clue that then disappeared.

Haven’t seen any flashes,” an officer said over the radio at 10:22 p.m. Sunday. “There is a strobe light from one of those windows.”


Audio of the above (at 14:02)











The balance of evidence currently points to the 'flashes' being a strobe or other sort of flashing light..



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 11:25:45 am
Bottom line, its a piece of glass . . . .

Several possibilities spring to mind.

First off, they have windows that look like they don't open but in fact can be opened - often with a specialist key, and the reason is maintenance access.
Its exactly the sort of thing architects don't think about :)

Me, I would not smash a window sending a shower glass alerting security and a dozen onlookers waiting for taxis, dealers and johns...
Instead I would use a glass cutter, and cut a neat hole.
Lastly, since I was brought up by a real scientist, I'd put the bit I cut out back when I'd finished.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - "crisis actors" - try looking on LiveLeak
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 11:45:33 am
As to those screaming "crisis actors", they should try looking on LiveLeak




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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Shooters 1st preference was an audiance of Rap Fans, not Country
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 11:53:47 am
CLICKBAIT INFOWARTS

This has already been debunked, that does not stop infowars editor at large from posting this work of fiction.


Colonel Shaffer: Gunman Deliberately Targeted Country Music Concert to Kill Trump Supporters
Massacre was a “deliberate act of terror,” says CIA-trained intelligence expert
Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars.com - October 4, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/colonel-shaffer-gunman-deliberately-targeted-country-music-concert-to-kill-trump-supporters/

While Trump extremist Alex Jones attempts to manipulate the shooting into AntiFa / ISIS terrorist act . . .
Awkward facts continue to debunk the CIA mouthpiece, as it turns out the first choice of the Mandalay Shooter(s) was an audience of Rap Fans and a predominately Progressive Liberal demographic.


Debunked Here :

Las Vegas Gunman May Have First Planned to Attack Chance the Rapper and Lorde Concert
https://www.thedailybeast.com/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-may-have-first-planned-to-attack-chance-the-rapper-and-lorde-concert

Stephen Paddock rented condos overlooking the ‘Life Is Beautiful’ festival last month, a senior law enforcement source tells The Daily Beast.
Michael Daly
Justin Glawe
10.03.17 2:50 PM ET

LAS VEGAS—The gunman who murdered at least 59 people at a country-music concert on Sunday might have originally targeted another Las Vegas music festival held the previous weekend, according to a senior law enforcement source.

Stephen Paddock rented multiple condos overlooking the annual Life Is Beautiful Festival, which this year was headlined by Lorde and Chance the Rapper, said the source, who is not directly involved in the investigation but has been briefed on its progress.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Las Vegas and the Bigger Picture, Who benefits? - (Titus Frost)
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 12:12:53 pm
Las Vegas and the Bigger Picture, Who benefits?

Titus Frost
Published on Oct 4, 2017


In this video I am discussing the obvious False Flag Operation that took place in Las Vegas, to scare the public into accepting an increasing New World Order Police State and to demonize the 2nd Amendment.

Who benefits from all this? The New World Order, and people like Soros and Sheldon Adelson. The manufacturers of metal detectors and screening equipment (Adelson owns a company that makes this type of equipment for the hotel this took place in).

No way a single shooter shot 59 people with no military training from a distance and injured some 250 more. That would be what is called physically impossible. Never mind the fact he was in a highly secure hotel with surveillance cameras everywhere. Never mind the fact that there is video online of shooters firing from multiple locations at the same time. How is there video online of a shooter clearly firing from like the fourth floor, if the shooters was on the 32nd story supposedly? Why is there a bunch of broken windows on the lower floors? Why can I hear audio of obviously multiple shooting locations? Who was the second shooter? Why is the media ignoring the basic facts of this incident?

Never mind the crumbling back story of the alleged shooter who supposedly only owned a few hand guns. Somehow a few handguns he never fired regularly, turned into an arsenal of automatic weapons and the traning to use them from a distance at a considerable height to hit and kill 59 targets (which has never been done by any combat veteran EVER!!!!!!). This is complete nonsense, either the numbers are way off, or more likely there was multiple shooters and they were well trained operatives.

Links to review:

1. OSI Systems & Sheldon Adelson: https://twitter.com/SkugWirez/status/...
2. Unedited Video of Multiple Guns Being Fired: https://youtu.be/iUU0BFNM3aQ
3. Photo Of Lower Windows Open: https://youtu.be/846tFjBt-bI
4. Zionist Connection of Las Vegas Shooting by @TyrannyUnmasked: https://youtu.be/ASIIlrFPF1Q
5. All About Trauma for Your Mind by @FaceLikeTheSun: https://youtu.be/DShaSQuI5FU
6. Scripted Audio of Cops Entering The Room: https://youtu.be/CJHdaxmmdeI
7. Proof the Media are Lying About Las Vegas by @SGTReport: https://steemit.com/vegas/@sgtreport/...
8. Photo of "Stephen Paddock": https://twitter.com/CCCINNC/status/91...
9. Gunfire from lower floor: https://twitter.com/IWillRedPillYou/s...
10. High Incident Project thanks to "Black Cube Mystery": https://twitter.com/SkugWirez/status/...
11. Did US Government Orchestrate the Las Vegas Incident by "Randy Rocket Cody": https://twitter.com/TheMetalDen/statu...
12. Vegas Taxi Driver video showing 2nd shooter: https://youtu.be/fEf7HObspB0
13. Video proving Vegas was a false flag, has been removed by youtube for "bullying": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=475_H...

Plenty more links to research! Do your homework People! I am putting together a film on all this. Please submit your research links on the STEEMIT blog post for this video below.

Full Show Notes On Steemit: (Link Coming Soon)













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 04, 2017, 12:22:22 pm
Bottom line, its a piece of glass . . . .

Several possibilities spring to mind.

First off, they have windows that look like they don't open but in fact can be opened - often with a specialist key, and the reason is maintenance access.
Its exactly the sort of thing architects don't think about :)

Me, I would not smash a window sending a shower glass alerting security and a dozen onlookers waiting for taxis, dealers and johns...
Instead I would use a glass cutter, and cut a neat hole.
Lastly, since I was brought up by a real scientist, I'd put the bit I cut out back when I'd finished.



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I assume you mean one of these?  :)

https://goo.gl/images/EjXDiU

However..although it's of academic interest only at this point, I have thought of a way the window could be temporarily opened. Assuming that the fixings are accessible from the inside, some suction pads could be placed on the inside of the window to be opened, and also on the adjacent window, and the 2 sets of pads connected by a hinge. Then the fixings can be undone and the window pane can be swung open (outward) on the hinge..



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 12:38:07 pm


I assume you mean one of these?  :)

https://goo.gl/images/EjXDiU

However..although it's of academic interest only at this point, I can think of a way the window could be temporarily opened. Assuming that the fixings are accessible from the inside, some suction pads could be put on the inside of the window to be opened, and also on the adjacent window, and the 2 sets of pads connected by a hinge. Then the fixings can be undone and the window pane can be swung open on the hinge..



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I am not surprised that it takes you seconds to think of another equally elegant solution to the Glass Problem, but that opens a more interesting conversation. The authorities narrative states that the Patsy had the smarts to smuggle in all that ammo, up to 43 assault rifles, cameras to protect him from the hallway... and yet he uses a hammer. Like, think about it.... Standing in a Hotel in Vegas, the place is internationally notorious for casinos security and he takes out the window with a hammer... sending a shower of glass down - its so dumb that I ain't buying it.

The other thing is, anyone remember Trump is in the Mafia Controlled Casino Biz ?
:)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Infowars - Antifa are trainning with ISIS in Syria to get Trump
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 12:59:02 pm
Members of Antifa are preparing for war by training in #Syria - and the #vegasshooting suspect was found with Antifa literature.

https://twitter.com/KitDaniels1776/status/915591616014020608










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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: TheJudge on Oct 04, 2017, 01:17:44 pm
Wow.....Alex and crew on fire today...now this mass shooting was an arms deal gone bad...lol...omg.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 02:30:13 pm
Wow.....Alex and crew on fire today...now this mass shooting was an arms deal gone bad...lol...omg.



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Wow
Its actually hard to comment !

The hubris coming out of that man, leads me to suspect his 'new wife' ( also called his handler ) is putting cocaine in his breakfast cereal.

Speaking of infowars, one thing I noticed about Watson is his eyes . . . like he looks like he takes either to much poisonous infowars snake oil, or the shy nervous Watson that first was forced to take the mic found a chemical solution for his problems. Once you noticed Watson's eyes, you'll wonder why nobody comments. Really, I know everyone gets sucked into his rants, but hit the mute button and just look at his eyeballs.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - P.J.Watson Vid : "Strange Things About the Las Vegas Massacre"
Post by: Larry on Oct 04, 2017, 03:44:43 pm
Views Contained In the Following Video Do Not Necessarily Reflect The Views of Anyone Vaguely Sane or Literate

Re: Las Vegas - P.J.Watson Vid : "Strange Things About the Las Vegas Massacre"













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 04, 2017, 04:04:36 pm
Linked article has a timeline of shooting.  Whether it is accurate or not, I am not sure but it is a starting point.
_____________________________ ________________

This timeline shows exactly how the Las Vegas massacre unfolded

https://businessinsider.com/timeline-shows-exactly-how-the-las-vegas-massacre-unfolded-2017-10?r=UK&IR=T/#1021-pm-still-taking-fire-7

Timeline of Shooting

Sunday, 9:40 p.m.: Route 91 Harvest festival begins its closing act.

10:08 p.m.: Paddock opens fire.

10:13 p.m.: Police realise where the shots are coming from.

10:16 p.m.: News hits social media.

10:19 p.m.: Paddock stops shooting.

10:20 - 10:24 p.m.: Paddock shoots a hotel security guard.

10:24 p.m.: Police officers gather near Paddock's room.

10:25 p.m.: The police issue active-shooter alert locally.

Approximately 10:30 p.m.: Officers on the scene order passersby to take cover.

10:38 p.m.: The police publicly confirm active shooter.

10:40 p.m.: Police wait for back-up.

11:20 p.m.: SWAT teams break into Paddock's room and find him dead.



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11:58 p.m.: The police confirm that the gunman is "down."

Monday, 12:31 a.m.: Incident declared over.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 04, 2017, 04:31:10 pm
I'm listening to Michael Savage. He just had someone on who claimed to be a survivor claiming that there was at least one shooter on the ground. She said a woman near her was shot directly in the stomach while their right shoulders were pointing towards Mandalay Bay, meaning they were facing south towards the airport maybe.

Let's not forget about the airport being right there. In the confusion, an escape via the airport would be easy as pie. I've heard the perimeter fence was breached by the panicked crowd.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - We Are Change - The Facts So Far - Jason Bermas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 04, 2017, 05:48:26 pm
Las Vegas Shooting. The Facts So Far

WeAreChange
Published on Oct 4, 2017
In this video, Jason Bermas breaks down the various evidence that has been presented to the public regarding the horrific events in Las Vegas.

Visit our MAIN SITE for more breaking news http://wearechange.org/













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - P.J.Watson Vid : "Strange Things About the Las Vegas Massacre"
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 04, 2017, 06:22:38 pm
Views Contained In the Following Video Do Not Necessarily Reflect The Views of Anyone Vaguely Sane or Literate

Infowars coverage is all over the spectrum e and I can't help but suspect that is deliberate.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 04, 2017, 06:23:32 pm
Removing / restoring high rise glass widows in a 'modern' hotel is NOT as hard as some here want you to believe.

Outside window removal Chicago.










Older buildings having 'interlocking' window systems and require removal of frame 'outside' of window.

Newer or refurbished buildings (like MGM in Vegas) do NOT have an interlocking window system and are "by design" to be replaced individually from both the inside and out for greater safety, efficiency and cost.

Crew's replace glass high rise widow Sydney from both the INSIDE and out









Crews on the inside can easily handle the glass window,

... and we're not even talking about 'replacing' the glass with regards to this type of operation.  The glass just needs to be moved about a foot (.30m) upward.  The operation wouldn't even need a 'crew' to handle the window itself.

All that would be required to 'free' and restore windows at MGM for a clandestine multi shooter 'go live' (Operation Gladio B) is to have the outside fasteners removed in the selected rooms during a routine window wash while securing them (for removal) on the inside.   There is even commercial equipment (a (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtLlqhD8VOI)), (b (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVWdTe5Z0AQ)) light enough to bring into a room that will 'hold the window in place.  About a foot of space at bottom of the window frame is all that would be needed just enough to get the barrel out with room to maneuver weapon.   When the police show up simply move the window 1 foot back into place.

NEXT..
Wait for window repair crew to refasten window on the outside.  Yes, hard for US joe everyday people, but NOT HARD AT ALL for a well financed, organized and connected group of actors to pull off.

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There is no doubt in my mind and other peoples minds that an M-60 machine gun was used (at the beginning) in this gladio / Northwoods operation in Vegas.  However in order for that gun to be efficient it would have to have been used on lower floors.  It would not handle well nor is it designed to be shot from a steep angle.  (30+ floor or rooftop.)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 04, 2017, 06:24:44 pm
I am not surprised that it takes you seconds to think of another equally elegant solution to the Glass Problem, but that opens a more interesting conversation. The authorities narrative states that the Patsy had the smarts to smuggle in all that ammo, up to 43 assault rifles, cameras to protect him from the hallway... and yet he uses a hammer. Like, think about it.... Standing in a Hotel in Vegas, the place is internationally notorious for casinos security and he takes out the window with a hammer... sending a shower of glass down - its so dumb that I ain't buying it.

The other thing is, anyone remember Trump is in the Mafia Controlled Casino Biz ?
:)



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If he was intent on firing 1000s of rounds out of the window, it seems to me that getting rid of the window in a stealthy and ingenious way would be a bit odd..



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 04, 2017, 06:57:49 pm
Removing / restoring high rise glass widows in a 'modern' hotel is NOT as hard as some here want you to believe.


I've already solved the glass problem, back on post #146..

However I also pointed out that it is academic in the current context since the observed flashes are not muzzle flash as they can be clearly seen an hour or so before the shooting starts, and police officers on the ground identified it as a strobe light.

Now, could there have been a firing point other than from the broken windows? Of course. There are also reports of people being shot in the front while facing away from the Mandalay Bay hotel, so if there was another position then it may have been from a different location.

However I don't see the desperate need for another location. Regardless of how it went down, and who was involved, the outcome we saw could have easily been accomplished from those windows.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 04, 2017, 07:17:39 pm
Proof that a M240 Machine Gun used in Las Vegas Shooting @ Mandalay Bay?













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - LMAO most ridiculous press confrence ever
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 04, 2017, 07:18:32 pm
The presser in Las Vegas live right now is so completely ridiculous I had to walk away. I've never heard such obvious BULLSHIT in my life.

He's saying NONE of the cameras were recording. The food cart was loaded with obvious cameras. Absolutely ridiculous claims like this. WHAT IN THE HELL IS THIS?!



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - LMAO most ridiculous press confrence ever
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 04, 2017, 07:44:50 pm
The presser in Las Vegas live right now is so completely ridiculous I had to walk away. I've never heard such obvious BULLSHIT in my life.

He's saying NONE of the cameras were recording. The food cart was loaded with obvious cameras. Absolutely ridiculous claims like this. WHAT IN THE HELL IS THIS?!



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Was he talking about none of the cameras in the hotel working or the cameras that FBI took from hotel room that Paddock supposedly set up?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - LMAO most ridiculous press confrence ever
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 04, 2017, 07:49:48 pm
Was he talking about none of the cameras in the hotel working or the cameras that FBI took from hotel room that Paddock supposedly set up?



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He said the cart we've all seen was overloaded with cameras and all of the shooter's cameras weren't recording. He might've been extending that to the hotel cameras, I'm not sure.

Just got reminded about this too. He started with talking about returning property to victims and survivors. And then that the guy DID rent that room through Air BnB in the other hotel the other weekend and POSSIBLY wanted to shoot up that concert.

Also said nothing was written on the notepad.

Literally the most bizarre and ridiculous press conferences I've ever seen. Nothing was said, but lies, conjecture, and irrelevance.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 04, 2017, 08:11:15 pm



https://nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/politics/bump-stock-fire-legal-republicans-congress.html

Republicans Open to Banning ‘Bump Stocks’ Used in Massacre


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At a hastily convened news conference, Ms. Feinstein said the Las Vegas massacre, which left 58 people dead and about 500 injured at a country music festival Sunday night, had hit home with her.  Her daughter had planned to attend the concert but decided against going at the last minute.

Ms. Feinstein, who has spent years shepherding gun safety legislation — almost always unsuccessfully — said she introduced the measure on the advice of Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, who reasoned that by offering a narrowly tailored provision, she might get Republican support.

But Senator Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat, tried to force the issue, introducing legislation, backed by about two dozen Democrats, that would ban bump stocks.

Ms. Feinstein cautioned that bipartisan support for such narrow legislation would hardly constitute a sea change. She tried to ban bump stocks in 2013, but that was part of broader legislation to renew the assault weapons ban, which went nowhere.

“I mean, if not this, what?” she asked. “It doesn’t take a weapon away. It just means you can’t convert it into something it’s not meant to be.”

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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 04, 2017, 08:19:50 pm
I've already solved the glass problem, back on post #146..

However I also pointed out that it is academic in the current context since the observed flashes are not muzzle flash as they can be clearly seen an hour or so before the shooting starts, and police officers on the ground identified it as a strobe light.

Now, could there have been a firing point other than from the broken windows? Of course. There are also reports of people being shot in the front while facing away from the Mandalay Bay hotel, so if there was another position then it may have been from a different location.

However I don't see the desperate need for another location. Regardless of how it went down, and who was involved, the outcome we saw could have easily been accomplished from those windows.



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You haven't "solved" anything.   ::)

Nothing to see here?  Yeah, right.  ... and do I trust the police (at the top)?  NO.
I agree with your 'speculation' that the flashing light is 'most likely' a strobe.   Not a reflection as some believed.  However, questions need to be asked about that as well.  #1 Why a directional strobe light (like a flash light) pointing out?  How many hotel room windows have strobes in them?  I've seen hotel room windows for over 50 years and don't recall seeing strobes in them once. Out of dumb luck? this 'strobe' cycles it's flash AND EVEN PAUSES!! at the very same rate as the gunfire.  Everyone knows this and hears and sees it.  What's the Vegas odds on that?

I believe the odd strobe light was planted as a decoy while the shooting was in progress, and to later be used by people like you to 'dismiss' multiple shooters (shooters from lower floors.)

What a simple strobe light does not explain away is why so many people including well trained police regulars (who were the first to arrive)  reported seeing shots coming from the middle of the the hotel.  Before you use the meme which was immediately put out about "confusion", which was true when the gun fire first started...  Once everyone was pinned down everyone that was pinned down knew exactly where the gun was being fired.  There is tons of video posted of people (from the concert) pointing to the hotel (as gunfire is ringing) saying they can see where the shooter(s) are shooting from.   No confusion what-so-ever.

Not only do you have the crowd and first responders reporting multiple shooters (middle of building) you had people at the hotel reporting multiple shooters.

Looking back it, seems clear that there was absolutely NO confusion as to multiple shooters since so many people had no problem identifying them.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 04, 2017, 08:59:09 pm
the outcome we saw could have easily been accomplished from those windows..






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Not if you are making this claim from the information given by police about the 'make shift weapons' this guy was 'purported' to use.  Here is why and I concur with the analysis...

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“There is NO WAY in hell that this inexperienced guy was able to hit 500+ people, at a down sloping range of approximately 250-350 yards using a make-shift weapon modified to shot automatically. Here are some reasons why and you can check with other experts to verify my points.”

“1. It was dark and no matter how well lit, there are many shadows to hide in.

2. Simple a ‘sear’ (pronounced see-er) modification would have only permitted one entire magazine to shoot all at once with no select fire (being able to start and stop).

3. There are some devices (like AutoGlove and Bump Fire) that can simulate full automatic fire, but they cannot be used accurately or effectively.

4. Even if the shooter was able to somehow obtain a full normal functioning automatic rifle, anyone with military experience can tell you that the rifles are difficult to control when firing more than 3 round bursts – especially a .308 or AK47 type. This is because the rifle will uncontrollably rise if automatic fire is constant.

5. After the first 15 or so seconds, the crowd scattered and took cover.

6. I don’t have a count of how many pieces of empty brass (fired rounds) they have recovered, but knowing how many shots were fired compared to how many people were hit will tell you the hit ratio. If this guy did this in 20 seconds, we needed him desperately in Afghanistan!

7. To fire 500 aimed shoots and swap out magazines would have taken him about 15-20 minutes, and there is no way that each shot would have hit someone – more than likely would have missed.”

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/more-than-one-vegas-shooter-the-evidence-builds/



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 04, 2017, 09:23:53 pm
You haven't "solved" anything.   ::)

LOL

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Nothing to see here?  Yeah, right.  ... and do I trust the police (at the top)?  NO.
I agree with your 'speculation' that the flashing light is 'most likely' a strobe.   Not a reflection as some believed.  However, questions need to be asked about that as well.  #1 Why a directional strobe light (like a flash light) pointing out?  How many hotel room windows have strobes in them?  I've seen hotel room windows for over 50 years and don't recall seeing strobes in them once. Out of dumb luck? this 'strobe' cycles it's flash AND EVEN PAUSES!! at the very same rate as the gunfire.  Everyone knows this and hears and sees it.  What's the Vegas odds on that?

I don't know whether strobe lights in Vegas hotel rooms are unusual or not, but the police officers, who identified the strobe on the scanner audio, didn't seem to find it strange or unusual.

I'm not convinced that the strobe does actually pause. If you look at the video, it seems to 'pause', or rather become erratic, when there is increased pixelation in that area.

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I believe the odd strobe light was planted as a decoy while the shooting was in progress, and to later be used by people like you to 'dismiss' multiple shooters (shooters from lower floors.)

No, I have not dismissed the possibility of multiple shooters at any time. You do seem to have a talent for low grade and poorly executed straw men.

However, if the strobe was placed as a decoy then it could have been to distract from the firing positions on the 32nd floor.

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Once everyone was pinned down everyone that was pinned down knew exactly where the gun was being fired.  .

That is ridiculous. Provide us a source for that. Almost by definition, persons in that scenario who are pinned down would know the direction of fire but not much more than that, certainly not exactly where it came from, which is absurd, and is not borne out by any video I have seen.

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There is tons of video posted of people (from the concert) pointing to the hotel (as gunfire is ringing) saying they can see where the shooter(s) are shooting from.   No confusion what-so-ever.

That's hilarious. No confusion? Have you ever been under fire? Confusion reigns in that scenario, especially at the start, which would be most of it given it lasted ten minutes.

You will not divine what happened by poring over shaky youtube clips and hanging on the words of people who are under fire and running/hiding for their lives. But obsessing over this is exactly what they want you to do, rather than focus on the motives for the event.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 04, 2017, 10:04:27 pm
Lol if there was only a pretty lady involved, y'all's continuing rivalry would be picture perfect.  ;D

I have to chime in though, I've certainly never been able to pin point gunfire when I've heard it in my 'hood. Whether it seems like it's coming a block or 20 away. Even with no skyscrapers, it spreads, echoes, all kinds of things.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 04, 2017, 11:53:09 pm
BOOM credit to a caller on the radio show Ground Zero, look at the corpse picture again. If it is a legitimate crime scene photo, some one fired shots after the man in the photo's blood had coagulated enough for the empty shells in the picture to land and not have blood on top of them.

GOT'EM



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 04, 2017, 11:59:07 pm
BOOM credit to a caller on the radio show Ground Zero, look at the corpse picture again. If it is a legitimate crime scene photo, some one fired shots after the man in the photo's blood had coagulated enough for the empty shells in the picture to land and not have blood on top of them.

GOT'EM



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This is what the controllers love.  There is so much lying and deception and ZERO accountability with so-called leadership anything is possible.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 05, 2017, 12:05:44 am
One Very Important Question That Hasn't Been Asked

A simple question quite frankly.  Why was there not ONE cop at the country music show?  For those of you who live in Europe...  You can't even go to a 4th of july festival at a city park, let alone Las Vegas strip, without some police presence here in USA.

We know for a fact that there was no police presence at this show because it took the very first cop many minutes to "ARRIVE".  This is absolutely not the norm in USA.  But it was that night.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 05, 2017, 12:18:17 am
One Very Important Question That Hasn't Been Asked

A simple question quite frankly.  Why was there not ONE cop at the country music show?  For those of you who live in Europe...  You can't even go to a 4th of july festival at a city park, let alone Las Vegas strip, without some police presence here in USA.

We know for a fact that there was no police presence at this show because it took the very first cop many minutes to "ARRIVE".  This is absolutely not the norm in USA.  But it was that night.



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No no. Prove there were no police. I've heard quite the opposite and I've been critical of their response time to the hotel, but I've NEVER heard about a lack of police presence.

I've heard about people being trapped in the event like a cage, but that's how every single concert has been set up in America since at least the mid 90s. Shit my parents have a story about almost being stampeded in a concert in Germany in the 1970s.

Don't spread rumor. What proof do you have that there were no police? And please tell me what that would have even mattered? 9mm vs. 5.56+ at an elevated position hundreds of yards away.




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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Clark County Sheriff Press Conference 10/4/17
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 05, 2017, 02:15:01 am
Here it is...













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Clark County Sheriff Press Conference 10/4/17
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 02:59:38 am
" we determined none of the cameras was recording" <---------- Yea right  :o


About 19 minutes into the video, sherrif, sound a little stressed, explains they are mystefied as to what he had been upto for the past 10 years, to paraphrase
the concealment of his life history was well thought out

Sheriff confirmed the Ogden booking - debunking Infowarts. about 20 mins

Sheriff states emphatically that he did intend to survive and had an escape plan. about 29 mins

Sheriff then goes onto to say that he thinks he had an accomplice, that he had to have had help





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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Sheriff says he had ACCOMPLICE and an ESCAPE PLAN
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 04:18:08 am
Daily Mail

'He had to have help at some point':
Las Vegas gunman's level of planning, firearms and ammo point to an ACCOMPLICE, police say - as they reveal the mass murderer had an 'escape plan'



By James Wilkinson For Dailymail.com
Published: 02:15 BST, 5 October 2017 | Updated: 09:21 BST, 5 October 2017
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4950426/Las-Vegas-shooter-ESCAPE-planned-police-reveal.html

The Las Vegas gunman who killed 58 civilians and injured hundreds more before killing himself on Sunday had originally hoped to survive his shooting and flee justice - and likely had an accomplice, it has emerged. Stephen Paddock, 64, had planned to escape the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel after firing on the Route 91 Harvest country music festival, Las Vegas Sheriff Joseph Lombardo revealed in a press conference Wednesday. Lombardo declined to reveal why he believed that Paddock had an exit planned, but said he was confident in the claim - and said that his scheme was so elaborate that he would have to be a 'super hero' to pull it off alone.

He said Paddock lived a 'secret life' and 'meticulously planned on the worst domestic attack in United States history.'

'Stephen Paddock is a man who spent decades acquiring weapons and ammo and lived a secret life, much of which will never be fully understood,' Lombardo said.

He also announced that the count of people injured in the attack was lower than initially stated - 489, not 527 - due to confusion at hospitals.

It wasn't clear why Lombardo thought that Paddock had expected to survive his insane assault, which is the worst mass shooting in US history. But he said that he believed the killer had ceased firing on the terrified civilians in order to figure out how he could escape, as SWAT teams closed in on his room.

He also noted that Paddock's car contained two 50lbs of the explosive Tannerite - in two 20lb tins and 10 1lb tins - as well as 1,600 rounds of ammunition.

A journalist in the press pool asked whether Paddock had planned to use the vehicle to escape, but Lombardo declined to answer. Lombardo also said he thought it was likely that Paddock had an accomplice, given the 23 rifles and piles of magazines in the room, the additional firearms in Paddock's homes, and the electronic devices recovered from his Mesquite house.

Paddock would have had to have been a 'super hero' to pull it off, Lombardo said, before catching himself for using the word 'hero' to refer to a mass murderer.

'Look at the weapon obtaining, the amounts of Tannerite available - do you think this was accomplished all on his own, face value?' he said.

'You gotta make the assumption he had to have help at some point, and we want to ensure that's the answer.' He continued: 'Put two and two together: another residence in Reno with several firearms, okay, electronics, and everything else associated with it, large amounts of ammo, a place in Mesquite. 'We know that he had a girlfriend. Do you think this is all self-facing, individuals are just, without talking to somebody, sequestered amongst themselves? Come on, folks.'

Marilou Danley, Paddock's 62-year-old girlfriend, landed back in the US from the Philippines on Tuesday and has spoken to the FBI.

She said in a statement today through her lawyer that she had no idea of Paddock's deranged plans. Aaron Rouse, FBI special agent in charge of the investigation, said that she was not in FBI custody and that she had been helping with their inquiries.

He also said there was no evidence 'to this point' that suggests terrorism, but that 'this is an ongoing investigation... we're not going to close down any doors.'

If Paddock did have an accomplice, then it might make sense of the claim made on Wednesday that Paddock had ordered room service for two guests days before the massacre - as shown by a receipt.

Lombardo also said that SWAT teams spotted two cameras on a room service cart outside Paddock's suite, and one in the peephole of a door. There was also a baby monitor camera in the family area of the hotel room, he said. None of them were recording. However, it's believed that they may have provided Paddock with a live view of the police as they advanced on his position.

He said that Paddock's attempts to flee had probably begun when he spotted security guard Jesus Campos - who had been investigating the gunfire separate from the police - approaching his room on one of the cameras. Paddock then fired 'well over 200 rounds' through the door into the hallway - miraculously only injuring, not killing, the courageous guard, he said.

Even more incredibly, when police arrived 60 seconds later, Lombardo said, Campos not only gave them his master key and information, he also helped clear nearby rooms of bystanders. Campos only sought medical attention when ordered to leave by the police, Lombardo claimed. But the sheriff said that while the security guard did distract Paddock from his spree, police were just seconds behind him - and would have done the same if he weren't there.

Like Undersheriff Kevin McMahill on Tuesday night, Lombardo stressed that although it took more than 70 minutes between the first shot fired and SWAT breaching the room, police were not sitting on their hands. Instead, he said, they were on Paddock's case from the very start, and once the killer stopped firing - after 10 minutes, according to bodycam footage - they focused on evacuating the floor, since he was barricaded in his room.

Unfortunately, Lombardo said, they are no closer to knowing what Paddock's motives might be for his killing spree - but he said that police were looking into why Paddock bought 33 rifles in October 2016. He confirmed that they were looking into the possibility that something may have triggered a mental issue around that time that caused him to buy the guns.

Lombardo also confirmed that Paddock had rented a room in Downtown Las Vegas during the Life is Beautiful Festival, which was held on September 22-24. He had booked out a suite at the Ogden, a condo building that was advertised for its views over the festival, including the main stage, where Gorillaz, Chance the Rapper, Muse and Lorde all played this year. It's not known why Paddock hired the room - if he intended to attack that festival, or to give himself a better idea of what to expect on Sunday are two possibilities. But if he'd opened fire during the event, and been able to fire the same distances that he did on Sunday, he could have hit 11 of the 15 blocks that the festival covered. It had 45,000 visitors per day this year. Lombardo said that the rooms were not rented directly from the Ogden, but through an Airbnb account run by someone living there.

He said that the Ogden and the festival's organizers had both helped with the investigation.

He said that some 'items' had been taken from the property, along with video footage - but said he didn't know if they counted as 'evidence' yet.

Also on Thursday, it emerged that the crowds at the Route 91 festival were not Paddock's only targets on Sunday: He'd also attempted to detonate tanks of jet fuel close to the event. The tanks are roughly two blocks away from the Mandalay Bay Resort and 1,100 feet from the concert site, and contain jet fuel for the nearby Los Angeles International Airport, The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported. They are perfectly in line with the second window that Paddock broke in a suite adjoining his main sniper's nest, around 2,000 feet away. Paddock had successfully managed to hit the tanks, but had failed to penetrate them, a source with knowledge of the investigation said.

The FBI had inspected the tanks and made measurements, and they have since been repaired.

The investigation continues further afield, at the two houses that Paddock owned in Verdi, outside Reno, and Mesquite - and from which investigators pulled rifles, handguns, shotguns, explosives and electronic devices.

Paddock, who made millions in real estate, bought the Mesquite property in 2014, attracted by its privacy - it has neighbors to either side of the home, but none at the rear - and paid in cash, CNN reported. Once in, he erected a privacy mesh that obscured his hilltop view of the town below; his neighbors successfully petitioned to have it taken down. One neighbor said Paddock told her: 'I don't want to be looking at people, and I don't want people looking at me.'

His neighbor, Scott Smith, said that Danley was pleasant, but Paddock was not, and wouldn't even return a friendly wave, and would usually only be seen entering or leaving the property. 'Garage is up. They're in the house. Garage is down. That was about it,' he said.

Thursday also saw a press statement given by Danley, who landed back in the US from the Philippines on Tuesday, and had been talking to the FBI since. In a prepared statement read out by her lawyer, Matt Lombard, Danley called Paddock 'a kind, caring, quiet man' and said she 'loved him and hoped for a quiet future together with him.' 'He never said anything to me, or took any action that I was aware of, that I understood in any way to be a warning that something horrible like this was going to happen,' she said.

Just over two weeks ago, she said, Paddock surprised her with a flight to the Philippines, which he said was so she could see her family - which she eagerly took. While there, she said, the multimillionaire sent her $100,000, which he said was to buy a house for her family.  'I was grateful, but honestly I was worried that first, the unexpected trip home and then the money, was a way of breaking up with me,' she said. 'It never occurred to me in any way whatsoever that he was planning violence against anyone.'

Danley concluded the statement by saying she was cooperating with the authorities and would do whatever she could do to 'help ease suffering or help in any way'.

Lombard left without answering any questions, including one about the weapons that Paddock had stockpiled in the home in Mesquite that he and Danley had shared.

In the wake of the mass killing, both Republicans and Democrats said they would be willing to discuss banning the bump-stock modifications seen on 12 rifles in Paddock's hotel room. The mods replace the stock and pistol grip on assault rifles with a sliding mechanism that 'bumps' the trigger on and off the shooter's finger - allowing for firing rates of up to 800 rounds a minute, effectively making it a full-auto weapon.

Those modifications are legal, the ATF confirmed on Wednesday, because they don't cause the gun to fire multiple shots when the trigger is depressed for an extended period. On Wednesday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., introduced legislation that would ban the sale and possession of bump stocks.

The devices were originally intended to help people with limited hand mobility to fire a semi-automatic without the individual trigger pulls required. They are attached to the rear of the gun and allow the rifle to slide back and forward while firing, causing the trigger to 'bump' into the shooter's finger with the natural recoil of each shot. So long as the shooter keeps his or her finger over the trigger, the semi-automatic gun will keep firing rapidly - much like a full-automatic.  The result is that the weapon's rate of fire is increased from between 45 and 60 rounds per minute to between 400 and 800 rounds per minute, according to Feinstein's office.

'In just nine minutes an individual was able to turn a concert venue into a battlefield,' Feinstein told reporters at a Capitol Hill press conference, flanked by Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., whose home state was rattled in 2012 by the Sandy Hook mass shooting, and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. Overall, Feinstein got 29 of her fellow Democrats to sign on in just a few hours. She added that her own daughter had planned to attend the event - and stay in the Mandalay Bay - but in the end did not.

No Republicans joined in that effort, but on Wednesday some GOP members said that they would consider backing such a ban. The Senate's third-ranking Republican, Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., said bump stocks are 'something I think we'll look at,' while Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C, suggested it was a 'good time' to hold a hearing on the matter. 'I'm not an expert on bump stocks, [but] all things that make America safer and don't infringe on the Second Amendment, count me in,' Graham said, according to CBS News. Speaking directly to the president, Blumenthal said: 'I hope you will provide leadership and at the very least back a bill that sops these killer accelerators, like these bump stops.'

So far the White House, along with many Congressional Republicans, have said now is not the time to be discussing gun control measures.

Feinstein, echoing many of her fellow Democrats, asked, 'If not, when will we ever do it?'

Footage also emerged on Thursday of one patriotic victim standing to shake Donald Trump's hand as he visited victims on Wednesday - even though he had been shot in the leg. 'Hey, this guy looks tough to me,' the president said as he shook Thomas Gunderson's hand. Gunderson posted the video to his Facebook page with the caption: 'I will never lie down when the President of this great country comes to shake my hand!

After Wednesday's visit, Trump praised the victims' bravery, and extended and invitation for them to visit him in Washington, DC. 'I just met some of the most amazing people,' he told reporters at University Medical Center. 'We met patients that were absolutely terribly wounded.' 'I invited a lot of them over to the White House,' he added.

Lombardo said in his press conference on Thursday that despite concerns raised by some, the president's visit had not interfered with the police investigation.

Trump had met officers who were on the ground when the shooting began, he said, not the separate team that were investigating the mass murder.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Stephen Paddock gambled $1MILLION a year
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 04:38:12 am
Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock gambled $1MILLION a year and paid for his $369,000 house in cash, real estate agent claims

* Stephen Paddock bought his 2,000 sq ft home in Mesquite in 2014 for $369,022
* Real estate agent said 'low key and relaxed' 64-year-old paid for his home in cash
* The Las Vegas gunman also told the agent that he gambled up to $1million a year

By Julian Robinson for MailOnline
Published: 07:59 BST, 5 October 2017
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4950814/Vegas-gunman-gambled-1m-year-used-cash-buy-home.html



Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock gambled up to $1million a year and paid for his house in cash, it has been claimed. The 64-year-old, who opened fire slaughtering 58 people at a country music festival at the weekend, bought his 2,000 sq ft home in Mesquite, Nevada in 2014. Real estate agents said Paddock told them his income came from gambling and decided quickly that he wanted to take the house because of its privacy and commanding hilltop view. He then paid for the two-bedroom $369,022 property in cash.

According to CNN, one agent said Paddock had come across as 'low key and relaxed, a good guy' - but that he had also revealed how he gambled up to $1million a year. It has also been revealed how the mass murdered put up a mesh privacy screen outside his home. The fence was so big it obscured his neighbor's view and following complaints from people living nearby, the local homeowner's association ordered him to take it down. The organisation has declined to comment, CNN reports.

One neighbor said Paddock told her: 'I don't want to be looking at people, and I don't want people looking at me.' His neighbor, Scott Smith, said that Danley was pleasant, but Paddock was not, and wouldn't even return a friendly wave, and would usually only be seen entering or leaving the property. 'Garage is up. They're in the house. Garage is down. That was about it,' he said.

It comes as Paddock's girlfriend said she had no inkling of the massacre he was plotting when he sent her on a trip abroad to see her family. Marilou Danley issued the statement after returning from her native Philippines and being questioned for much of the day by FBI agents still trying to figure out what drove Stephen Paddock to kill 58 people at a country music festival from his 32nd-floor hotel suite.

'He never said anything to me or took any action that I was aware of that I understood in any way to be a warning that something horrible like this was going to happen,' Ms Danley said in a statement read by her lawyer outside FBI headquarters in Los Angeles. Ms Danley, who out of the country for more than two weeks, said she was initially pleased when Paddock wired her money in the Philippines to buy a house for her family, but she later feared it was a way to break up with her. 'It never occurred to me in any whatsoever that he was planning violence against anyone,' she said.

Ms Danley, 62, who has been called a 'person of interest' by investigators, said she knew Paddock as a 'kind, caring, quiet man' and hoped they would have a future together. She said she was devastated by the carnage and she would cooperate with authorities as they struggle to get inside Paddock's mind.

Investigators are busy reconstructing his life, behaviour and the people he encountered in the weeks leading up to the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history, FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe said. That includes examining his computer and mobile phone.

But as of Wednesday, investigators were unable to come up with a motive for the Sunday night attack that left more than 500 people injured and ended with Paddock killing himself in his room at the Mandalay Bay hotel casino.

'This individual and this attack didn't leave the sort of immediately accessible thumbprints that you find on some mass casualty attacks,' Mr McCabe said.

The 64-year-old high-stakes gambler and real estate investor specifically requested an upper-floor room with a view of the music festival, according to a person who has seen hotel records turned over to investigators. The room, which goes for 590 US dollars (£445), was given to Paddock free because he was a good customer who wagered tens of thousands of dollars each time he visited the casino, the person said.

It was just another indication of how methodically he planned the attack. Authorities have said he brought 23 weapons in 10 suitcases into the room and set up cameras inside and out to watch for police closing in on him.

But investigators had little to work with in trying to determine what set him off. 'He was a private guy. That's why you can't find out anything about him,' his brother, Eric Paddock, said from his home in Florida. As for what triggered the massacre, the brother said: 'Something happened that drove him into the pit of hell.'

Paddock had no known criminal history. Public records contained no indication of any financial problems, and his brother described him as a wealthy real estate investor. 'I believe, based on what I have been told, the issue was not that he was under financial stress,' said Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, the ranking Democrat on the Homeland Security Committee.

President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump met privately with victims at a Las Vegas hospital on Wednesday and then with police officers and dispatchers, praising them and the doctors who treated the wounded.

'Our souls are stricken with grief for every American who lost a husband or a wife, a mother or a father, a son or a daughter,' he said. 'We know that your sorrow feels endless. We stand together to help you carry your pain.'

Paddock had stockpiled 47 guns since 1982 and bought 33 of them, mostly rifles, over the past year alone, right up until three days before the attack, Jill Snyder, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told CBS on Wednesday.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Stephen Paddock gambled $1MILLION a year
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 05, 2017, 04:58:38 am
Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock gambled $1MILLION a year and paid for his $369,000 house in cash, real estate agent claims

* Stephen Paddock bought his 2,000 sq ft home in Mesquite in 2014 for $369,022
* Real estate agent said 'low key and relaxed' 64-year-old paid for his home in cash
* The Las Vegas gunman also told the agent that he gambled up to $1million a year
Hahaha, so they managed to demonize CASH with this false flag.  Wow how convenient huh?  Everything that threatens the globalist psychopathic cybernetician mass murderers gets demonized in completely manufactured narratives based on military industrial complex/think tank engineered crisis.  These enslavement architects love to equate self-empowering, freedom facilitating things as evil and unacceptable.  So now if you're a proponent of paying cash for things, then that automatically means you're likely to gun people down out of the blue someday.  Oh also, if you're not on adversarial media (no such thing as "social" media) - you're automatically a threat to TPTB and national security/public safety.  This guy is the perfect false flag patsy for many reasons, as you can see.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas :Iraq War Vet Gave Exact Location Shooter Says Police Took 1 hour
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 05:00:57 am
Iraq War Vet Gave Exact Location Of Vegas Shooter - Says Police Took Over An Hour To Respond
https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/iraq-war-vet-gave-exact-location-vegas-shooter-says-police-took-hour-respond.html
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'The response time of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department during a recent mass shooting has been called into question by an Iraq War Veteran who claims he told police exactly where the suspect, Stephen Paddock, was firing on concertgoers, which was above his room in the Mandalay Bay casino.

Chris Bethel told reporters he was staying in a room just a few floors below Paddock and notified police to the mass murderer’s precise location. Now, Bethel is demanding an answer to the question as to why it took the LVMPD Swat team 1 hour and 12 minutes to penetrate Paddock’s room to neutralize the threat.

According to a timeline produced by the Daily Mail, the first reports of gunfire at the Route 91 Harvest Festival came in at 10:08 p.m. Bethel claimed he called the police to let them know from which floor and room the shooter was firing from. He is now miffed with incredulity that it took police 72 minutes to enter the room, only to find that Paddock had reportedly taken his life.'

Read more: Iraq War Vet Gave Exact Location Of Vegas Shooter—Says Police Took Over An Hour To Respond (https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/iraq-war-vet-gave-exact-location-vegas-shooter-says-police-took-hour-respond.html)



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Title: Re: Re: Las Vegas - Clark County Sheriff Press Conference 10/4/17
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 05, 2017, 05:02:15 am
" we determined none of the cameras was recording" <---------- Yea right  :o
They said the same thing about the 2005 globalist London bombing false flag.

Also, in one of the later Bourne movies, the CIA officer with his team of people surveilling city streets trying to find the guy who the MIC's global eavesdropping system mentioned "Operation Blackbriar", is shown to order his personnel to disable the CCTV cameras remotely from thousands of miles away electronically, before the CIA assassinated the guy who knew about their top secret plan.  SO the filmmaker threw in a tidbit of truth in a movie showing the public that the military industrial complex disables THEIR OWN surveillance systems when those systems would catch and therefore implicate THEM as the perpetrators.

Of course we don't need movies to go off of to claim this is really what they do, and this has been covered on the other forum years ago.  A huge point about this is that it shows that surveillance has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with stopping attacks, it is ONLY to control and enable interdiction and real time or swift punishment of non-elites for non-compliance of future anti-human, completely anti-freedom, globalist mandated laws.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 05, 2017, 05:15:17 am

This is what the controllers love.  There is so much lying and deception and ZERO accountability with so-called leadership anything is possible.



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You also have to remember, that even way back in the globalists big 2001 false flag in NY, they were going by their own psychopathic doctrine of terrorism is FOR the cameras, this is VERY key and has always been true since cameras have been around to showcase their 'work'.  It is their way of projecting consciousness shattering fear into the masses.  And when people are made so afraid, they will not care what solutions are implemented, as long as they believe that "good people" are really stepping in to try to "keep them safe".

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=165427.msg983447#msg983447

Real terrorist think tanks- RAND Corporation, CFR, CSIS, IBM, all defense contractors know that YOU think your cellphone cameras etc will enable you to catch them in their own acts, but they've factored that in, and this is why Troublemaker makes a great point, use the tools that freedom-loving people believe can show what really happened, and "get right in there", get right in that accountability arena that we're supposed to now have because of the accessibility of video recording, to wage extreme obfuscation, decoying, and manners of deception I don't even know the terms for right now.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dude447 on Oct 05, 2017, 05:18:37 am
O the old cameras not working routine can't remember how many times I have heard that one , or law enforcement have seized camera evidence never to be seen again .



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Brocke on Oct 05, 2017, 05:21:43 am
ITEM - The "Las Vegas Strip shooter targeted aviation fuel tanks" narrative is nonsense! There were no tracer or phosphorous rounds used.

Also...

My two cents - Shooting was a distraction for a world wide Bio-metric facial recognition security push...

Terror risks make tight security a routine for global hotels
https://todayonline.com/world/americas/terror-risks-make-tight-security-routine-global-hotels

National security COAG meeting: Australian airports to get facial recognition software
AUSTRALIAN airports will have anti-terror facial recognition software as early as next year after the PM secured the support of state and territory leaders.
https://news.com.au/national/politics/give-gun-smugglers-life-jail-terms-bill-shorten-says-in-the-wake-of-las-vegas-massacre/news-story/acbdab7a741895204762825e7623a877

Facial recognition technology to be introduced to combat terror
Potential terrorists and victims of terrorism will be identified in real time through facial recognition after the federal and state governments agreed to use new technology that will give security agencies instant access to data from photographs and drivers’ licences.
https://theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/facial-recognition-technology-introduced-to-combat-terror/news-story/dba92acccc7deb51aa6f2c61d40b7482




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Title: CCTV - "What happens in Vegas, gets Recorded in Vegas"
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 05:33:18 am
They said the same thing about the 2005 globalist London bombing false flag.

Also, in one of the later Bourne movies, the CIA officer with his team of people surveilling city streets trying to find the guy who the MIC's global eavesdropping system mentioned "Operation Blackbriar", is shown to order his personnel to disable the CCTV cameras remotely from thousands of miles away electronically, before the CIA assassinated the guy who knew about their top secret plan.  SO the filmmaker threw in a tidbit of truth in a movie showing the public that the military industrial complex disables THEIR OWN surveillance systems when those systems would catch and therefore implicate THEM as the perpetrators.



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The way I look at it, is CCTV 'failure' started with OKC and the mystery of why they never ever showed Mc Veigh parking the Truck... To which, most of us know the answer.

Reminding us of 7/7 is a particularly good example, because London at that time had the reputation of being the most surveilled spot on the planet. The casino hotels and the vegas strip are even more infamous for CCTV.

Of course not everybody triggers scrutiny from the security . . . . But we know for sure that our Patsy triggered Vegas Security because he was in the local slang a "Whale". This is admitted because its no secret that he was a big time gambler, he had been given an expensive hotel suite on the house... When Vegas does that to somebody they watch them like Hawks, they have staff assigned to these gamblers to monitor them and keep them happy.

Anyway, the one thing we can be sure of, is that an incredible amount of CCTV should be available.

Some of the CCTV might be in legal grey areas, and its probable that illegal cameras additionally caught the really private footage.


The technological solution to knocking out the cameras is rather probable, even if the shooters had full co-operation from all parties, to make sure some other unknown 3rd party did grab some CCTV. Like Vegas must be a blackmail paradise...

What happens in Vegas, gets Recorded in Vegas six ways to Sunday.

I have other thoughts, like I'm sure the Video is encrypted and that internal mob security is pretty damn efficient.



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Title: Re: CCTV - "What happens in Vegas, gets Recorded in Vegas"
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 05:33:54 am
O the old cameras not working routine can't remember how many times I have heard that one , or law enforcement have seized camera evidence never to be seen again .



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I'm in the queue waiting for the 9/11 Pentagon CCTV....  8)

Its only supposed to be one of the most high security spots on the entire planet..
But NO CCTV.

Yea, right.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Never Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 05:41:45 am
Never Let A Good Crisis Go To Waste













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Akio Kashiwagi
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 06:02:28 am
Akio Kashiwagi

???



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Will the REAL Paddock please STAND UP?!?!!?
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 05, 2017, 06:12:22 am
Will the REAL Paddock please STAND UP?!?!!?













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Akio Kashiwagi ~ Trump, Casinos, Mafia, Yakuza and The Banks
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 06:27:41 am
Akio Kashiwagi

???



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Trump, Casinos, Mafia, Yakuza and The Banks














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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Eric Paddock talks to media
Post by: Q on Oct 05, 2017, 07:25:40 am
Alex Jones Infowars was claiming that this guy is an actor with an earpiece, their reason for this conclusion being that he stumbled over his words a couple of times..I kid you not..

An interesting quote from it "It's like the bug from Men in Black put on a Steve suit and did this"













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - STEVE PIECZENIK says utter Tripe, total BS.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 08:00:13 am
Crisis Actor horse shit broadcast by CIA mouth piece Infowars

STEVE PIECZENIK says FALSE FLAG!! 10/4/17 (pt-4) REAL NEWS, ALEX JONES INFOWARS, WAR ROOM!













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - STEVE PIECZENIK says utter Tripe, total BS.
Post by: Q on Oct 05, 2017, 01:19:18 pm
Crisis Actor horse shit broadcast by CIA mouth piece Infowars

STEVE PIECZENIK says FALSE FLAG!! 10/4/17 (pt-4) REAL NEWS, ALEX JONES INFOWARS, WAR ROOM!


He claims that the whole thing was staged and no one was injured etc.

David Knight made a good point, that we should be looking at what will be done on the back of this attack and how it will be used rather than focusing on the details of what happened. As Truthstream pointed out, the likely motive for this attack is to put body scanners and biometric id into all public buildings and spaces.

The fact is that we don't know what happened in Vegas, and it is unlikely that we will ever have a reliable picture. We can't even completely rule out that Pieczenik is right, although my impression is that he is not. But that is essentially what we have - impressions and opinions based on youtube footage and information from official sources. Remember, the vast majority of the information, upon which people are basing their theories and opinions, is from official government sources.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - STEVE PIECZENIK says utter Tripe, total BS.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 01:41:20 pm
He claims that the whole thing was staged and no one was injured etc.

liveleak.com

Like Pieczenik is ip banned or summat ?
(lol)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 05, 2017, 04:14:47 pm
Seems interesting that the authorities let pictures of Steve Paddock at the crime scene body circulate so quickly.

The fact that they "leaked" reminds of the US putting the bodies of Saddam's sons on display.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - STEVE PIECZENIK says utter Tripe, total BS.
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 05, 2017, 04:59:40 pm
Crisis Actor horse shit broadcast by CIA mouth piece Infowars

STEVE PIECZENIK says FALSE FLAG!! 10/4/17 (pt-4) REAL NEWS, ALEX JONES INFOWARS, WAR ROOM!
Him saying false flag makes anyone who says false flag for completely different reasons than PIECZENIK, while disagreeing with PIECZENIK on things like crisis actors in this case, nonetheless gets you LUMPED IN with him and Alex Jones.  No one has the ability to differentiate between the type of fake patriot news from PIECZENIK and Jones, vs people who don't subscribe to their bs and don't support the current complete puppet in the WH.  TPTB love being able to paint everyone that disagrees with their lying scum with the same brush.  It works every time.  Nobody cares, and group think and stupid things like "karma" "reputation" on many forums facilitates pro-globalist trolls propaganda to constantly bash anyone who goes against the MIC's MSM narratives over the head and pout them all in a giant "nutjob" box, without ever having to worry about you influencing the public in any way that would significantly threaten TPTB.

Saying the right thing for the wrong reasons is WRONG.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - STEVE PIECZENIK says utter Tripe, total BS.
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 05, 2017, 05:48:06 pm
Him saying false flag makes anyone who says false flag for completely different reasons than PIECZENIK, while disagreeing with PIECZENIK on things like crisis actors in this case, nonetheless gets you LUMPED IN with him and Alex Jones.  No one has the ability to differentiate between the type of fake patriot news from PIECZENIK and Jones, vs people who don't subscribe to their bs and don't support the current complete puppet in the WH.  TPTB love being able to paint everyone that disagrees with their lying scum with the same brush.  It works every time.  Nobody cares, and group think and stupid things like "kara" "reputation" on many forums facilitates pro-globalist trolls propaganda to constantly bash anyone who goes against the MIC's MSM narratives over the head and pout them all in a giant "nutjob" box, without ever having to worry about you influencing the public in any way that would significantly threaten TPTB.

Saying the right thing for the wrong reasons is WRONG.



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Very true. I'm sure most of us have dealt with this problem countless times. I know I have.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Stephen Paddock gambled $1MILLION a year
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 05, 2017, 06:43:40 pm
Hahaha, so they managed to demonize CASH with this false flag.  Wow how convenient huh?  Everything that threatens the globalist psychopathic cybernetician mass murderers gets demonized in completely manufactured narratives based on military industrial complex/think tank engineered crisis.  These enslavement architects love to equate self-empowering, freedom facilitating things as evil and unacceptable.  So now if you're a proponent of paying cash for things, then that automatically means you're likely to gun people down out of the blue someday.  Oh also, if you're not on adversarial media (no such thing as "social" media) - you're automatically a threat to TPTB and national security/public safety.  This guy is the perfect false flag patsy for many reasons, as you can see.



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ET I'm glad to see you bringing to everyone's attention the surveillance / police state / cashless implications that this FF  was 'designed' to attack.

After we leave the 'reaction' phase of this FF,  we wait for the 'solution' phase.  Will Trump NOT give in to the globalists causing a FF in it's own right, where the 'Counter Trump Left Solution' will save us all from ourselves with draconian globalists laws / regulations...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 05, 2017, 06:50:09 pm
What is clear to me.

The largest mass shooting murder spree in american history just happens to take place at the foot of a giant black pyramid. It stinks of New World Order, in my opinion.


More down to earth, this is in the Daily Mail :

National Rifle Association dramatically BACKS gun control measure to ban 'bump stocks' Vegas shooter used to make his weapons automatic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4953302/NRA-says-bump-stocks-regulated.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 05, 2017, 06:57:38 pm
Am I only poster who considers this guy maybe went crazy and did himself?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 05, 2017, 07:02:24 pm
Possibly  ;D

It's all good though. Look at the corpse picture again. The empty shells look like they landed on top of the pool of coagulated blood instead of being there before and having blood run over them.

There's no blood on top of the empty shells. So how did he do this on his own and then fire shells after all that blood from his head flowed all over hell?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 05, 2017, 07:13:39 pm
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=63b_1507062726



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 05, 2017, 07:17:34 pm
Possibly  ;D

It's all good though. Look at the corpse picture again. The empty shells look like they landed on top of the pool of coagulated blood instead of being there before and having blood run over them.

There's no blood on top of the empty shells. So how did he do this on his own and then fire shells after all that blood from his head flowed all over hell?



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Can you post the link to the picture?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 05, 2017, 07:40:18 pm
Meet The Iraq War Veteran Who Led Police To The Vegas Shooter

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/meet-iraq-war-veteran-who-led-police-vegas-shooter



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 05, 2017, 07:46:21 pm
Can you post the link to the picture?



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https://liveleak.com/view?i=36c_1507085146

It's the last picture on that link.

The empty shells are on top of the coagulated blood glop with no blood on top of them.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 05, 2017, 08:07:40 pm
You know what, think about this too, wouldn't it take a certain amount of time for the blood to coagulate like seen and then have the empty shells land on top like that?

I mean, if the blood was fresh and who ever started firing, the shells would've landed in the pool of fresh blood and would've rolled around in the fresh blood before it coagulated to the point where something would lay on top of it like so.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 05, 2017, 09:23:31 pm
I also want to chime in on the room service receipt that's floating around. For myself, it proves nothing at all for two reasons because...

1. I was a waiter for a long time. Sometimes, you'd ring up an extra seat or guest by accident and couldn't correct due to lack of time or you'd have to ring up two guests because there were two drinks or two entrees or w/e ordered. Weird things like that change with different POS systems and how management wants the program to run. We're not talking airplane tickets or reserving cemetery plots here; it's a food service receipt.  ::)

2. I've ordered two sodas plenty of times, especially while at a hotel and needing some extra as a mixer for my rum. That bagel on the receipt? That's called being ready for breakfast in the morning.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 05, 2017, 11:30:43 pm
Meet The Iraq War Veteran Cyber Intelligence Contractor Who Led Police To The Vegas Shooter

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/meet-iraq-war-veteran-who-led-police-vegas-shooter



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Here's a little background on the 'vet' the corporate media is waving in front of us, who just happened to be staying below the 'so-called' gunman / patsy.  The rest of the story...

Chris Bethel isn't just some 'average six pack' vet 'hero' who bravely led police to gunman (as if they couldn't have done that without him  ::)) As it turns out, Chris Bethel has been an IT military contractor for quite sometime.   Before the 'Q Stallion's of the board tell us 'Nothing to see here, move along' his background and current employment gets really interesting if you think of the 'Who Benefits' from these mass shootings perspective.

Chris Bethel had worked as a senior IT computer wizard at Lockheed Martin as a military contractor before he moved on to his current employer The Leidos Corporation.   https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-bethel-21757147

When asking who would benefit from a false flag Northwoods type of operation, one company that certainly would benefit, would be the Leidos Corporation.  With people like Mr. Frank Kendall who previously served as the Under Secretary of Defense sitting on it's board, the Las Vegas mass shooting will certainly be a big boom in stocks and investments for this company, and Frank Kendall's job as Under Secretary of Defense, was to acquire bigger military budgets during hard times, and was successful in doing so.  No doubt Leidos chairman Mr. Frank Kendall with his deep military / intelligence industrial complex connections (Yeah, the very guys / gals who stage these false flags) will use this latest mass shooting to line the pockets of himself the company (Chris Bethel hem hem) and it's investors.
https://www.leidos.com

Of course some on this board will scoff, but pardon me.  It's just too damn convenient for me that an employee of a company that would greatly benefit from a shooting like this which has direct ties to the military intelligence complex would be the 'hero' (ala Boston Bombing) that the corporate media is waving at us.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 05, 2017, 11:47:47 pm
Good Lord, One couldn't even make this stuff up   ::)

Law Enforcement Instructor
http://jobs.leidos.com/ShowJob/Id/1018890/Law-Enforcement-Instructor/

The Intelligence and Homeland Security Group of Leidos (SAY HEY CHRIS!) has job openings for Law Enforcement Instructors for subcontract at the Center for Domestic Preparedness in Anniston, AL. These are opportunities to work on a Corp to Corp 1099 basis.

JOB SUMMARY:
FEMA’s Center for Domestic Preparedness (CDP), located in Anniston, Alabama, is the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS)'s only federally chartered Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) training center. The CDP began operations in June 1998 as the only all-hazards training center, offering training on Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear, and Explosive (CBRNE) weapons. While the training tempo has increased dramatically, the CDP’s training programs provide the very best in advanced hands-on training for America's emergency responders.

JOB DESCRIPTION:
Instructors will deliver disaster preparedness and response training to professional audiences through lecture and hands-on exercises. Instruction focuses on catastrophic events that result in mass casualty incidents and preparedness and response planning. Instructors are expected to maintain a knowledge base as a subject matter expert in the assigned course content. Instructors are also expected to actively seek and participate in cross-training opportunities as well as present current incidents in evening lecture(s) to maximize instructor resources and the overall training experience for student responders. Instructors are expected to travel in support of position requirements, and perform training duties as assigned.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 05, 2017, 11:53:47 pm
Intelligence Operations and Requirements Shift Lead Leidos Corporation
http://jobs.leidos.com/ShowJob/Id/1285189/Intelligence-Operations-and-Requirements-Shift-Lead-(Mid-Level)/

Intelligence Operations and Requirements Shift Lead (Mid-Level)

APPLY NOW
Job Number:639824
Job Category:Intelligence Analysis
Location:FORT BELVOIR, VA US
Schedule:Full-time
Travel:None
Shift:Day Job
Potential for Teleworking:No
Clearance Level Must Currently Possess:Top Secret/SCI
Clearance Level Must Be Able to Obtain:None
Description:
Duties: Provide IMCC Operations Cell with Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) in multi-discipline;   IOC SMEs will populate and maintain IMCC Knowledge Enterprise (e.g., Dashboard(s), Web-portals, and Common Operational Picture), and execute the operations process through communicating and participating as part of integrated staff activities;  The personnel supporting the IOC will (telephonically, and via various networks) receive, track, review, evaluate and respond to worldwide military-political events that potentially impact INSCOM, Army, and National interests. During crisis situations, the IMCC/IOC becomes the initial focal point for incoming information, facilitates responses for HQs INSCOM, and maintains liaison between INSCOM Major Subordinate Commands (MSC), HQDA, host installation, and other government agencies, and when established, is an integral part of the Crisis Action Team (CAT)
.
Maintain a shift as part of a 24/7 mission command capability for the INSCOM Leadership
Monitor the HQ INSCOM IOC phone lines that include commercial, DSN, SVOIP and NSTS lines. All lines are equipped with voice mail services that shall be checked at least every three hours. All phone calls or voicemails requiring support will be documented in a working log.
Serve as the single focal point for the interface between HQ INSCOM, its MSCs, supported units and organizations, Department of Defense (DoD), Army Operations Center (AOC), and Intelligence Community
.
Respond to general inquiries from SIL, INSCOM G-3 Directorate leadership, IMCC leadership (e.g., G-3, Deputy and SGM of Operations, G-3/3 Current Operations Chief, Deputy, and NCOIC, Regional Desk Officers, and IOC Chief and Deputy), the COR, or higher government authority.
Effectively apply critical thinking methodologies and processes in resolving complex problems, conducting analysis, development, production and delivery of products; to include, responding appropriately to RFI, drafting EXSUMS, information papers, briefings and presenting oral presentations.

Prepare and conduct Shift Change Briefs/Updates.  Contractor personnel shall conduct a mandatory transition meeting between shifts which provides a seamless transition of ongoing actions/activities from one shift to the next; facilitating continuous situational awareness and understanding of INSCOM global intelligence operations and serves as an action-officer level exchange of information for matters of cross-staff interest or requiring cross-staff coordination.

Provide summary/EXSUM of Shift Change key points to the Senior IMCC Operations and Intelligence Support / Senior Intelligence and Operations Analyst/Site Lead and the COR.

Perform routine workspace housekeeping tasks; to include, regular vacuuming, daily trash removal, and maintaining a clean and orderly work area.

Monitor news media outlets for situational awareness, specifically for worldwide news reports that may impact INSCOM and Army equities.  Maintain continuous surveillance of the world situation for items of interest to the INSCOM or ARSTAFF and report using the appropriate means (e.g. EXSUM, log entry, email, etc.) IAW established SOPs and Battle Drills.

Monitor NIPRNET, SIPRNET, and JWICS networks for worldwide and national events, both natural and manmade, that have an impact on the INSCOM organization or INSCOM operations. This includes, but is not limited to, earthquakes, hurricanes, bombings, active shooters, and military attacks.

Qualifications:
Quals: Desired: BA or BS in any discipline- Go



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - remember Dr. John J. Hamre? (CSIS, MITRE, SAIC)
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 06, 2017, 02:49:44 am
Trump adds biometrics industry veteran to transition team
http://www.biometricupdate.com/201611/trump-adds-biometrics-industry-veteran-to-transition-team

November 28, 2016 -  According to an FCW report, President-elect Donald Trump has named Michael T. Dougherty, currently CEO of the Secure Identity and Biometrics Association (SIBA), as a member of his transition team, with responsibility over the Department of Homeland Security.

The transition process, governed by the Presidential Transition Act, ensures the smooth transfer of executive power. Dougherty will provide policy advice to the incoming Trump administration, which has made completing the biometric entry-exit visa tracking system, now in pilot project stage, a key component of its proposed immigration policy.

Dougherty has over 20 years of legal and policy experience in the federal government. At the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), he was appointed Ombudsman for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services where he led an office of 27 professionals with a US$6.5 million budget.

Dougherty served as Legislative Counsel to Senator Jon Kylon the Senate Judiciary Committee and prior to that, as a Senior Policy Advisor at DHS Headquarters. He also served as an appellate litigator with the Department of Justice (DOJ) Office of Immigration Litigation,
and as a Special Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia.

Immediately before he became the CEO of SIBA, he was Director of Business Development in Homeland Security Programs at Raytheon. At the defense contractor, he was responsible for initiating and supporting pursuits in the homeland and public safety markets, and leading collaborative efforts across businesses to bring distinctive products and services to civilian mission sets. He also represented Raytheon as a a thought leader, writing white papers and speaking at both U.S. and international events. He also worked to evaluate third-party technologies for investment purposes.

At SIBA, Dougherty is responsible for promoting awareness of technologies, services and processes that could secure and improve travel, borders, health care, law enforcement, commercial transactions and emergency situation management. SIBA is a non-profit group that promotes the value of secure identity technologies and biometric solutions. It members, who include Unisys, General Dynamics Mission Systems, Leidos, Identify, RiVidium, NEC, Advanced Optical Systems, and Disaster Solutions, share a common interest in biometrics, identity management, cyber protection, and mission assurance.

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More "draining the swamp"?


Notes from Shipp's presentation: Who is “they”??

Shadow or Secret Government is Intelligence Agencies while Deep State SUPPORTS these agencies (mostly financial)

Shadow Government primary players: CIA/CFR, NSA connected to Silicon Valley, And MSM. They control/influence all 3 branches of the visible government. Note that CIA was created WITHOUT Congressional approval.

Secondary players include FBI, NGA, NGTC, NRO, DIA (torture program), DOS, DHS, DNI – 17 Agencies, and JSOC – President's private army.

The Deep State, the system behind Shadow Government consists of the MIC, MICC intelligence contractors, defense contractors, Federal Reserve, IMF/World Bank, MIC lobbyists, foreign lobbyists, central banks, and a connection between the Treasury and Wall Street offshore accounts.

Estimated 4,800,000 Americans hold some sort of security clearance. They have signed a secrecy agreement and can go to jail for speaking about what they are involved with.

Primary MIC players are Lockheed Martin (tracks all USPS mail, airport biometrics, info tracking for CIA and NSA), Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Booz Allen Hamilton, Raytheon, and General Dynamics. One trillion USD/year is sent to these folks. All go through the Congressional Armed Services Committee headed by......John McCain.

Intelligence Industrial Complex consists of Leidos Holdings, SAIC, CACI, CSRA, Booz Allen. They are contracted, without public accountability by CIA, NSA, NRO, and NGA. Booz Allen rakes in 50 billion USD/yr. These companies do 80% of the top secret work for the government.


Soros is a small part of a much bigger picture. Qui Bono?

Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon, Booz-Allen Hamilton, Leidos Holdings, SAIC, CSRA, and CACI to name a few...$800 billion is at stake.

Yeah. The “middle east” correction to the narrative doesn't make sense and is completely out of profile for this guy. Quite the globetrotter all of a sudden with his GF in the FAR east. Whenever I see “FBI” as the source of fresh narrative-steering information, I'm always dubious. I also see no evidence from the transcripts that the guy in the room shot first. This is all based on statements from anonymous “authorities”.
http://executives.findthecompany.com/l/74104/Dr-John-J-Hamre

Biography
Dr. Hamre, 56, was elected President and Chief Executive Officer of CSIS in April of 2000. Prior to joining CSIS, he served as U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense from 1997 to 2000 and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) from 1993 to 1997. Dr. Hamre is a Director of MITRE Corporation, Choicepoint, Inc. and SAIC, Inc. He received a B.A. degree, with highest distinction from Augustana College in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, was a Rockefeller Fellow at Harvard Divinity School and was awarded a Ph.D., with distinction, from the School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University, in 1978. Dr. Hamre has been a Director of ITT since 2000.

Other Employers
Company   Position   Executive Tenure
Leidos Holdings Inc
Director

2005 - 2007

https://secure.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/SAIC/insiders?pid=1150165

John J. Hamre

Dr. John J. Hamre is President, Chief Executive Officer & Trustee at Center for Strategic & International Studies, Inc., Chairman at The MITRE Corp. and Chairman of United States Defense Policy Board. He is on the Board of Directors at Science Applications International Corp., Leidos, Inc., Center for Strategic & International Studies, Inc. and MIT Lincoln Laboratory. Dr. Hamre was previously employed as an Independent Director by Exelis, Inc., an Independent Director by Xylem, Inc., an Independent Director by Leidos Holdings, Inc., an Independent Director by ITT Corp., Chairman-Defense Policy Board by The United States Army (District of Columbia), Deputy Assistant Director by Congressional Budget Office, and Chairman & Chief Executive Officer by Maytag Corp. He also served on the board at Oshkosh Corp., ChoicePoint Precision Marketing, Inc., ITT Industries Ltd. and The Charles Stark Draper Laboratory, Inc. He received his undergraduate degree from Augustana College (South Dakota) and a doctorate degree from The Johns Hopkins University.

http://executives.findthecompany.com/l/6068/Dr-John-J-Hamre-PhD

2008 Biography
Dr. Hamre, 60, was elected President and Chief Executive Officer of CSIS in April of 2000. Prior to joining CSIS, he served as U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense from 1997 to 2000 and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) from 1993 to 1997. Dr. Hamre is a Director of MITRE Corporation, a not-for-profit organization chartered to work in the public interest, with expertise in systems engineering, information technology, operational concepts, and enterprise modernization.

He received a B.A. degree, with highest distinction, from Augustana College in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, was a Rockefeller Fellow at Harvard Divinity School and was awarded a Ph.D., with distinction, from the School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University, in 1978. Dr. Hamre has extensive strategic and international experience, particularly with respect to defense related businesses. He has achieved recognized prominence in strategic, international and defense fields. Dr. Hamre has also served as a Director in other public companies, including SAIC, Inc. and Oshkosh Corporation, providing additional relevant experience.

Dr. Hamre has been a Director of ITT since 2000. He has served as a Director of SAIC, Inc. since 2005 and Oshkosh Corporation since 2009. Dr. Hamre was previously a Director of Choicepoint, Inc. from May 2002 through September 2008. On October 5, 2011, John J. Hamre tendered his resignation from the Board, conditioned on the occurrence of the Spin-off and effective immediately(October 31, 2011).

Other Employers
Company   Position   Executive Tenure
Science Applications International Corp
Director
2013 - 2017
Leidos Holdings Inc
Director
2005 - 2016
Total Annual Compensation   Total Reported Compensation at Company
$291,494 USD   $578,287 USD

Director
2011 - 2015
Xylem Inc
Director
2011 - 2013
Oshkosh Corp
Director
2009 - 2011

https://uniteordiemedia.com/why-google-made-the-nsa-insurge-intelligence-medium/

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Mass surveillance is about control. It’s promulgators may well claim, and even believe, that it is about control for the greater good, a control that is needed to keep a cap on disorder, to be fully vigilant to the next threat. But in a context of rampant political corruption, widening economic inequalities, and escalating resource stress due to climate change and energy volatility, mass surveillance can become a tool of power to merely perpetuate itself, at the public’s expense.

A major function of mass surveillance that is often overlooked is that of knowing the adversary to such an extent that they can be manipulated into defeat. The problem is that the adversary is not just terrorists. It’s you and me. To this day, the role of information warfare as propaganda has been in full swing, though systematically ignored by much of the media.

Here, INSURGE INTELLIGENCE exposes how the Pentagon Highlands Forum’s co-optation of tech giants like Google to pursue mass surveillance, has played a key role in secret efforts to manipulate the media as part of an information war against the American government, the American people, and the rest of the world: to justify endless war, and ceaseless military expansionism.

THE WAR MACHINE

In September 2013, the website of the Montery Institute for International Studies’ Cyber Security Initiative (MIIS CySec) posted a final version of a paper on ‘cyber-deterrence’ by CIA consultant Jeffrey Cooper, vice president of the US defense contractor SAIC and a founding member of the Pentagon’s Highlands Forum. The paper was presented to then NSA director Gen. Keith Alexander at a Highlands Forum session titled ‘Cyber Commons, Engagement and Deterrence’ in 2010.

MIIS CySec is formally partnered with the Pentagon’s Highlands Forum through an MoU signed between the provost and Forum president Richard O’Neill, while the initiative itself is funded by George C. Lee: the Goldman Sachs executive who led the billion dollar valuations of Facebook, Google, eBay, and other tech companies.

Cooper’s eye-opening paper is no longer available at the MIIS site, but a final version of it is available via the logs of a public national security conferencehosted by the American Bar Association. Currently, Cooper is chief innovation officer at SAIC/Leidos, which is among a consortium of defense technology firms including Booz Allen Hamilton and others contracted to develop NSA surveillance capabilities.

The Highlands Forum briefing for the NSA chief was commissioned under contract by the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, and based on concepts developed at previous Forum meetings. It was presented to Gen. Alexander at a “closed session” of the Highlands Forum moderated by MIIS Cysec director, Dr. Itamara Lochard, at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington DC.

SAIC/Leidos’ Jeffrey Cooper (middle), a founding member of the Pentagon’s Highlands Forum, listening to Phil Venables (right), senior partner at Goldman Sachs, at the 2010 Forum session on cyber-deterrence at the CSIS
Like Rumsfeld’s IO roadmap, Cooper’s NSA briefing described “digital information systems” as both a “great source of vulnerability” and “powerful tools and weapons” for “national security.” He advocated the need for US cyber intelligence to maximize “in-depth knowledge” of potential and actual adversaries, so they can identify “every potential leverage point” that can be exploited for deterrence or retaliation. “Networked deterrence” requires the US intelligence community to develop “deep understanding and specific knowledge about the particular networks involved and their patterns of linkages, including types and strengths of bonds,” as well as using cognitive and behavioural science to help predict patterns. His paper went on to essentially set out a theoretical architecture for modelling data obtained from surveillance and social media mining on potential “adversaries” and “counterparties.”

A year after this briefing with the NSA chief, Michele Weslander Quaid — another Highlands Forum delegate — joined Google to become chief technology officer, leaving her senior role in the Pentagon advising the undersecretary of defense for intelligence. Two months earlier, the Defense Science Board (DSB) Task Force on Defense Intelligence published its report on Counterinsurgency (COIN), Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (IRS) Operations. Quaid was among the government intelligence experts who advised and briefed the Defense Science Board Task Force in preparing the report. Another expert who briefed the Task Force was Highlands Forum veteran Linton Wells. The DSB report itself had been commissioned by Bush appointee James Clapper, then undersecretary of defense for intelligence — who had also commissioned Cooper’s Highlands Forum briefing to Gen. Alexander. Clapper is now Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, in which capacity he lied under oath to Congress by claiming in March 2013 that the NSA does not collect any data at all on American citizens.

Michele Quaid’s track record across the US military intelligence community was to transition agencies into using web tools and cloud technology. The imprint of her ideas are evident in key parts of the DSB Task Force report, which described its purpose as being to “influence investment decisions” at the Pentagon “by recommending appropriate intelligence capabilities to assess insurgencies, understand a population in their environment, and support COIN operations.”

The report named 24 countries in South and Southeast Asia, North and West Africa, the Middle East and South America, which would pose “possible COIN challenges” for the US military in coming years. These included Pakistan, Mexico, Yemen, Nigeria, Guatemala, Gaza/West Bank, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, among other “autocratic regimes.” The report argued that “economic crises, climate change, demographic pressures, resource scarcity, or poor governance could cause these states (or others) to fail or become so weak that they become targets for aggressors/insurgents.” From there, the “global information infrastructure” and “social media” can rapidly “amplify the speed, intensity, and momentum of events” with regional implications. “Such areas could become sanctuaries from which to launch attacks on the US homeland, recruit personnel, and finance, train, and supply operations.”

The imperative in this context is to increase the military’s capacity for “left of bang” operations — before the need for a major armed forces commitment — to avoid insurgencies, or pre-empt them while still in incipient phase. The report goes on to conclude that “the Internet and social media are critical sources of social network analysis data in societies that are not only literate, but also connected to the Internet.” This requires “monitoring the blogosphere and other social media across many different cultures and languages” to prepare for “population-centric operations.”

[INSERT:  THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THEY'VE CREATED THE "SUPER SECRET LIFE" NARRATIVE OF COMPLETE PATSY STEPHEN PADDOCK.]

The Pentagon must also increase its capacity for “behavioral modeling and simulation” to “better understand and anticipate the actions of a population” based on “foundation data on populations, human networks, geography, and other economic and social characteristics.” Such “population-centric operations” will also “increasingly” be needed in “nascent resource conflicts, whether based on water-crises, agricultural stress, environmental stress, or rents” from mineral resources. This must include monitoring “population demographics as an organic part of the natural resource framework.”

Other areas for augmentation are “overhead video surveillance,” “high resolution terrain data,” “cloud computing capability,” “data fusion” for all forms of intelligence in a “consistent spatio-temporal framework for organizing and indexing the data,” developing “social science frameworks” that can “support spatio-temporal encoding and analysis,” “distributing multi-form biometric authentication technologies [“such as fingerprints, retina scans and DNA samples”] to the point of service of the most basic administrative processes” in order to “tie identity to all an individual’s transactions.” In addition, the academy must be brought in to help the Pentagon develop “anthropological, socio-cultural, historical, human geographical, educational, public health, and many other types of social and behavioral science data and information” to develop “a deep understanding of populations.”


A few months after joining Google, Quaid represented the company in August 2011 at the Pentagon’s Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) Customer and Industry Forum. The forum would provide “the Services, Combatant Commands, Agencies, coalition forces” the “opportunity to directly engage with industry on innovative technologies to enable and ensure capabilities in support of our Warfighters.” Participants in the event have been integral to efforts to create a “defense enterprise information environment,” defined as “an integrated platform which includes the network, computing, environment, services, information assurance, and NetOps capabilities,” enabling warfighters to “connect, identify themselves, discover and share information, and collaborate across the full spectrum of military operations.” Most of the forum panelists were DoD officials, except for just four industry panelists including Google’s Quaid.

DISA officials have attended the Highlands Forum, too — such as Paul Friedrichs, a technical director and chief engineer of DISA’s Office of the Chief Information Assurance Executive.

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

Given all this it is hardly surprising that in 2012, a few months after Highlands Forum co-chair Regina Dugan left DARPA to join Google as a senior executive, then NSA chief Gen. Keith Alexander was emailing Google’s founding executive Sergey Brin to discuss information sharing for national security. In those emails, obtained under Freedom of Information by investigative journalist Jason Leopold, Gen. Alexander described Google as a “key member of [the US military’s] Defense Industrial Base,” a position Michele Quaid was apparently consolidating. Brin’s jovial relationship with the former NSA chief now makes perfect sense given that Brin had been in contact with representatives of the CIA and NSA, who partly funded and oversaw his creation of the Google search engine, since the mid-1990s.

In July 2014, Quaid spoke at a US Army panel on the creation of a “rapid acquisition cell” to advance the US Army’s “cyber capabilities” as part of the Force 2025 transformation initiative. She told Pentagon officials that “many of the Army’s 2025 technology goals can be realized with commercial technology available or in development today,” re-affirming that “industry is ready to partner with the Army in supporting the new paradigm.” Around the same time, most of the media was trumpeting the idea that Google was trying to distance itself from Pentagon funding, but in reality, Google has switched tactics to independently develop commercial technologies which would have military applications the Pentagon’s transformation goals.

Yet Quaid is hardly the only point-person in Google’s relationship with the US military intelligence community.

One year after Google bought the satellite mapping software Keyhole from CIA venture capital firm In-Q-Tel in 2004, In-Q-Tel’s director of technical assessment Rob Painter — who played a key role in In-Q-Tel’s Keyhole investment in the first place — moved to Google. At In-Q-Tel, Painter’s work focused on identifying, researching and evaluating “new start-up technology firms that were believed to offer tremendous value to the CIA, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, and the Defense Intelligence Agency.” Indeed, the NGA had confirmed that its intelligence obtained via Keyhole was used by the NSA to support US operations in Iraq from 2003 onwards.

A former US Army special operations intelligence officer, Painter’s new job at Google as of July 2005 was federal manager of what Keyhole was to become: Google Earth Enterprise. By 2007, Painter had become Google’s federal chief technologist.

That year, Painter told the Washington Post that Google was “in the beginning stages” of selling advanced secret versions of its products to the US government. “Google has ramped up its sales force in the Washington area in the past year to adapt its technology products to the needs of the military, civilian agencies and the intelligence community,” the Post reported. The Pentagon was already using a version of Google Earth developed in partnership with Lockheed Martin to “display information for the military on the ground in Iraq,” including “mapping out displays of key regions of the country” and outlining “Sunni and Shiite neighborhoods in Baghdad, as well as US and Iraqi military bases in the city. Neither Lockheed nor Google would say how the geospatial agency uses the data.” Google aimed to sell the government new “enhanced versions of Google Earth” and “search engines that can be used internally by agencies.”

White House records leaked in 2010 showed that Google executives had held several meetings with senior US National Security Council officials. Alan Davidson, Google’s government affairs director, had at least three meetings with officials of the National Security Council in 2009, including White House senior director for Russian affairs Mike McFaul and Middle East advisor Daniel Shapiro. It also emerged from a Google patent application that the company had deliberately been collecting ‘payload’ data from private wifi networks that would enable the identification of “geolocations.” In the same year, we now know, Google had signed an agreement with the NSA giving the agency open-ended access to the personal information of its users, and its hardware and software, in the name of cyber security — agreements that Gen. Alexander was busy replicating with hundreds of telecoms CEOs around the country.

Thus, it is not just Google that is a key contributor and foundation of the US military-industrial complex: it is the entire Internet, and the wide range of private sector companies — many nurtured and funded under the mantle of the US intelligence community (or powerful financiers embedded in that community) — which sustain the Internet and the telecoms infrastructure; it is also the myriad of start-ups selling cutting edge technologies to the CIA’s venture firm In-Q-Tel, where they can then be adapted and advanced for applications across the military intelligence community. Ultimately, the global surveillance apparatus and the classified tools used by agencies like the NSA to administer it, have been almost entirely made by external researchers and private contractors like Google, which operate outside the Pentagon.

Read More: http://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/why-google-made-the-nsa-2a80584c9c1

http://theantimedia.org/why-big-business-profit-is-the-real-reason-behind-nsa-surveillance/

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Why Big Business Profit Is The Real Reason Behind NSA Surveillance
May 14, 2015 at 3:23 pm
Written by Anti-Media News Desk

Claire Bernish
May 14, 2015

(ANTIMEDIA) The US Surveillance State is scrambling to save itself in the wake of a federal ruling that declared the bulk collection of metadata under a provision of the Patriot Act, which is set to expire on June 1, illegal . But the reason for so many ‘experts’ touting the benefits of surveillance, goes beyond the basic desire to spy on Americans. Because, as you might imagine, “terrorism” is big business.

Under the guise of such a nebulous phrase as the ‘War on Terror’, it’s well known how the military-industrial complex is thriving. But another booming industry has escaped the same attention, in part because the subject, itself, is so controversial — surveillance. As we learn with increasing frequency, the government often acts as a proxy for corporate interests, and the business of spying is no exception.

As would be important with any issue where the government is concerned, examining the personal history and financial ties of the so-called ‘experts’ offering reasons why surveillance is so crucial will give better insight into why we’re being spied on.

Acting on insight into the NSA’s insidious surveillance program from leaks by various whistleblowers, The Intercept investigated ties between spying’s biggest proponents and the lucrative field of surveillance.

With House approval and an upcoming vote from the Senate, the USA Freedom Act, which by name purports to give us freedom from spying, but by content helps the program continue, these experts are popping up everywhere to explain why giving up a little liberty for security really isn’t a big deal. But a big deal is precisely what someone like Jack Keane, a military analyst for Fox News, will get if the bill passes. Keane is certainly well-qualified to give his opinion, having been a four-star General in the Army and now heading the Institute for the Study of War, but when he said the bulk collection of phone records is “vital for national security”, his opinion wasn’t an unbiased piece of advice.

Keane, who was a proponent of legislation similar to the Freedom Act, would have the public believe that “what the NSA has been doing has been right on the mark”. There is good reason for this, since he has served as a board member for NSA contractor General Dynamics since 2004, a position which earns him a quarter million dollars in annual income through cash and stock options. According to a Boston Globe article from 2010, he also consults with other military contractors to have his clients hired into government jobs, though he claims his lobbying falls below the requirement for registration under the Lobbying Disclosure Act.

Calling the unprecedented information disclosure by Edward Snowden a “traitorous act [which] is a perfect example of the dual threat we face from state and non-state actors” doesn’t seem that unusual. But when former Republican National Committee Chair Jim Gilmore did so, it was from the perspective of board member for a major NSA contractor. Since 2009, Gilmore has earned more than $1 million in that seat at CACI International, the same firm whose contractors were responsible for the graphic abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib. Not so coincidentally, CACI purchased another NSA contracting firm in 2013 for $820 million, the cybersecurity-focused Six3 Systems. Gilmore doesn’t deny his NSA ties, saying “I do not feel I have a conflict of interest that would prevent me from commenting on public policy issues related to national security. […] I have been very vocal in the past as to warning against the loss of civil freedoms”, but says that loss would be from the “reaction to the dangers we face in today’s world.” His statement sneakily switches the blame for domestic surveillance from the NSA to the public.

Think tanks help to shape opinions and drive policy, and the Center for Strategic and International Studies has been a major advocate of the “irreplaceable role” of surveillance in the American landscape. In May last year, CSIS issued a report, subtitled “Principles for Rebuilding Trust in Intelligence Activities”. This report disputes the fact that no terrorist attack has ever been thwarted through the sweeping communications surveillance program, calling that “perception […] wrong.” Of course, the center has good reason to do so. The government officials who released the report included CSIS president, John Hamre, who received nearly a quarter million dollars that year as a board member for NSA contractor Leidos. Former NSA director Mike McConnell was also partly responsible for that report, and at the time of its release, he was vice chairman of Booz Allen Hamilton. This is the same NSA contracting firm made famous when some of its documents were leaked by Edward Snowden.

Such stunning conflicts of interest reveal a frightening trend that has permeated every facet of life in the US: big business profit will always trump personal liberties in the eyes of the government. Once an avenue for raking in cash has been found, there is virtually nothing at our disposal to stop it. Since the exploitation of section 215 of the Patriot Act for collecting metadata was deemed illegal, there is a distinct threat to the livelihood of big surveillance businesses, and experts singing industry praises are their life preservers. It’s a guarantee. Therefore, that surveillance will continue, whether through deft policy handiwork or creative interpretation of existing legislation. The significance of the profit connection must be divulged to a public otherwise duped by the cloak of security. When military bases across the country raise their threat level right before the Patriot Act provisions are due for renewal, motives become transparent.

Everyone knows money talks, and now, more than ever, it’s watching, too.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - LIEDOS 'Extending Cyber Security Beyond the Network Perimeter'
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 06, 2017, 04:49:11 am



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 06, 2017, 05:31:46 am
Here's a little background on the 'vet' the corporate media is waving in front of us, who just happened to be staying below the 'so-called' gunman / patsy.  The rest of the story...


Many people work for MIC in some way. And why not find someone clean or maybe they want you to find the history that is found very easily? This is what is called "confirmation bias" possibly.

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'Q Stallion's of the board

OMG it is all to get you even your shadow :D




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 06, 2017, 05:36:08 am
https://liveleak.com/view?i=36c_1507085146

It's the last picture on that link.

The empty shells are on top of the coagulated blood glop with no blood on top of them.



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I think it has been replaced. I would like to see this picture if someone can find it.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 06, 2017, 06:08:19 am
I think it has been replaced. I would like to see this picture if someone can find it.



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Its being purged from the web.
Having had a second look, at the bullet cases, I can see why its being deleted.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - SAVE AS...
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 06, 2017, 06:13:12 am


Save As . . .

(http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/6056174_liveleakdotcom38b1507044572stephenpaddock1507044617_jpg_resized_jpeg5bef966cb5444fdf94e534e386ddf6d9)

(http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/6057030_59d47ab8ac004_jpeg4ce5fa244a021bed7cf93895caea4fe0)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 06, 2017, 07:11:45 am
RT
'I was looking crazy guy in the face' - Pizza delivery man supposedly last to see Vegas shooter













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 06, 2017, 11:54:54 am

Call me cynical, but the first thing I thought about the room service receipt for x 2 was a professional lady visitor.
Next it will be his coke dealer . . . .  :P


Family friend of Las Vegas shooter says the mass murderer's girlfriend felt 'nervous and jittery' around him and he would sleep with prostitutes offered by casinos
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4955002/Friend-Las-Vegas-shooter-says-used-free-prostitutes.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Mental Health of 'Patsy Shooter'
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 06, 2017, 11:57:31 am

Wonder if its true ?


Las Vegas shooter's girlfriend says he would 'SCREAM in bed at night' and investigators say he may have been in 'mental anguish' - but they STILL don't know why he murdered 58 people
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4953908/Las-Vegas-shooter-SCREAM-bed-night.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - David Icke : "Another Day, Another Horror: Who benefits ?2
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 06, 2017, 05:54:57 pm
Another Day, Another Horror: Who benefits? - The David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - SAVE AS...
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 06, 2017, 05:59:57 pm

Save As . . .



This ruined my dinner, but thanks for this.

I cannot conclude the story from this picture.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - SAVE AS...
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 06, 2017, 06:10:47 pm
This ruined my dinner, but thanks for this.

I cannot conclude the story from this picture.



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All I can suggest, is that you look a the brass bullet cases.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - SAVE AS...
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 06, 2017, 06:36:56 pm
All I can suggest, is that you look a the brass bullet cases.



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I can look and I know poseidonhost argument.

He lies flat but what position was he shot? (by him or other).

And why was this picture leaked? There are 100s of pictures (must be) but leaked this.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 06, 2017, 09:20:47 pm
Centerra-Nevada is a mid-size company with a diverse team of employees, most of whom are protective force members. Security personnel provide a broad range of services, from basic access control to complex security missions in support of the National Nuclear Security Administration. Partnering with some of America's finest businesses; Leidos, Longenecker and Associates, and Pro2Serve to deliver superior security services.
http://www.centerranevada.com

Was the Brian Hodge story put out to discredit the multiple reports (the night of on twitter) of hotel security (not police because they had not yet arrived) trying to apprehend a man dressed as a security guard, just before the shootings?
http://www.neon-nettle.com/news/2854-las-vegas-shooting-witnesses-report-multiple-gunmen-dressed-as-security-guards

It would have been easy to simply knock on Paddock's door claiming to be hotel security in order to get him to open his door in order to kill hm for the set up.

As I posted earlier GS4 (Wakenhut) also has a major operation set up in vegas



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 06, 2017, 09:23:09 pm

Call me cynical, but the first thing I thought about the room service receipt for x 2 was a professional lady visitor.
Next it will be his coke dealer . . . .  :P


Family friend of Las Vegas shooter says the mass murderer's girlfriend felt 'nervous and jittery' around him and he would sleep with prostitutes offered by casinos
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4955002/Friend-Las-Vegas-shooter-says-used-free-prostitutes.html



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a friend of a friend who knew the pizza delivery person said...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 06, 2017, 09:28:17 pm
[img]http://imgur.com/CpgVpUB[img]

This is other chance for this picture:-

Blue circle shell: The presence of this shell looks like interrupted flow of blood at end of flow, showing was there before blood flow.

Green circle shell: This looks in the blood not on the blood. Blood possibly flow to this and around (thicker flow to backfill).

Yellow circle shells: Thin stain spread under shells

Purple circle:- Is this part buried shell?

The picture is not concluded. What is your opinion?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 06, 2017, 09:33:50 pm
More on Leidos a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin
After the contract was awarded Friday, the agency learned Leidos Innovations Corp. had acquired NNS3T from Lockheed Martin, according to the statement. Leidos Innovations Corp. is part of Leidos Holdings, a Reston, Virginia, business that supports the U.S. intelligence community and military customers.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/military/us-revokes-5b-contract-to-operate-nevada-national-security-site/

Leidos & Lockheed both huge contractors in Nevada set to score big nation wide after shooting?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 07, 2017, 05:36:59 am

Call me cynical, but the first thing I thought about the room service receipt for x 2 was a professional lady visitor.
Next it will be his coke dealer . . . .  :P


Family friend of Las Vegas shooter says the mass murderer's girlfriend felt 'nervous and jittery' around him and he would sleep with prostitutes offered by casinos
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4955002/Friend-Las-Vegas-shooter-says-used-free-prostitutes.html



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8)

Hunt for Vegas killer's call-girl: Police say mystery woman seen with gunman before the massacre was a prostitute
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4957674/Vegas-killer-hired-prostitute-days-mass-shooting.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Malcolm Turnbull’s Facial Recognition Database
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 07, 2017, 05:52:49 am
The Face of Australia’s Surveillance: Malcolm Turnbull’s Facial Recognition Database
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-face-of-australias-surveillance-malcolm-turnbulls-recognition-database/5612239

'Never miss an opportunity in the security business. A massacre in Las Vegas has sent its tremors through the establishments, and made its way across the Pacific into the corridors of Canberra and the Prime Minister’s office. Australia’s Malcolm Turnbull is very keen to make hay out of blood, and has suggested another broadening of the security state: the creation of a national facial recognition data base.

It stands to reason. Energy policy is in a state of free fall. The government’s broadband network policy has proven disastrous, uneven, inefficient and costly. Australia is falling back in the ranks, a point that Turnbull dismisses as “rubbish statistics” (importantly showing that President Donald Trump is not the only purveyor of fanciful figures).

The Turnbull government is also in the electoral doldrums, struggling to keep up with a Labor opposition which has shown signs of breaking away into a canter. The only thing keeping this government in scourers and saucepans is the prospect that Turnbull is the more popular choice of prime minister.

Enter, then, the prism of the national interest, the chances afforded to his political survival by the safety industrial complex. Turnbull, a figure who, when in the law, stressed the importance of various liberties, is attempting to convince all the governments of Australia that terrorism suspects can be detained for periods of up to 14 days without charge. Lazy law enforcement officials, rejoice.'

Read more: The Face of Australia’s Surveillance: Malcolm Turnbull’s Facial Recognition Database (https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-face-of-australias-surveillance-malcolm-turnbulls-recognition-database/5612239)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 07, 2017, 06:02:08 am

OMG it is all to get you even your shadow :D



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Don't worry, Lizzie Trouble-Maker asserts all kinds of ridiculous stuff, and if you point it out, Lizzie will have a tantrum and call you an agent, or even better, will accuse you of working with ME lol.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: Q on Oct 07, 2017, 06:11:43 am
8)

Hunt for Vegas killer's call-girl: Police say mystery woman seen with gunman before the massacre was a prostitute
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4957674/Vegas-killer-hired-prostitute-days-mass-shooting.html



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"My Secret Lovechild with The Mandalay Murderer" coming soon from The Sun



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 07, 2017, 06:28:40 am
"My Secret Lovechild with The Mandalay Murderer" coming soon from The Sun



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wow

/me  makes dash to shop to buy The Sun



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: Brocke on Oct 07, 2017, 06:45:56 am
"My Secret Lovechild with The Mandalay Murderer" coming soon from The Sun



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Convicted RFK assassin Sirhan Sirhan says girl in polka-dot dress manipulated him

The papers point to a mysterious girl in a polka-dot dress as the controller who led Sirhan to fire a gun in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel. But the documents suggest a second person shot and killed Kennedy while using Sirhan as a diversion.
For the first time, Sirhan said under hypnosis that on a cue from the girl he went into "range mode" believing he was at a firing range and seeing circles with targets in front of his eyes...

https://masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/convicted_rfk_assassin_sirhan_sirhan_girl_polka-dot_dress.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 07, 2017, 06:52:45 am
Convicted RFK assassin Sirhan Sirhan says girl in polka-dot dress manipulated him

The papers point to a mysterious girl in a polka-dot dress as the controller who led Sirhan to fire a gun in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel. But the documents suggest a second person shot and killed Kennedy while using Sirhan as a diversion.
For the first time, Sirhan said under hypnosis that on a cue from the girl he went into "range mode" believing he was at a firing range and seeing circles with targets in front of his eyes...

https://masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/convicted_rfk_assassin_sirhan_sirhan_girl_polka-dot_dress.html



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Daily Telegraph

Bobby Kennedy assassin brainwashed by 'girl in polka dot dress'
The man convicted of assassinating Robert F. Kennedy in 1968 was brainwashed into shooting him by a mysterious girl in a polka dot dress, his lawyers have claimed.
By Andrew Osborn
2:01PM BST 29 Apr 2011
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8483148/Bobby-Kennedy-assassin-brainwashed-by-girl-in-polka-dot-dress.html

In a bizarre twist more than forty years after the high-profile killing, lawyers for Sirhan Sirhan, the Palestinian man convicted of the shooting, have submitted new evidence which they say shows their client was manipulated by the mystery girl and had no sense of what he was doing.

"I thought that I was at the (rifle) range more than I was shooting at any person, let alone Bobby Kennedy," Mr Sirhan told a hypnotist hired by his legal team to interview him about the murder. "I didn't know that I had a gun."

The papers, which have been filed in a federal court, suggest that Sirhan was used as a decoy and a second person actually shot and killed Kennedy.

The assassination of Bobby Kennedy at a hotel in Los Angeles on 5 June 1968 rocked the US political establishment, robbing the Democratic party of a promising presidential candidate and came just five years after his brother, President John F. Kennedy, was shot dead.

Now aged 67 and serving life in prison, Mr Sirhan is mounting a fresh attempt to portray himself as an innocent.

Under hypnosis, he said that a mystery girl had let him into the pantry of the hotel where the shooting had taken place and had pinched him on the shoulder, a gesture which he said had sent him into "range mode." In that mode, all he could see were circles with targets in front of his eyes as if he was on a firing range, he claimed. "I was fascinated with her looks," he said. "She never said much. It was very erotic. I was consumed by her. She was a seductress with an unspoken unavailability." Witnesses have spoken in the past of seeing a mystery girl running from the hotel shouting "We shot Kennedy" but she has never been identified.

Sirhan was denied parole in March by a panel that said he had not shown sufficient remorse for the killing.













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: Q on Oct 07, 2017, 07:03:15 am
Convicted RFK assassin Sirhan Sirhan says girl in polka-dot dress manipulated him

The papers point to a mysterious girl in a polka-dot dress as the controller who led Sirhan to fire a gun in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel. But the documents suggest a second person shot and killed Kennedy while using Sirhan as a diversion.
For the first time, Sirhan said under hypnosis that on a cue from the girl he went into "range mode" believing he was at a firing range and seeing circles with targets in front of his eyes...

https://masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/convicted_rfk_assassin_sirhan_sirhan_girl_polka-dot_dress.html



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Paddock was reported to have spent a lot of time in Vegas hotels - gambling, seeing prostitutes etc. If you've ever been to a Vegas hotel/casino, they are designed to be like a bubble and separated from reality - people report that the sense of time is lost, and even the sense of self. What better places to engage in mind control operations?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - The Trump False Flag Masonic Mafia Connection
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 07, 2017, 11:58:36 am
Looked interesting.

The Trump Las Vegas False Flag Masonic Mafia Connection, Because You Can Handle The Truth!

Edifying Others
Published on Oct 5, 2017

Remember a false flag is an attack by the ruling party on it's own people! Even an attack on the very people who voted for you, because the deceptive masons tell themselves that you would never expect it! As brainwashed Trump supporters never question anything, and just blindly support the president over a few carrots he throws at them. Who runs the ruling party now for 10 months? It only took Bush 9 months to run a BIGGER false flag in 9/11; and this Las Vegas shooting is in Trump's casino masonic mafia affiliation back yard. Then pawns are telling me he has nothing to do with it!

When will people wake up to the fact that Masons are Antichrist's and kill duped Christians that willfully give themselves over to their deceptions. Like these lukewarm cowboys and cowgirls in "sin city".

History has shown. The masonic hierarchy force drafted thousands and thousands of American Christian men to fight in World War 1 & 2. To slaughter them and sacrifice them for their antichrist Satanic masonic central banking agenda.

Think about what the mason and fake Christian Mike Pence said to the military recently. With respect to North Korea. See it documented by Edifying Others in the video below. He wants to slaughter them!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DttQ3... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DttQ3vRrPXM)

Also, if you think this false flag was big. Wait till Trump's McMaster mason kills millions with the fake North Korean war. As the Masonic media has already telegraphed-admitted, and Edifying Others documented below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iim7... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iim7Ifz9pA)

Moreover, The Masonic Clinton's who allowed controlled Muslims to killed hundreds of thousands of African Christians in the 1990's as they stood down. The Masonic Bush's who carried out 911 are anti true Christians. The Masonic Obama's who carried out false flags on a weekly basis are anti-Christian masonic new agers.

Now Trump, with his globalist Masonic Sabbatean affiliations and Bilderberg's in the white house, is clearly killing (lukewarm) Christians. People are still brainwashed by their masonic proxy pastors and fake news organizations that Trump is a baby Christian. With his Masonic TBN fake ministers Paula White, Rodney Howard Brown and 501c3 etc etc's. All Masonic hirelings he has associated himself with to dupe Christians into a false sense of security, that he is allied with them.

Their will be a cognitive dissonance uncomfortable feeling at first with those who are committed and sad to say brainwashed "Trump supporters," that willfully overlook his masonic lying endgame affiliations. They can get over that and desire the truth that is here.

Remember that all masonic lodges have their approval orders also from the British grand lodge in England. They are in on the deception. With the throne of England's desire to undo the US revolution, via their "1717" Masonry, and intelligence groups all coordinating the global Masonic agenda.

Yet with this video uploaded here to our main channel, our channel could be shut down. With fake censorship masonic communist youtube strikes. As Trump and his Masonic administration already shut down our youtube channel over exposing ISIS. Now we can see why. They wanted to continue the fraud of ISIS terrorism, and they could not have you remembering the historical record on who started ISIS, and what it is. We will speak the truth, and with your support they cannot stop us. Related Blog Post: https://steemit.com/dtube/@edifyingot... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=B1fxXa82hdo&redir_token=lHxucghBnEtndg8JGe01-RgV2oJ8MTUwNzQ4MTY5NUAxNTA3Mzk1Mjk1&event=video_description&q=https://steemit.com/dtube/@edifyingothers/8glz3og7)













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - The Trump False Flag Masonic Mafia Connection
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 07, 2017, 12:03:44 pm
The Times of Israel

Casino mogul Adelson met with Trump hours after Las Vegas shooting
Pre-arranged meeting was to review policy, but also looked at ways to help victims of massacre

https://www.timesofisrael.com/casino-mogul-adelson-met-with-trump-hours-after-las-vegas-shooting/



Las Vegas Review Journal
Adelsons meet with Trump, discuss Las Vegas shooting
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/adelsons-meet-with-trump-discuss-las-vegas-shooting/



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - (Truthstream Media) - "10 Characteristics of False Flags"
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 07, 2017, 12:24:47 pm
Re: Las Vegas - (Truthstream Media) - "10 Characteristics of False Flags"

Truthstream Media
Published on Oct 7, 2017













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 07, 2017, 02:58:13 pm
Just about every Las Vegas Casino security chief is ex FBI
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3656677/pg1

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/10/06/12/41/australian-man-adam-le-fevre-s-chilling-visit-to-stephen-paddock-s-home-gun-room

These may have been used in the Las Vegas attack - quad rotor equipped with machine gun
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3657570/pg1



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 07, 2017, 05:39:46 pm
Bush 9/11 - Defense contractors, oil, Rumsfeld, Iran-Contra, Mossad, etc.

Obama - fast and furious, southern North America revolutionaries, Eric Holder, Clinton ties

Trump - Casinos, New York/Atlantic City/ Vegas (stay away from Louisiana please) , unions, Italian/Jewish mafias

Idk, maybe y'all can expand on that, but seems to me like every president has his own brand of tyranny ready to go or come along with him. They would've helped them get into power and it comes with a price. The march towards world socialism continues. FORWARD



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 07, 2017, 06:41:18 pm
Don't exactly have to go far to reveal the hidden and lift the veil of secrecy. Yes, the details can at times be confusing and the quality of evidence often has much to be desired. Yet, one only has to look at the location to reveal the culprits behind the operation.

(http://www.vegasgoodbuys.com/_MVB/c/uploads/room_138-20160815944am-681.jpg)

(http://www.hotelrates.co/las-vegas-hotel-nightclub-deals/uploads/138-1024143202298.jpg)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Brocke on Oct 07, 2017, 06:44:08 pm
Eerie Predictions in Vegas... Cui Bono?











OSI, Chertoff, Adelson, Murren, backscatter scanners



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 07, 2017, 06:58:25 pm
Don't exactly have to go far to reveal the hidden and lift the veil of secrecy. Yes, the details can at times be confusing and the quality of evidence often has much to be desired. Yet, one only has to look at the location to reveal the culprits behind the operation.


I totally understand "why" and in the end "who," this week for me has been putting the two together, why and who with the players in the field of operations.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Jordan Peterson: Las Vegas Shooting and Gun Control
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Oct 08, 2017, 06:47:03 am
Jordan Peterson: Las Vegas Shooting and Gun Control

PhilosophyInsights
Published on Oct 4, 2017

Jordan B Peterson (born June 12, 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. In this clip he talks the Las Vegas Shooting especially from a psychological point of view and gun control.













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 08, 2017, 02:14:49 pm
The saga continues
From this article, sounds like Lee Harvey Paddock was an infowars fan
???


Daily Mail
'I was born bad': Las Vegas prostitute who romped with mass killer Stephen Paddock says he enjoyed violent rape fantasies as she reveals he boasted he had always been evil
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4959970/Vegas-prostitute-says-Stephen-Paddock-enjoyed-violent-sex.html

The 27-year-old woman said Paddock, 64, would often rant about conspiracy theories including how 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 08, 2017, 02:17:27 pm

Take with another large dose of salt


Stephen Paddock's fugitive father was a minister who married couples in Vegas, wanted to start his own church and set up a bingo parlor while on the lam
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4960254/Stephen-Paddock-s-father-wanted-start-church.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - slept with Prostitutes offered by Casinos
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 08, 2017, 04:04:35 pm
The saga continues
From this article, sounds like Lee Harvey Paddock was an infowars fan
???


Daily Mail
'I was born bad': Las Vegas prostitute who romped with mass killer Stephen Paddock says he enjoyed violent rape fantasies as she reveals he boasted he had always been evil
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4959970/Vegas-prostitute-says-Stephen-Paddock-enjoyed-violent-sex.html

The 27-year-old woman said Paddock, 64, would often rant about conspiracy theories including how 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government.



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Hahaha, so the globalists concocted a script where their complete patsy now gets to demonize and lump anyone who knows the FACT that 9/11 was a false flag, with someone who's likely to gun innocent people down for no reason with no motive.  What some pathetic cowardly f*ucks who come up with these ridiculously over the top transparent bullshit narratives.

If Paddock was going to kill anyone at all, he would have gunned down the architects of 9/11 and not innocent, random people. CFR members, Bilderberg members, stormed the National Reconnaissance office in Chantilly, VA, or stormed MITRE Corporation in Mcclean VA or Lexington, MA.  No one is aware of reality of who the real enemies are and then decides to wage war against the same innocent masses that the globalists themselves wage war against.  NO ONE commits such atrocities without an ABSOLUTELY LOGICAL MOTIVE, absence of such a REAL motive means the story is complete and UTTER Goddamned bullshit.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Jordan Peterson: Las Vegas Shooting and Gun Control
Post by: Brocke on Oct 08, 2017, 04:45:07 pm
Jordan Peterson: Las Vegas Shooting and Gun Control

PhilosophyInsights
Published on Oct 4, 2017

Jordan B Peterson (born June 12, 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. In this clip he talks the Las Vegas Shooting especially from a psychological point of view and gun control.




Thank you for that post. Dr Peterson is an amazing philosopher and champion of individual liberty.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Oct 09, 2017, 02:22:42 am












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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 09, 2017, 03:28:05 am
I am not buying the ground level shooter theme, but what do other people think ?

For starters, I'd be incredibly surprised if nobody in the crowd had a gun and got it out once being shot at !!!




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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Insider Trading and Financial Anomalies
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 09, 2017, 04:29:00 am
ZeroHedge
Insider Trading and Financial Anomalies Surrounding the Las Vegas Attack
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-08/insider-trading-and-financial-anomalies-surrounding-las-vegas-attack

Note: This is an update to my article of 10/7/17. Nothing has been removed or edited from the original article. This updated article includes additional financial/trading anomalies I have uncovered since posting the original piece.
Included in this updated article:

1) Additional trading research on OSIS (OSI Systems), the global leader in baggage, shipping and people detection systems (airports and now MUCH more, like hotels/casinos). Like the other 4 co’s that I have found, OSIS also began to rise on 9/11/17 (remember this date as you will see it in each company) and it rose on large share/option volume increases. The shares of OSIS would rise as much as 16% from its 9/11/17 lows to just after the attack.

2) OLN (Olin Corp) makes Winchester ammunition. Beginning on 9/11/17 their shares began to rise on a large increase in volume and a HUGE increase in call option purchases (so far I’ve found more than 6000 calls were purchased in OIH the week prior to the attack with someone making a ton of money in these calls). The shares of OLN would soar as much as 23% from their 9/11/17 lows to just after the attack.

Insider Trading and Financial Anomalies Surrounding the Las Vegas Attack

Note: With this report, I make no claim to specific knowledge of any wrongdoing or improprieties. Instead, this report includes trading patterns, news releases and/or public record SEC filings.

We will examine the share price movements of two gun manufacturers (American Outdoor Brands and Sturm Ruger) and the share price movement of MGM (which owns Mandalay Bay). We will also examine additional financial events surrounding MGM, including what can only be referred to as massive levels of insider selling in the shares of MGM, by the CEO/Chairman and MGM officers/directors. As you’ll see, more than $200 million in MGM shares were sold in the weeks leading up to the attack.

Background. Interesting Trading Patterns in AOBC, RGR and MGM.

Over the course of my 32 years in the investment industry I have constructed a proprietary investing model that I refer to as the “VRA Trading & Investing System”. In short, its design is to track money flows in the stock market and detect sector and stock analysis/movements that then alert me as to when/where money is flowing in the markets.

For example, prior to the 2016 Presidential Elections, the VRA System noticed that the share price of gun manufacturers had begun to decline rapidly. This was one of our first financial clues that Trump might beat Clinton (Trump’s strong support of 2A). As you can see below, American Outdoor Brands (AOBC, formerly Smith & Wesson), hit a high of $31/share in August of 2016. As the bottom began to fall out, it would ultimately drop 55% in price, before hitting its low price of just over $13 on 9/11/17.

The market is referred to as a “discounting mechanism” and as such, it often predicts future events. It certainly did so in the case of the election and the share price of AOBC.

(http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/10/AOBC.png)

We see the same trading pattern in gun manufacturer Sturm Ruger (RGR). RGR traded as high as $73 in March of 2016 before ultimately dropping 37%, when it too bottomed within one trading day of AOBC hitting it’s lows (9/8/17). Again, my system noted the rapid decline in gun stocks, which led me to believe that Trump may in fact win the election. Remember this point; both AOBC and RGR hit their lows at the same time, just over two weeks prior to the Las Vegas shooting.

(http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/10/RGR.png)

Something Changed in September

Let’s now examine the trading patterns of AOBC and RGR in detail, just over two weeks “prior” to the attack. As you can see, AOBC bottomed on 9/11/17 at $13.30 before the spike higher began. From 9/11 to just after the attack, AOBC rose 23% in price. It did so on a noticeable increase in buy-side trading volumes.

(http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/10/AOBC-2.png)

Below, we see the same chart and reaction in the shares of Sturm Ruger (RGR). From its 9/8/17 lows, RGR bottomed at $46.24 and then spiked to $55.90 just after the attack, for a move higher of 21%.

(http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/10/RGR2.png)



After falling in price from early-mid 2016 to their early September 2017 lows, the two largest publicly traded gun manufacturers bottomed, then spiked higher, at almost exactly the same time. In addition, buy-side volume increases rose sharply as well.And, while not covered in this report (more work is needed), we also saw a spike in call option purchases in both AOBC and RGR, in the days/weeks leading up to the attack.

This final chart shows the share price of MGM (owner of Mandalay Bay) in the days leading up to the attack to present. MGM shares declined more than 10%, from 9/7/17 to recent lows. This decline occurred as some $200 million in insider selling was taking place.

(http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/10/MGM2.png)



Bottom line: Beginning in early-mid September to this report, gun manufactures AOBC and RGR rose in price 23% and 21% (on higher trading volumes), while the shares of MGM fell in price by 11% (as $200 million in insider selling occurred).

MGM: Heavy Levels of Insider Selling

As the SEC insider transaction reports below detail, from 9/5/17 to 9/12/17, approximately 6 million shares of MGM were sold by officers and/or directors of the company, totaling approximately $200 million in proceeds to sellers. Included in this group is the selling of approximately 450,000 shares by MGM CEO and Chairman James Murren (a seller of size since late July) and who appears to have sold more than 85% of all holdings. We also see that MGM Board member Grounds William Warwick sold 176 million shares of his MGM stock on 9/6/17.

(http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/10/Screen-Shot-2017-10-07-at-11.54.53-AM-1.png)



We have no indication that MGM insiders sold these 6 million shares due to any advance knowledge of the 10/1 attack. I am not making that claim. I am simply pointing out facts that cannot be in question.

But I will make a few observations:

1) If MGM/Mandalay Bay were to lose law suits associated with this attack, the downside risks to MGM share price may be extensive.

2) We also know that MGM CEO James Murren was appointed to the Homeland Security National Infrastructure Advisory Council by President Obama in December 2013. This fact could make for some interesting depositions, as it relates to exactly what type of advanced security systems Mandalay Bay had in place, leading up to and on the night of 10/1/17.

“The National Infrastructure Advisory Council is tasked with providing the president with advice on the “security of the critical infrastructure sectors and their information systems.” The council is composed of a maximum of 30 members, appointed by the president, from private industry, academia and state and local government.”

3) I am also aware of the fact that MGM put options activity spiked as well (needs more work), beginning at the same time gun stocks were rising and MGM was falling in price.

4) For those curious about the trading in other major Las Vegas Hotel casino stocks, during this same time frame, this also needs more work. However, I can report that at the same time MGM’s share price was falling, the share prices of Las Vegas Sands (LVS) and Wynn Resorts (WYNN) were actually rising.

There’s more…like the recent trading pattern in OSIS, which makes “detection systems” of all kinds (similar to their subsidiary “Rapiscan”, which makes the TSA body scanners that were put in place following 9/11). Many are wondering how long it might be before we are forced to walk through similar devices, as we enter hotels/casinos.

In my original piece I only mentioned OSI Systems (OSIS) and their trading pattern around the Las Vegas attack. I’m updating this to include the chart from the same time frame and additional comments.

Below is the chart of OSIS. From the lows of 9/11/17 to after the attack, the shares of OSIS have jumped 16%. In addition (more work is being done here), call option volume also spiked higher, 2 weeks before the attack.

I have also confirmed that OSIS is working on plans to place their baggage/people detection systems in hotels/casinos around the world. Deepak Chopra is the CEO and Founder of OSIS.

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user237925/imageroot/2017/09/20/1-oAznXkYqsF8gwSSuXvQqwA.png)

Here’s another interesting piece to the puzzle. Olin Corp (OIH) makes Winchester ammunition (among other things). Beginning on 9/11/17 their shares began to rise on a large increase in volume and a HUGE increase in call option purchases (so far I’ve found more than 6000 calls were purchased in OIH the week prior to the attack. Someone is making a ton of money in these calls). The shares of OLN would soar as much as 23% from their 9/11/17 lows to just after the attack.

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user237925/imageroot/2017/09/20/1-L-FZvcU6CdLqLMqugVacTw.png)

I am also including the anonymous 4 chan post (below) that everyone is talking about. As I see it, these are (among) the 5 publicly traded companies that the planner of the Las Vegas attack would want to target. It is most interesting that each of these stocks began their moves on 9/11/17, just one day after the 4chan post. This is what we know after less than 1 week after the attack. What might we know in another week?

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user237925/imageroot/2017/09/20/1-bioZ4bv89Ybzon0_zhdKhg.png)

Closing:

In closing, let me repeat; I make no claims or assertions that anyone mentioned in this piece has done anything nefarious. They likely did not.

The question I might ask is, “Did someone else profit from the heinous acts of 10/1/17? Possibly the planners?”

Like many of you, I am interested and I am asking questions. I also remember that during 9/11/01, reports surfaced widely in the financial media that “many, many millions” in profits were made off of the purchase of put options in the shares of United Airlines and American Airlines, the two airliners that operated the four aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (among other well-documented reports of large put option purchases in numerous companies that had the most exposure to a shocked US economy).

There’s more…like the recent trading pattern in OSIS, which makes “detection systems” of all kinds (similar to their subsidiary “Rapiscan”, which makes the TSA body scanners that were put in place following 9/11). Many are wondering how long it might be before we are forced to walk through similar devices, as we enter hotels/casinos.

I will continue to follow this story. Should you have information that might assist in my research, you can reach me at kip@vraletter.com.

I am a proud American. I want the best for our country. Wherever the truth leads us, that is where we must go. Follow the money.

Kip Herriage

VRALetter.com
(http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/10/unnamed-4.png)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas: Cryptic Note, Impossible Planted Rifle, Swipe Of A Key Card..
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 09, 2017, 05:18:06 am
Las Vegas Shooting: A Cryptic Note, Impossible Planted Rifle And Swipe Of A Key Card That Doesn’t Add Up

https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/las-vegas-shooting-cryptic-note-planted-rifle-key-card-doesnt-add-up.html

(https://admin62b4b.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/las-vegas-questions-1024x533.jpg)

'There are holes galore over the official narrative of the Las Vegas shooting; even police are starting to admit that a single gunman could not have been responsible for the plot. It’s way too sophisticated, far too many people died and were injured, while the motive hasn’t been determined thus far. Too much doesn’t add up. It seems like every day we are given more questions than answers as evidence begins to drip out. Now a cryptic note with numbers has been disclosed by authorities.

It has almost been a week since one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history but investigators, journalists, and armchair investigators are all left confused by what transpired in Las Vegas. There are so many theories, in fact, that YouTube has now tweaked its algorithm to protect you from questioning the official narrative, while regurgitating the mainstream media as an “authoritative source,” The Wall Street Journal reported.

Quote
“In response to criticism on social media of some search results this week, a person familiar with YouTube said the company is accelerating the rollout of planned changes to its search engine. On Wednesday night, the video service began promoting more authoritative sources in search results, especially pertaining to major news events, the person said. YouTube doesn’t disclose how it determines which sources are authoritative,” YouTube wrote in a statement.

The unthinkable, a shooting of a peaceful gathering for music interrupted by pelted gunfire which took the lives of 60 and injured hundreds of others. Perpetrated by the perfect criminal, a rich 64-year-old former accountant and real estate investor addicted to gambling who could afford 23 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition for all of those firearms.'

Read more: Las Vegas Shooting: A Cryptic Note, Impossible Planted Rifle And Swipe Of A Key Card That Doesn’t Add Up (https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/las-vegas-shooting-cryptic-note-planted-rifle-key-card-doesnt-add-up.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 09, 2017, 08:27:32 am
Very interesting narrative by the Las Vegas police considering it took an hour to breach the door according to the official time line.  In addition the article hints that Paddock set up surveillance system but of course we are told there is no video. 

_____________________________ _____________________________ ____________
Las Vegas police officers describe storming gunman's room

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/us/las-vegas-shooting-response/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/us/las-vegas-shooting-response/index.html)

An improvised team of Las Vegas police officers -- two K-9 officers, a detective and a SWAT team member -- converged on the
Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino on October 1, as Stephen Paddock was firing into a crowd of 22,000 concertgoers. Minutes later, they breached the gunman's hotel room door.

It was specialized training that allowed them to act so quickly, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo told CBS' 60 Minutes.

"I think they prevented a thousand deaths, and I think it's important for the American public to understand that," Lombardo said Sunday.

Lombardo had traveled to Mumbai, India after the November 2008 terrorist attacks on hotels and other sites that left 164 dead. The sheriff gleaned insight from the trip, he said, and the department now reacts faster to such shootings, quickly forming a team to "cease the action'' of the assailant on their own.


"Before we were trained to form a perimeter and hope for the best," Lombardo said. "Now we're trained to gather up and go get it."

Detective Matthew Donaldson was doing paperwork last weekend when calls went out on the radio reporting an active shooter. He jumped in a car and drove nine miles to the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, he said in the interview with 60 Minutes.

Donaldson ran the last few blocks to the hotel, he said -- but he ditched the cowboy boots he was wearing in the casino, because they hurt his feet. "I was faster barefoot and I was going to be more effective barefoot," he said.

Not far away, K-9 officers Dave Newton and Sgt. Joshua Bitsko were training dogs when they heard the radio call.

"I just yelled to these guys, 'let's go. There is an active shooter," Bitsko recalled saying. The pair drove to the scene.
At the hotel, they met up with Levi Hancock, a SWAT officer who was armed with explosives, and zeroed in on the 32nd floor, where other officers had pinpointed shooting. Bitsko thought there might have been more than one gunman.
By that time, Paddock had shot through the door at Jesus Campos, a Mandalay Bay security officer who had gone to respond to an alarm, striking him in the leg. Police said that Paddock stopped firing on the crowd after Campos approached his door.

'Hurry but be quiet'

The four-man team found the stairwell door to Paddock's hallway barricaded.

"He had screwed shut the door with a piece of metal and some screws in the stairwell going out to the hallway right by his door," Bitsko recalled.

The SWAT officer used a pry bar to pop the door open, Newton said.

Down the hall, the door to Paddock's room was riddled with bullet holes.

"It looked like Swiss cheese," Newton said.

The SWAT team member quietly set explosives to blow open the door, hoping not to arouse the shooter's suspicions, said Newton.
"Hurry, hurry -- hurry but be quiet," Newton remembered saying.

They didn't know where Paddock was in the room. Bitsko said was like a "deadly game of hide and seek."

"I remember thinking, man, I wish I had my dog with me, because it's nice to have him lead the team," Bitsko said.

"Breach. Breach. Breach," someone said on the police radio.

The explosion set off alarms. The door was open, and the group swarmed the room..

Inside, the officers found drills and other tools, drill bits, phones and laptops, guns and ammunition. They also discovered Paddock's body.

The room smelled like gunpowder, Bitsko recalled.

"We were tripping over guns," he said.

Authorities recovered 23 guns from Paddock's room, police said.

In the room, the officers also found a handwritten note with calculations of distance and trajectory from his window to the crowd below, Newton said.

Authorities have received more than 1,000 tips, but are still struggling to determine what motivated Paddock, who didn't have a criminal record, to carry out the carefully planned attack.

"He had tool boxes and power tools to run wires for his surveillance system. Everything that he had, it took him days to finish," Bitsko said.







Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 09, 2017, 11:17:26 am

In addition the article hints that Paddock set up surveillance system but of course we are told there is no video.


I read somewhere, and I think it was in the Sheriff press conference, that what Lee Harvey Paddock used was stuff sold as Baby Monitors which stream live and do not record by default. I also pretty sure all the cameras where angled to look the wrong way, as in looking into the hall or down the hall - to spot the cops.

This does not explain the lack of Surveillance CCTV.

Secondly, 'big spending' gamblers get special treatment. We already know Lee Harvey Paddock had been selected by the Casino for that special category when he got the complementary hotel rooms. That means he got special surveillance, not just the regular observation, but would have had specialist staff assigned as he was a "Whale".

One of the most infamous locations in the world for surveillance by the notorious Vegas Casino Security, and he got singled out for specialist surveillance and not one second of CCTV has been made public.

It don't add up.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 10, 2017, 01:45:48 am

Contains many new and corrected details - from the Sheriff.


RT
Las Vegas shooter fired at fuel tanks as part of escape plan, sheriff says
https://www.rt.com/usa/406194-las-vegas-shooter-escape-drill/



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 10, 2017, 10:53:07 pm
Police / corporate media change 'Hero' narrative / timeline on Vegas shooting Alt media confused asking why.  I can tell you why.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/meet-iraq-war-veteran-who-led-police-vegas-shooter

About face march...
https://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/428266006-Security-officer-who-located-Vegas-shooter-kept-helping-cops-after-being-shot/
https://apnews.com/478898b90b15427daaffd06d01269755/Sheriff:-Vegas-gunman-aimed-at-fuel-tanks-as-diversion

The alt media is scratching their collective heads trying to figure out why such a significant part of the 'official' narrative, and more importantly, 'timeline' was well, shall we say, rewritten.  The alt media putting out the 'idea' that this story and timeline 'falsification' is being put out by "law enforcement officials" to protect the Vegas Sheriff maybe 10% correct but, is actually more like 90% incorrect

Here is why one narrative had to be scrapped, while a completely new 'HERO' narrative had to be 'created' on (this) Monday.

Once the intelligence (online) 'bots' discovered (over at Leidos?) that it was made public Chris Bethel is linked to a major (yet unknown to most) intelligence / military / clandestine corporation whose services would not only greatly aid in such a false flag, but most likely benefit directly from it, there is no doubt those running the false flag did NOT want armies of people to learn this fact about one of the operation's most celebrated heroes.

A 'new' meme of "helping police" locate 'the shooter' had to be quickly put out over the net to direct online traffic away from the Chris Bethel intelligence / clandestine connection.

However, it doesn't take Columbo to easily see that the guard shot narrative is also most likely a fake story as well.  If this guard would have been shot 'before' the shootings into the crowd, as the 'new narrative' suggests, than that would have come over the police audio (scanner) tapes.

Nothing came over the police audio recording in regards to anyone shot in the hotel, only concert goers.  If people were being shot in the hotel as well, especially a guard, that would have been relayed to police pronto.

What I find interesting is that the 'official' narrative have police 'supposedly' leading concert goers to areas that made the crowd easier targets, this 'narrative' isn't exactly true either.  According to the police scanner audio recordings, and multiple twitter posts, concert goers were forced on their own to flee into 'open season' areas (because of exits barricaded) and there were absolutely no police at the concert when the shooting started.   Had there actually been police at the concert, they would have been the first on the scanner not only asking for backup, but directing the backup on where to take a position.  Scanner audio clearly have police arriving AFTER the shooting begins.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Don't Mention The New World Order
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 11, 2017, 01:48:32 am
Don't Mention The New World Order

Seems to me that the blame for the shooting is going anywhere except "The New World Order".

Imagine if we had President Hillary, and that Hillary owned a Casino in Vegas.
Yea, just pause long enough to imagine if she was the current President, really... plz imagine.

Now look how the Fake Alt Media is doing anything and everything except dump on Trump as yet another New World Order minion.

Does it not seem a wee bit daft ?

Trump, Casino, Mafia, Yakuza Murder, and The Banks.














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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Mike Adams on multiple shooters forensic evidence.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 11, 2017, 07:50:56 am
Mike Adams on multiple shooters evidence.

Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas massacre













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 11, 2017, 03:32:04 pm
New timeline in Vegas shooting raises questions on police response

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/timeline-vegas-shooting-raises-questions-police-response-210304061--finance.html

By Tim Reid and Alex Dobuzinskis

Quote

(Reuters) - Las Vegas police faced new questions on Tuesday about their response to this month's mass shooting after a county sheriff disclosed the gunman shot a security guard before, not after, opening fire on a crowd below his window at the Mandalay Bay hotel.

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department spokesman Aden Ocampo-Gomez said the office will respond later to questions involving police response time to the shooting that killed dozens of people at an outdoor concert.

On Monday, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo disclosed that gunman Stephen Paddock shot a hotel security guard responding to a door alarm near his 32nd-floor suite six minutes before he began firing out his window. Officials initially said Paddock shot the security guard after he began raining bullets down on the crowd.

"What we have learned is (the security guard) was encountered by the suspect prior to his shooting to the outside world," Lombardo said.

Paddock, 64, killed 58 people and injured hundreds, before fatally shooting himself as police responded. Nine days later, his motive remained a mystery.

Lombardo did not address whether the mass shooting could have been prevented based on the new timeline, but said it was unclear why Paddock stopped firing on the concert.

In an active shooter situation, response time can be as fast as three minutes, said Sid Heal, a retired Los Angeles Sheriff's Department commander and tactical expert. He questioned why it took police so long to reach the room if hotel security immediately called them.

"Someone needs to account for those minutes," he said.

Nevada Lt. Governor Mark Hutchison told CNN on Tuesday that there was a lot of information to evaluate, but acknowledged that Paddock did not stop firing because of the guard, Jesus Campos, as was initially assumed.

Campos immediately alerted the hotel's in-house security team after he was shot at 9:59 p.m., Lombardo said.

Police were not aware Campos had been shot until they met him in the hallway at 10:18 p.m., three minutes after Paddock had stopped firing on the concert. Police blew open Paddock's hotel room door 81 minutes after the shooting started.

Protocol for Las Vegas hotels and casinos is to barricade the corridor where a shooting takes place and wait for police to arrive, said David Shepherd, a security expert who advises the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and who ran the security team at The Venetian hotel on the Vegas Strip for eight years.

Police are trained to wait and negotiate with a shooter, rather than storm the room immediately, he said. The initial reports that night of multiple shooters at several hotels would also have confused police, he added.

"One of the biggest priorities is not to lose the life of a police officer," Shepherd said by telephone. "So in those six minutes, it is highly unlikely police would have stormed that room."

David Hickey, the president of the union that represents Campos, said that based on what he had heard, police and security officers acted as quickly as possible under the circumstances. Officials with MGM Resorts International, which owns the Mandalay Bay, declined to comment.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 11, 2017, 05:22:50 pm
NWO Media using Las Vegas (and other) to promote Leidos type 'SOFT TARGET' scanners and face recognition as a part of the 'solution'.
http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2308.msg13867#msg13867

The above is only the tip of the iceberg for calls for such technology to be placed everywhere.  In the name of security of course.

The phrase 'Soft Target' appeared at the Council on Foreign relations website before the gun smoked cleared in Las Vegas Nevada.  My hunch is that this new globalist tactic of targeting 'Soft Target' areas will 'trend upward' until we live in a society were you will need to be face scanned and screened (by Leidos equipment software) in order to buy a six pack of beer at the grocery store once it's all said and done.



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BTW- There was 1984 views on this thread at the time of this post.  Quite poetic. lol



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 11, 2017, 05:53:30 pm
Vegas FF 'Official Narrative' folding like a lawn chair as multiple witness video and testimony clearly tell a story of multiple shooters

Witness To Bellagio Hotel Shooting 45 Min After Mandalay Bay Massacre Speaks Out (you can disregard video once Alex Jones appears)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=323&v=cN1fzXK5SnY

skip forward 5 mins approx










Rene Downs timestamped the sounds of automatic gunfire to just after 11pm, a full 45 minutes after shooting ended at the Mandalay Bay.
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Just a quick note, and you maybe surprised.  The 'Multiple Shooters' narrative (which is what appears to be what actually happened) actually 'benefits' the orwell agenda these operations are intended to produce.

I'm putting money on Trump coming out and (at first) hinting that there was more than one shooter, and do his best Rudy Giuliani imitation repeating "terror, terror, terror mass shootings, organized terrorists...  and that their will be a push by the 'so-called' Trump right to move us closer to a Biometric, scanners, papers please brave new world



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Don't Mention The New World Order
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 11, 2017, 06:03:47 pm

Imagine if we had President Hillary, and that Hillary owned a Casino in Vegas.
Yea, just pause long enough to imagine if she was the current President, really... plz imagine.




He's going to be much more effective than Hillary in both gun control and bringing in a 'Full Spectrum Dominance' police state.

You of all people should remember that it was me who knew Trump would be a 'crisis' president.  You should also remember that the thread I started over at PPF included Trump's statements posted that fully supported a type of gun control where only 'special people' (think TSA PreCheck) would be allowed to own guns.  This is an easy sell to the Trump Right who will view Trump's gun list to ONLY include middle easterners.  (Hence the Paddock converted to Muslim narrative  ::))

Don't forget Trump is fully vested in the super surveillance state.  For these reasons Trump will get the 'Right' moved closer to accepting both gun restrictions and surveillance than Hillary would have ever dreamed possible.

BTW- More of these SOFT TARGET 'operations' are ahead for the American people and the western world.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - WeAreChange
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 11, 2017, 07:07:32 pm
The FBI and Las Vegas Police are LYING!

WeAreChange
Published on Oct 11, 2017
Jason Bermas exposes two of the major lies being told about the event at that took place in Sin City by both the Las Vegas Police and the FBI.

Visit our MAIN SITE for more breaking news http://wearechange.org/













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 11, 2017, 07:59:51 pm
Police / corporate media change 'Hero' narrative / timeline on Vegas shooting Alt media confused asking why.  I can tell you why.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/meet-iraq-war-veteran-who-led-police-vegas-shooter

About face march...
https://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/428266006-Security-officer-who-located-Vegas-shooter-kept-helping-cops-after-being-shot/
https://apnews.com/478898b90b15427daaffd06d01269755/Sheriff:-Vegas-gunman-aimed-at-fuel-tanks-as-diversion

The alt media is scratching their collective heads trying to figure out why such a significant part of the 'official' narrative, and more importantly, 'timeline' was well, shall we say, rewritten.  The alt media putting out the 'idea' that this story and timeline 'falsification' is being put out by "law enforcement officials" to protect the Vegas Sheriff maybe 10% correct but, is actually more like 90% incorrect

Here is why one narrative had to be scrapped, while a completely new 'HERO' narrative had to be 'created' on (this) Monday.

Once the intelligence (online) 'bots' discovered (over at Leidos?) that it was made public Chris Bethel is linked to a major (yet unknown to most) intelligence / military / clandestine corporation whose services would not only greatly aid in such a false flag, but most likely benefit directly from it, there is no doubt those running the false flag did NOT want armies of people to learn this fact about one of the operation's most celebrated heroes.

A 'new' meme of "helping police" locate 'the shooter' had to be quickly put out over the net to direct online traffic away from the Chris Bethel intelligence / clandestine connection.

However, it doesn't take Columbo to easily see that the guard shot narrative is also most likely a fake story as well.  If this guard would have been shot 'before' the shootings into the crowd, as the 'new narrative' suggests, than that would have come over the police audio (scanner) tapes.

Nothing came over the police audio recording in regards to anyone shot in the hotel, only concert goers.  If people were being shot in the hotel as well, especially a guard, that would have been relayed to police pronto.

What I find interesting is that the 'official' narrative have police 'supposedly' leading concert goers to areas that made the crowd easier targets, this 'narrative' isn't exactly true either.  According to the police scanner audio recordings, and multiple twitter posts, concert goers were forced on their own to flee into 'open season' areas (because of exits barricaded) and there were absolutely no police at the concert when the shooting started.   Had there actually been police at the concert, they would have been the first on the scanner not only asking for backup, but directing the backup on where to take a position.  Scanner audio clearly have police arriving AFTER the shooting begins.



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MGM Resorts disputes Las Vegas police timeline of mass shooting (Yeah, I bet they do)
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/mgm-resorts-disputes-las-vegas-police-timeline-of-mass-shooting/

“This remains an ongoing investigation with a lot of moving parts,” MGM Resorts spokeswoman Debra DeShong said in the statement, released late Tuesday. “As evidenced by law enforcement briefings over the past week, many facts are still unverified and continue to change as events are under review. We cannot be certain about the most recent timeline that has been communicated publically, (sic) and we believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate.”



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 11, 2017, 11:13:38 pm
James J. Murren, also known as Jim Murren, is Chairman and CEO of MGM Resorts International, headquartered in Paradise, Nevada. He is a member of Homeland Security’s National Infrastructure Advisory Council.

Paddock Former Lockheed Martin (and Ledios? See Below) employee.  Did Chris Bethel (former Lockheed) know (and set up) patsy Paddock that night?
http://www.abeldanger.org/department-of-homeland-insecurity-dhs-prime-contractors-mgm-stocks-descend-while-osi-systems-stock-ascends/

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND INSECURITY (DHS) PRIME CONTRACTORS – MGM STOCKS DESCEND WHILE OSI SYSTEMS (and like) STOCK ASCENDS

The National Infrastructure Advisory Council (NIAC) is a United States government advisory council, which advises the President of the United States on the security of information systems in banking, finance, transportation, energy, manufacturing, and emergency government services. James J. Murren is a board member of the Department of Homeland Security’s National Infrastructure Advisory Council. The Department of Homeland Security is building out a massive security infrastructure control grid in America and all these Department of Homeland Security contracted companies listed below are being coordinated and invested in through private equity funds with the Chertoff Group.

Prime Contractors
The list below provides information on large business Prime Contractors who are interested in subcontracting with small, small and disadvantaged, women-owned small, HUBZone-certified, 8(a), veteran-owned small, and service-disabled veteran-owned small businesses.

To determine if opportunities exist for your company, we recommend you prepare yourself as follows:

Research the company by reviewing the column “In Search Of” to determine if there might be a match;
Visit each prime contractors’ website to learn more about the company;
If the company requires businesses to register in their Supplier Registration database, do so (it is very likely that the Prime will ask if you’ve been to their site and registered in their supplier database);
Send an email to the contact listed for each Prime informing them of your interest in being considered for subcontracting opportunities. Briefly explain how you believe you can assist the Prime (be specific and tie your experience/capabilities to their needs).
If you have the opportunity to meet with a Prime, be prepared, and most important, be on time.
If they ask you to follow-up with additional information, do so.

Good luck in your efforts to do business with DHS Prime Contractors.

The Department of Homeland Security has established department-wide contracts for Information Technology (IT) services and commodities. These procurements are being managed by the Office of Procurement Operations (OPO) in cooperation with the Chief Information Officer (CIO) and the Component IT and procurement communities. For information on the companies that were awarded contracts and their teaming coordinators please access the ITAC Website.

Accenture
Alion Science and Technology Corporation
AMR Office of Emergency Management
Atkins

BAE Systems Intelligence & Security
Michael Chertoff is the Chairman of the Board of Directors of BAE Systems, Inc., the U.S.-based subsidiary of BAE Systems plc. The U.S. headquartered business employs approximately 32,000 employees in the U.S., UK, Sweden, and Israel, and generated 2016 sales of approximately $10 billion.
http://www.baesystems.com/en-us/our-company/about-us/bae-systems-inc/inc-board-of-directors/michael-chertoff

Battelle National Biodefense Institute, LLC
BI Incorporated
The Boeing Company
Booz Allen Hamilton
CACI Federal, Inc.
CDM Smith
CH2M
Comprehensive Health Services, Inc. (CHSi)
Covenant Aviation Security, LLC
CSRA
Deloitte Services LP
Dewberry
Ernst & Young LLP
FJC Security Services, Inc.
Fluor Government Group
G4S Government Solutions
General Dynamics Information Technology
The Geo Group
Grant Thornton, LLP
Grunley Construction Company, Inc.
Harris IT Services
The Haskell Company
HP Enterprise Services
IBM US Federal
ICF International
Ingalls Shipbuilding
Jacobs Engineering Group, Inc.
Knight Point Systems
Korte Construction Company
Leidos
Leo A Daly

Lockheed Martin – Information Systems & Global Solutions
Enter the “Patsy” Stephen Paddock. Paddock also worked as an accountant for a company associated with the largest defense contractor on the planet, Lockheed Martin (That would most likely be LEIDOS). A spokesman for Lockheed Martin refused to say exactly which company Paddock worked for.

Mantech International, Inc.
Marinette Marine Corporation
Michael Baker Jr., Inc.
Morpho Detection, Inc.
Mortenson
Motorola Solutions, Inc.
Northrop Grumman Information Systems
Partnership for Temporary Housing (PATH)
Robbins-Gioia, LLC
SAIC



Serco, Inc.
Partner Relations Director: Darryl Scott
darryl.scott@serco-na.com
Website: www.serco-na.com/
Contracts: http://www.serco-na.com/contracts
In Search of:
Biometrics
Big Data Analytics
Case Management for Investigations and Law Enforcement
Cyber and Information Systems Security
Logistics and Supply Chain Management
Software/Web Development



Shaw Environmental and Infrastructure, Inc.
Sirva Relocations, LLC
Skanska USA Building, Inc.
UNISYS
Vencore, Inc.
VF Imagewear
VSE Corporation
World Wide Technologies, Inc.
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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Hotel Freight Elevator, His Reno Home Was Broken Into !!
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 12, 2017, 05:01:22 am
ZeroHedge

Vegas Shooter Used Hotel Freight Elevator, His Reno Home Was Broken Into

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-11/las-vegas-shooter-fired-special-incendiary-bullets-jet-fuel-tank

'More than a week after Stephen Paddock carried out the deadliest mass shooting in US history, Las Vegas Police and the FBI still have few clues about what motivated the millionaire semi-retired professional gambler to murder 59 people, and – perhaps more disturbing – no idea why he ended his reign of terror after just 11 minutes.

On Monday, police “updated the narrative” for the shooting, admitting that a Mandalay Bay security guard who had been shot in the leg by Paddock was shot before – not after – Paddock carried out the deadly assault. Previously, authorities had maintained that the guard, Jesus Campos, had been responsible for stopping the attack. Now, they’re saying Paddock shot Campos through his door after detecting him on cameras he had set up in the hall – a full six minutes before Paddock started raining bullets on the crowd below.

Unsurprisingly given the public’s voracious appetite for news about the investigation, more details emerged early Wednesday, when it was revealed that Paddock had used the freight elevator at Mandalay Bay in the days ahead of the attack. And in the latest sign that Paddock had hoped to maximize casualties during his rampage, police have revealed that fired special ‘incendiary’ bullets at a jet fuel tank, probably in the hopes of causing a massive explosion. Authorities had said earlier that he fired two conventional rounds at the tank, but failed to penetrate it.'

READ MORE
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-11/las-vegas-shooter-fired-special-incendiary-bullets-jet-fuel-tank



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 12, 2017, 05:02:56 am
UN-RELIABLE SOURCE

Mandalay Bay Owner: ‘What’s being expressed (by police) may not be accurate’

https://www.prisonplanet.com/mandalay-bay-owner-whats-being-expressed-by-police-may-not-be-accurate.html

'The owners of the Mandalay Bay resort and casino are questioning Las Vegas police’s version of events, after law enforcement accounts of how a deadly mass shooting played out changed dramatically Monday.

An MGM Resorts International spokeswoman divulged on Tuesday the company isn’t confident in the story being conveyed to the public, stating “what is currently being expressed may not be accurate.”

“We cannot be certain about the most recent timeline that has been communicated publicly, and we believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate,” the statement from MGM spokeswoman Debra DeShong said in full.

A source close to the investigation disputed the hotel’s contention, telling CNN, “Our timeline is pretty accurate with all the facts known.”

The hotel’s brief statement comes as Las Vegas police altered their timeline of how the shooting last weekend happened, now claiming a security guard who distracted gunman Stephen Paddock was shot six minutes before he began unloading into a crowd at a country music festival.

“Investigators previously said that the security guard was shot after Paddock had already spent 10 minutes firing into the crowd of concertgoers gathered below the hotel,” reports the Los Angeles Times.'

Read more:Mandalay Bay Owner: ‘What’s being expressed (by police) may not be accurate’ (https://www.prisonplanet.com/mandalay-bay-owner-whats-being-expressed-by-police-may-not-be-accurate.html)



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Title: Audio Released Of Hotel Worker Warning Of Shooter BEFORE Vegas Mass Massacre
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 12, 2017, 05:08:27 am
Activist Post

Audio Released Of Hotel Worker Warning Of Shooter BEFORE Vegas Massacre
https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/audio-released-hotel-worker-warning-shooter-vegas-massacre.html

(https://admin62b4b.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/audio.jpg)

Moments ago, a maintenance worker for Mandalay Bay came forward and noted that he told hotel dispatchers to call the police and report that a gunman had opened fire inside Mandalay Bay — well before Paddock opened fire on the concert.

The maintenance worker, Stephen Schuck said he barely escaped unharmed after Paddock opened fire on him in the hotel and he credited a security guard with saving his life.

“When the first shooting started, I was kind of frozen for a second,” Schuck said Wednesday on “TODAY.” “He yelled at me, ‘Take cover! Take cover!’ If he yelled a second too late, I would have been shot.”

As NBC reports,
Schuck said he came upon security guard Jesus Campos, who was unarmed and injured in his leg, as Paddock fired more than 200 bullets into the hall and nearby rooms at the beginning of his deadly rampage on Oct. 1. “I am incredibly blessed that somehow I came out of there alive,” Schuck added.

His dramatic account, and the release of audio of those initial shots, comes amid a dispute over the timeline of the events and questions as to how quickly Las Vegas police could have learned about the massacre on an outdoor music festival.

Read more: Audio Released Of Hotel Worker Warning Of Shooter BEFORE Vegas Massacre (https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/audio-released-hotel-worker-warning-shooter-vegas-massacre.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - A Tactical Analysis by Brandon Smith
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 12, 2017, 05:24:05 am
Activist Post

A Tactical Analysis Of The Las Vegas Mass Shooting Incident

Brandon Smith

(https://www.activistpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/las-vegas-tactical-alt-market-768x451.jpg)

I set aside some time for more details of the Vegas shooting to emerge before writing this article. A few important data points have been released, but I have to say that this remains one of the most confusing terror incidents in decades.

The tactical and strategic thought applied in this attack denotes a sophisticated and experienced shooter, yet, we are told by Stephen Paddock’s family and girlfriend that there was no indication that he had such knowledge or experience. There were some advanced tactical decisions involved in every aspect of the staging of the event, yet, there were also a few glaring mistakes that do not fit. Beyond this, there is evidence that Paddock (the alleged shooter) did not act alone, yet, the official mainstream narrative continues to tell us that he was a lone wolf.

Now, every terror event these days produces an endless supply of alternative theories, some practical and some ridiculous. I will be keeping my theories to a minimum here, because I don’t think they serve much purpose in this instance beyond comfort for those that desperately want explanations. What I will be doing is presenting some questions and pointing out inconsistencies. My goal is merely to show that there is evidence which indicates far more complexity to the Vegas shooting than the mainstream media and federal officials are willing to discuss.

First, lets look at how the attack was staged versus what we are told about the background of Stephen Paddock.


Mass Shooter Psychological Profile

Psychological disposition is the root of tactical behavior.  It is important to note that mass shootings are an extremely rare occurrence despite the propaganda often poured onto the pages of the mainstream media. Psychological profiling of the people behind these crimes is difficult because the number of candidates is very small. There are, however, some common themes.

For example — many mass shooters are motivated by revenge or envy. Shooters often exhibit signs of sociopathy, a self-centered nature and a lack of compassion along with past instances of abuse and violence towards other people and animals. There is also usually a previous history of mental illness. In most cases there is a “triggering event” which leads to a psychological break and a reaction to violence.

According to the personal accounts from the people that knew Paddock, including his girlfriend, none of these attributes seems to fit. Marilou Danley described him as a “kind and caring man,” stating that he had never taken any action which would have led her to believe he was capable of such violence. The only factor that stands as evidence of a potential psychological break is the fact that Paddock was prescribed the anti-anxiety drug diazepam months prior, which has been known to cause aggression when taken in larger doses.

Did Paddock take this drug because of unrelated anxiety and did it trigger his shooting spree? Or, was his anxiety caused by the fact that he was already planning a shooting spree and the drug was meant to “take the edge off” so he could more easily follow through with the attack?

Paddock was prescribed the drug once in 2016 and on June 21st of this year.  I have seen no evidence that he was using the medication in the days before the attack.  The meticulous planning that went into this attack, as well as possible evidence that Paddock was renting rooms adjacent to major musical events for some time, shows that this was not initiated by a psychological break. Rather, there was a considerable level of conscious critical thought and foresight.

There is also no available evidence of domestic instability or financial troubles. Paddock was a multi-millionaire with a successful real estate investment portfolio. He was a former postal worker and tax auditor, as well as an employee for defense contractor Lockheed Martin (I have not seen any statements by Lockheed on what exactly he did for them). It should be noted that Paddock, at age 64, was one of the oldest mass shooters in recent history.

Paddock’s father, a bank robber on the FBI’s Most Wanted list, was not present for the most of the early lives of the children according to his brother, Eric Paddock, which undermines the notion of poor environmental influences.

Eric Paddock claims Stephen also had no strong ideological or religious leanings and simply “didn’t care” about such matters. Meaning, no apparent ties to extremist views. He had no social media profiles and police claim they have found nothing in his home computers or phones to suggest a philosophical or political motive. So far I have not seen a single concrete and verified piece of evidence proving Paddock believed in anything other than making money, gambling and traveling the world for fun.

I personally find this extremely hard to believe. Stephen Paddock, for all intents and purposes, was positively the perfect “Gray Man,” a ghost that blended completely into the background, so much so that his own family and girlfriend had no idea that he was amassing the weapons and training needed to pull off the Vegas attack.


The Tactical Know-How Of A Nobody

This is the area which brings up the most questions for me in terms of the Vegas incident. As an avid tactical shooter and long distance shooter, I immediately recognized some strange factors. For instance, the choice of his perch, two adjacent rooms on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, was rather effective for a number of reasons.

If you have the chance to study counter-sniping methodologies or talk with veterans involved in counter-sniping in urban areas, you will learn that the most successful snipers tend to choose mid-ground perches to take shots from. Meaning, they never choose the highest points nor the lowest points, and never shoot from the closest points or the furthest points. Well trained snipers can and do sometimes shoot from 1,000 yards or more, but they prefer to shoot from the “sweet spot” around 300-400 yards away at an elevated point from an expedient hide in the middle of a building or structure.

They do this because when people (including trained combat soldiers) are shot at, their eyes naturally tend to scan for the highest points in the background and the closest points in the foreground first. Choosing mid-ground positions makes snipers more difficult to pick out quickly and also harder for the average person to shoot back at.

I would note that average, untrained mass shooters are more likely to enter a crowd and start shooting at point blank range in order to ensure hits on targets. Paddock chose the position of a trained shooter, which you can see a photo of in this article by The New Yorker. It was NOT the best possible position, but a very good one.

Paddock’s choice to fire from the position of a large occupied hotel gave a layer of cover to his attack; anyone attempting to suppress him with their own fire would risk hitting innocent people within the building.  Only a person with an understanding of counter-sniping and a scoped rifle would have the ability to stop the attack from outside.  Nevada is a very concealed carry friendly state and attacking a crowd at close range on the ground would be a high-risk scenario.  Firing from the Mandalay was the shooter’s most likely chance of a high body count without meeting opposition, as long as he had the proper training.

The first room Paddock used in the Mandalay is in the corner of the 32nd floor with a view of the concert area and the north. It has a diagonal range of around 400 yards and a linear range of around 240 yards. When firing from an elevated position snipers range targets and bullet drop according to the shorter linear range or “true ballistic distance” (base of the ground to the target) rather than the direct range from their perch to the target. This is because gravity only affects the bullet over the true ballistic distance and elevation in a scope must be adjusted to that distance. It is not as easy as it seems to hit targets from an elevated position, even with an “automatic” weapon.

It has been recently stated by Las Vegas police that the “note” found near Paddock’s body was scribbled with calculations for bullet drop from his position. These calculations can be done with newer laser rangefinders, but Stephen apparently chose to do them on paper. Las Vegas Detective Casey Clarkson was on the grounds of the concert during the attack, and recounted “I’m like, how is he so accurate” (in reference to Paddock) in an interview with 60 Minutes. Yet another piece of evidence showing that Paddock (or someone else) had extensive shooter training.

The two adjacent rooms at the Mandalay offered extensive coverage of possible approaches for first responders. The first room gave the shooter good coverage of the concert and the north approach of Las Vegas Blvd. The second room gave the shooter a very wide angle of coverage to the south approach to the Mandalay as well as the main entrance of the hotel. More tactical know-how on display.

Finally, Paddock allegedly placed small surveillance cameras in the hall approaching his room. A valuable tool which a shooter could use to surprise law enforcement, maintaining a longer period of shooter effectiveness as well as possibly allowing for an escape. Las Vegas police are quoted as stating that it appeared as though Paddock had planned to evade capture. This fits in line with the rest of his tactical staging. His suicide does not.


Things That Don’t Add Up

Again, I am not going to enter into much discussion on theory, here. I am only going to cite some instances of evidence and narrative that, for me, do not make sense.  Let’s begin…

The motive: No apparent motive. Paddock led a life of near luxury, had a happy relationship with his girlfriend and gave no indication to anyone of any instability or ideological affiliation. He had no criminal record. He was also well beyond the average age range of people commonly involved in such crimes. He does not fit any of the characteristics of mass shooters.  Period.

The arsenal: Paddock put a substantial amount of thought and planning into the position of his perch as well as a potential escape. He had the knowledge and experience to calculate accurate shots from an elevated position at distance. But, for some reason the 64-year-old-man decided it was warranted to drag at least 23 guns and hundreds of pounds of ammunition in ten separate suitcases to his room at the Mandalay Bay. A person with the intelligence displayed in the planning of this event would know that most of these rifles were not needed in the slightest to achieve the effect desired. They are dead weight, and moving them into the Mandalay only presented unnecessary risk of discovery. Unless, of course, the original plan involved multiple shooters.

A strange year? Family and acquaintances have mentioned Paddock’s propensity for “disappearing” in the year previous to the Vegas attack. And, there is the fact that 33 of the 47 firearms Paddock owned were purchased in the last 12 months.

Security calls: Paddock called hotel security at least twice to complain about “loud music” on the floor below him the day of the shooting.  Why would a mass shooter care, or take the risk of drawing too much attention to himself?

The windows: Why, after so much careful planning, did Paddock expose his position by smashing two separate windows in his adjacent hotel rooms? There are other ways of providing a shooter’s loophole with less exposure? Very odd.  Almost as if the decision to actually shoot was made suddenly, which does not fit the rest of the narrative or evidence.

“Unrelated” room alarm leads security right to Paddock: The Las Vegas Sheriffs Department indicates that security was originally led directly to the floor that Paddock was shooting from by a “door alarm” that was set off by someone three rooms down from him. Now, authorities have been forced to admit that this alarm and the confrontation between security and Paddock took place BEFORE he began his shooting spree.  This means that police should have been alerted to Paddock’s presence and exact location in advance of the attack.  Who set off this alarm which conveniently helped to give away Paddock’s position early, and why?

The surveillance cameras: Paddock had a head start on security, SWAT and anyone else that approached his rooms. He fired at hotel security through his door injuring employee Jesus Campos. He also had thousands of rounds of ammunition including .308 rounds which could easily be fired through several walls on the floor of his hotel room. Why did Paddock prepare for an escape, use his cameras to allow him to fire at hotel security through his door, equip rounds capable of annihilating any SWAT team that stacked up to breach his room, but decided to shoot himself instead before SWAT ever entered? Some people might argue that there is no logic to the mind of a “madman,” but again, I’ve seen no evidence that Paddock was insane beyond the criminal act itself.  Also, the hotel had its own surveillance in the hall near Paddock’s rooms.  No one noticed the man placing cameras about the area?

Multiple shooters? Las Vegas County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo is quoted as saying that it was only logical to assume given the evidence that Paddock “had some help at some point” in the staging of the Vegas attack. To me, this is absolutely clear in the tactical planning.  Paddock does not appear to have the background or training to have chosen and staged the perch.

The report suggesting that a phone charger was found that did not belong to Paddock has since been refuted by police, as well as the report that his card key was used to access his room while Paddock was gone. Of course, hotel surveillance would prove this one way or the other and should be made available to the public.

Still, there are multiple accounts by witnesses that there may have been a second shooter, including the initial reports given by first responders on the scene, who were told a shooter was on the 29th floor as well as the 32nd floor.  All of these accounts have been dismissed as a result of “panic” and the fog of war.

The mystery woman: A witness on site at the concert stated that a woman (and her apparent boyfriend) approached people near the stage 45 minutes before the attack, telling them that “they were all going to die.” She was later escorted out of the venue by security. Who was this woman? Was she trying to menace the concertgoers or warn them? Or, was it all coincidence?


Conclusion

In my view, there is simply no way that a man with Stephen Paddock’s history and background committed the Vegas shooting alone. There is no motive, no clear evidence of mental illness, no ideological markers and nothing to be gained. The tactical expertise displayed in most cases shows considerable training. Theories will abound. It is possible that he was used. It is also possible that he was secretly radicalized and trained, as ISIS has continuously asserted since the attack. Or, perhaps he never pulled a single trigger and somehow ended up shot through the head in a room full of guns overlooking Las Vegas Blvd. and dozens of dead concertgoers.

The most disturbing aspect of this event and the mainstream narrative, though, is what it insinuates. It insinuates that anyone no matter how seemingly normal could one day simply “snap” and murder crowds of people with impunity. It is the anti-Second Amendment narrative personified, because if “anyone” is capable of such horror, and motive is nonexistent, then the mere existence of firearm access means that we are surrounded by millions of latent mass shooters. That is to say, we are supposed to fear everyone around us at all times. I will write about the solution to this problem in my next article. In the meantime, I suggest everyone ponder on the oddities of this event and continue to ask questions.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 12, 2017, 03:14:50 pm
Thanks for the information #1 and EG.  I see the mainstream media has conveniently grown bored of this story as the timeline of events are in question and the official narrative is in question.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 12, 2017, 03:25:48 pm
Thanks for the information #1 and EG.  I see the mainstream media has conveniently grown bored of this story as the timeline of events are in question and the official narrative is in question.



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The fact globalist to globalist channels were mum on this (Vegas) op indicated to me, that there are more 'events' to come.  ... and that multiple terror plotters will be presented to the public by the globalist media.  So, buckle up...  solutions ahead.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 12, 2017, 03:26:44 pm
Just a little over a week after the latest US false flag Kirstjen Nielsen is appointed to head Fatherland Security.
http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2308.msg13908#msg13908

Why it matters...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Mike Adams on multiple shooters forensic evidence.
Post by: Q on Oct 12, 2017, 04:17:43 pm
Mike Adams on multiple shooters evidence.

Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas massacre



Some useful information here from Mike Adams, but unfortunately his analysis is fundamentally flawed.

He states that the lag time between the bullet impact sound, and the report from the rifle, gives the range from your current location and the range of fire. This is wrong - it depends on where the observer (listener) is in relation to the two points.

However, this information is useful as further evidence that there were 2 weapons being fired for a couple of minutes, which could be indicative of a second shooter.

This acoustic information does not demonstrate that the shooting was coming from different locations, since it only shows us that the range of fire was different between the two weapons. So it could be two locations or it could be the same location but 2 different aim/impact points.

His calculations would only demonstrate different firing positions if all impact points were in exactly the same location, or if we knew exactly where the different points were, then different lag times would indicate different firing locations. If he wanted to also state the actual ranges of the different weapons, then we would need to know the exact location of the observer.

However, as I have said since the attack, the far more important question is the motive, or how the attacks will be used. As Truthstream also pointed out well over a week ago (see post #139), this is likely to be scanners at all hotels and other public spaces.

Additionally, some are confused as to why they are not using a multi-shooter narrative. They need to be able to present the attack as a simple problem, one that they can keep people safe from in future, and solve with their reaction and solution.

Scanners in hotels and public spaces can easily be presented as something that could prevent a lone guy taking a load of guns into a hotel and shooting out of the window, so that is the narrative they will likely stick to. It is a simple story without complications, like the underwear bomber episode, which was used to sell the need for scanners at airports worldwide.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Mike Adams on multiple shooters forensic evidence.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 12, 2017, 06:31:05 pm
I'm sticking with the location.

The largest, most spectacular mass shooting, and of all the places on the planet it had to happen at the foot of a giant black pyramid accompanying and obelisk.
Yea right, of course . . . . just a coincidence.

As for the continued silence of the Alt-Fake-Media and the focus on weak evidence, its decidedly embarrassing. Shifting the blame onto AntiFa, or shifting the blame onto ISIS, or promoting other hoaxes. Only a few lone voices whisper "New World Order".

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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Boudicca on Oct 13, 2017, 12:10:20 am
Last night watched a YouTube video from a guy who also had posted the Illuminati card about Vegas, and also some video footage of a press conference with the lead law enforcement in charge of the investigation, who was "shadowed" at the conference by the head FYI guy there. Interestingly, he said the FBI guy's name was "Rouse" or something like that. What was pertinent about that was the guy's wife. He showed a picture of the two of them together, then another picture of the two of them with HER parents. One of them was John Podesta, her father.  Still trying to find it to post the link. Should be easy to check out, I think. Wouldn't THAT be a coincidence?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 13, 2017, 05:23:15 am
SOURCE NOT REPUTABLE

Report: FBI Wipes Phones & Laptops of Las Vegas Massacre Eyewitnesses

https://www.prisonplanet.com/report-fbi-wipes-phones-laptops-of-las-vegas-massacre-eyewitnesses.html

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'Workers at the Route 91 festival during which Stephen Paddock unleashed his massacre have reportedly been given back their phones and laptops by the FBI only to discover that all messages and videos from the night of the attack have been wiped clean.

According to a Las Vegas resident who posted a status update on Facebook, “A bunch of people that worked the Route 91 said they got their cell phones back today. They all said that all their phones are completely wiped clean! All messages and info from that weekend are completely gone.

Anyone else experience this?”

“A few different people who were vendors there are all saying the same thing,” the woman later comments.

Later in the thread, a Route 91 worker confirms the story, commenting, “Of course. It’s an active federal crime scene. They can wipe it clean. I was the beverage manager for the entire event. My laptop is wiped clean.”'

READ MORE
https://www.prisonplanet.com/report-fbi-wipes-phones-laptops-of-las-vegas-massacre-eyewitnesses.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Mike Adams on multiple shooters forensic evidence.
Post by: Q on Oct 13, 2017, 11:03:24 am
I'm sticking with the location.

The largest, most spectacular mass shooting, and of all the places on the planet it had to happen at the foot of a giant black pyramid accompanying and obelisk.
Yea right, of course . . . . just a coincidence.

As for the continued silence of the Alt-Fake-Media and the focus on weak evidence, its decidedly embarrassing. Shifting the blame onto AntiFa, or shifting the blame onto ISIS, or promoting other hoaxes. Only a few lone voices whisper "New World Order".




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There might well be significance to the location in that sense. Another angle to this is that everything in Vegas is fake - a poor facsimile - including the pyramid and obelisk, and including the attack narrative.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 13, 2017, 11:48:26 am
What strikes me now is this:

The same man who broke into Bohemian Grove, to video prove, that, The Elites are Obsessed with the Esoteric Occult, has not mentioned the most in your face obvious symbolism.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 13, 2017, 03:53:21 pm

Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos disappears moments before TV interviews

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/13/las-vegas-security-guard-jesus-campos-disappears-moments-before-tv-interviews.html

Where in the world is Jesus Campos?

The Mandalay Bay security guard shot by Stephen Paddock in the moments leading up to the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history was set to break his silence Thursday night with five television interviews, including one on Fox News, Campos' union president said.

Except when the cameras were about to roll, and media gathered in the building to talk to him, Campos reportedly bolted, and, as of early Friday morning, it wasn't immediately clear where he was.

“We were in a room and we came out and he was gone,” Campos' union president told reporters, according to ABC News’ Stephanie Wash.

Campos is represented by the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America, which did not respond to requests for comment from Fox News earlier this week.


More at link -->  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/13/las-vegas-security-guard-jesus-campos-disappears-moments-before-tv-interviews.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 13, 2017, 03:57:29 pm
More detailed story than a Fox article.

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Mandalay Bay security guard skips TV interviews after Las Vegas shooting

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/mandalay-bay-security-guard-skips-tv-interviews-after-las-vegas-shooting/

Jesus Campos, the Mandalay Bay security guard who first encountered mass shooter Stephen Paddock, vanished Thursday afternoon hours before planned interviews with five TV networks, his union president said Friday.

“The union doesn’t have any idea where he’s at at this time,” said David Hickey, international president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America, which represents security guards at Mandalay Bay.

Hickey said he had been with Campos for the last four days, along with another union member, helping him prepare for media interviews. He said Campos was staying in a Las Vegas-area hotel suite, with a living room and an adjoining bedroom.

On Thursday at about 1 p.m., Hickey said he and the union’s local president took a meeting with MGM officials in the bedroom, while Campos, the other union member and a security guard hired by MGM to protect Campos waited in the living room.

At 2 p.m., when Hickey emerged from the meeting, he said Campos and the other people were gone.

Hickey said he called and texted the other union member. The only response he received is that Campos was being taken to a Quick Care health clinic.

More at link -->  https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/mandalay-bay-security-guard-skips-tv-interviews-after-las-vegas-shooting/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/mandalay-bay-security-guard-skips-tv-interviews-after-las-vegas-shooting/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 13, 2017, 07:55:59 pm
More detailed story than a Fox article.

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Mandalay Bay security guard skips TV interviews after Las Vegas shooting

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/mandalay-bay-security-guard-skips-tv-interviews-after-las-vegas-shooting/


Imagine my surprise. 

Once I get these shackles off me, I'm going to post the evidence which suggests Mr. Paddock is most likely is a CIA cutout, and may only be dead in name only.

Speaking of interviews, have the corporate media interviewed any of the survivors of the 'victims'?  I haven't 'tuned in' much but I haven't even heard of one 'heart throbbing' interview centered on a victim that the corporate media loves to wave in our face.

I have been wondering also if this vegas deal was simply a 'live drill', 'flash mob' style, where crisis actors were ready with fake blood and all, and the windows being shot out of one of the other hotels was simply for effect.  Police scanner audio tells me no, however the vegas police have been anything but straight forward on this.

Here's what raised my suspicions about 'crisis actors'
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/eyewitness-report-of-shooting-at-the-tropicana-and-ny-ny/

The young man in the video made one statement that didn't make sense and a slip up where his eyeballs about popped out of his sockets once he realized what he said.   At the last third of this 45 minute video his encounter with the police (who instructed him to go to the Tropicana) didn't make any sense based off the purpose of his entire video, that multiple shooters were lurking all throughout his journey.  He later said... "I just want to tell my fans"  He stopped himself with the look of "OH F#$^ DID I JUST SAY THAT!"  It threw him off so much that he had to regroup take a deep breath and get 'back in character'.

The bottom line (for me) is that this operation was actually setup to show a multi-shooter cover up.  (YES on purpose)  I'm treating this Las Vegas 'possible' massacre as 'THE PLANE HITTING TOWER 1'    Where it appeared to be a plane accident until the 'second plane' hit where there was no denying, America is under a terrorist attack. So goes the narrative.

I believe that the Vegas deal is simply the 'prequel' to other 'terror attacks' to come ala, the second plane hitting the second tower event) to usher in a compliant public to a total over the top surveillance. papers please in your face, police state.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 13, 2017, 10:00:29 pm
Was Stephen Paddock a 'Tamerlan Tsarnaev' meets 'Barry Seal' Patsy or, was his 'identification' merely erased?

After doing extensive research on Paddock it appears to me he had more in common with both Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Berry Seal than he ever did with a mass murder.   For the record, Tamerlan Tsarnaev was 'never' actually convicted of the Boston bombing in a court of law, he was only 'convicted' in the court of the lettered agencies and their corporate media lap dogs.

One would think all three 'noted' lives and deaths and 'the narratives' could be swapped among them.  In some respects, it seems Stephen Paddock, Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Berry Seal have walked in each others footsteps.

The Russians 'originally' blew Tamerlan Tsarnaev's CIA cover.  What the corporate media left out of their 'nightly news' was the fact that Tamerlan's money for the so-called 'wild life' he was living, ala Paddock, most likely came from working for the very intelligence circles that would one day turn on him and use him as cannon fodder.   Sibel Edmonds explains why Tamerlan Tsarnaev made the perfect CIA intelligence operative (or cutout). (@ 13:12)










Google has made it extremely hard to find the CIA / Tamerlan Tsarnaev connection articles. There were many at the time.  However, plenty on the FBI connection is floating around online which was only a watch list 'consideration', certainly not full-time employment as a CIA double agent.   That aspect of Tamerlan Tsarnaev life has been sanitized from the internet.

It could have been something as simple as Tamerlan Tsarnaev wanting to leave his 'company gig' and pursue his dreams of simply living his own life where the fallout happened between him and the intelligence community that put him on the 'patsy' list.

Then there is the infamous Berry Seal who many suspect was killed by the CIA after Seal threatened (the US government) when the IRS came knocking on his door.

If the IRS was going after the 'kingpin of military weapons' himself, Paddock  ::) as a 'narrative' to explain away his motive,  they certainly aren't advertising that fact.  The excerpt below may explain why an IRS audit was ruled out of an 'official narrative' for Paddock's sudden turn for the worse...

When the IRS came to seize Seal’s property and claimed that he owed back taxes for 30 million made in drug dealing, Seal’s response was a presumptuous “Hey, I work for you… we work for the same people!”.  When that didn’t work, he started making threats that “If you don’t get these IRS assholes off my back I’m going to blow the whistle on the Contra scheme.”  One week after that conversation he was sentenced to a halfway house as a condition of his plea bargain, making him an easy target.  Within two weeks he was dead, shot to death in Baton Rouge, Louisiana on February 19, 1986
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/11/nathan-kleffman/cia-drug-dealing/

Now enter one Paddock CIA cutout?  CIA pilot.. drug / weapons runner? i.e. Fast and Furious / Benghazi

Confirmed connections to intelligence / defense contractors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-liked-to-gamble-listened-to-country-music-lived-quiet-retired-life-before-massacre/?utm_term=.7f8d77a08d7a

While 'ONE' of Paddock's 'official' public title's was 'accountant' when working with a company "closely associated" with Lockheed.  Paddock could have been employed to do any number of things off the record A.K.A. CIA cutout ala Tsarnaev / Seal.  One job he most likely did was fly aircraft for the defense department just like Berry Seal.  Or, even more plausible the State Department during the Obama years

Documents obtained by the Daily Sheeple sourced that one of Paddocks two plains have been in the hands of the defense department for THREE YEARS!!!  Via Volant LLC tied to the Obama administration
As sourced here
(http://www.abeldanger.org/web/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Paddock-Connected-to-Spooks.jpg)

Volant LLC
Volant LLC is interesting in it's own right.  You can do your own research on Volant LLC, and it's ties to the Obama administration which made me believe that it is quite reasonable, that Paddock's 'actual job' was a more updated version of Berry Seal running guns to AL CIA DUH / ISIS US mercenary assets.  Which, if true begs these questions... Did Paddock become a liability or simply his name.  Did they actually kill paddock or some other poor soul to fit the narrative?
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From Able Danger...

Was Stephen Paddock an intelligence cutout?

Have a look through this image. FBI involved in gun running and Paddock possibly being an undercover operative for the FBI in gun running in Las Vegas? In light of more information and insights coming out, if this leaked photo of the dead guy in the hotel room is genuinely of Stephen Paddock’s dead body – with Paddock framed as the “shooter” – be aware of which party would have leaked the photos, and what their motive for leaking it would have been. It was reported on the Hagmann channel yesterday that if it’s true: both Paddock and his girlfriend worked for the FBI as informants. And Stephen Paddock had a body camera on him taping the FBI’s gun sting, and they saw it was a setup, they might have shot him and the two FBI agents who were in the hallway. All of this information and comments being dropped all over the internet piece it all together. Paddock was not the shooter. Take a close look at the content of the image here. The FBI is going to let him go down for this so they won’t get blamed.

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(https://images.imgbox.com/8a/9a/ToTa0Rl6_o.jpg)

Who are these ^^^^^ guys?  One thing for sure is, one is NOT the other.   I can't believe no one else hasn't this but 'living guy' has 'lucky 13' tattooed directly under the Adams apple.  'Dead guy' has no '13' tattoo what-so-ever.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 14, 2017, 09:53:33 am
From an article (https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/13/las-vegas-massacre-shills-expose-the-desired-outcome/) at Veterans Today : by Ian Greenhalgh

The simple truth is that Las Vegas was carried out by agents of the same right-wing pro-Israel Neocons who inserted Donald Trump’s fat ass into the White House, the same bunch of scumbags who brought us 9-11, The War on Terror, the mass shootings at Sandy Hook and elsewhere and blew JFK’s brains out one morning in Dallas.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 14, 2017, 01:29:48 pm
From an article (https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/13/las-vegas-massacre-shills-expose-the-desired-outcome/) at Veterans Today : by Ian Greenhalgh

The simple truth is that Las Vegas was carried out by agents of the same right-wing pro-Israel Neocons who inserted Donald Trump’s fat ass into the White House, the same bunch of scumbags who brought us 9-11, The War on Terror, the mass shootings at Sandy Hook and elsewhere and blew JFK’s brains out one morning in Dallas.



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https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/13/las-vegas-massacre-shills-expose-the-desired-outcome/]article

This article is fairly spot on.  My additional commentary...

The disinfo crowd, after blaming the ‘leftists’ and the ‘anti Trump’ elements of the ‘Deep State’ go on to bleat about how poor little Donald is under such serious and murderous attack, (which was set up as far back as 2014) that the goal of Las Vegas was to destroy his wonderful presidency, to grab your guns and to curb your freedoms, as Americans, to engage in racist bullshit, to shoot each other, to act like a bunch of fascist pricks, just like dear Donald.

Well, no, not one word of this is true, it is pure disinfo nonsense from sad old men who have been co-opted to serve the very ‘Deep State’ they constantly whine and bitch about.  (absolutely true)

The simple truth is that Las Vegas was carried out by agents of the same right-wing pro-Israel Neocons who inserted Donald Trump’s fat ass into the White House, the same bunch of scumbags who brought us 9-11, The War on Terror, the mass shootings at Sandy Hook and elsewhere and blew JFK’s brains out one morning in Dallas.  (true again however, the CIA, NSA have to be included here)

The goal was to further the Strategy of Tension (http://constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_14.htm), (CIA creation) the cynical and murderous use of divide and conquer tactics to destabilise and fracture the US along it’s many faultlines, be they racial, religious, political or socio-economic. Donald Trump and his ludicrous presidency is not the target, he works for these people and is the perfect person to be their president as his loathsome personality, disgusting character, immense capability to offend and upset people every time he opens his mouth, all of it serves their purpose of divide and conquer perfectly.  (Just like Obama before Trump, this is the most important aspect to the Trump presidency some 'truthers' on the right, can't get into their heads because the NWO took Alex Jones advise and repeatedly attack one of their own to give him 'street cred'.)

BTW, Trump isn’t running anything (insert Dr Death Kissinger here) , his presidency is a sick joke, an utter fraud, nothing more than a reality TV show where the star’s intended role is to piss off as many people as possible and sow as much dissent and tension as he can; meanwhile, others, behind the scenes are running the country, or trying to, hence it is becoming obvious to even the MSM that the US is a rudderless ship with no effective leadership and even worse, no signs of anything remotely resembling an effective opposition. The election of Trump was the death knell of US politics, gone the way of the dinosaurs to be replaced by fake reality TV bullshit, served up constantly by the corporate news networks.

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Did I not call Trump nothing more than a cartoon figure for both the right and left to spend endless hours either defending or hating while THE agenda of the NWO moves forward?

The author is correct when pointing out how the operation (Vegas) was to foment MORE dived and concur in USA.  No doubt.  However, it doesn't end there.  The operation is to push the narrative that Americans daily life OUTSIDE their homes is a terrorist's playground and once again we must give up freedom for security.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 14, 2017, 04:38:46 pm
From an article (https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/13/las-vegas-massacre-shills-expose-the-desired-outcome/) at Veterans Today : by Ian Greenhalgh

The simple truth is that Las Vegas was carried out by agents of the same right-wing pro-Israel Neocons who inserted Donald Trump’s fat ass into the White House, the same bunch of scumbags who brought us 9-11, The War on Terror, the mass shootings at Sandy Hook and elsewhere and blew JFK’s brains out one morning in Dallas.



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Great article, VT is often a breath of fresh air in the mostly disinfo 'alt-media'. However I would say Jeff Rense is more of a credulous dupe than a disinfo shill, handicapped by race and religion delusions; but the article calls Robert David Steele exactly right.

Also, the appearance of the US being a 'rudderless ship' is by design, and intended to increase the fallout when they 'detonate' and subsequently close the books on the puppet Trump.



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Title: Re: Mike Adams doubles down on his acoustic disinfo bullshit
Post by: Q on Oct 14, 2017, 04:51:11 pm
Mike Adams, aka the Health Ranger of naturalnews.com, is engaging in deliberate disinfo, and not for the first time.

A few days ago he made this video which is posted earlier in this thread, that purports to show that there were 2 shooters in 2 locations in Las Vegas. Whether there were 2 shooters is not what I'm addressing here, but rather Mike Adams's disinfo and the motives behind it. The video is here:











I debunked his video, beyond any doubt, here:

http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2297.msg13911#msg13911

I also posted a shorter version in the comments of this video which Adams deleted twice. If I'm wrong and his analysis is sound, then he could have pointed this out, but he deleted the comments instead.

The importance of this is shown in some of the other comments, such as "Hey if this was wrong then they would be here saying so". I am there pointing it out, and possibily others are too, but Adams is removing the comments. My comment was as follows:

This analysis is wrong for the following 2 main reasons:
1. Different lag times could be due to 2 weapons being fired from the same location at different ranges.
2. The range of fire CANNOT be determined from acoustic data without knowing where the recording device is located in relation to the firing point and impact point. For example, the results of the calculations if the recording was made halfway between the points would be very different from the results if the recording was made nearer the impact point, and so on. For actual range calculations to mean anything at all, the location of the recording device MUST be known.

Mike Adams has now made another video doubling down on his acoustic disinfo BS:











I posted the same comment as above on this video and he deleted it.

The establishment wants us to concentrate on things like this to distract from the reasons behind the attack and what is hoped to be gained from it, which are likely to be many and varied.

An additional facet of this disinfo is that it's another variant of what I call a 'controlled detonation', where the central fact of the false flag attack can be undermined by disproving BS like this acoustic disinfo at a later stage. This is why Alex Jones made up his Antifa/Muslim BS narrative, and this is why Mike Adams is pushing this acoustic disinfo narrative, and this is why various others are pushing the anti-Trump/anti-white and anti good ol' 'merica narrative.

We know well enough about Alex Jones et al, but here is another load of lying disinfo from Mike Adams:













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Title: Re: Mike Adams doubles down on his acoustic disinfo bullshit
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 14, 2017, 07:29:05 pm
Its about 7 pages long, the bit that got me is that Mike Adams is a spammer. His website shot to fame because he used SEO trickery. Not a truther, but a get rich quick scam artist in love with his own image.

The mainstream media may be taking a hit, but the evil ones seemed to have simply purchased a chunk of the alleged "alt-media".

The Legend of Mike Adams and the Reality
https://healthwyze.org/reports/616-special-report-the-legend-of-mike-adams-and-the-reality



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 14, 2017, 07:34:16 pm
Google Altering Vegas Shooting Search Algorithms To Support 'Official Narrative' Search Results
http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2308.msg13971#msg13971



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 15, 2017, 12:53:41 pm

https://chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-las-vegas-shooting-timeline-20171013-story.html


Las Vegas police now say there was no 6-minute gap between first shots, concert massacre

Las Vegas police said Friday that the gunman who opened fire on a country-music festival far below his hotel suite did not shoot a security guard six minutes before that rampage, contradicting a timeline that they had offered earlier this week.

The change marked the latest shift in the official narrative of what happened before and during the massacre, during which Stephen Paddock fired from his high-rise suite in the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more.

Joseph Lombardo, the Las Vegas sheriff, also said Friday that the number of injuries related to the Oct. 1 massacre had increased, rising to 546. Of that number, he said, 45 were still hospitalized, some in critical condition.

Investigators remain unable to determine a motivation for the rampage and why Paddock, a 64-year-old avid gambler, smuggled 23 guns and other equipment into his room before opening fire.

On Friday, Lombardo said that investigators now think Paddock had fired at aviation fuel tanks near the concert purposefully, though these containers did not ignite. He also confirmed that contrary to previous police accounts, Paddock arrived at the hotel Sept. 25, not Sept. 28 as authorities had said.

More at link -->  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-las-vegas-shooting-timeline-20171013-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-las-vegas-shooting-timeline-20171013-story.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 15, 2017, 02:33:41 pm


On Friday, Lombardo said that investigators now think Paddock had fired at aviation fuel tanks near the concert purposefully, though these containers did not ignite.



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This 'feel tank' narrative is complete crapola.   You can see, and measure for yourself, the distance between the "airport's aviation fuel tanks" and the "concert area", and the hotel Paddock was 'allegedly' shooting from.   The fuel tanks pictured in Goggle maps are at least 1 mile 5280 ft from the crowd and a little over a mile from Mandelay Bay.  How could one see those tanks at night with the strip lit up let alone shoot at them?  Even if Paddock et al got a lucky 'over a mile shot' and the tank somehow blew up.  The fuel tanks are staged (BY LAW) away from anything that would cause injury to anyone.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0954235,-115.1612174,1178m/data=!3m1!1e3

However, the 'real' purpose for bringing up the 'fuel tank' issue is to point out yet another 'soft target' (gas pumps) that will need a NWO 'solution' to keep us all safe from terrorists.



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Title: Re: Mike Adams doubles down on his acoustic disinfo bullshit
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 15, 2017, 02:57:40 pm

I posted the same comment as above on this video and he deleted it.


This REPLY to HIC over "Vet Hero" narrative (which was changed to security guard BTW hem, hem) didn't even get to see the light of day.

Natural News RE-Edited my post DELETING Chris Bethel's connection to both Leidos and Lockheed as an intelligence asset AND Paddock's aircraft connection to the Obama Administration and the defense department.
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#1TroubleMaker  IHC • 17 minutes ago
Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by Natural News.

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Chris Bethel (Your Iraq war vet) is also an 'intelligence IT contractor' with none other than the 'Leidos' corporation. Or, at least that's his 'public' designation. This bombshell I posted on the 5th of October and followed up with all the various ways Leidos would benefit from this operation throughout the week, forced the 'official' 'led police to the shooter narrative' they gave Chris Bethel to be changed to the hotel guard by Friday of the same week.

Chris Bethel was also a former Lockheed employee just like Paddock, and Leidos corp for all intent and purposes, is a subsidiary of Lockheed who have their hands in every black op with top secret clearances for all lettered agencies.

http://forum.globalgulag.co...
http://forum.globalgulag.co...

The department of defense has owned one of Paddock's aircraft for at least three years through friend of the Obama Administration Volant LLC
http://forum.globalgulag.co...


One has to wonder if Paddock was involved in weapons trafficking during Fast and Furious / Benghazi ala Berry Seal and had to be liquidated in this multi-shooter false flag.
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What is even creeper, is that Natural News did go to the links I provided to this forum, because they cut and paste the passage below straight from this forum.  As in, they lifted it from this forum, I didn't post it on Natural News.

POSTED BY NATURAL NEWS
Was Paddock a modern Berry Seal running weapons ala Fast and Furious / Benghazi who needed to either be 'patsied out of existence or his identity destroyed at minimum? The dead guy in the infamous photo does NOT have lucky number '13' tattooed to his neck that Paddock (if in fact that's really him) is photographed having.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 15, 2017, 03:34:15 pm
The Sheriff cannot keep his story straight.  Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino seems very instrumental is directing the Sheriff's every changing narrative.   You would not know that the FBI even existed after they took the tapes and searched his home.

So according to official narrative

Paddock is a wealthy  pilot, accountant, real estate investor, well traveled,  avid gun collector and full time video poker gambler who decided to become a mass shooter.  He supposedly scooped out different hotels in relation to several major concert events. He checked in the hotel on September 25, not September 28 like the sheriff originally told us.    He brought 20+ guns and couple thousands of rounds to his hotel room and set up a surveillance system out his door and had cameras inside his room. He broke two windows in his suite with a hammer.  Before he started shooting he encountered a hotel security guard and supposedly shot 200 rounds through his hotel room door.   He proceeds to shoot at concert goers for 10 minutes straight and decides to stop for an unknown reason.  The SWAT breeches his room around 1 hour later and find him dead of suicide with a revolver although Sheriff they believed Paddock had an escape plan.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Brocke on Oct 15, 2017, 08:52:01 pm
Still no photos of body bags, bloody pools on the ground, chalk outlines, piles of spent brass...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 15, 2017, 11:26:18 pm
Still no photos of body bags, bloody pools on the ground, chalk outlines, piles of spent brass...



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... and a room full of guns, and 'some'(?) dead guy  ::)

I'm still waiting to see what is behind curtain #3.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 15, 2017, 11:42:22 pm
Trump properties: 264 potential 'soft targets' for terror attacks
http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2308.msg14027#msg14027



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Shooting To Push Bill Allowing Warrantless Searches
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 17, 2017, 12:53:17 pm
Media Silent As Government Uses Vegas Shooting To Push Bill Allowing Warrantless Searches
https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/media-silent-government-uses-vegas-shooting-push-bill-allowing-warrantless-searches.html

As the mainstream media provides relentless coverage of the Harvey Weinstein Hollywood sex scandal, there is one major piece of legislation it is ignoring, and if passed, it will have massive repercussions for all Americans.

More than 40 organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Freedom of the Press Foundation, have joined together to condemn the USA Liberty Act, a trendy name for a dangerous bill that reauthorizes and creates additional loopholes for Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

In a letter to the House Judiciary Committee, the coalition noted that one of the most obvious problems with the USA Liberty Act is that it fails to address concerns with the “backdoor search loophole,” which allows the government to “conduct warrantless searches for the information of individuals who are not targets of Section 702, including U.S. citizens and residents.”'

Read more: Media Silent As Government Uses Vegas Shooting To Push Bill Allowing Warrantless Searches (https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/media-silent-government-uses-vegas-shooting-push-bill-allowing-warrantless-searches.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Geraldo Rivera - Shill Comedy Alert
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 17, 2017, 12:56:07 pm
'Shot' Vegas security guard Jesus Campos goes missing and the mass shooting official story keeps changing but don't question what happened says Establishment apologist Rivera


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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Shooting To Push Bill Allowing Warrantless Searches
Post by: Brocke on Oct 17, 2017, 03:53:05 pm
Media Silent As Government Uses Vegas Shooting To Push Bill Allowing Warrantless Searches
https://activistpost.com/2017/10/media-silent-government-uses-vegas-shooting-push-bill-allowing-warrantless-searches.html

As the mainstream media provides relentless coverage of the Harvey Weinstein Hollywood sex scandal, there is one major piece of legislation it is ignoring, and if passed, it will have massive repercussions for all Americans.

More than 40 organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Freedom of the Press Foundation, have joined together to condemn the USA Liberty Act, a trendy name for a dangerous bill that reauthorizes and creates additional loopholes for Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

In a letter to the House Judiciary Committee, the coalition noted that one of the most obvious problems with the USA Liberty Act is that it fails to address concerns with the “backdoor search loophole,” which allows the government to “conduct warrantless searches for the information of individuals who are not targets of Section 702, including U.S. citizens and residents.”'

Read more: Media Silent As Government Uses Vegas Shooting To Push Bill Allowing Warrantless Searches (https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10/media-silent-government-uses-vegas-shooting-push-bill-allowing-warrantless-searches.html)



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i'm preaching to the choir, but it needs to be said.

Fourth Amendment - U.S. Constitution  Search and Seizure -

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Survivor Who Died Suddenly ( Crisis Actor )
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 18, 2017, 07:20:22 am
CAUTION : Source is Fake Alt Media

Vegas Survivor Who Died Suddenly Had Planned Group To Expose Cover-Up

https://www.prisonplanet.com/vegas-survivor-who-died-suddenly-had-planned-group-to-expose-cover-up.html

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'A woman who died days after surviving the ill-fated October 1 country music festival in Las Vegas wanted to organize a survivor’s group in order to flesh out the strange event, Facebook conversations reveal.

Kymberley Suchomel, 28, died suddenly on October 9 at her Apple Valley, California, residence five days after posting her version of events to Facebook.

In the days following the massacre, friends reached out to Suchomel over a October 4 post in which she described someone setting off “fire crackers” near the venue, and detailed being chased by numerous people, concluding at one point “There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one.”

One long-time friend of Suchomel’s, who asked to remain anonymous, provided Infowars with screenshots of a conversation he’d had with her, in which she indicated planning to “organize a group of survivors” in order “to piece things together.”'


Read more: Vegas Survivor Who Died Suddenly Had Planned Group To Expose Cover-Up (https://www.prisonplanet.com/vegas-survivor-who-died-suddenly-had-planned-group-to-expose-cover-up.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 18, 2017, 04:25:15 pm
Synopsis of interview.

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Las Vegas security guard breaks silence on 'Ellen'













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 19, 2017, 05:13:50 pm
Synopsis of interview.

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Las Vegas security guard breaks silence on 'Ellen'













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Even the (British) corporate / state run media said the Ellen interview was a complete waste of time.  Jesus time missing was most likely prepping him for such 'FAKE' interviews.  But hey, maybe Ellen got him a $1000 gift card for Target.  ::)
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Ellen interview 'officially' memory holes the MSM's first 'hero'  (Until his background was discovered)
http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2297.msg13680#msg13680



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 19, 2017, 05:16:57 pm
Las Vegas Shooting Eyewitness Planet Hollywood (Documents what we already know... multiple shooters in multiple locations)












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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 19, 2017, 07:20:10 pm
Las Vegas Shooting Eyewitness Planet Hollywood (Documents what we already know... multiple shooters in multiple locations)


Thanks for the posting the video #1.   Glad to see witnesses speaking up.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 19, 2017, 10:17:48 pm
Thanks for the posting the video #1.   Glad to see witnesses speaking up.



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You'll get a hell of a lot more info from this lady than Ellen would give you in her lifetime.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - The Blatant Cover-up of the Las Vegas Shooting
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 20, 2017, 07:31:56 am
The Blatant Cover-up of the Las Vegas Shooting - The David Icke Dot-Connector Free Videocast













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Stephen Paddock's Mysterious Trip to Phoenix
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 20, 2017, 07:34:20 am
Stephen Paddock's Mysterious Trip to Phoenix - Las Vegas Shooting Investigation Part 14













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - 5 Questions About Jesus Campos’ Appearance on Ellen
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 20, 2017, 07:38:39 am
Five Glaring Questions About Jesus Campos’ Appearance on Ellen that Need to Be Addressed

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/jesus-campos-ellen-interview/

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'Mandalay Bay Hotel Security Guard Jesus Campos made headlines for reportedly being the first individual to encounter Las Vegas shooting suspect, Stephen Paddock. He has now made his first—and, according to Ellen, his only—public appearance on the Ellen Show.

Campos’ testimony is notable because he was reportedly Paddock’s first victim, sustaining a gunshot wound to the leg as police claim Paddock fired 200 rounds into the hallway of the 32nd floor.

However, Campos’ first interview has only generated more questions as to what actually happened during the massacre, and why crucial aspects of the narrative continue to change. Here are 5 glaring questions from the interview:'











Read more: Five Glaring Questions About Jesus Campos’ Appearance on Ellen that Need to Be Addressed (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/jesus-campos-ellen-interview/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 22, 2017, 10:22:31 pm
ONLY ONE LAWSUIT?!!  ???
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/us/las-vegas-shooting-lawsuit/

Man, oh man this thing just gets stranger and stranger.  Only one lawsuit?  Is this a joke?  ... and does this suit really address 'all' the issues i.e. MULTIPLE SHOOTERS?

HEY! CHECK OUT MY DEVIL HORNS!!
(https://images.imgbox.com/43/0a/nNBsTWkS_o.jpg)

Hey?  I thought it was only Texas university that made the devil signal.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 23, 2017, 08:29:06 am

Link to the lawsuit

https://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/10/11/paige.gasper.-.complaint.pdf



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 23, 2017, 09:27:56 am
2Revolutions,

Thank you for all the hard work you have gone through in order to gain access to this document.

Phoenix



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 23, 2017, 07:22:35 pm
Link to the lawsuit

https://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/10/11/paige.gasper.-.complaint.pdf



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This is ridiculous and odd all at the same time,


There should be a dozen of these suits filed minimum if the number of dead and wounded is even remotely accurate.  We should be seeing a multitude of these suits lumped into one class action.  These suites would include people shot BY OTHER SHOOTERS IN OTHER LOCATIONS.

Las Vegas police and the UNNAMED security company for the concert (GS4?) would also be most likely included in this lawsuit.  For poor response time and closing exits and leading concert goers to the lit areas where the shooters had the best easiest kill shots.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 23, 2017, 08:02:29 pm
I don't get the lawsuit bit.

Probably because I'm not American.
???



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 24, 2017, 06:06:29 am
I don't get the lawsuit bit.

Probably because I'm not American.
???



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I am not a lawyer so I am not familiar with the technical terms.  If it can proven that the casino know the suspected shooter was doing something strange or deliberately delayed calling the cops then they might be liable for slow response time by law enforcement.

The injured are responsible for their medical bills (until we hear otherwise) and any future treatment.  In addition,  will that person be able to return to their regular job. Will this injury effect their ability to earn a living?

Unfortunately, lawsuits are usually the only way that US citizens get some form of compensation but rarely justice.   How many times have you heard that a company settled or paid a fine but admits no wrongdoing.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 24, 2017, 06:53:33 am
I am not a lawyer so I am not familiar with the technical terms.  If it can proven that the casino know the suspected shooter was doing something strange or deliberately delayed calling the cops then they might be liable for slow response time by law enforcement.

The injured are responsible for their medical bills (until we hear otherwise) and any future treatment.  In addition,  will that person be able to return to their regular job. Will this injury effect their ability to earn a living?

Unfortunately, lawsuits are usually the only way that US citizens get some form of compensation but rarely justice.   How many times have you heard that a company settled or paid a fine but admits no wrongdoing.



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I read the words, but I still do not comprehend.

Although we both speak the same language and have common historic heritage, the cultural differences are beyond my comprehension.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 24, 2017, 07:35:49 am
I don't get the lawsuit bit.

Probably because I'm not American.
???



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You're already on the right track.  In USA, especially Las Vegas the land of the lawyer, lawsuits by the numbers are the norm.  When the nation's worst fire disaster killed 'Great White' (I believe) concert goers, there were so many lawsuits, suing everything and anything not nailed down, you had companies like Budweiser which (IMHO) had nothing to do with the fire getting sued.  I'm not making this up see for yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire#Civil_settlements

One lawsuit that just happens to follow the 'official narrative'? Really?  In USA?  Mama didn't raise a fool here.   ;)

Whether lawsuits in USA makes sense or not isn't the point here.  Also, just focusing on this one lonely lawsuit is absurd when you look at the entire landscape here.  Lawsuits 'should be' flying around all over the place.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 24, 2017, 08:06:19 am
You're already on the right track.  In USA, especially Las Vegas the land of the lawyer, lawsuits by the numbers are the norm.  When the nation's worst fire disaster killed 'Great White' (I believe) concert goers, there were so many lawsuits, suing everything and anything not nailed down, you had companies like Budweiser which (IMHO) had nothing to do with the fire getting sued.  I'm not making this up see for yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire#Civil_settlements

One lawsuit that just happens to follow the 'official narrative'? Really?  In USA?  Mama didn't raise a fool here.   ;)

Whether lawsuits in USA makes sense or not isn't the point here.  Also, just focusing on this one lonely lawsuit is absurd when you look at the entire landscape here.  Lawsuits 'should be' flying around all over the place.



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Thanks for putting this into perspective #1.   I am sure most of savvy lawyers have private investigators and inside sources on the speed dial that help them in cases. What evidence have they seen or know makes them what to avoid this case with a ten foot pole?    The evidence of multiple shooters or is there also something else?   Have they looked deeper into Steven Paddock's background?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 24, 2017, 08:25:48 am
Thanks for putting this into perspective #1.   I am sure most of savvy lawyers have private investigators and inside sources on the speed dial that help them in cases. What evidence have they seen or know makes them what to avoid this case with a ten foot pole?    The evidence of multiple shooters or is there also something else?   Have they looked deeper into Steven Paddock's background?



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I'm wondering if lawsuits have already been filed (that we don't even know about) and 'rejected' by courts who have been briefed as to what to 'allow' and not allow in a lawsuit, and this one lonely lawsuit is the 'templet' lawsuit and ANY variation from the template will not be allowed to be filed.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 24, 2017, 10:29:33 am
Evadinggrid,

The thing that confused me about this story was :

WHY ONLY 1LAWSUIT ?

See, there really is a significant cultural difference between you and me.
This is just one example in the way we mis/understand each other's views of the world.
Just imagine how various cultures misunderstand each others perspectives on simple issues.

As with the other posters here on this thread,
I find that it is  extremely suspicious
that there is no publicity about the lack of legal suits
re: one of the most disastrous events in recent American history.

NOTE: For you Americans here, suing someone in the UK is rare.
People also rarely complain if they are overcharged,
given the wrong change in a transaction,
(unless they are overpaid, then they return it !)
call attention to false advertising,
send food back if it is the wrong order or poorly cooked,
anything that involves speaking up and "creating a disturbance".

When I was in hospital,
I started a revolution by encouraging the women on the ward
to buzz for the nurses if they needed assistance going to the lavatory  !
They didn't want "to make a fuss"!

By the time I was discharged,
women were adjusting the lighting rather than "making do ",
adjusting the air conditioning  according to their level of comfort,
and ordering a dessert even if they were unsure about whether they would like it !
After all, they had already paid for it through their taxes.

I told them all that I thought the English were lovely people but way too polite !     ::)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 24, 2017, 04:09:48 pm


NOTE: For you Americans here, suing someone in the UK is rare.
People also rarely complain if they are overcharged,
given the wrong change in a transaction,
(unless they are overpaid, then they return it !)
call attention to false advertising,
send food back if it is the wrong order or poorly cooked,
anything that involves speaking up and "creating a disturbance".



This is a phenomenal post!  It really is.

This is the reason why the NWO hates USA so much, yet turns their whining against them as well.

USA was created / built from the 'complaint department' up.

However, I admire the Europeans who hit the streets in mass and shut down the entire country when they've had enough.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 24, 2017, 06:03:38 pm
It's a bit early to be concerned about only 1 lawsuit. After all, the event only happened a few weeks ago and there's no particular rush. In fact it's often better to wait than risk having to repeatedly amend the particulars later.

The lawsuit is quite interesting, and amusing. She is suing EVERYONE lol. All the owners, manufacturers, management, employees, contractors, security guards..anyone who may have had a role in the narrative (final version)..

BUT they're all named as (John) 'Doe' and (Jane) 'Roe', up to 100 in each category, and the plaintiff will fill in the names later..no joke.

It's actually an accepted practice, but most law firms will not use this method when there is time to find all the information within the statute of limitations, which there obviously is in this case, being at least 3 years for the most minor felonies involved, for example negligence etc..so there are probably many lawsuits currently in the works for this event.

However, the only category where there is just one name is that of the alleged 'perpetrator' - there are no Does/Roes there, just Paddock and his estate..

The other interesting part was the claim against MGM, which was partly failure to surveil and screen guests sufficiently:

"1) failing to properly surveil people coming and going from the hotel;
2) failing to monitor the hotel premises with closed-circuit television  (CCTV)."


So have they been told that there is no CCTV footage? Afaik that has not been announced to the public as yet.

One possible outcome is for the court to rule in favor of MGM, on the grounds that they couldn't have reasonably prevented this using the level of security which is the current industry standard, prompting an immediate enforced change in said industry standard..



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 24, 2017, 11:21:57 pm
ONLY ONE LAWSUIT?!!  ???
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/us/las-vegas-shooting-lawsuit/

Man, oh man this thing just gets stranger and stranger.  Only one lawsuit?  Is this a joke?  ... and does this suit really address 'all' the issues i.e. MULTIPLE SHOOTERS?

HEY! CHECK OUT MY DEVIL HORNS!!
(https://images.imgbox.com/43/0a/nNBsTWkS_o.jpg)

Hey?  I thought it was only Texas university that made the devil signal.



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It seems Miss devil horns herself (Paige Gasper) as been chosen to be the sole spokes person by the MSM / NWO  out of allegedly 100's of victims?  Why?  Control the opposing narrative?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/23/family-las-vegas-victim-wants-answers-lawyer-says-as-authorities-remain-tight-lipped.html

Funny how the MSM are ignoring people like this VVVVVV with much more in-depth questions than Gasper seems to want to know.

Las Vegas Shooting Eyewitness Planet Hollywood (Documents what we already know... multiple shooters in multiple locations)












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Title: Re: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 24, 2017, 11:44:31 pm
Local Hospitals Say NO Gunshot victims night of "DRILL"?












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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Merge
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 25, 2017, 11:10:53 am
2 x Las Vegas threads, the big one in Gen and the little side thread in Chat, now merged.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Oct 25, 2017, 12:34:12 pm
Class action lawsuit filed by Brady Center 10/10/17:

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-bump-stock-manufacturers-and-retailers-on-behalf-of-las-vegas-shooting-victims-300533926.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 25, 2017, 03:03:40 pm
::)

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Las Vegas shooter's laptop missing its hard drive

https://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shooters-laptop-missing-hard-drive/story?id=50709285

A laptop computer recovered from the Las Vegas hotel room where Stephen Paddock launched the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was missing its hard drive, depriving investigators of a potential key source of information on why he killed and maimed so many people, ABC News has learned.

Paddock is believed to have removed the hard drive before fatally shooting himself, and the missing device has not yet been recovered, sources told ABC News.

Investigators digging into Paddock’s background also learned he purchased software designed to erase files from a hard drive, but without the hard drive to examine it is impossible to know if he ever used the software, one source said.

The absence of substantial digital clues has left investigators struggling to piece together what triggered Paddock to kill 58 innocent concertgoers and injure more than 500 others on Oct. 1.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Paddock Arrested for Kiddie p0rn
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 25, 2017, 04:11:10 pm
Las Vegas shooter's younger brother Bruce Paddock, 59, is arrested after police find more than 600 images of child pornography on his computer
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5016979/Las-Vegas-shooter-s-brother-arrested-child-porn.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 25, 2017, 04:12:29 pm
::)

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Las Vegas shooter's laptop missing its hard drive

https://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shooters-laptop-missing-hard-drive/story?id=50709285

A laptop computer recovered from the Las Vegas hotel room where Stephen Paddock launched the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was missing its hard drive, depriving investigators of a potential key source of information on why he killed and maimed so many people, ABC News has learned.

Paddock is believed to have removed the hard drive before fatally shooting himself, and the missing device has not yet been recovered, sources told ABC News.

Investigators digging into Paddock’s background also learned he purchased software designed to erase files from a hard drive, but without the hard drive to examine it is impossible to know if he ever used the software, one source said.

The absence of substantial digital clues has left investigators struggling to piece together what triggered Paddock to kill 58 innocent concertgoers and injure more than 500 others on Oct. 1.



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Just like the vanishing CCTV . . .

/me  looks in utter disbelief



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 25, 2017, 07:27:43 pm
I see that no one has picked up and further investigated
the story that I posted a couple weeks ago
about there being 2 Stephen Paddocks.

2 different photos.
The second one I found had a pilot's license
and 30 different home addresses,
one which was in Mesquite, Nevada,
the same as the body identified in the hotel room as "Stephen Paddock", the alleged mass murderer.

Now I find this very suspicious,
as it has just slipped through the cracks.


I'll have to go back through my previous posts to re-post the source of this info.

Hang in there.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - NEW YORK TIMES TIMELINE
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 25, 2017, 07:33:30 pm
New timeline for Las Vegas massacre shows security guard Jesus Campos was shot a minute AFTER gunman began firing on crowd, contradicting previous police reports
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5015241/New-timeline-Las-Vegas-massacre.html

A new timeline for the Las Vegas massacre has been released, putting the shooting of hotel security guard Jesus Campos just after the slaughter began rather than just before - as cops previously claimed. Digital experts working for The New York Times analyzed 30 videos from the murderous rampage on October 1 to piece together a chronology of events.

They determined that 64-year-old Stephen Paddock began firing at the Route 91 Harvest festival concertgoers at 10.05pm, starting out with single shots. According to The Times, Mandalay Bay security guard Campos was shot a minute later - at 10.06pm - and not before the massacre began, as police had said earlier.


NEW YORK TIMES TIMELINE

10pm: Country singer Jason Aldean is performing for a large crowd at the Route 91 Harvest festival in Las Vegas

10.05pm: Stephen Paddock begins firing his first rounds from the Mandalay Bay hotel, using single shots rather than automatic bursts

10.06pm: Security guard Jesus Campos is shot through the door of Paddock's hotel room after being spotted in the corridor outside his suite

10.06pm: Paddock fires his first and second automatic bursts into the crowd

10.07pm: Paddock fires his third and fourth automatic bursts into the crowd

10.09pm: Paddock fires his fifth burst

10.10pm: Paddock fires shots presumed to be indoors - possibly at Campos again

10.11pm: Paddock fires his sixth and seventh burst, the latter believed to be at cops

10.12pm: Paddock fires his eighth and ninth bursts

10.13pm: Paddock fires his tenth burst

10.14pm: Paddock fires his eleventh burst

10.15pm: Paddock fires his twelfth burst, and then stops shooting

10.22pm: Cops close in on Paddock's 32nd floor room

11.20pm: Cops break his hotel room door down and find him dead inside

Senior story producer Malachy Brown told CBS: 'Ours isn't the definitive picture of what happened. More information will emerge, but it does give us new insights into what happened.' But the rest of their timeline mostly matches what police have reported in their latest briefings.

The firing continues in a series of 12 bursts from 10.05pm until 10.15pm.

At 10.22pm, the firing stops and cops are outside Paddock's hotel room.

Nearly an hour later - at 11.20pm - they break into his suite and find him dead on the floor.

They estimate Paddock fired about 900 rounds during the massacre, which claimed 58 lives.

Hundreds of others were wounded.

Browne, in a separate article about the timeline, explained how the study was produced: 'The process can be as simple as comparing a video with Google Street View to identify camera location or extracting file data with a smartphone app — or as difficult as analyzing each frame of a video and the amplitude and frequency of every second of audio.'



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 25, 2017, 08:10:16 pm
I see that no one has picked up and further investigated
the story that I posted a couple weeks ago
about there being 2 Stephen Paddocks.

2 different photos.
The second one I found had a pilot's license
and 30 different home addresses,
one which was in Mesquite, Nevada,
the same as the body identified in the hotel room as "Stephen Paddock", the alleged mass murderer.

Now I find this very suspicious,
as it has just slipped through the cracks.


I'll have to go back through my previous posts to re-post the source of this info.

Hang in there.



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Hey Phoenix,

I believe #1 showed two photos side by side of "Steven Paddock" found in the hotel room and the Steven Paddock with a tattoo of number on his neck near his Adams apple.  This might further collaborate what you said.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 25, 2017, 08:20:00 pm
Thanks, 2Revolutions,
for refreshing my memory.
I remember that photo now.

This other Stephen Paddock also had a history of being affiliated with the CIA.

I 've got to look through my previous posts
as it was from a YouTube video.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 25, 2017, 10:03:52 pm
Class action lawsuit filed by Brady Center 10/10/17:

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-bump-stock-manufacturers-and-retailers-on-behalf-of-las-vegas-shooting-victims-300533926.html



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PLEASE  ::)

That's a 'political' lawsuit and in no way a real 'class action' suit.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Paddock Arrested for Kiddie p0rn + Today its Sandy Hook was Pedo
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 26, 2017, 05:33:16 am
The day after the authorities decided Paddocks brother is also a Pedo . . .

Coincidence Theorist Required



Las Vegas shooter's younger brother Bruce Paddock, 59, is arrested after police find more than 600 images of child pornography on his computer
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5016979/Las-Vegas-shooter-s-brother-arrested-child-porn.html



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FBI files reveal Sandy Hook shooter interested in paedophilia

https://www.rt.com/usa/407798-sandy-hook-fbi-adam-lanza-pedophilia/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

'Nearly five years on from the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, the FBI has declassified 1,500 pages of documents relating to the fourth most deadly shooting in modern US history.

On December 14, 2012, Adam Lanza killed his mother at their home before driving to the school and killing 20 first grade children and six staff members.

All of the children were between six and seven years old. Lanza then killed himself when first responders began to arrive at the scene.

On Tuesday, the FBI released a tranche of documents which reveal new information about Lanza and the investigation into his crimes.

Perhaps the most significant revelation in the heavily censored documents is a suggestion from the FBI’s behavioral analysis unit that Lanza “had an interest in children that could be categorized as pedophilia.”

The suggestion is backed up by another document which shows that an unidentified woman, who had an online relationship with Lanza for more than two years, telling FBI agents the killer said that sexual relationships between adults and children could be “possibly beneficial to both parties.”'

Read more: FBI files reveal Sandy Hook shooter interested in paedophilia (https://www.rt.com/usa/407798-sandy-hook-fbi-adam-lanza-pedophilia/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas laptop hard drive missing, brother charged with child porn
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 26, 2017, 05:39:33 am
Las Vegas shooter's laptop hard drive missing, brother charged with child porn

https://www.rt.com/usa/407799-stephen-paddock-bruce-paddock/

(https://admin62b4b.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/59f11674fc7e9361758b4567.jpg)

Investigators recovered a laptop computer from Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock's hotel room, but its hard drive is missing. In a separate case, Paddock’s brother has been charged with possession of child pornography.

Investigators believe Paddock removed the hard drive from the laptop before he fatally shot himself, following the October 1 mass shooting from his Mandalay Bay hotel room in Las Vegas, according to unnamed sources, ABC News reported Wednesday.

Read more
Oct 2, 2017 - Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. The Mandalay Bay hotel-casino is seen from a distance as Las Vegas Metro Police block off Las Vegas Blvd. the morning after a gunman fired on concert goers. © Global Look PressLas Vegas mass shooting suite must be preserved, court orders
Vital clues may have been stored on the hard drive as to why Paddock killed so many people.

The missing device has not yet been recovered, but investigators looking into Paddock’s background discovered he had purchased software designed to erase files from a hard drive. Without examining the drive, however, it would be impossible to know if he used the software, one unnamed source told ABC News.

As authorities continue to sift through every aspect of Paddock's life, the absence of substantial digital clues has left them in a bind, as investigators try to piece together the shooter's motives.

Paddock, like other mass shooters in the past, has allegedly attempted to hide digital clues.'


Read more: Las Vegas shooter's laptop hard drive missing, brother charged with child porn
 (https://www.rt.com/usa/407799-stephen-paddock-bruce-paddock/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: David Icke Bot on Oct 27, 2017, 06:33:51 am
Las Vegas hotel security guard left US after massacre - border patrol

https://www.rt.com/usa/407883-vegas-shooting-security-guard-mexico/

'Jesus Campos, the Mandalay Bay security guard who was injured by the Las Vegas gunman, traveled to Mexico after the massacre, according to a Customs and Border Patrol report. His disappearance opens more questions into the already murky mass shooting.

Customs and Border Patrol documents show that the 25-year-old Campos entered the US from Mexico at the San Ysidro border crossing near San Diego, California, one week after the mass shooting, Fox News reported.

The CBP documents show Campos crossed back into the US on October 8, and appeared to be driving a rental car with California plates. There is no record of how long he was out of the country.

The union that represents Campos told Fox that it was aware of his trip to Mexico, adding that it was a previously planned visit.

Campos had been scheduled to do several interviews with major news networks, including Fox, but then canceled them at the last minute and disappeared for days. He resurfaced in a sudden appearance on the Ellen DeGeneres Show for an exclusive interview. DeGeneres is a branding partner of MGM, the owners of Mandalay Bay hotel.

In the interview, Campos gave his recollections of the night, but didn't reveal much new information. DeGeneres didn't press him with questions on the ever-changing timeline.'











Read more: Las Vegas hotel security guard left US after massacre - border patrol (https://www.rt.com/usa/407883-vegas-shooting-security-guard-mexico/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 27, 2017, 06:34:47 pm
Vegas Operation Setting Sights On The Internet / You And Me, those Who Question The Official Narrative.

Does this guy look like a "gunshot to the head" survivor or a perfectly healthy crisis actor?
(https://images2.imgbox.com/85/1c/B41cnth4_o.jpg)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/las-vegas-shooting-victims-slammed-death-threats-article-1.3591391



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 28, 2017, 08:31:38 am
Not the Crisis Actors Theme Ride.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 28, 2017, 09:51:48 am
Will the REAL Paddock please STAND UP?!?!!?













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 28, 2017, 10:17:50 am
As promised a couple days ago,
above  is the info I posted with photos
of the OTHER Stephen Paddock
during the first week of October 2017.

When you look at the picture of the man with Marilou,
look closely and you can see
what looks like a faint tattoo of the number 13 on his neck.

I believe #1Troublemaker posted 2 photos on this thread,
one of a guy with the 13, and one without.

Perhaps this  identity confusion has all been resolved by now.
If so, sorry.

Sometimes I have to take a break from visiting the forum
when the news is pretty bleak,
so I know I 'm not up to date re: this issue.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 28, 2017, 12:46:08 pm
Guard shot in Las Vegas massacre sequestered in free MGM hotel

https://foxnews.com/us/2017/10/27/guard-shot-in-las-vegas-massacre-sequestered-in-free-mgm-hotel.html

Jesus Campos, the hotel security guard who was wounded during the Las Vegas massacre, is staying for free at an undisclosed hotel owned by MGM Resorts International, according to the company.

The arrangement has led to speculation that MGM wants to prevent the media from questioning Campos about the Oct. 1 massacre, in which a gunman opened fire from a hotel owned by the company. Campos, who was shot in a leg during the rampage that killed 58 people and injured more than 500, is on paid leave while he recovers.

“I really think it’s about not allowing reporters and lawyers and investigators to get to him,” said attorney Mo Aziz, who represents one of the Las Vegas shooting victims. “I think they want to make sure he doesn’t make any statement that could really become problematic. And the reason they put him up on their property is so that they’ll know at all times where he is and who’s talking with him.”


Read more -- >  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/27/guard-shot-in-las-vegas-massacre-sequestered-in-free-mgm-hotel.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/27/guard-shot-in-las-vegas-massacre-sequestered-in-free-mgm-hotel.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 28, 2017, 01:21:02 pm



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Thanks For That Bombshell Phoenix

If THEY are lying to us about Paddock, it stands to reason THEY (the globalists) are lying to us about this entire operation including the death count.

REALTED
As I posted along time ago it's obvious 'the real Paddock' is a CIA cutout with FAKE occupations and residences all over the place.

Here It Is Again - Paddock Was Arms Dealer And Deal Went BAD (In reality there was NO 'DEAL'.  This was an asymmetric warfare operation against the American people, Second Amendment, internet, and to increase the surveillance / police state.)
http://rense.com/general96/paddockarmsdealer.html


A Rense Exclusive
From:  Source Protected
Date: October 27, 2017

Analysts continue to be amazed by the many links between the CIA and Stephen Paddock—and who have documented that Paddock was a CIA arms pilot delivering thousands of weapons to a Mexican drug cartel between 2006-2011 in what is now known as " Operation Fast and Furious" — and who used in these arms deliveries his2004 Cirrus Design Corp SR20 single engine plane having the Aircraft Registration Number N5343m —and that FAA records show him owning from 2 June 2006 to February 2010 —but that is now owned by an American defense company named VOLANT —and whose motto on their website says: "Serving THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE". -

http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N5343M
http://www.volant-associates.com/

According to this report, upon the FBI searching the Mandalay Bay Hotel room used by CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock, a cell phone charge was discovered that had no accompanying phone —with SVRtechnology experts noting that this type of charger is used to charge a CP502520 3.0V 600mAh Li-MnO2 Non-rechargeable Thin Cell Battery used in various communication devices by both US Special Forces and CIA forces.--https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4631223/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-hotel-room-police-find-charger/

The company making this unique lithium battery, this report details, is Ultralife Corporation, based in Newark, New York, that specializes in military communications systems for the Pentagon—and whose lead engineer for this particular communication systems development was John Beilman.

According to a source in the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department:: “The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.The Mandalay Bay affair was likely part of a covert program to transfer weapons from the vaults of the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agency of Homeland Security), fitted with hidden RFID tracking chips, to ISIS militants inside the USA. Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun-running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.

From these informal sources, three salient issues have surfaced:
- indisputable evidence that a squad of multiple shooters were involved rather than just a lone gunman
- the relocation of one of Paddock’s airplanes between Virginia airports after an ATF agent was killed in the cover-up of Eric Holder’s Fast and Furious gun-peddling operation
- the visits of Paddock and companion Marilou Danley to the UAE, Jordan and Israel while President Barack Obama was starting to turn against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

Those morsels of vital information indicate that Paddock served for a long-time as contract agent for CIA-FBI gun-running and as a possible trained assassin.

The Mandalay Bay affair was likely part of a covert program to transfer weapons from the vaults of the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agency of Homeland Security), fitted with hidden RFID tracking chips, to ISIS militants inside the USA. Suspecting a sting operation, the ISIS team in Las Vegas shot him, Paddock to death in his room at the Mandalay immediately before proceeding to fire at the crowd of revelers attending the Route 91 Harvest Festival on Sunday night, October 1.

That’s how one headline described the 2013 deaths of 20-year veteran ATF agent Paul Parisi and his wife Janine inside their home in Chantilly, Virginia. As an arson and explosives expert, Parisi was stationed at the local ATF field office, near the top-level forensic laboratory at Quantico, the FBI Academy, which also serves the scientific requests of Pentagon’s investigative unit called the Defense Security Service (DSS).

One of the questions related to Fast and Furious was the possible role of a suspected mafia mole inside U.S. law enforcement, so DNA testing and chemical analysis were meticulously done on recovered Fast and Furious guns, putting Paul Parisi on the wrong side in the eyes of certain higher-up circles who were not eager to see his forensic findings reach Congress.

The Awan brothers team had control of the computers in the House of Representatives, thanks to Debbie Wasserman Schultz; Tim Kaine along with the California Democrats were staunch in their support for open immigration and sanctuary cities, havens for ISIS sleeper cells; Obama’s Pizzagate team set up a transport network for DACA children, ensuring a bright future for Islam in the New World; and Khizer Khan was gaining influence in the DNC. The counterattack was proceeding way faster than Saladin’s slow meandering drive against the Crusaders.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 28, 2017, 03:29:11 pm
WOW!

:o



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 28, 2017, 05:13:39 pm



REALTED
As I posted along time ago it's obvious 'the real Paddock' is a CIA cutout with FAKE occupations and residences all over the place.

Here It Is Again - Paddock Was Arms Dealer And Deal Went BAD (In reality there was NO 'DEAL'.  This was an asymmetric warfare operation against the American people, Second Amendment, internet, and to increase the surveillance / police state.)
http://rense.com/general96/paddockarmsdealer.html


The article looks like bullsh*t

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Analysts continue to be amazed by the many links between the CIA and Stephen Paddock—and who have documented that Paddock was a CIA arms pilot delivering thousands of weapons to a Mexican drug cartel between 2006-2011 in what is now known as " Operation Fast and Furious"

Where have these "anal-ysts" documented this? Maybe is true but where is evidence?

Quote
According to this report, upon the FBI searching the Mandalay Bay Hotel room used by CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock, a cell phone charge was discovered that had no accompanying phone —with SVRtechnology experts noting that this type of charger is used to charge a CP502520 3.0V 600mAh Li-MnO2 Non-rechargeable Thin Cell Battery used in various communication devices by both US Special Forces and CIA forces.--https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4631223/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-hotel-room-police-find-charger/

This is classic one. Notice something wrong in the bold part? hahaha :D Propaganda artist like to make false connection.

They describe him as "CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock" So when not provided proof of this, then they state this as a fact. Propaganda artist does this.

Sun article only say that extra charger found but nothing else to support this article.

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According to a source in the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department:: “The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.The Mandalay Bay affair was likely part of a covert program to transfer weapons from the vaults of the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agency of Homeland Security), fitted with hidden RFID tracking chips, to ISIS militants inside the USA. Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun-running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.

From these informal sources, three salient issues have surfaced:
- indisputable evidence that a squad of multiple shooters were involved rather than just a lone gunman
- the relocation of one of Paddock’s airplanes between Virginia airports after an ATF agent was killed in the cover-up of Eric Holder’s Fast and Furious gun-peddling operation
- the visits of Paddock and companion Marilou Danley to the UAE, Jordan and Israel while President Barack Obama was starting to turn against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

Unnamed sources. From article written by......Unnamed author. :D

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The Mandalay Bay affair was likely part of a covert program to transfer weapons from the vaults of the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agency of Homeland Security), fitted with hidden RFID tracking chips, to ISIS militants inside the USA. Suspecting a sting operation, the ISIS team in Las Vegas shot him, Paddock to death in his room at the Mandalay immediately before proceeding to fire at the crowd of revelers attending the Route 91 Harvest Festival on Sunday night, October 1.

Ohhhh the purpose of the propaganda comes up. It was ISIS who done it. hahaha :D

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The Awan brothers team had control of the computers in the House of Representatives, thanks to Debbie Wasserman Schultz; Tim Kaine along with the California Democrats were staunch in their support for open immigration and sanctuary cities, havens for ISIS sleeper cells; Obama’s Pizzagate team set up a transport network for DACA children, ensuring a bright future for Islam in the New World; and Khizer Khan was gaining influence in the DNC. The counterattack was proceeding way faster than Saladin’s slow meandering drive against the Crusaders.

OMFG this is the worse crap ever :D



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Oct 28, 2017, 06:09:40 pm
The article looks like bullsh*t

Where have these "anal-ysts" documented this? Maybe is true but where is evidence?

This is classic one. Notice something wrong in the bold part? hahaha :D Propaganda artist like to make false connection.

They describe him as "CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock" So when not provided proof of this, then they state this as a fact. Propaganda artist does this.

Sun article only say that extra charger found but nothing else to support this article.

Unnamed sources. From article written by......Unnamed author. :D

Ohhhh the purpose of the propaganda comes up. It was ISIS who done it. hahaha :D

OMFG this is the worse crap ever :D



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Not saying article is 100% accurate (especially the ISIS IS US part) but every time someone gets close to the truth (in this case) i.e. Paddock's probable CIA tie, Q or Dick spring into action to run interference

Jeff Rense himself is running 'interference' with the ISIS IS US "did it" narrative.

The bottomline is that Paddock is / was most likely a CIA drug running cutout.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Oct 28, 2017, 06:29:19 pm
Not saying article is 100% accurate (especially the ISIS IS US part) but every time someone gets close to the truth (in this case) i.e. Paddock's probable CIA tie, Q or Dick spring into action to run interference

Jeff Rense himself is running 'interference' with the ISIS IS US "did it" narrative.

The bottomline is that Paddock is / was most likely a CIA drug running cutout.



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Hey Lizzie(tish), no need to be on the defense, I was not attacking you. But you post obvious crap propaganda article but it is I who is "running interference"? That is too funny. :D

I am happy to listen your evidence for Paddock CIA connection. Please say why you believe Paddock is CIA with reference.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 28, 2017, 06:34:58 pm
Just a quick note.

I post a lot of things, it does not mean that because I post an article its true, or that I believe it to be 100% true.
:P

Welcome to the Post Reality Hyper-normalized World.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 28, 2017, 08:37:42 pm
MR Stallion,

I have a Question for you.

I know you stated  that English is not your first language,
so could you please explain to me what the name called "Lizzie(tish)"  means ?

What language is this, as I have never  heard it used in American, British , Australian or New Zealand variations of English ?
Is it meant to be something derogatory in your native language?

Thank you for you anticipated cooperation.

With good will,

Phoenix Rising



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 29, 2017, 01:49:31 pm
Authorities put brakes on information flow in Las Vegas shooting

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/authorities-put-brakes-on-information-flow-in-las-vegas-shooting/

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By Oct. 13 — the last time the Metropolitan Police Department or the FBI addressed the media or public — something had changed. The sheriff, who had been straightforward and stern, was now emotional and at times combative. Both he and the FBI failed to provide much new information, and at the end of the meeting, they refused to take questions.

Since that day, the only person who has shed more light on the investigation is Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos, who was shot in the leg while approaching the gunman’s room. His platform to share that information? “The Ellen DeGeneres Show,” which aired last week. He hasn’t made himself available to the media since.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 29, 2017, 01:57:46 pm
Not sure if this is relevant, but found it interesting.

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Couple with Henderson ties die in crash after surviving Las Vegas shooting

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/couple-with-henderson-ties-die-in-crash-after-surviving-las-vegas-shooting/

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Two days after the shooting attack, the couple, who lived in Henderson part time and owned a plumbing company, returned to their Riverside County home in California.

They would go on to spend the next two weeks more in love than ever with each other and with life.

“After the shooting, they heard from all of the people they cared about most. They were so happy,” said Brooke, 20. “The last two weeks of their lives were really just spent living in the moment.”

But on the night of Oct. 16, the couple’s younger daughter, 16-year-old Madison Carver, heard a loud bang outside her window. When she ran down the street and rounded the corner, a familiar vehicle engulfed in flames came into view. Dennis, 52, and Lorraine, 53, had died together less than half a mile from their home.

According to the Riverside County Fire Department, their vehicle crashed into a metal gate outside their community at 10:50 p.m. on the 20000 block of Avenida De Arboles. It took firefighters nearly an hour to completely put out the fire, the department said in a statement.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 29, 2017, 02:03:58 pm
When the media is skeptical of the unanswered questions and the official narrative you know something is wrong.

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Questions remain in Las Vegas Strip shooting investigation

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/questions-remain-in-las-vegas-strip-shooting-investigation/

Some of the many still-to-be-answered questions regarding the Oct. 1 shooting on the Strip that left 58 people dead and injured more than 500 others:

• What was the gunman’s motive?

• When did the gunman start planning his massacre?

• Where did the gunman store all of the weapons before the shooting?

• Why did the gunman stop shooting?

• Considering the gunman killed himself, why are investigators withholding so much information about the case? Do they believe he had accomplices?

• What was the gunman planning to do with the explosives found in his car?

• What evidence shows he might have planned to escape?

• What exactly were the 23 guns found in the hotel suite? How many were equipped with bump stocks? How many had been fired? How many jammed? How many rounds did he fire?

• What else was recovered from the gunman’s hotel room and his homes in Mesquite and Reno?

• When did authorities determine the hard drive from the gunman’s laptop was missing?

• Which law enforcement agency is in charge of what parts of the investigation?


Read more at link -->  https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/questions-remain-in-las-vegas-strip-shooting-investigation/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/questions-remain-in-las-vegas-strip-shooting-investigation/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - "Fear and Grieving"
Post by: poseidonlost on Oct 30, 2017, 10:31:55 pm
Hey y'all. I've spent the past few nights listening to this three times over. I first heard it live then had to find it online.

The entire episode is excellent, but the last caller into the show (at the end) points out something very interesting about the recorded police communications clip featured in the show. The SWAT or w/e officer says there is only one suspect down meaning the officer expected and/or heard more than one shooter. Immediately the radio operator asks him to change channels.

Other major points:
-MGM owns half (maybe more) of the strip, Mandalay Bay included
-Ellen DeGeneres installed her own slot machines recently on MGM property and was the only one to interview the security guard publicly
-The owner of MGM sold stock and laid down put options soon beforehand (Silverstein 9/11 style) MUST be looked into











I haven't heard much about MGM ownership over all of this property. Vegas. What happens there, never happened.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 31, 2017, 11:14:36 am
Las Vegas shooting: Officer fired weapon in Paddock's suite, sheriff says

https://foxnews.com/us/2017/10/31/las-vegas-shooting-officer-fired-weapon-in-paddocks-suite-sheriff-says.html

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A Las Vegas police officer accidentally fired his gun in Stephen Paddock’s suite the night of the mass shooting, the department’s sheriff said Monday, breaking more than two weeks of silence and confirming for the first time that an officer fired his weapon during the Oct. 1 incident.

Sheriff Joe Lombardo said the gun went off after the officers made entry to the room, but the rounds were not fired in the room where Paddock was found dead.

“It happened and we’re investigating it, just like we do with any officer-involved use of force,” Lombardo told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “Nobody was struck.”

It was not immediately clear what caused the officer to discharge his weapon or why Paddock stopped firing on a crowd from his room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

Lombardo also confirmed to the newspaper the only cameras on Paddock’s floor were facing the elevators, and there were no cameras pointed at Paddock's corner suite or towards the stairwell door next to Paddock's room. Security guard Jesus Campos, who was shot by Paddock before the mass shooting began, has said Paddock barricaded the stairwell door.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Oct 31, 2017, 05:22:23 pm
Very interesting that on the same day that lawyers are inspecting the concert site in Las Vegas a terrorist attack occurs in New York.

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Experts to diagram Route 91 grounds in Las Vegas for lawsuit

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/experts-to-diagram-route-91-grounds-in-las-vegas-for-lawsuit

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Attorneys and forensic experts plan to inspect the Route 91 Harvest concert venue, where 58 people were killed and hundreds were injured in the Oct. 1 shooting, according to an agreement made in court Monday.

The inspection, slated for Tuesday, will include photographing and diagramming of the the concert grounds. The inspection could pave the way for vendors to retrieve their belongings from the site by the end of the week, said attorney Brian Nettles, who represents Rachel Sheppard, a California woman who suffered three gunshot wounds in the massacre.


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The attorney said he would ask that MGM Resorts not try to influence any witness in the case, and he planned to take the deposition of security guard Jesus Campos, a key witness in the criminal investigation and civil litigation who has been staying at an MGM property at the company’s expense.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Still No Video of Vegas Shooter, Vid of NYC Terrorist Instantly
Post by: EvadingGrid on Nov 02, 2017, 05:45:48 am
Video of NYC Terrorist Instantly Released—Still No Video of Vegas Shooter Despite 1000s of Cameras
https://www.activistpost.com/2017/11/video-nyc-terrorist-instantly-released-still-no-video-vegas-shooter-despite-1000s-cameras.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Nov 02, 2017, 07:00:14 pm
Story changes again.  Campos was not the only security on the scene when shooter started attack according to MGM.

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Mandalay Bay says four armed officers were on the 32nd floor as the Las Vegas shooter attacked. Should they have acted?

https://washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/01/mandalay-bay-says-four-armed-officers-were-on-the-32nd-floor-as-the-las-vegas-shooter-attacked-should-they-have-acted/

Note: This story has been updated with new information from Las Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo, who disputes MGM’s claim that police responded to the 32nd floor immediately.

At least two Las Vegas police officers and two armed private security officers were on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel during the time that Stephen Paddock was firing down into a concert crowd, killing 58 and wounding hundreds, according to a statement from the hotel’s owners, MGM Resorts International. Should those officers have tried to stop the massacre, knowing at least one person was firing a high-powered rifle and they probably had only semiautomatic pistols?

And did they notify anyone of the location of the shooting? Las Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo has repeatedly said police didn’t know that a security guard had been shot until four more officers climbed the stairs to the 32nd floor at 10:17 p.m., 12 minutes after the shooting started and two minutes after it ended. The shooting was a month ago today.

The conclusion that the four officers were nearby during the massacre is inescapable from the statement issued by MGM Resorts. It was first sent on Oct. 12 to clarify the timeline of events which involved the shooting of security officer Jesus Campos near the outset of Paddock’s onslaught, and whether Mandalay Bay alerted police to the Campos shooting. MGM said, and Lombardo agreed the next day, that Campos was shot at about 10:05 p.m., and reported the shooting within 40 seconds of Paddock beginning to fire out of his suite at the end of one 32nd floor hallway.

“Metro officers were together with armed Mandalay Bay security officers in the building when Campos first reported that shots were fired over the radio,” MGM said. “These Metro officers and armed Mandalay Bay security officers immediately responded to the 32nd floor.” [Emphasis added. The full statement is at the bottom of this post.]

This makes sense. Of course Mandalay Bay security would respond immediately to a report of shots fired in the hotel. It also is unsurprising that Las Vegas police happened to already be in the large Mandalay Bay complex and would check out the call as well. The rapid response seems to be corroborated by building engineer Stephen Schuck, who like Campos was dispatched to investigate a stairwell door that had been tampered with, apparently by Paddock. A recording of Schuck’s radio transmissions shows he reported, “Call the police, someone’s firing a gun up here, someone’s firing a rifle on the 32nd floor down the hallway.” Schuck tells the dispatcher he’s unsure what room, but it’s in the 100 wing. In less than a minute, Schuck reports on his radio, “Security is here,” and he can be heard advising them, “100 hallway, don’t go.”

So what did those police and security officers do? And why did a team of officers who headed up the stairs in search of the shooter have to find the 32nd floor themselves, over a 10-minute period, rather than go directly there? When they arrived, they reported the Campos wounding, but no more shots fired, so they evacuated the floor, and an hour later blew open Paddock’s suite door to find him dead.

Sheriff Lombardo said in a news conference on Oct. 13 that he agreed with MGM’s timeline statement released the day before, which eliminated the prior six-minute gap between when Campos was wounded and when Paddock began firing into the concert crowd. But he did not take any questions, then or since, and his department has not responded to multiple inquiries from The Washington Post. MGM also declined to answer questions.

UPDATE, Nov. 2: On Wednesday night, KLAS-TV in Las Vegas aired an interview with Sheriff Joe Lombardo. Lombardo said that “we had two officers that were present at the Mandalay Bay handling another call for service. They become aware of a possible active shooter.” He said the officers “ascended up through the stairwell to, you know, a couple of floors, and then they encountered the blocked doorway, similar to what Mr. Campos had described. So that was right around 10 minutes they were able to do that. So, I mean, that’s pretty amazing in public safety time. You call dispatch and get advised, you formulate a plan, you ascend the stairwells, you have no idea what floor it is, you’re receiving information from disparate directions, and then you encounter this blocked doorway, and that was right around 10 minutes.” He said the shooting had stopped by the time officers arrived.

Lombardo’s comments contradict MGM’s claims that Las Vegas officers responded immediately to the 32nd floor. He also indicated that the officers had “no idea what floor it is,” even though both Campos and Schuck had radioed in their location on the 32nd floor. The Post has asked the sheriff and MGM about this latest version of events, but has not received a response from either.


More at link --->  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/01/mandalay-bay-says-four-armed-officers-were-on-the-32nd-floor-as-the-las-vegas-shooter-attacked-should-they-have-acted/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/01/mandalay-bay-says-four-armed-officers-were-on-the-32nd-floor-as-the-las-vegas-shooter-attacked-should-they-have-acted/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Nov 02, 2017, 07:08:01 pm
Las Vegas shooting: News organizations file lawsuits alleging officials are violating public records law

https://foxnews.com/us/2017/11/02/las-vegas-shooting-news-organizations-file-lawsuits-alleging-officials-are-violating-public-records-law.html

Several news organizations have filed lawsuits urging officials to release more information about the Las Vegas shooting, claiming they are violating public records law by keeping many of the details a secret.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and the FBI have been tight-lipped in recent weeks amid a mounting outcry from the public for more information on the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

“A full month later, significant questions remain unanswered about the shooter’s actions and the response of public agencies,” the lawsuit says, according to the Los Angeles Times. Authorities’ “blanket refusal to produce any of the records pursuant to the requests is improper, and all requested information and records should be produced without redactions.”

The lawsuit, one of two filed late Wednesday in Clark County, Nev., district court, demands police hand over body camera footage, 911 call recordings, dispatch calls, evidence logs and surveillance footage obtained from the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Demands More Public Questioning Rather Than Simply Fading Away
Post by: David Icke Bot on Nov 03, 2017, 05:38:23 am
The Las Vegas Massacre, Amid A Revolving News Cycle, Demands More Public Questioning Rather Than Simply Fading Away

http://fmshooter.com/las-vegas-massacre-amid-revolving-news-cycle-demands-public-questioning-rather-simply-fading-away/

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'It is without a doubt, our news cycle – in the age of 24/7 constant-connectedness – moves at a breakneck pace. With so much information and news reaching us, it’s easy to become overburdened and burned out on the world around us and the things taking place. It is true, too, that the mainstream media dictates what stays center in the mind of the public and what is allowed to fade away and be forgotten. It is of the utmost importance we remain aware – however exhaustive it may be – of stories that just don’t add up.

Enter the Las Vegas shooting; the worst mass-shooting in U.S. history…

On October 1, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock opened fire on a country music festival from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel, which overlooked the festival venue. Paddock’s onslaught left 58 dead and 546 injured.

A full month later, and we are still without any answers. Even more worryingly, the Vegas shooting has disappeared from any cable news channel. Even online, discussion over the shooting has all but vanished, save from the more conspiratorial corners of the web.'


Read more: The Las Vegas Massacre, Amid A Revolving News Cycle, Demands More Public Questioning Rather Than Simply Fading Away (http://fmshooter.com/las-vegas-massacre-amid-revolving-news-cycle-demands-public-questioning-rather-simply-fading-away/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Classic Example Of The Media Brainwashing
Post by: Richie Allen Show on Nov 03, 2017, 05:52:06 am
Las Vegas Shooting Is Classic Example Of The Media Brainwashing The Masses Into Believing Anything.













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Title: Las Vegas - Massive Twist: Cops Outside Shooter’s Door BEFORE Attack Started...
Post by: David Icke Bot on Nov 04, 2017, 05:38:03 am
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The Activist Post


Massive Vegas Twist: Report Puts Cops Outside Shooter’s Door BEFORE Attack Started
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/11/massive-vegas-twist-report-puts-cops-outside-shooters-door-attack-started.html


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'One month after the Las Vegas shooting, there are a number of remaining questions about what led up to the massacre and how it unfolded, but there are also a several questions about why the timeline continues to change drastically—and the latest change puts law enforcement outside the shooter’s door minutes before the massacre began.

Some of the most glaring changes in the timeline have revolved around the account of Mandalay Bay Hotel security guard Jesus Campos, who was reportedly injured by suspected shooter Stephen Paddock. Campos went from being just another causality in the shooting to Paddock’s first victim, who was shot only once in the leg, despite the fact that the shooter fired 200 rounds down the hallway in his direction.

During an interview on Fox News with Tucker Carlson, an attorney for the victims revealed that not only did police officers respond to Campos after he was shot, they were right outside of Paddock’s door before he began shooting out of his hotel room window.

“As of yesterday it was that two—we knew about Campos—but there were two other police officers from MGM that were on the floor prior to the shooting,” Craig Eiland said.'


Read More : Massive Vegas Twist: Report Puts Cops Outside Shooter’s Door BEFORE Attack Started (http://www.activistpost.com/2017/11/massive-vegas-twist-report-puts-cops-outside-shooters-door-attack-started.html)


Icke (http://davidicke.com/article/436102/massive-vegas-twist-report-puts-cops-outside-shooters-door-attack-started)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on Nov 06, 2017, 11:30:30 am
I posted this in 2010:

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http://info.publicintelligence.net/advisory2.pdf
http://publicintelligence.net/ufouo-international-terrorists-remain-focused-on-targeting-luxury-hotels/

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(U//FOUO) International Terrorists Remain Focused on Targeting Luxury Hotels

(U) Scope

(U//FOUO) The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis and the FBI are releasing this Joint Homeland Security Note to raise security awareness regarding terrorist interest in targeting luxury hotels. This product is intended to provide perspective and understanding of the nature and scope of terrorist commitment to attacking these targets and to assist federal, state, tribal, and local government agencies and authorities, the private sector, and other entities to develop priorities for protective and support measures relating to an existing or emerging threat to homeland security.

(U) Recent Attacks Overseas

(U//FOUO) Hotels are attractive targets for terrorists because of the substantial number of people present to include VIPs and tourists. Hotels generally lack the robust perimeter security necessary to prevent access by terrorists, and regular delivery of products and services offer venues or opportunities to penetrate protective measures. The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) and the FBI are not aware of any threat to luxury hotels in the United States, but analysis of historical reporting, previous attacks abroad, and thwarted plots provide some insight into the tactics used by terrorists against hotels.

— (U//FOUO) At least two suicide attackers posing as guests used improvised explosive devises (IEDs) to attack luxury hotels in Jakarta, Indonesia on 17 July 2009. They reportedly checked into a room two days before the attack and possibly received assistance from a hotel vendor.

— (U//FOUO) A small group of attackers used a combination of small arms and two vehicles, one packed with explosives, to attack a luxury hotel in Peshawar, Pakistan on 9 June 2009. The hotel’s security cameras show a sedan entering the hotel’s entry control point and guards opening the gate. Gunmen in the vehicle then fired at the guards, allowing both the sedan and a trailing vehicle loaded with
explosives to enter the compound, where the explosives were detonated.

— (U//FOUO) In November 2008, members of the terrorist group Lashkar-i-Tayyiba attacked several soft targets in Mumbai, India—including two luxury hotels—using small arms, grenades, and small IEDs.

— (U//FOUO) On 20 September 2008, a terrorist, unable to breach the security perimeter, detonated a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED) at the entry control point of a luxury hotel in Islamabad, Pakistan.

— (U//FOUO) Taliban militants, some disguised in police uniforms, attacked a hotel in Kabul, Afghanistan using small arms, grenades, IEDs and a VBIED on 14 January 2008. One of the terrorists detonated a suicide vest inside the hotel while others attacked guards outside the compound and detonated a VBIED outside the hotel. Three attackers gained entry to the hotel and used small arms and grenades against hotel guests and employees.

(U//FOUO) Tactics

(U//FOUO) These attacks illustrate a number of attack methods and capabilities. Hotel security officials should consider these tactics when developing protective measures and employee security training programs.

— (U//FOUO) Paramilitary and “Small Unit” Tactics: The group of 10 Mumbai attackers used small arms, such as assault rifles and pistols, to defeat perimeter security, defend themselves, maximize casualties, and prolong the siege.

— (U//FOUO) Explosives: The hotel attacks have included the use of explosives carried or placed by individuals or planted in vehicles. Explosives serve as a force multiplier for terrorists, affording greater damage to infrastructure and higher casualties and deaths—often timed to hit first responders on the scene.

– (U//FOUO) IEDs: The Jarkarta attackers used IEDs to specifically target a group of businessmen meeting in the hotel restaurant. In the Mumbai attacks, IEDs were used to prevent first responders from gaining access to the hotel.

– (U//FOUO) VBIEDs: In the 2008 Islamabad attack, a single VBIED with one driver was unable to breach the entry gate before the explosive detonated. Subsequent hotel attacks incorporated a second car or multiple attackers to help the VBIED penetrate security. For example, the 2009 Peshawar hotel attack employed a lead vehicle with attackers carrying small arms and a trailing VBIED.

(U//FOUO) Protective Measures

(U//FOUO) Owners of commercial facilities have the capability to protect against many of the prevailing threats. Some protective measures include:

— (U//FOUO) Reducing the attraction of a facility to terrorists through installing adequate perimeter fencing or walls and barriers expanding the zone around the buildings and populated areas, as well as deploying a highly visible security force working closely with law enforcement and other first responders to prepare for any emergencies.

— (U//FOUO) Making the facility more difficult to attack by implementing random screening of people and their possessions, physical inspection of vehicles, and coverage of grounds by closed-circuit surveillance with 24-7 monitoring.

(U//FOUO) Maintaining a high level of awareness and training of security staff to recognize surveillance and counter-surveillance techniques and to identify and report suspicious activities, providing regular security and threat awareness briefings to all personnel, conducting background checks on prospective employees, and using advanced security surveillance technologies.

(U) The DHS/Office of Bombing Prevention provides analysis of counter-IED requirements and capabilities, and promotes IED information sharing, awareness and vigilance. Additional information on
explosives can be found at the DHS TRIPwire website, located athttps://www.tripwire-dhs.net. For access, contact the Office for Bombing Prevention at 703-235-5723 or OBP@dhs.gov.

(U) For comments or questions related to the content or dissemination of this document, please contact the DHS/I&A Production Branch staff at IA.PM@hq.dhs.gov, IA.PM@dhs.sgov.gov, or IA.PM@dhs.ic.gov.




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Nov 07, 2017, 07:47:49 am

George Knapp interviews Sheriff Joe Lombardo













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - Newly released video
Post by: poseidonlost on Nov 10, 2017, 10:10:11 pm
Shows a helicopter was very close to the ground almost immediately after the gunfire supposedly began.













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: David Icke Bot on Nov 13, 2017, 05:37:13 am
UNRELIABLE SOURCE

NV Homeland Security Planned Mock Terror Drill Year Ahead of Mandalay Bay Massacre

https://www.infowars.com/nv-homeland-security-planned-mock-terror-drill-year-ahead-of-mandalay-bay-massacre/

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'LAS VEGAS (INTELLIHUB) — The Nevada Homeland Security Commission planned a mock terror drill over one year prior to the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival massacre after a 2016 “Channel 8 Eyewitness News” investigation uncovered flaws in the Las Vegas Valley emergency trauma system, reveals a Sept. 7 report.

According to the report, the “three-day test” took place at the Las Vegas Convention Center between the dates of Sept. 11-13 where participants mocked up an emergency triage area.The drill dovetails with an Oct. 3 Intellihub report titled Vegas union worker blows whistle on “mandatory active shooter training” which was due “Sept. 30” at “12 a.m.” which exposed that “active shooter training” was, in fact, being held privately by at least one casino prior to the massacre.'

Read More: NV Homeland Security Planned Mock Terror Drill Year Ahead of Mandalay Bay Massacre (https://www.infowars.com/nv-homeland-security-planned-mock-terror-drill-year-ahead-of-mandalay-bay-massacre/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 13, 2017, 08:49:09 pm
UNRELIABLE SOURCE

NV Homeland Security Planned Mock Terror Drill Year Ahead of Mandalay Bay Massacre

https://www.infowars.com/nv-homeland-security-planned-mock-terror-drill-year-ahead-of-mandalay-bay-massacre/

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'LAS VEGAS (INTELLIHUB) — The Nevada Homeland Security Commission planned a mock terror drill over one year prior to the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival massacre after a 2016 “Channel 8 Eyewitness News” investigation uncovered flaws in the Las Vegas Valley emergency trauma system, reveals a Sept. 7 report.

According to the report, the “three-day test” took place at the Las Vegas Convention Center between the dates of Sept. 11-13 where participants mocked up an emergency triage area.The drill dovetails with an Oct. 3 Intellihub report titled Vegas union worker blows whistle on “mandatory active shooter training” which was due “Sept. 30” at “12 a.m.” which exposed that “active shooter training” was, in fact, being held privately by at least one casino prior to the massacre.'

Read More: NV Homeland Security Planned Mock Terror Drill Year Ahead of Mandalay Bay Massacre (https://www.infowars.com/nv-homeland-security-planned-mock-terror-drill-year-ahead-of-mandalay-bay-massacre/)



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Professor Jim Fitter, who was viscously attacked before the dust even settled in Vegas for even suggesting the Vegas shooting was a staged event, actually called three of the nearest Vegas hospitals to the shooting shortly after the shooting had happened to ask them how many gun shot victims they were attending to.  Two of the hospital's staff told Fetzer... "You must be talking about the DRILL... we are NOT currently treating anyone for gun shot wounds"



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Nov 17, 2017, 12:18:58 pm
Professor Jim Fitter, who was viscously attacked before the dust even settled in Vegas for even suggesting the Vegas shooting was a staged event, actually called three of the nearest Vegas hospitals to the shooting shortly after the shooting had happened to ask them how many gun shot victims they were attending to.  Two of the hospital's staff told Fetzer... "You must be talking about the DRILL... we are NOT currently treating anyone for gun shot wounds"



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I posted it as it was of interest, but under the caveat that it is a known un-reliable source . . . . infowarts.con (http://cia.com), but that is sometimes equally useful.  :P



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 17, 2017, 08:43:38 pm
I posted it as it was of interest, but under the caveat that it is a known un-reliable source . . . . infowarts.con (http://cia.com), but that is sometimes equally useful.  :P



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I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater concerning Fetzer or that the Vegas shooting was a Soros flash mob fake all the way.

I understand the reasoning I'm going to give for crisis actors in (some) of these ops makes no sense to Brits, but the powers that be learned from the Columbine operation (which WAS very real), that they have to be able to limit and control any lawsuits that come from such operations.  Both Sandy Hook and Vegas stand out in this respect.  When Columbine went down 'real' and not controlled globalist lawsuits were flying in every direction.   Unlike some here would like you to believe, these lawsuits were filed rapidly before they even had the mess at the school cleaned up

Question to the Brits... Why were the Columbine shooting lawsuits (collectively) important for getting to the truth of what actually happened that day?  Answer: 'Discovery'
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Columbine2.htm

Who was sued and what was 'discovered' in litigation?

Importantly,  Jefferson county school district unlike Sandy Hook.  This lawsuit led to the release of those gosh darn video surveillance tapes which showed a full grown man with a military assault rifle in the cafeteria.  This, as it turned out, backed the 'official' police report that stated Harris and Klebold were NOT scene on video entering the cafeteria (the original police report).   How many people know this?

Other important lawsuits filed.
The Jefferson country sheriffs department was sued unlike both Sandy hook and Vegas.  What came out in discovery was indeed Columbine was a multi shooter operation and the eye witness accounts to multiple shooters collaborated with sheriff deputies who not only stated that there were multiple shooters in the Columbine op, but the sheriff deputies actually engaged with them including one on the roof.  How many people know that?  .

The bottomline is, that if one of their ops like Vegas, Sandy Hook actually go live, not even they can control the fallout from an avalanche of lawsuits from the public being filed every way to Sunday.

As far as Vegas goes, Fetzer isn't the only one pointing out the FAKE in the Vegas shooting as Paul Craig Roberts shared...

Military Surgeon Says Videos of Las Vegas Gunshot Victims Are Fake
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/09/military-surgeon-says-videos-las-vegas-gunshot-victims-fake/

Come on, people really can't be that stupid to think a perfectly healthy guy with a hole in his hat is actually a shot-to-the-head victim from a military high powered rifle? (posted by yours truly earlier)

Question:  If the Vegas shooting produced hundreds of alleged victims why would the globalists use obvious fakes to tell their story?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Nov 21, 2017, 02:17:13 am
Yo, Trouble maker, here's your lawsuits...

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The largest of the lawsuits was filed on behalf of 450 people who were either injured in or witnessed the shooting, while the other four were brought by families of people who were killed or severely injured.

All five cases were filed in Los Angeles Superior Court.

Muhammad Aziz, a Houston-based lawyer heading the lawsuits, said they were filed in California because nearly all the plaintiffs were from the state and had been treated there. He noted that Live Nation Entertainment Inc, the event organizer, was a California-based company.

https://reuters.com/article/us-lasvegas-shooting-lawsuit/hundreds-of-las-vegas-shooting-victims-file-lawsuits-in-california-court-idUSKBN1DK2OX



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 22, 2017, 02:00:46 pm
Yo, Trouble maker, here's your lawsuits...

https://reuters.com/article/us-lasvegas-shooting-lawsuit/hundreds-of-las-vegas-shooting-victims-file-lawsuits-in-california-court-idUSKBN1DK2OX



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This so-called lawsuit simply makes my point once again, as did the Brady class action lawsuit.    Live Nation Entertainment Inc is a total globalist run company and might as well be called 'BlackWater'.  Where Blackwater simply changed their name to avoid litigation.

Then you have this legal three ring circus being run out of gun control central California where many of the so-called victim obituaries had these victims dying on everyday EXCEPT the night of the concert, and most of them dying the day before.

The fact the city / police or the security company in charge NOT included in this suit should have been a major red flag to anyone in the truth movement on this operation.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Nov 22, 2017, 05:04:24 pm
Then you have this legal three ring circus being run out of gun control central California where many of the so-called victim obituaries had these victims dying on everyday EXCEPT the night of the concert, and most of them dying the day before.

The fact the city / police or the security company in charge NOT included in this suit should have been a major red flag to anyone in the truth movement on this operation.



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Ok, well do you mean there were dates of death September 30th? Because it happened around 10pm October 1st right? That would give two hours to be declared dead on October 1st and I doubt many if any were officially declared dead before midnight. Also people could've succumbed to wounds at a later date.

And maybe lawsuits against the city/police could still be on their way. Apparently people are having a hard time getting any information (surprise surprise)

Either way, referring to how you pointed out discovery in an earlier post, this is a step in the right direction. Although not the whole shebang.

I tried getting the raw information on the case from Los Angeles Superior Court, but I can't at the moment. Someone want to help us out?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Nov 22, 2017, 07:23:52 pm
This so-called lawsuit simply makes my point once again, as did the Brady class action lawsuit.    Live Nation Entertainment Inc is a total globalist run company and might as well be called 'BlackWater'.  Where Blackwater simply changed their name to avoid litigation.

Then you have this legal three ring circus being run out of gun control central California where many of the so-called victim obituaries had these victims dying on everyday EXCEPT the night of the concert, and most of them dying the day before.

The fact the city / police or the security company in charge NOT included in this suit should have been a major red flag to anyone in the truth movement on this operation.



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Lizzie is this joke?? OMFG is not joke. You scream "WHY ONLY ONE LAWSUIT AHHHHHHH". Now there dozens lawsuit including class action and hundreds defendants and close 500 plaintiff, but that makes your point again LOL.

So we need some answer from you:-

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This so-called lawsuit simply makes my point once again, as did the Brady class action lawsuit.

What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

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Live Nation Entertainment Inc is a total globalist run company and might as well be called 'BlackWater'.  Where Blackwater simply changed their name to avoid litigation.

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?

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victim obituaries had these victims dying on everyday EXCEPT the night of the concert, and most of them dying the day before.

What is your source and evidence for this?

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The fact the city / police or the security company in charge NOT included in this suit should have been a major red flag to anyone in the truth movement on this operation.

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police?

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 23, 2017, 07:33:37 am
Lizzie is this joke?? OMFG is not joke. You scream "WHY ONLY ONE LAWSUIT AHHHHHHH". Now there dozens lawsuit including class action and hundreds defendants and close 500 plaintiff, but that makes your point again LOL.

So we need some answer from you:-

What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?

What is your source and evidence for this?

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police?

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA



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Dick running his usual interference ops

Ok Dick, source the "dozens" of class action suits please.

Please source the suits against the police, the city of Las Vegas, the mystery security company herding people to the supposed kill zones.

I guess what you are trying to infer, is that there was NO security company in charge of security at the concert when tons of testimony had come out that every venue "MUST" a hire an 'authorized' security firm "running security".   Oh, and concert goer's testimony about "security" blocking exits and "herding people into open spaces and turning on the lights onto these spaces".

If you could source those lawsuits outside your paint stroke 'claims' I'll shut up about this.

BTW- Dick why don't you provide proof beyond a shadow of a doubt 1) Who Paddock really was to begin with.  Since there are at least three different versions (ALL SOURCED) at this thread.  Is there ANY proof you could provide that Paddock was NOT a CIA cutout?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Nov 23, 2017, 08:04:08 am
Dick running his usual interference ops

Ok Dick, source the "dozens" of class action suits please.

Please source the suits against the police, the city of Las Vegas, the mystery security company herding people to the supposed kill zones.

I guess what you are trying to infer, is that there was NO security company in charge of security at the concert when tons of testimony had come out that every venue "MUST" a hire an 'authorized' security firm "running security".   Oh, and concert goer's testimony about "security" blocking exits and "herding people into open spaces and turning on the lights onto these spaces".

If you could source those lawsuits outside your paint stroke 'claims' I'll shut up about this.

BTW- Dick why don't you provide proof beyond a shadow of a doubt 1) Who Paddock really was to begin with.  Since there are at least three different versions (ALL SOURCED) at this thread.  Is there ANY proof you could provide that Paddock was NOT a CIA cutout?



Last Edit by Palmerston

This is desperate from you now. You can't read or deliberately are lying about what I say to distort attention.

I say dozens of lawsuit including class action, not dozens of class action. This is clear to all so can't you read or are you deliberately lying?

I did not claim any suits against Police. You want suits against Police but I ask you, and now again, for your case against Police? This is clear so can't you read or are you deliberately lying?

I have made no claims only asked you to prove your claims, so as other propaganda you try to turn onto me with straw man. This is clear to all. So can't you read or are you deliberately lying?

So to repeat for you Lizzie. You have made numerous claims before now, and now a new one. You must provide your source and evidence for your claims. You cannot come and post complete crap and propaganda. Here are your claims that need source and evidence:


Quote
This so-called lawsuit simply makes my point once again, as did the Brady class action lawsuit.

What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

Quote
Live Nation Entertainment Inc is a total globalist run company and might as well be called 'BlackWater'.  Where Blackwater simply changed their name to avoid litigation.

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?

Quote
victim obituaries had these victims dying on everyday EXCEPT the night of the concert, and most of them dying the day before.

What is your source and evidence for this?

Quote
The fact the city / police or the security company in charge NOT included in this suit should have been a major red flag to anyone in the truth movement on this operation.

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police?

New Claim from Lizzie:

"security firm herding people into kill zone"


What is your source and evidence for this?

Oh and did shooting happen or are everyone actor? LOL It's hard to be current with what you pushing today

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA

But now you want me to prove he was NOT in CIA, so prove negative?? Hahaha omfg I am sorry for you now..



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Nov 23, 2017, 08:06:36 am
Paddock was an Oswald

Which does not reveal that much, apart from its a complete dead end . . .
Sure, it does means Paddock, like Oswald was 101% pure patsy . . .

But, no one is going to get the answers by googling, its a pro job just like Oswald.
For example, who was Oswald working for... and after all that time we don't really know - except via deduction.

There are limits, to research.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 23, 2017, 08:26:29 am
Paddock was an Oswald

Which does not reveal that much, apart from its a complete dead end . . .
Sure, it does means Paddock, like Oswald was 101% pure patsy . . .

But, no one is going to get the answers by googling, its a pro job just like Oswald.
For example, who was Oswald working for... and after all that time we don't really know - except via deduction.

There are limits, to research.



Last Edit by Palmerston

Yeah, and it came out years later that Oswald was in fact CIA.

What makes ONE of the Paddocks a plausible CIA cutout, is how fast his 'real'(?) identity was being 'thoroughly' erased, as Phoenix herself had sourced.  The average Joe could in no way do this, however a state sponsored intelligence agency could.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 23, 2017, 08:28:22 am
This is desperate from you now. You can't read or deliberately are lying about what I say to distort attention.

I say dozens of lawsuit including class action, not dozens of class action. This is clear to all so can't you read or are you deliberately lying?

I did not claim any suits against Police. You want suits against Police but I ask you, and now again, for your case against Police? This is clear so can't you read or are you deliberately lying?

I have made no claims only asked you to prove your claims, so as other propaganda you try to turn onto me with straw man. This is clear to all. So can't you read or are you deliberately lying?

So to repeat for you Lizzie. You have made numerous claims before now, and now a new one. You must provide your source and evidence for your claims. You cannot come and post complete crap and propaganda. Here are your claims that need source and evidence:


What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?

What is your source and evidence for this?

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police?

New Claim from Lizzie:

"security firm herding people into kill zone"


What is your source and evidence for this?

Oh and did shooting happen or are everyone actor? LOL It's hard to be current with what you pushing today

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA

But now you want me to prove he was NOT in CIA, so prove negative?? Hahaha omfg I am sorry for you now..



Last Edit by Palmerston

Desperate?  Just provide the sources of all these lawsuits you insist exist.  That's all.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Nov 23, 2017, 08:38:32 am
Yeah, and it came out years later that Oswald was in fact CIA.

What makes ONE of the Paddocks a plausible CIA cutout, is how fast his 'real'(?) identity was being 'thoroughly' erased, as Phoenix herself had sourced.  The average Joe could in no way do this, however a state sponsored intelligence agency could.



Last Edit by Palmerston

It also came back he was FBI working against the CIA...
Hence the perfect solution for the rogue CIA was to fit him up as a patsy.

Life can get complicated.  ???



Last Edit by Palmerston

EDIT : You did see this "EXCLUSIVE: Video of Rep Joe Barton Masturbating" by Infowars headline ?



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Nov 23, 2017, 08:41:53 am
Desperate?  Just provide the sources of all these lawsuits you insist exist.  That's all.



Last Edit by Palmerston

Time to put up or shut up Lizzie. You have made several claims that you refuse to provided evidence. Without the evidence the claims are just garbage propaganda that your made up in your head. This is for serious information not your made up crap.

The lawsuits are easy - anyone can see where they are:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/las-vegas-shooting-lawsuits-stack-14-filed-51181215

https://reuters.com/article/us-lasvegas-shooting-lawsuit/hundreds-of-las-vegas-shooting-victims-file-lawsuits-in-california-court-idUSKBN1DK2OX

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/brady-campaign-las-vegas-law-firm-files-class-action-suit-against-bump-fire-stock-makers-after-devices-used-in-strip-shooting



So to repeat for you Lizzie. You have made numerous claims before now, and now a new one. You must provide your source and evidence for your claims. You cannot come and post complete crap and propaganda. Here are your claims that need source and evidence:


Quote
This so-called lawsuit simply makes my point once again, as did the Brady class action lawsuit.

What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

Quote
Live Nation Entertainment Inc is a total globalist run company and might as well be called 'BlackWater'.  Where Blackwater simply changed their name to avoid litigation.

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?

Quote
victim obituaries had these victims dying on everyday EXCEPT the night of the concert, and most of them dying the day before.

What is your source and evidence for this?

Quote
The fact the city / police or the security company in charge NOT included in this suit should have been a major red flag to anyone in the truth movement on this operation.

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police?

New Claim from Lizzie:

"security firm herding people into kill zone"


What is your source and evidence for this?

Oh and did shooting happen or are everyone actor? LOL It's hard to be current with what you pushing today

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA, BUT if you now want to now say it cannot be proved either way, I will accept this to help you  ;D.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 23, 2017, 09:34:42 am
Time to put up or shut up Lizzie. You have made several claims that you refuse to provided evidence. Without the evidence the claims are just garbage propaganda that your made up in your head. This is for serious information not your made up crap.

The lawsuits are easy - anyone can see where they are:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/las-vegas-shooting-lawsuits-stack-14-filed-51181215

https://reuters.com/article/us-lasvegas-shooting-lawsuit/hundreds-of-las-vegas-shooting-victims-file-lawsuits-in-california-court-idUSKBN1DK2OX

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/brady-campaign-las-vegas-law-firm-files-class-action-suit-against-bump-fire-stock-makers-after-devices-used-in-strip-shooting



So to repeat for you Lizzie. You have made numerous claims before now, and now a new one. You must provide your source and evidence for your claims. You cannot come and post complete crap and propaganda. Here are your claims that need source and evidence:


What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?

What is your source and evidence for this?

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police?

New Claim from Lizzie:

"security firm herding people into kill zone"


What is your source and evidence for this?

Oh and did shooting happen or are everyone actor? LOL It's hard to be current with what you pushing today

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA, BUT if you now want to now say it cannot be proved either way, I will accept this to help you  ;D.



Last Edit by Palmerston

I'm sorry to once again inform you, that these lawsuit sources provided by the 'corporate media' do NOT make but diminish your point.  1.) A class acton against the bumpstock by a pro agenda 2030 globalist backed Brady law firm doesn't answer the question WHY not the city of Vegas?  The police?  The security company YOU want all of us not to ask about like we saw with the Columbine shooting.

2.) A lawsuit in gun control central California of all places, and NOT in the ACTUAL state the crime occurred which goes against all lawsuits ever filed?  Of course the corporate media gave us their half baked excuse for this oddity claiming that the majority of the so called deceased reside in California.  These absurd California lawsuits of course, insures that the city of Vegas or the Police are left out of this shooting lawsuit equation completely.

3.) These suits filed against MGM and the entertainment company is no big deal because we've all seen the 'lawsuit name change act before (http://www.ibtimes.com/blackwater-changes-name-twice-cant-escape-reputation-721658).  Other than the fact that the CEO of MGM sold a huge chunk of stock just before the operation went down. However, none of that is even remotely mentioned in any of the mainstream articles you provided.  A lawsuit against MGM is NOT a civil lawsuit against the CEO himself no matter how many ways to Sunday you want to spin this.

All you have provided are controlled and funneled lawsuits all run from a completely different geographical location then where the crime actually occurred, and you of course, do NOT want anyone (from the States especially) to call out these suits as being bogus, and that there is NO proof what-so-ever of other 'important' lawsuits including the police, the city,  security from any of these so-called sources (mainstream) you provided.

To any real 'truth researcher', these suits you wave around Dick, should raise more questions than squash those very important questions regarding this entire operation.  I also know one thing for sure.  If you crawl out of the woodwork to run interference by giving me flack I know I am directly over the target.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Nov 23, 2017, 09:50:57 am
I'm sorry to once again inform you, that these lawsuit sources provided by the 'corporate media' do NOT make but diminish your point.  1.) A class acton against the bumpstock by a pro agenda 2030 globalist backed Brady law firm doesn't answer the question WHY not the city of Vegas?  The police?  The security company YOU want all of us not to ask about like we saw with the Columbine shooting.

2.) A lawsuit in gun control central California of all places, and NOT in the ACTUAL state the crime occurred which goes against all lawsuits ever filed?  Of course the corporate media gave us their half baked excuse for this oddity claiming that the majority of the so called deceased reside in California.  These absurd California lawsuits of course, insures that the city of Vegas or the Police are left out of this shooting lawsuit equation completely.

3.) These suits filed against MGM and the entertainment company is no big deal, other than the fact that the CEO of MGM sold a huge chunk of stock just before the operation went down. However, none of that is even remotely mentioned in any of the mainstream articles you provided.  A lawsuit against MGM is NOT a civil lawsuit against the CEO himself no matter how many ways to Sunday you want to spin this.

All you have provided are controlled and funneled lawsuits all run from a completely different geographical location then where the crime actually occurred, and you of course, do NOT want anyone (from the States especially) to call out these suits as being bogus, and that there is NO proof what-so-ever of other 'important' lawsuits including the police, the city,  security from any of these so-called sources (mainstream) you provided.

To any real 'truth researcher', these suits you wave around Dick, should raise more questions than squash those very important questions regarding this entire operation.  I also know one thing for sure.  If you crawl out of the woodwork to run interference by giving me flack I know I am directly over the target.



Last Edit by Palmerston

You use your naive opinion about lawsuit as distraction so to not support your false claims that you probably make up.

Time to put up or shut up Lizzie. You have made several claims that you refuse to provided evidence. Without the evidence the claims are just garbage propaganda that your made up in your head. This is for serious information not your made up crap.

So to repeat for you Lizzie. You have made numerous claims before now, and now a new one. You must provide your source and evidence for your claims. You cannot come and post complete crap and propaganda. Here are your claims that need source and evidence:

Quote
This so-called lawsuit simply makes my point once again, as did the Brady class action lawsuit.

What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

Quote
Live Nation Entertainment Inc is a total globalist run company and might as well be called 'BlackWater'.  Where Blackwater simply changed their name to avoid litigation.

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?


Quote
victim obituaries had these victims dying on everyday EXCEPT the night of the concert, and most of them dying the day before.

What is your source and evidence for this?

Quote
The fact the city / police or the security company in charge NOT included in this suit should have been a major red flag to anyone in the truth movement on this operation.

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police? AND what is your case against city?

New Claim from Lizzie:

"security firm herding people into kill zone"


What is your source and evidence for this?

Oh and did shooting happen or are everyone actor? LOL It's hard to be current with what you pushing today

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA, BUT if you now want to now say it cannot be proved either way, I will accept this to help you  ;D.




Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Nov 23, 2017, 10:12:06 am
The Big Lebowski













Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 23, 2017, 10:37:18 am
You use your naive opinion about lawsuit as distraction so to not support your false claims that you probably make up.

Time to put up or shut up Lizzie. You have made several claims that you refuse to provided evidence. Without the evidence the claims are just garbage propaganda that your made up in your head. This is for serious information not your made up crap.

So to repeat for you Lizzie. You have made numerous claims before now, and now a new one. You must provide your source and evidence for your claims. You cannot come and post complete crap and propaganda. Here are your claims that need source and evidence:

What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?


What is your source and evidence for this?

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police? AND what is your case against city?

New Claim from Lizzie:

"security firm herding people into kill zone"


What is your source and evidence for this?

Oh and did shooting happen or are everyone actor? LOL It's hard to be current with what you pushing today

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA, BUT if you now want to now say it cannot be proved either way, I will accept this to help you  ;D.




Last Edit by Palmerston

I see that you are up to your usual tricks of mudding the water.  Concert goes reported being herded to these open areas THEY referred to as "kill Zones"  this is all over youtube and has been posted at this forum but you know that of course.

Also, let's make a note to everyone that you are quoted at this forum as believing the 'official narrative; that Paddock was just a deranged nut with a gun.   Yet, you yourself, have not proved who the 'real Paddock' even is.  Yet, you want us to believe Paddock's just "a nut with a gun".

Also, you have NOT provided one lawsuit filed against the police.  This should be the strangest lack of a lawsuit to anyone with half a brain considering that this same police can't even get the timeline right.

... and for the other operative on this forum... the PROOF that the police were NOT at the concert when the shooting began is directly in the 911 audio tapes where the police had NOT even arrived to concert until several minutes AFTER the shooting started.  Had they even been at the concert they would have been the very first to report the shots.

All I ask is that 'Mr Official story' here provide one lawsuit against the police in this Vegas shooting @ minimum.  Doing so would prove that all these lawsuits are in fact genuine 'victim' driven lawsuits and not establishment controlled FAKE suits that he and some others are waving around.

Of course he can't do that because for some strange reason the Vegas police really did NOT get sued as what would have happened if this operation was real (Like Columbine.) and not some drill.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Nov 23, 2017, 11:27:18 am
What I find interesting is how Mr 'Official Story' is desperately trying to poo poo the witness narratives (as other mainstream disinfo bots have been trying) to do who said "no emergency exits / blocked exits.

What's amusing, is that the 'blocked exits' is in the very testimony in these lawsuits as explained @ around :30











I guess Dick thinks most people at this forum who ask questions / want answers far beyond the 'official narrative' are too stupid to know why money hungry law firms would go after a 'city'.  Law firms in the US go after as many deep pockets as they can, it's what they do, and governments local, state, federal all have some of the deepest pockets.

If for starters, the concert venue was in violation of safety laws and the city sanctions the concert to go on anyway well can you put two and two together.  Then there is the issues concerning the police.  Which would normally get the county tied up in a lawsuit as well.

Why did Budweiser have to pay out for a venue that was negligent for fire code violations?  (As I sourced on this thread)  Right wrong or indifferent it's the way things go down in USA those with the deepest pockets get sued.

Of course Dick Official Story still has not given one shred of proof of other lawsuits involving local law enforcement... the local governments connected to the police and fire



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Nov 23, 2017, 11:33:12 am
I see that you are up to your usual tricks of mudding the water.  Concert goes reported being herded to these open areas THEY referred to as "kill Zones"  this is all over youtube and has been posted at this forum but you know that of course.

You like to attack other forum member, this is just weakness. There is no reference to "herded into kill zones by security firm" on this thread which is your claim. It is not "all over youtube". What is your source for this claim? It is a simple requirement.

Quote
Also, let's make a note to everyone that you are quoted at this forum as believing the 'official narrative; that Paddock was just a deranged nut with a gun.   Yet, you yourself, have not proved who the 'real Paddock' even is.  Yet, you want us to believe Paddock's just "a nut with a gun".

I did not say I believed this, but I said I was considering as possibility, and I do considering it still. Can't you read or are you deliberately lying?

Quote
Also, you have NOT provided one lawsuit filed against the police.  This should be the strangest lack of a lawsuit to anyone with half a brain considering that this same police can't even get the timeline right.

I have asked you many times now, what is your case for lawsuit against Police??

Quote
... and for the other operative on this forum... the PROOF that the police were NOT at the concert when the shooting began is directly in the 911 audio tapes where the police had NOT even arrived to concert until several minutes AFTER the shooting started.  Had they even been at the concert they would have been the very first to report the shots.

The "other operative" you say is "poseidonlost" from this post:  http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2297.msg13628#msg13628 (which you fail to reply). You really like to attack other forum members with weak ad hominem when they call you out. I don't know why this forum accept this from you.

Quote
All I ask is that 'Mr Official story' here provide one lawsuit against the police in this Vegas shooting @ minimum.  Doing so would prove that all these lawsuits are in fact genuine 'victim' driven lawsuits and not establishment controlled FAKE suits that he and some others are waving around.

Of course he can't do that because for some strange reason the Vegas police really did NOT get sued as what would have happened if this operation was real (Like Columbine.) and not some drill.

Again I ask you, from the information available to victims, what is the case against Police? Not your theory but something they can to take in court.


So just more distract from You have not supported your claims. Here for you again Lizzie:

Time to put up or shut up Lizzie. You have made several claims that you refuse to provided evidence. Without the evidence the claims are just garbage propaganda that your made up in your head. This is for serious information not your made up crap.

So to repeat for you Lizzie. You have made numerous claims before now, and now a new one. You must provide your source and evidence for your claims. You cannot come and post complete crap and propaganda. Here are your claims that need source and evidence:

Quote
This so-called lawsuit simply makes my point once again, as did the Brady class action lawsuit.

What point?? and how does lawsuit "make point again"?

Quote
Live Nation Entertainment Inc is a total globalist run company and might as well be called 'BlackWater'.  Where Blackwater simply changed their name to avoid litigation.

What is your source and evidence for this? And How is important when or If suit defendant is globalist?


Quote
victim obituaries had these victims dying on everyday EXCEPT the night of the concert, and most of them dying the day before.

What is your source and evidence for this?

Quote
The fact the city / police or the security company in charge NOT included in this suit should have been a major red flag to anyone in the truth movement on this operation.

What is your source and evidence for security firm not named in the suit AND what is the case to file suit against Police? AND what is your case against city?

New Claim from Lizzie:

"security firm herding people into kill zone"


What is your source and evidence for this?

Oh and did shooting happen or are everyone actor? LOL It's hard to be current with what you pushing today

I am again since weeks waiting for your evidence for Paddock being in CIA, BUT if you now want to now say it cannot be proved either way, I will accept this to help you  ;D.




Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Nov 23, 2017, 11:41:21 am
What I find interesting is how Mr 'Official Story' is desperately trying to poo poo the witness narratives (as other mainstream disinfo bots have been trying) to do who said "no emergency exits / blocked exits.

What's amusing, is that the 'blocked exits' is in the very testimony in these lawsuits as explained @ around :30











I guess Dick thinks most people at this forum who ask questions / want answers far beyond the 'official narrative' are too stupid to know why money hungry law firms would go after a 'city'.  Law firms in the US go after as many deep pockets as they can, it's what they do, and governments local, state, federal all have some of the deepest pockets.

If for starters, the concert venue was in violation of safety laws and the city sanctions the concert to go on anyway well can you put two and two together.  Then there is the issues concerning the police.  Which would normally get the county tied up in a lawsuit as well.

Why did Budweiser have to pay out for a venue that was negligent for fire code violations?  (As I sourced on this thread)  Right wrong or indifferent it's the way things go down in USA those with the deepest pockets get sued.

Of course Dick Official Story still has not given one shred of proof of other lawsuits involving local law enforcement... the local governments connected to the police and fire



Last Edit by Palmerston

Another reply when you lie about what you said and try to weasel around. You claim victims "Herded to kill zones by security firm". This is not what the youtube clip is says. Keep searching youtube LOL. Keep trying to distract from your false claims. Keep making weak ad hominem attack.

You cannot support ANY of your claim. You should have just admit this Lizzie.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Nov 26, 2017, 01:13:09 am
So.

...

Any source documents?



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Nov 26, 2017, 05:24:11 pm
Man who survived Las Vegas shooting killed in hit-and-run, wife says

https://cnn.com/2017/11/26/us/las-vegas-shooting-survivor-killed/index.html



Last Edit by Gladstone
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dude447 on Nov 26, 2017, 05:29:43 pm
People just die or disappear



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dude447 on Nov 26, 2017, 05:37:33 pm
The local sheriff guy he was right on the case got his ass shut down by the cia  goon telling the news story



Last Edit by Palmerston
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Nov 28, 2017, 01:31:02 pm
So.

...

Any source documents?



Last Edit by Palmerston

Is Pope a muslim?

Anyway only "operative" like you ask for source and evidence, remember? LOL




Last Edit by Palmerston
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Nov 28, 2017, 01:48:09 pm
Is Pope a muslim?

Anyway only "operative" like you ask for source and evidence, remember? LOL




Last Edit by Palmerston

I mean, it's a matter of digital numbers --> "money." Which I don't have at the moment. Look up the Los Angeles Superior Court. Everyone's bickering here and there is information to obtain. I know someone here can blow $3 digital numbers or w/e it is and we all win with an original source.



Last Edit by Palmerston
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Dick Stallion on Nov 28, 2017, 02:19:25 pm
I mean, it's a matter of digital numbers --> "money." Which I don't have at the moment. Look up the Los Angeles Superior Court. Everyone's bickering here and there is information to obtain. I know someone here can blow $3 digital numbers or w/e it is and we all win with an original source.



Last Edit by Palmerston

I don't know what of information required we can find in the filing document. but if you can post the exact page where to pay the USD3 for this then I will go crazy and pay this.  ;D



Last Edit by Palmerston
Title: Re: Las Vegas : shooting survivor killed by hit-and-run driver ( The CleanUp )
Post by: David Icke Bot on Nov 30, 2017, 05:58:40 am
Las Vegas shooting survivor killed by hit-and-run driver

https://nypost.com/2017/11/27/las-vegas-shooting-survivor-killed-by-hit-and-run-driver/


(https://admin62b4b.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/171127-vegas-shooting-survivor-dead-feature.jpg)


'A Las Vegas man who survived the country music festival attack that left 58 people dead was killed earlier this month by a hit-and-run driver, leaving his widow reeling “in another dimension.”

Roy McClellan, 52, was killed Nov. 17 while hitchhiking on a highway west of Las Vegas in Pahrump after leaving the home of a friend he was helping with a house project. His wife, Denise McClellan, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal she had a horrible feeling in her gut that something was wrong after filing a missing persons report and seeing news coverage about the death of an unidentified man the following day.

“I read the words ’52-year-old man’ and ‘Pahrump,’” she told the newspaper. “And I just knew.”

Denise McClellan said she now feels like she’s in “another dimension” after her husband survived the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history only to be killed weeks later.

“My husband battled on a daily basis with depression, but that’s only one side of him,” she told the newspaper. “He was also someone who would give up his last dollar or give someone the shirt off his own back. That’s who he really was.”'


Read more: Las Vegas shooting survivor killed by hit-and-run driver (https://nypost.com/2017/11/27/las-vegas-shooting-survivor-killed-by-hit-and-run-driver/)



Last Edit by Gladstone
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Nov 30, 2017, 07:10:56 pm
Sheriff says more than 1,100 rounds fired in Las Vegas shooting

http://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/sheriff-says-more-than-1100-rounds-fired-in-las-vegas-shooting/



Gunman Stephen Paddock fired more than 1,100 rounds the night of the Las Vegas shooting, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Wednesday.

The new total includes about 200 rounds fired from Paddock’s Mandalay Bay corner suite and into the hallway of the 32nd floor late Oct. 1, injuring hotel security guard Jesus Campos.

Lombardo was aware of the previously unreported total because the Metropolitan Police Department’s forensics lab is working in conjunction with the FBI to process all ballistics evidence from the mass shooting, which left 58 concertgoers dead and more than 500 injured.

Investigators have not determined why Paddock stopped shooting. Lombardo said they found about 4,000 more rounds of unused ammunition in the gunman’s suite.

The sheriff also mentioned that “multiple weapons” had jammed, as the Review-Journal has previously reported, but Lombardo again did not provide a specific number. He also did not provide a detailed list of the weapons Paddock had available to him.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Dec 06, 2017, 10:00:38 am
What is all this crap about "Kill Zones" ?




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Dec 06, 2017, 06:09:21 pm
Las Vegas SWAT Team no show night of massacre, delayed entry into gunman’s room

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-swat-team-no-show-night-massacre-delayed-entry-gunmans-room/2017/11/11


LAS VEGAS: As police responded to the stairwell outside of Stephen Paddocks room, one officer would say over the radio, “Hold the stairwell and we’ll wait for the Zebra Team for the plan.”

But where was the Zebra Team?

It appears that the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department’s elite 40-member Special Weapons and Tactics team known as the Zebra Team were pretty much a no show inside the Mandalay Bay the night of the worst mass shooting in US history which occurred in Las Vegas, Nevada on October 1.

Fifty-eight people were killed and over 500 others were injured during the attack.

Stephen Paddock opened fire at 10:05 p.m. and continued firing for ten minutes from his 32nd floor suite at the Mandalay Bay Hotel raining down a hail of bullets into a crowd of 22,000 concert goers at the Route 91 Music Festival, police said.

The LVMPD came under scrutiny after the Oct. 1 massacre when questions were raised as to why it took police one hour and five minutes after Paddock had ceased firing to enter the suite.

The Baltimore Post-Examiner has learned that LVMPD SWAT Officer, Levi Hancock, was concerned because other members of his SWAT Team were not available to enter the suite with him.

Sergeant Joshua Bitsko and Officer Dave Newton of the K-9 Unit, Detectives Casey Clarkson and Matthew Donaldson, essentially became Hancock’s ad-hoc SWAT Team. All four of those officers appeared on the CBS news program, 60 Minutes, the Sunday following the attack. Hancock did not appear on the show, but they did show a photograph of him.

Although Clark County Sheriff, Joe Lombardo and Undersheriff, Kevin McMahill, the two top cops leading the LVMPD led the public to believe that the SWAT Team had entered Paddock’s room, the truth was that only one member of the Team would enter the suite, Levi Hancock.

At 11:20 p.m. Hancock is heard on the police radio, “We need to pop this and see if we can get any type of response from this guy, to see if he’s in here or he’s actually moved somewhere else.”

Hancock was armed with explosive charges to blow through the front door of Paddock’s suite.

The dispatcher would broadcast, “All units on the 32nd floor, SWAT has explosive breach, all units move back.”

Then Hancock says, “Breach, breach, breach,” and the sound of an explosion is heard over the radio.

Read more at the link --- >  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-swat-team-no-show-night-massacre-delayed-entry-gunmans-room/2017/11/11 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-swat-team-no-show-night-massacre-delayed-entry-gunmans-room/2017/11/11)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Dec 13, 2017, 07:16:05 pm
Media outlets sue for access to Las Vegas shooting search warrants

http://nbc4i.com/2017/12/13/media-organizations-sue-for-access-to-las-vegas-shooting-search-warrants/

Nevada judge has set a hearing date on a bid by media organizations to unseal search warrant records in the investigation of the Oct. 1 shooting that killed 58 people and injured hundreds on the Las Vegas Strip.

A court spokeswoman said Tuesday that Clark County District Court Judge Elissa Cadish allowed two more media organizations to join the seven already involved in the case, including The Associated Press.

The judge set a Jan. 16 hearing for arguments about whether court records should remain sealed since police and the FBI say the lone shooter killed himself.



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Las Vegas police will fight for 1 October search warrants to remain sealed

http://fox5vegas.com/story/37053940/las-vegas-police-will-fight-for-1-october-search-warrants-to-remain-sealed

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department wants search warrants from the 1 October shooting to stay sealed from the public.

Nine media organizations are asking a judge to unseal 14 warrants connected to the deadly shooting at Mandalay Bay, killing 58 people at the Route 91 Harvest Festival. Journalists believe the documents should be public, as there is no ongoing criminal investigation into any living defendants.

Judge Elissa Cadish on Tuesday said she will allow Metro to be a part of hearings moving forward, based on the department's "interest in the outcome" and the lack of objections from attorneys representing news entities involved in the case.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Dec 21, 2017, 05:54:49 pm
FBI Agent In Charge: Report On Las Vegas Shooting Should Be Done By Anniversary

http://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/fbi-chief-says-report-on-las-vegas-shooting-expected-by-anniversary/

The chief of the FBI’s Las Vegas office said he expects the agency to release a report on the Oct. 1 massacre before the tragedy’s first anniversary.

“Now that’s a long time for some people, but speaking for the FBI, that’s light speed, all right?” Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse said.

Rouse spoke with the Las Vegas Review-Journal during an extensive interview Wednesday at the FBI’s Las Vegas office.

He said reports from other agencies that responded to the mass shooting are being released at different times.

The question of motive has gone unanswered since the shooting nearly three months ago, which left 58 concertgoers dead and more than 500 injured. Just 10 days after the massacre, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo was largely unpromising about whether a motive would ever be determined.

“We may never know,” he told the Review-Journal.

On Wednesday, Rouse said the FBI has interviewed upward of 400 people worldwide, each of whom had some sort of connection — big or small — to gunman Stephen Paddock.



So the FBI report will be ready just in time of Anti-2nd amendment groups to use the evil act to push for more gun control methods.  They still have not told the public what weapons were used in the attack.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 02, 2018, 07:20:23 am
Unparalleled upheaval: The LVMPD’s Sheriff Joe Lombardo

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/unparalleled-upheaval-lvmpds-sheriff-joe-lombardo/2018/01/02

January 1, 2018 besides being the start of a new year, marks three months since the worst mass shooting in American history.

Fifty-eight people were murdered and over 500 others were wounded when a lone gunman — we are told — Stephen Paddock, opened fire from his 32nd floor suite of the Mandalay Bay Hotel on October 1, 2017.

Paddock fired over 1,100 rounds down onto an unsuspecting crowd at the Route 91 Music Festival, police said. Just to note, the collected evidence from Paddock’s suite should include all 1,100 plus expended cartridges. Firing pin indentations on the cartridge cases should match the weapons in the room that allegedly were used.

The Clark County, Nevada Coroner ruled Paddock’s death as a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. The coroner refuses to release any autopsy records even though a Clark County District Court judge ruled on Sept. 28 that autopsy records are public records under Nevada law. The coroner didn’t agree with that decision, so with the Clark County Board of Supervisors approval, they are now using taxpayer dollars to appeal that decision.

To date, the police have told us that Paddock acted alone, that there was no other person in his suite with him and he was not connected to any group, either domestic or foreign.

That very well could be true or not.

At this point I would not believe one word that comes from the LVMPD, the FBI or MGM Resorts International, the owners of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. Until all evidence is released and examined by experts in their respective fields, hired by the civil attorneys for the victims, nothing is proven as far as I’m concerned.

What the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department (LVMPD) hasn’t done is release one shred of evidence to date, to back up their claims. Even worse, they hired a law firm to fight in court to keep all the records and evidence out of the public view.


Read more at the link -->  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/unparalleled-upheaval-lvmpds-sheriff-joe-lombardo/2018/01/02 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/unparalleled-upheaval-lvmpds-sheriff-joe-lombardo/2018/01/02)




Long Article that summarizes a lot of the inconsistencies of the case.   The author believes that massacre was due to incompetence of LVPD.  I do not agree but he has been great at covering the Las Vegas Massacre.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jan 08, 2018, 05:58:22 am
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Mandalay Bay Admits Staff Visited Paddock’s Room 10 TIMES Before Shooting—Noticed Nothing

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'Three months after the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, yet another crucial change in the narrative has occurred as MGM Resorts International is now claiming that the hotel staff at Mandalay Bay had at least 10 interactions with suspect Stephen Paddock in the days before the shooting.

At least two of those interactions occurred on Oct. 1, the day that Paddock is alleged to have killed 58 people and injured more than 500 by launching a shooting spree out of his hotel room window on the 32nd floor. A spokesperson for MGM told The Las Vegas Review-Journal that the interactions on that fatal day consisted of a room service delivery and a visit from housekeeping:

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Mandalay Bay staff, room service and housekeeping had contact with Paddock or entered his suite more than 10 times over the course of his stay, including the three days leading up to October 1. There were numerous interactions with Stephen Paddock every day at the resort, including a room service delivery and a call with housekeeping on October 1, all of which were normal in nature.

Following the shooting, reports claimed that Paddock’s arsenal consisted of 47 guns—23 of which were found in his hotel room—along with more than 50 pounds of exploding targets and 1,600 rounds of ammunition.

While the hotel’s surveillance footage from the days leading up to the shooting has yet to be released, one of the most pressing questions surrounding the massacre is how Paddock was able to transport all of the weapons and supplies to his hotel room without raising any red flags.'



Read more : Mandalay Bay Admits Staff Visited Paddock’s Room 10 TIMES Before Shooting—Noticed Nothing (https://www.activistpost.com/2018/01/mandalay-bay-admits-staff-visited-paddocks-room-10-times-shooting-noticed-nothing.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 12, 2018, 08:14:58 pm
The Latest: Vegas gunman had emailed about bump stocks

http://foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/latest-vegas-gunman-had-emailed-about-bump-stocks.amp.html

LAS VEGAS –  The Latest on a documents related to the Las Vegas shooting (all times local):

5:30 p.m.

The Las Vegas gunman exchanged emails about buying rifles and bump stocks months before he carried out the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history using guns equipped with the device that allows semi-automatic weapons to fire nearly as fast as automatic ones.

Stephen Paddock's emails were disclosed in affidavits unsealed Friday after several media organizations, including The Associated Press, fought for their release.

The documents said Paddock had received an email from a Gmail account in July encouraging him to try an AR-style rifle before buying one. It said, "we have huge selection" in the Las Vegas area.

Paddock wrote back that he wanted to try several scopes and different types of ammunition. An email in response suggested trying a bump stock on the rifle with a 100-round magazine.

Paddock's email address and the Gmail address had similar names. Investigators say they suspect he may have been emailing himself, but couldn't figure out why.

More at link --->  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/latest-vegas-gunman-had-emailed-about-bump-stocks.amp.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/latest-vegas-gunman-had-emailed-about-bump-stocks.amp.html)

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::)  Of course this gets released around the same time as the Sandy Hook Report.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 12, 2018, 08:20:05 pm
Judge unseals search warrants in mass shooting in Las Vegas

http://latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-warrants-20180112-story,amp.html

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A federal judge Friday unsealed more than 300 pages of search warrants related to the mass shooting in Las Vegas that killed 58 people and wounded hundreds, but the documents do little to reveal what prompted the attack. Instead, they demonstrate how authorities continue to seek answers to many questions surrounding the actions and motive of gunman Stephen Paddock.

The search warrants covered electronic accounts of Paddock and his girlfriend, Marilou Danley. They had been sealed for months, but lawyers for several media companies, including the Los Angeles Times, argued for the release of the information.

One warrant for Paddock’s hotel room resulted in the recovery of three cellphones. Two were unlocked, but “neither contained significant information that allowed investigators to determine the full scope of Stephen Paddock’s planning and preparation for the attack.”

The third phone, however, was unable to be unlocked.

Paddock unleashed a rain of bullets into a crowd at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival on Oct. 1 from his room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino. He ultimately shot himself in the head while in the room.

Warrants also showed that investigators found an email identified by investigators as Paddock’s where he received a message from an account identified as CentralPark4804@gmail.com that read, “for a thrill try out bumpfire ar’s with 100 round magazine.”

“Investigators believe these communications may have been related to the eventual attack that occurred at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas,” the court document read.

U.S. District Judge Jennifer Dorsey said she saw no reason to keep the warrants unsealed — especially since lawyers with the federal government did not oppose the unsealing, with some minor redactions.

However, 10 pages were kept under seal pending a hearing in state court Tuesday morning.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 12, 2018, 08:24:51 pm
Las Vegas shooting: MGM statement slammed as 'hard to believe' by victims' lawyer

http://foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/las-vegas-shooting-mgm-statement-slammed-as-hard-to-believe-by-victims-lawyer.amp.html

A lawyer representing victims of the Las Vegas shooting slammed a "hard to believe" statement put out by MGM Resorts that noted numerous interactions between hotel staff and the gunman -- all while police doubled down on the decision to withhold details from the public nearly four months after the grisly massacre.

Hotel staff at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino “had contact with [Stephen] Paddock or entered his suite more than 10 times over the course of his stay, including the three days leading up to October 1” MGM Resorts, the hotel owner, admitted last week in a statement obtained by Fox News, adding all the interactions with Paddock “were normal in nature.”

“Their little paragraph of ‘we have normal interaction’ leaves a lot out,” Michelle Simpson Tuegel, an attorney representing several victims of the massacre, told Fox News. “I would like to know what they were classifying or defining as ‘normal behavior.’"

Tuegel said her clients, such as 21-year-old college student Paige Gasper, who was left with shattered ribs and a lacerated liver, are healing and feel “better,” but there is still a “long, rough road ahead.”

As for MGM’s statement, though, Tuegel said she's looking to find out “what else these employees have to say about what they saw and heard in the days leading up to the shooting, and what they may have failed to see,” whether possibly due to negligence or a lack of proper training from hotel management.

More at link -->  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/las-vegas-shooting-mgm-statement-slammed-as-hard-to-believe-by-victims-lawyer.amp.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/las-vegas-shooting-mgm-statement-slammed-as-hard-to-believe-by-victims-lawyer.amp.html)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 12, 2018, 08:43:21 pm
Unsealed Warrant  (24 pages)

http://documentcloud.org/documents/4349486-Warrants-1.html




Things that stand out to me.

1.  FBI searched two residences that belong to Steven Paddock in Las Vegas

2. Supposedly Steven Paddock actually shot and hit the large fuel tanks at airports

3. Casino player's card in the name of Marilou Danley was found in the room

4.  email sent to centralpark4804@gmail.com  "Try an ar before u buy.  We have huge selection.  located in the las vegas read" -  They do not provide a date when email was sent.

5.  FBI requested information about centralpark4804@live.com (different from email above) from Microsoft



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jan 13, 2018, 06:25:14 am
The Latest: Vegas gunman had emailed about bump stocks

https://foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/latest-vegas-gunman-had-emailed-about-bump-stocks.amp.html


::)  Of course this gets released around the same time as the Sandy Hook Report.



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Never did work out what really happened at Sandy Hook.

It was about that time period that elements in the Truther Community started posting extremely weak 'evidence'. By the time PizzaGate arrived, who I suspect Roger Stone concocted and manufactured, things got really bad. Richie Allen calls them the "Truther Industrial Complex". The other milestone I ought to mention was Boston Marathon Bombing, and the Crisis Actor Mania.

Its a difficult topic.

Qui Bono ?

See Also :
Roger Stone concocted Pizzagate for Trump?
http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=673.msg12568#msg12568



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 13, 2018, 06:53:15 am

Unfortunately,  I am not sure what happened at Sandy Hook.  I just have a feeling that official story is not right.

You are correct that there is so much disinformation (maybe on purpose) that it is hard to separate fact from fiction.

I know several states passed gun control immediately after.  But I believe some of that is several democratic governors positioning themselves for presidential runs.

In addition,  I know gun manufacturers benefited greatly from Sandy Hook.  People need to know that not every gun manufacturer is for the 2nd amendment.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jan 13, 2018, 07:24:06 am
Unfortunately,  I am not sure what happened at Sandy Hook.  I just have a feeling that official story is not right.

You are correct that there is so much disinformation (maybe on purpose) that it is hard to separate fact from fiction.

I agree that the official story asks more questions than it solves.



I know several states passed gun control immediately after.  But I believe some of that is several democratic governors positioning themselves for presidential runs.

In addition,  I know gun manufacturers benefited greatly from Sandy Hook.  People need to know that not every gun manufacturer is for the 2nd amendment.



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Yea, it gets complicated.
Have to ask a difficykt question that sounds counter-intuitive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterintuitive)
Would gun manufacturers encourage a gun grabbing meme that is doomed to failure, knowing that it would increase sales... ?

If people really wanted to end the violence, they my try advocating for a more equal society with more opportunities for the disadvantaged to escape poverty.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Jan 13, 2018, 07:40:26 am
The Latest: Vegas gunman had emailed about bump stocks

https://foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/latest-vegas-gunman-had-emailed-about-bump-stocks.amp.html

LAS VEGAS –  The Latest on a documents related to the Las Vegas shooting (all times local):

5:30 p.m.

The Las Vegas gunman exchanged emails about buying rifles and bump stocks months before he carried out the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history using guns equipped with the device that allows semi-automatic weapons to fire nearly as fast as automatic ones.

Stephen Paddock's emails were disclosed in affidavits unsealed Friday after several media organizations, including The Associated Press, fought for their release.

The documents said Paddock had received an email from a Gmail account in July encouraging him to try an AR-style rifle before buying one. It said, "we have huge selection" in the Las Vegas area.

Paddock wrote back that he wanted to try several scopes and different types of ammunition. An email in response suggested trying a bump stock on the rifle with a 100-round magazine.

Paddock's email address and the Gmail address had similar names. Investigators say they suspect he may have been emailing himself, but couldn't figure out why.


More at link --->  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/latest-vegas-gunman-had-emailed-about-bump-stocks.amp.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/12/latest-vegas-gunman-had-emailed-about-bump-stocks.amp.html)



::)  Of course this gets released around the same time as the Sandy Hook Report.



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Phoenix Rising says loudly :
I posted this "coincidence" back in October 2017 and the source was Tracy Beanz.
She and her friend Bee
searched through at least 4 different identification sites that various departments of the USA Govt. use .
She found 2 different photo of 2 different men who went by the same name "Stephen Paddock" at Mesquite Drive .
Both had pilot's licenses and many addresses, but different photos.
Soon this info was "disappeared from the sites."

This is the second time I am calling this anomaly to your attention.

People in High Places cannot figure out why MR Paddock would be emailing  HIMSELF and giving HIMSELF directions on using different ammo ?!
What about the possibility/probability that there were 2 different men using the "Stephen Paddock" identity ?

In this day and age, is that so impossible in the world of dirty tricks ?

Read my previous post directly below for clarification, folks.
Something big keeps slipping through the cracks that may be staring us right in front of our faces .

I see that no one has picked up and further investigated
the story that I posted a couple weeks ago
about there being 2 Stephen Paddocks.

2 different photos.
The second one I found had a pilot's license
and 30 different home addresses,
one which was in Mesquite, Nevada,
the same as the body identified in the hotel room as "Stephen Paddock", the alleged mass murderer.

Now I find this very suspicious,
as it has just slipped through the cracks.


I'll have to go back through my previous posts to re-post the source of this info.

Hang in there.


Will the REAL Paddock please STAND UP?!?!!?

Tracy Beanz
Published on Oct 2, 2017













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 13, 2018, 11:07:20 am
Phoenix Rising says loudly :
I posted this "coincidence" back in October 2017 and the source was Tracy Beanz.
She and her friend Bee
searched through at least 4 different identification sites that various departments of the USA Govt. use .
She found 2 different photo of 2 different men who went by the same name "Stephen Paddock" at Mesquite Drive .
Both had pilot's licenses and many addresses, but different photos.
Soon this info was "disappeared from the sites."

This is the second time I am calling this anomaly to your attention.

People in High Places cannot figure out why MR Paddock would be emailing  HIMSELF and giving HIMSELF directions on using different ammo ?!
What about the possibility/probability that there were 2 different men using the "Stephen Paddock" identity ?

In this day and age, is that so impossible in the world of dirty tricks ?

Read my previous post directly below for clarification, folks.
Something big keeps slipping through the cracks that may be staring us right in front of our faces .

Will the REAL Paddock please STAND UP?!?!!?

Tracy Beanz
Published on Oct 2, 2017


Thank you Phoenix.  Please keep bringing it up.   Maybe this is why they have not showed any video footage of Stephen Paddock in the MGM hotel or around Vegas.

I thought it was highly unusual  that photo "leaked" showing "Steven Paddock" dead in a hotel room soon after the shooting.  It was almost like shadow government learned from Sandy Hook to provide "evidence" to the masses as soon as possible to set up the lone gunman narrative.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jan 13, 2018, 12:58:15 pm
Unsealed Warrant  (24 pages)

http://documentcloud.org/documents/4349486-Warrants-1.html








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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Jan 13, 2018, 02:09:28 pm
Thank you Phoenix.  Please keep bringing it up.   Maybe this is why they have not showed any video footage of Stephen Paddock in the MGM hotel or around Vegas.

I thought it was highly unusual  that photo "leaked" showing "Steven Paddock" dead in a hotel room soon after the shooting.  It was almost like shadow government learned from Sandy Hook to provide "evidence" to the masses as soon as possible to set up the lone gunman narrative.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 13, 2018, 04:55:10 pm
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With Shady Hook Shooting we never seen photos of crime scene or Adam Lanza at the crime scene. I know many gun owners who are skeptical that Adam Lanza was capable of doing the shooting.

With the Las Vegas Shooting, they seemed in a rush to leak photos of the crime scene and the face of the dead "killer" at the crime screen.   So even if more information comes out that there might be multiple Steven Paddocks, people will not question the official story because they have already seen evidence  that the "killer" died in the hotel room.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Jan 13, 2018, 09:42:45 pm
Anyone know if Jones has been covering this? Good to know what he avoids or not.

Also, I'd like to know when these Paddocks got their pilot licenses. Mid 1970s to early 1980s would make this interesting. Any way to figure that out? Could be leftover agents from Iran-Contra/Fast and Furious type activities. Never make a deal with the devil; God won't be the one choosing your expiration date.  ;)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Jan 14, 2018, 08:57:49 am
Poseidonlost

I got this information within a day or two  of the Las Vegas shooting .

You would have to contact Tracy Beanz as she and her friend  Bea (Bee?) searched through  numerous record agencies
that handle motor vehicle licenses,
ownership of property,
pilots licenses, etc.,
anything that might also provide photo identification.

She expected that this information would be disappeared  pretty quickly by the agencies involved in the shooting,
that is, agencies that would want to cover-up photos
and any information that might shed light on the identity of that man accused of shooting the people at the Vegas concert.

Now I do not know how accurate her information  is/was.
Since Tracy is one of the folks monitoring the Q clues that are being released,
I don't know how reliable this info is.
However, I did notice that some of this information was also briefly mentioned
by posters from other sites,
but not in the detail that Tracy provided.

After posting it a couple times here to keep it fresh in our reader's minds,
I decided to drop it,
until I saw that noticed that Paddock was emailing himself about guns and ammunition,
but they could not figure out why he would do such a thing.

Then my brain goes "click!", and I remembered reporting this weird "coincidence" way back in October.

Is it true ?
I don't know.
But  if you play the video all the way through,
you can hear that Tracy was worried that this info would not be accessible to the public for very long.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to e-mail her,
and ask her more questions.

As you know, I am preoccupied with my medical problems and can only do so much.
Too bad,
because if this turned out to be  missing evidence
that implicates government agencies,
it could be dynamite.

Play the  entire video as she goes through the evidence step-by-step.
At least it's an exciting "ride".



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Title: Re: Las Vegas : New Crime Scene Photos - Add More Questions
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jan 22, 2018, 05:47:29 am
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Dozens Of New Crime Scene Photos Released From Vegas Shooting Add More Questions
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'The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department finally released a substantial amount of information this week in the form of 28 crime scene photographs. The photos show the alleged shooter’s room, vehicle, security setup, and even the infamous note. While these photos give us more insight into the shooting, they also leave us with many more questions.

The first photos in the series are not too damning, but they do show the extensive preparations taken by the shooter to prevent entry into the room.

The images also show how Stephen Paddock allegedly set up cameras to see if anyone was coming.'



Read More : Dozens Of New Crime Scene Photos Released From Vegas Shooting Add More Questions (http://www.activistpost.com/2018/01/dozens-new-crime-scene-photos-released-vegas-shooting-add-questions.html)


Icke (http://davidicke.com/article/452554/dozens-new-crime-scene-photos-released-vegas-shooting-add-questions)




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 06:04:00 am
Link to Las Vegas preliminary report.  Funny how it comes out when the federal government was nearing a shutdown.

http://lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 06:12:35 am
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If you look at some of the photos and read the list of weapons in report it is very strange that a lot of his rifles did not have any sights on them.    He could have a quick detach scope mounts for those rifles, but someone of his means could afford a scope/red dot for each rifle.  In addition, it is strange how haphazardly the rifles are places around the room.



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Corrected link for photo



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 06:19:50 am


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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 06:21:09 am
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Not sure if this door was the entry into the hotel room.  Supposedly the other door was shot up by Paddock when he encountered Jesus Campos and police outside the door.  If this is the other door, I expected at least some bullet holes in the door especially if he was supposedly using a bump stock.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 06:32:33 am
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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 06:33:25 am


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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 06:35:01 am
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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 06:44:58 am
They still have not told us what specific weapons listed in the inventory were used in the crime.  They have not provided clear photos of those weapons or the area where the killer was actually shooting from.

The paper where Paddock supposedly calculated the trajectory of bullets is lacking in detail.  Especially if he was using two different caliber weapons (.308 and .223/5.56).   In addition,  I believe the bullet drop also depends the type of ammo (55gr .223 vs  match grade ammo 75 gr  .223) and the type of scope you are using.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jan 22, 2018, 12:30:26 pm
They still have not told us what specific weapons listed in the inventory were used in the crime.  They have not provided clear photos of those weapons or the area where the killer was actually shooting from.

Have to wonder why they do not swamp us with irrelevant facts, such as his inventory, which raises my suspicions.

Just can not for the life of me see the point of using a variety of rifles. An olympic athlete has only 2, and takes extreme measures to make sure the backup is identical in every possible minute detail. In paddocks case it just does not make sense. Smuggling in 2 or even possibly 3 rifles is believable, but sneaking past the infamous vegas security enough rifles to open a gun shop is insane risk with not benefit. Different just two calibres, means having duplicate ammo which just introduces more chance of something going wrong.

This story has more stench than a fish market.


The paper where Paddock supposedly calculated the trajectory of bullets is lacking in detail.  Especially if he was using two different caliber weapons (.308 and .223/5.56).   In addition,  I believe the bullet drop also depends the type of ammo (55gr .223 vs  match grade ammo 75 gr  .223) and the type of scope you are using.



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Its an interesting question.

My only experience is with archery.

Changes of weight on an arrow changes the sight marks dramatically.
Only an arrow weighs several hundred grains, say 500 grains... and I was changing the point wieght by 25=20 grains.

Having said that, a rifle shoots a lot "flatter" than a bow and arrow.
Yet Paddock was shooting at well over 200yds

Hopefully somebody can give an answer.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jan 22, 2018, 12:44:52 pm
(https://www.mdshooters.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=223463&d=1516586828)

If you look at some of the photos and read the list of weapons in report it is very strange that a lot of his rifles did not have any sights on them.    He could have a quick detach scope mounts for those rifles, but someone of his means could afford a scope/red dot for each rifle.  In addition, it is strange how haphazardly the rifles are places around the room.



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Its UN-believable.

They got more chance of persuading me the moon is made out of cheese, and that's why parmesan cheese (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmigiano-Reggiano) is so expensive.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jan 22, 2018, 12:50:40 pm
Meanwhile, Alex CIA Jones is tweeting on  twit-ter that Paddock was "ISIS"  again . . . .


Feds now investigating more suspects in Vegas mass shooting-connections to ISIS found as cover up implodes!
@RealAlexJones (https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/954790587827392512)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 12:56:03 pm
Now they are claiming Paddock had child porn on his computer.  Remember his brother was arrested for the same thing.

_____________________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ _______

Las Vegas shooter Paddock had child porn on computer, FBI investigating person of interest: sheriff

https://foxnews.com/us/2018/01/19/las-vegas-shooter-paddock-had-child-porn-on-computer-fbi-investigating-person-interest-sheriff.html[/url]




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jan 22, 2018, 01:13:44 pm
Meanwhile, Alex CIA Jones is tweeting on  twit-ter that Paddock was "ISIS"  again . . . .


Feds now investigating more suspects in Vegas mass shooting-connections to ISIS found as cover up implodes!
@RealAlexJones (https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/954790587827392512)



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You forgot that Paddock is also connected to  Anitfa which is connected to the ISIS.     Maybe we should also throw in Black Lives Matter and mentally ill leftists and anyone else that will get us clicks.  We do not need proof to make these claims we can just say "sources".   ::)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Q on Jan 22, 2018, 05:20:17 pm
Meanwhile, Alex CIA Jones is tweeting on  twit-ter that Paddock was "ISIS"  again . . . .


Feds now investigating more suspects in Vegas mass shooting-connections to ISIS found as cover up implodes!
@RealAlexJones (https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/954790587827392512)



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I still remember his assertion that 'inside sources' told him that there was 'Antifa material everywhere'. Jones obviously just made it all up. Hilarious it was..

Even Paul Watson thought it was bullshit (from about 1 min in)..













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Title: Re: Las Vegas : Revelations What No Ones Talking About!
Post by: WeAreChange on Jan 23, 2018, 06:28:14 am
Vegas Revelations What No Ones Talking About!

WeAreChange
Published on Jan 23, 2018

In this video, Jason Bermas talks about the latest revelations in the media regarding the unprecedented event that took place in October, and what answers we have if any at this point, as well as the points no one is talking about.













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Title: Re: Las Vegas - man charged with selling bullets to killer
Post by: EvadingGrid on Feb 03, 2018, 05:33:13 am
The Guardian

Las Vegas shooting: man charged with selling bullets to killer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/03/las-vegas-shooting-man-charged-with-selling-bullets-to-killer



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - man charged with selling bullets to killer
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 03, 2018, 01:35:47 pm
The Guardian

Las Vegas shooting: man charged with selling bullets to killer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/03/las-vegas-shooting-man-charged-with-selling-bullets-to-killer



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Haig is charged with a single count of conspiracy to manufacture and sell Armour-piercing ammunition, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, according to the statement.

I wonder if this is the next phase of the gun control to go after people who reload and the selling of ammunition online. This move by the FBI smacks of desperation to  steer everyone's attention away from the lies, omissions and lack of proof that Steven Paddock actually carried out this crime.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 03, 2018, 02:10:47 pm
Judge orders release of Las Vegas shooting autopsy reports

https://reviewjournal.com/investigations/judge-orders-release-of-las-vegas-shooting-autopsy-reports/

Updated January 30, 2018 - 6:26 pm

A District Court judge on Tuesday ordered the Clark County coroner’s office to release the autopsy reports of Stephen Paddock and the 58 people he killed in the Oct. 1 Las Vegas massacre.

But as of late Tuesday, Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg had not complied with the order. He indicated he wouldn’t release Paddock’s autopsy report until it was “finalized.”

“I don’t believe this is consistent with what the court ordered,” said Las Vegas attorney Maggie McLetchie, who represents the Las Vegas Review-Journal and The Associated Press in their November action demanding the release of the reports. “They (the coroner’s office) have delayed this for too long, and whatever stage the coroner’s report on Paddock is in, it should be provided to the Review-Journal and Associated Press without further delay. No more games. Release the records.”

Review-Journal Editor-in-Chief Keith Moyer added: “The shooter’s body was cremated Dec. 21. How can the autopsy report not be ‘finalized’ when the body was cremated more than five weeks ago? The law is squarely on the side of the public’s right to open government.”

The coroner’s office has fought to keep autopsy reports confidential. Three weeks ago, a judge ordered the coroner to pay about $32,000 in legal costs to the Review-Journal for refusing to release public records to the newspaper.

McLetchie said Tuesday that Clark County District Judge Timothy Williams ordered Paddock’s autopsy report to be released immediately. Both news organizations agreed to receive the victims’ autopsy reports with their names removed. Fudenberg said in a statement issued late Tuesday that he would release the victims’ reports “as soon as possible.”

More at link -->  https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/judge-orders-release-of-las-vegas-shooting-autopsy-reports/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/judge-orders-release-of-las-vegas-shooting-autopsy-reports/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 03, 2018, 02:13:14 pm
Another quote from article above  https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/judge-orders-release-of-las-vegas-shooting-autopsy-reports/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/judge-orders-release-of-las-vegas-shooting-autopsy-reports/)


Quote
Earlier this month, the Review-Journal reported that Paddock’s body was cremated and his remains were released to his younger brother, Eric Paddock, who lives in Orlando, Fla.

The younger Paddock said he had to fly to Las Vegas to pick up his brother’s ashes because Fudenberg refused to send the remains directly to him in Orlando. Paddock said he did not understand why Fudenberg “decided to play games” with the remains.

Fudenberg maintained that he wanted to deliver the remains in a secure manner because of security concerns.

As of Tuesday, Paddock said, the coroner had not given him a copy of his brother’s report.

“It’s a shame the courts had to tell the guy to do his job,” Paddock said Tuesday.

The families of some of the victims have voiced concerns about the coroner’s delay in providing autopsy reports to them.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - man charged with selling bullets to killer
Post by: EvadingGrid on Feb 03, 2018, 03:32:21 pm

I wonder if this is the next phase of the gun control to go after people who reload and the selling of ammunition online. This move by the FBI smacks of desperation to  steer everyone's attention away from the lies, omissions and lack of proof that Steven Paddock actually carried out this crime.



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At a guess it will hit the legitimate enthusiasts, people who want uber matched rounds, collectors and other nice folks.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - man charged with selling bullets to killer
Post by: poseidonlost on Feb 03, 2018, 03:57:50 pm

I wonder if this is the next phase of the gun control to go after people who reload and the selling of ammunition online. This move by the FBI smacks of desperation to  steer everyone's attention away from the lies, omissions and lack of proof that Steven Paddock actually carried out this crime.



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Absolutely. I heard this all over the radio yesterday. Las Vegas was supposed to happen in a less gun friendly society and could've been the nail in the coffin for gun rights under a different president and congress. The bump stock ban push doesn't or didn't matter (I haven't been following it really); no one I know even heard of bump stocks before this, but...

This arrest is gun control already in action. The Second Amendment says, "shall not be infringed." In ten years the story could be, "he sold illegal 5.56 rounds," instead of just "armor-piercing" bullets.

Either way, it was still a person behind that gun, Paddock or not. It's the anti-gun agenda in general that's the killer. Luckily, the gun control agenda doesn't seem to stick with the people anymore. A generation has been raised since the issue of gun rights has come back; no one's buying it  ;)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - man charged with selling bullets to killer
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 03, 2018, 04:49:17 pm
The bump stock ban push doesn't or didn't matter (I haven't been following it really); no one I know even heard of bump stocks before this, but...

The reason I am concerned about the banning of bump stocks is that Congress has punted their responsibility to the ATF to outlaw "rate increasing devices" through rules and regulation.  The ATF will probably come up with a rule  that is so vague that not only does it ban bump stocks but it could also be interpreted by openly anti-gun administration to include bans on standard capacity magazines and after market triggers.  With states that are implementing bump stock bans they are telling those that own them they need to turn them into the police or destroy them.  No one is grandfathered and the state is not offering those that own them money to compensate for the loss of property.  This sets a dangerous precedent.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Feb 03, 2018, 05:09:14 pm
The reason I am concerned about the banning of bump stocks is that Congress has punted their responsibility to the ATF to outlaw "rate increasing devices" through rules and regulation.  The ATF will probably come up with a rule  that is so vague that not only does it ban bump stocks but it could also be interpreted by openly anti-gun administration to include bans on standard capacity magazines and after market triggers.  With states that are implementing bump stock bans they are telling those that own them they need to turn them into the police or destroy them.  No one is grandfathered and the state is not offering those that own them money to compensate for the loss of property.  This sets a dangerous precedent.

My point is to concentrate straight back to the entire beginning of "gun control"; the government never had any right from it's inception to infringe on any citizen's firearm possession at all and that banning bump stocks won't make anyone less lethal than they already are. It's a drop in the ocean compared to what unconstitutional laws are already on the books...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Feb 03, 2018, 05:19:11 pm
Also, I'm checking bump stock stuff and all I can find is some state resolutions while the ATF still hasn't made a statement about any rule changes, so I'm assuming it's still speculation at this time whether or not the ATF will even do anything about it? Or do you have anything other than just state government resolutions?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 03, 2018, 05:38:20 pm
The ATF recently put out an Advance notice of proposed rulemaking

https://federalregister.gov/documents/2017/12/26/2017-27898/application-of-the-definition-of-machinegun-to-bump-fire-stocks-and-other-similar-devices

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The Department of Justice anticipates issuing a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) that would interpret the statutory definition of “machinegun” in the National Firearms Act of 1934 and Gun Control Act of 1968 to clarify whether certain devices, commonly known as “bump fire” stocks, fall within that definition. Before doing so, the Department and ATF need to gather information and comments from the public and industry regarding the nature and scope of the market for these devices.
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I am guessing that the ATF has been given its marching orders to make this bump stock problem go away.   Any rule changes will not likely happen until after mid term elections are over.


At the end of last year momentum was building to take silencers off the National Firearms Act registry which would have been a huge victory in the quest to restore our 2nd amendment rights.  The Treasury would have lost millions of dollars and a legitimate case could have been made to reduce  ATF's operating budget since they devote so much manpower and money to processing registration forms for silencers.    The last time the ATF wanted more money for their operating budget Waco happened.  The timing of this massacre is definitely not a coincidence.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Feb 03, 2018, 06:08:02 pm
Ok so the ATF wants to make bump stocks a machine gun under the National Firearms Act of 1934, which in itself is unconstitutional (going back against the 2nd), but which they have not done yet. So we'd have to see what the perimeters are describing a bump stock. At this moment, if any of y'all are in a state that's enacted or thinking about enacting a bump stock ban, it's your problem. Fight it or leave that state.

Also, there's no such thing as a silencer. You can only suppress the barrel, never silence it. Holly Wood and politricktians made that up just like "assault weapons."



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 03, 2018, 08:44:46 pm
The devil will be in the details regarding what ATF and Justice Department do but given their track record, vigilance is warranted.

Blame Hiram Percy Mixam.  He patented the first recognized "silencer" in the US called the Maxim silencer, hence the its legal name in the NFA.   But I agree that silencers should more truthfully called suppressors or sound regulators. And without subsonic ammo,  suppressors do not make a gun hearing safe.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas : Why did coroner refuse to release autopsy?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Feb 06, 2018, 05:17:43 am


Why did coroner refuse to release Vegas shooter's autopsy?



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Icke (http://davidicke.com/article/455456/coroner-refuse-release-vegas-shooters-autopsy)




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 06, 2018, 08:16:25 am
Who made the decision to cremate Steven Paddock? From the news reports it says his brother picked up his ashes not the body from Las Vegas.
Was that done to ensure that his family would not conduct their own autopsy?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - MK-ultra & missing prostitute
Post by: EvadingGrid on Feb 07, 2018, 05:53:29 am
Vegas Killer Stephen Paddock’s Prostitute Lover Vanished Before Deadly Shooting Spree
'She was scared something would happen to her,' sex worker claims.

By Douglas Montero
Posted on Feb 2, 2018
https://radaronline.com/videos/las-vegas-killer-stephen-paddock-prostitute-lover-missing-before-shooting/

A prostitute that last seen with deranged Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock just before his deadly rampage has mysteriously vanished, RadarOnline has exclusively learned.

The Sin City escort was reported missing by her boyfriend several days after the Oct. 1 shooting that left 58 dead and 800 injured, a former sex worker — who once dated Paddock and is now cooperating with the FBI — told Radar in an exclusive interview.

“She was telling girls after work that she was scared something would happen to her,” claimed former escort Mikaela, whose full name is being withheld to protect her identity. “She was booked the day before or the day off the shooting before she disappeared.”

Mikaela, who now lives out of the country, heard about the missing woman from worried co-workers who knew she once worked as Paddock’s $6,000 a night prostitute – acting out his twisted pedophile and rape fantasizes.

Mikeala was hustling for an escort agency when she first met Paddock, a habitual high roller, in early 2015. After two dates the smitten 64-year-old volunteered to be her “sugar daddy.”

Soon she was hooking up with Paddock two to three times a month at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, even inside the same hotel room the madman used as his sniper’s nest during the worst mass shooting in American history.



What’s more, Radar has learned just before the rampage Paddock began sending bizarre text messages to another of Mikaela’s call girl pals, showing he was becoming completely unhinged and paranoid.

There’s messages where Stephen is telling her he’s a government experiment and that they are listening to everything he says and does, and they can hack into his brain and take over,” Mikaela said.





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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Feb 07, 2018, 05:57:24 am
Who made the decision to cremate Steven Paddock? From the news reports it says his brother picked up his ashes not the body from Las Vegas.
Was that done to ensure that his family would not conduct their own autopsy?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Brocke on Feb 07, 2018, 02:53:47 pm
FBI NIGHTMARE: Nevada Judge Orders Las Vegas Police to Release All Body Cam Footage from Mandalay Bay Massacre

https://truepundit.com/fbi-nightmare-nevada-judge-orders-las-vegas-police-release-body-cam-footage-mandalay-bay-massacre/
Things just got much more interesting in Las Vegas.
Much much more.
Let’s see how Las Vegas police and the FBI spin this. Or weasel out of complying.  This should help shine light onto and into one of America’s dark corners.
Judge rules that all documents from Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department’s investigation of 1 October must be released within 30 days.
The documents include all video evidence and body camera footage.  This story is developing.




Ref.

https://reviewjournal.com/news/investigations/judge-orders-release-of-las-vegas-shooting-autopsy-reports/



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 13, 2018, 02:28:03 pm
Las Vegas Coroner: Stephen Paddock died one day after he committed suicide

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11

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The report indicates the Date of Death as 10-2-17 and the Time of Death as 1200 hours.

So, the coroner’s office is stating in its official autopsy report for Stephen Paddock that Paddock died on Monday, October 2, 2017 at 12 noon, one day after he committed suicide as we were told by the police, was sometime on Sunday night, October 1, 2017, prior to the police making entry into his room at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

That obviously is not possible. The only rational explanation is that the autopsy report contains erroneous information, which to say the least is not only a major discrepancy but indicates a level of incompetence beyond imagination.

Clark County Coroner, John Fudenberg is now in good company along with Clark County Sheriff, Joe Lombardo who has shown his incompetence many times with his lies, misleading, convoluted and contradictory statements throughout the criminal investigation of the worst mass shooting in American history.

Just a week ago when the LVMPD search warrants and affidavits were released by court order to the public, we found out that an LVMPD sergeant swore under oath to a judge that police witnessed Paddock commit suicide as they made entry into his suite, 32-135 at the Mandalay Bay Hotel the night of October 1, 2017.

LVMPD Detective Sgt. Jerry Macdonald later told the press that was not true, nobody witnessed Paddock commit suicide and that he was dead upon entry and chalked it up to the confusion of the night and that it was par for the course. 



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Feb 13, 2018, 02:32:11 pm
From the article I posted above  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11), below are links to the autopsy report.

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/1.pdf

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2.pdf

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/3.pdf



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Feb 13, 2018, 03:02:10 pm
From the article I posted above  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11), below are links to the autopsy report.


https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2.pdf

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/3.pdf



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Feb 13, 2018, 03:03:46 pm
From the article I posted above  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11), below are links to the autopsy report.

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/1.pdf


https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/3.pdf



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Feb 13, 2018, 03:04:25 pm
From the article I posted above  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-coroner-stephen-paddock-died-one-day-committed-suicide/2018/02/11), below are links to the autopsy report.

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/1.pdf

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2.pdf





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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Mar 21, 2018, 12:33:53 pm
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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Mar 22, 2018, 06:59:37 am
They will release it at the exact same time the FBI releases the footage of the Oklahama City Bombing.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Mar 22, 2018, 10:11:08 am
Color me shocked.   Note that this footage and information was released exclusively to the New York Times who is painting a narrative in the video.  Video at the link.    Very interesting that this is release a couple days before the disarmament march on Saturday.

https://nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock.html



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: One Revelator on Mar 22, 2018, 01:13:59 pm
Color me shocked.   Note that this footage and information was released exclusively to the New York Times who is painting a narrative in the video.  Video at the link.    Very interesting that this is release a couple days before the disarmament march on Saturday.

https://nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock.html



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Cut, cut, cut. Loop, loop, loop. Fight, fight, fight.

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Fight the infowar!

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Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Mar 22, 2018, 10:44:06 pm
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmfX29YMUEHuaknmZTEh2SevL8XQy27kXgGvF4z5YFvVes




Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Mar 23, 2018, 07:19:17 am
Well I think this points more towards it being gun running gone wrong somehow. What was the purpose of buying a .308 rifle just days before and then not using it in the shooting? In the hands of a mass shooter, it seems like that would've been a blast for him. There's got to be more video that wasn't released.

And btw, it could've been any news to release this. The New York Times received what ANY other news organization would've also received. Just turn off the sound.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Mar 31, 2018, 01:11:19 am
Nearly 750 hours of video and 2,000 calls to 911 in Vegas shooting. Almost all of it remains unseen and unheard

https://chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-vegas-shooting-video-20180327-story,amp.html


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The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department has fought the release of those items in court for months — much as they fought the unsealing of search warrants related to Paddock after the shooting. State and federal judges ultimately ruled against the department and ordered hundreds of pages of search warrants be unsealed.

Last week, as MGM released its security camera footage and still images of Paddock, lawyers for Las Vegas police were arguing in court against the request of media outlets for police body-camera footage and 911 recordings made the night of the shooting.

The tug of war has resulted in police asking for — and being granted — a new judge to hear the case after another judge ordered the release of the requested items. In the meantime, the material — except for some edited video that was released days after the shooting — remains off-limits to the media.

Jackie Nichols, a lawyer for the police department, wrote in her brief last week that District Court Judge Richard Scotti’s March 2 ruling was “clearly erroneous because the government’s interest in non-disclosure significantly outweighs any interest the public has in access.”

The department, when ordered to comply with the public records requests, also cited a heavy toll on manpower and said reproducing the records would be a burdensome endeavor. According to the department, there are almost 750 hours of body-camera footage that would require review and the redaction of some items, a process that could take as long as six months to complete.

There were also 2,000 calls related to the shooting, police said, and the department has only three analysts qualified to oversee redactions on 911 calls. The department also argued in briefs that the material is “extremely graphic and it is against LVMPD policy to assign a single person to review.”

More at the link -->  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-vegas-shooting-video-20180327-story,amp.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-vegas-shooting-video-20180327-story,amp.html)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 02, 2018, 07:15:23 pm
Las Vegas drip feeding information about Las Vegas shooting but making sure to withhold important elements.  Just a reminder to remain scared of AR-15s so that media can push gun ban/confiscation agenda.

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Las Vegas police release some Oct. 1 body camera footage – VIDEO

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-release-some-oct-1-body-camera-footage-video/

Updated May 2, 2018 - 3:39 pm
Las Vegas police released body camera footage on Wednesday that depicts the moment officers breached the Oct. 1 gunman’s Mandalay Bay suite.

The footage consists of eight clips — four each from two different canine officers, Sgt. Joshua Bitsko and David Newton. The first officer to breach the first room, Levi Hancock, did not activate his body camera.

It’s unclear why the videos were provided in segments. They do not include timestamps.

In the footage released Wednesday, Bitsko and Newton can be seen racing to Mandalay Bay in their squad cars. In the background, police radio traffic describes the mass shooting scene as it grows progressively more dire.

Just before the breach, officers can be seen taking cover in a stairwell and covering their ears for protection.

“Breach, breach, breach,” one officer says. Then, the loud explosion of Stephen Paddock’s suite door can be heard.

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo announced Tuesday that the clips were part of many that would be released over the next several months in compliance with a court order. He estimated that the next batch of records would be released in two weeks.

More at the link --->  https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-release-some-oct-1-body-camera-footage-video/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-release-some-oct-1-body-camera-footage-video/)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 16, 2018, 07:02:52 pm

Las Vegas police release more records from Oct. 1 shooting

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-release-more-records-from-oct-1-shooting/

Updated May 16, 2018 - 2:43 pm

Las Vegas police on Wednesday released a series of witness statements from the night of the mass shooting.

The documents, dropped at noon, mark the first records of their kind released since the Oct. 1 tragedy, which left 58 people dead and hundreds more wounded on the final night of the Route 91 Harvest festival. Las Vegas Review-Journal reporters are currently analyzing them.

One of the many statements released Wednesday was that of Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos, who was shot in the leg on the 32nd floor hallway — the same hallway as the gunman’s suite. The statement was taken by a Henderson police officer.

The document is redacted, and Campos’ name is not visible. But the handwritten statement belonged to a security guard who initially was responding to an alarm that indicated a door was ajar on the 32nd floor.

When the guard encountered a locked stairwell, he went down a floor and instead took an elevator to the 32nd floor. He was shot shortly after the mass shooting began. Those details match statements Metro previously has released about Campos.

“Shots were fired as I was leaving and I got hit on my left calve,” according to the guard’s statement, which indicates that he then called for backup.
The statement was only one page, similar to the length of other witness statements. 


More at the link -->  https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-release-more-records-from-oct-1-shooting/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-release-more-records-from-oct-1-shooting/)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 16, 2018, 07:22:53 pm


Las Vegas massacre: Housekeeper describes interaction with gunman

https://cnn.com/2018/05/16/us/las-vegas-shooting-documents/index.html

Authorities in Las Vegas have released more documents from the investigation into the October 2017 shooting in which 58 people were killed and almost 500 others were wounded.

Documents released Wednesday include interviews with workers who interacted with the gunman on visits to the Mandalay Bay before the October 1 shooting.

Authorities do not know why Stephen Paddock fired indiscriminately from a hotel room at 22,000 concertgoers attending the Route 91 Harvest Festival. It became the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.

One of the last people to see Paddock was a housekeeper who cleaned his suite about four days before the massacre.

Paddock stayed in the room, which was mostly clean, except the bed and the bathroom, and spent much of his time on his computer, she said.
At first she didn't mind him being there but she grew uneasy.

"He (kept) staring at me," she said.

More at the link -->  https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/us/las-vegas-shooting-documents/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/us/las-vegas-shooting-documents/index.html)

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So Paddock who supposedly has thousand of rounds of ammo and numerous rifles in his hotel room allows a maid in to clean 4 days before the shooting?



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 16, 2018, 07:31:27 pm
The Latest: Mandalay Bay security guard describes being shot

https://startribune.com/the-latest-police-release-some-vegas-strip-shooting-records/482831691/

LAS VEGAS — The Latest on the release by Las Vegas police of witness statements and officer reports in the investigation of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history (all times local):

4:55 p.m.

Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos told police he was afraid he was going to be killed when he was shot by gunman Stephen Paddock while investigating a stairwell door that was being kept shut by a metal bracket.

Records released by Las Vegas police Wednesday show Campos was interviewed Oct. 4 on the 32nd floor of the casino-resort. That's the same floor from which the gunman carried out the attack.

Campos says he initially received a call from dispatch around 10 p.m. and was told to check "doors" as the property has a system that signals when a door has been opened for long periods.

He says he reached the 32nd floor through an elevator after noticing the stairwell door that leads to the hallway was locked or secured. He says he then walked down the hall and discovered a metal bracket keeping the door shut. He contacted security and maintenance.

Campos says he then heard what sounded like a "very loud drill," was shot in the left calf while walking away, heard what he described as automatic fire and contacted security dispatch.

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3:35 p.m.

A Las Vegas Strip casino host who told police that he met Stephen Paddock several times when he gambled over the years says he had a bit of a temper.

The man told police and the FBI on Oct. 7 that he would provide Paddock with hotel rooms and show tickets. He says he chatted with him from time to time while Paddock gambled.

The host's name was redacted from police reports made public Wednesday.

He described the man who authorities say killed 58 people and injured hundreds as an "odd guy" who liked to talk about gambling and traveling, and who once called screaming to complain that it took 20 minutes for his luggage to be brought to his room.

The host says Paddock once was given a penthouse presidential suite on the 51st floor of the Rio hotel, and that he later requested the room again several times.

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1:45 p.m.

A Las Vegas woman who witnessed the chaos of the mass shooting in Las Vegas says she knew the sounds of gunfire were not firecrackers when she saw a man nearby drop to the ground, his "eyes wide open lifeless."

As she crouched down, a massive spraying of bullets rained down and the unidentified woman thought the gunfire was coming from helicopters above.


Her account was among those provided by Las Vegas police in a DVD with witness statements and officer reports about last year's mass shooting that killed 58 people and injured hundreds on the Las Vegas Strip.

It was made public after a court battle by The Associated Press and other media organizations to obtain public records about the Oct. 1 shooting

The woman says she climbed a fence and sprinted toward a stage where she saw people taking cover. She had to jump over the dead body of a security guard on her way before crawling under a stage only a few feet high.

From there, she texted her sister-in-law who was watching her kids: "OMG, there's tons of gunshots and people dead everywhere."

More at the link -->  http://www.startribune.com/the-latest-police-release-some-vegas-strip-shooting-records/482831691/ (http://www.startribune.com/the-latest-police-release-some-vegas-strip-shooting-records/482831691/)

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Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 19, 2018, 08:58:24 am
Looks like they have decided on a narrative and profile to assign to Stephen Paddock.  It is not coincidence that they decided to release these "witness statements" and reference Waco, a gun confiscation operation by the ATF.
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Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock ranted about FEMA camps, Waco before concert massacre, witnesses say

https://foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html

The Las Vegas gunman ranted about conspiracy theories in the weeks before he gunned down 58 people and wounded hundreds more from his sniper perch inside a high-rise hotel last year, new documents reveal.

A jailed man who gave a statement to authorities in November said he encountered a man he believed was Stephen Paddock and who told him that Federal Emergency Management Agency “camps” setup after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 were “a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin' down doors and...confiscating guns.”

“Somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves,” the man said Paddock told him less than a month before the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. “Sometimes sacrifices have to be made.”

Separately, a woman wrote a handwritten account of her experience with Paddock, in which she said she heard him talk about armed standoffs. The woman reportedly overheard Paddock talking with another man at a Las Vegas restaurant three days before the shooting.

She told authorities that Paddock seemed upset about the deadly standoffs between law enforcement officers and militia groups at Waco, Texas in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992.

“At the time, I just thought 'strange guys' and I wanted to leave,” the woman told officials.

The Las Vegas Police Department on Wednesday released 1,200 pages of reports, including witness statements and officer testimony on the October massacre. Multiple witnesses who attended the Route 91 Harvest Festival concert said they thought they were hearing fireworks as the shooting was taking place.

More at the link -->  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Effie Trinket on May 19, 2018, 10:29:42 am
Looks like they have decided on a narrative and profile to assign to Stephen Paddock.  It is not coincidence that they decided to release these "witness statements" and reference Waco, a gun confiscation operation by the ATF.
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Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock ranted about FEMA camps, Waco before concert massacre, witnesses say

https://foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html

The Las Vegas gunman ranted about conspiracy theories in the weeks before he gunned down 58 people and wounded hundreds more from his sniper perch inside a high-rise hotel last year, new documents reveal.

A jailed man who gave a statement to authorities in November said he encountered a man he believed was Stephen Paddock and who told him that Federal Emergency Management Agency “camps” setup after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 were “a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin' down doors and...confiscating guns.”

“Somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves,” the man said Paddock told him less than a month before the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. “Sometimes sacrifices have to be made.”

Separately, a woman wrote a handwritten account of her experience with Paddock, in which she said she heard him talk about armed standoffs. The woman reportedly overheard Paddock talking with another man at a Las Vegas restaurant three days before the shooting.

She told authorities that Paddock seemed upset about the deadly standoffs between law enforcement officers and militia groups at Waco, Texas in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992.

“At the time, I just thought 'strange guys' and I wanted to leave,” the woman told officials.

The Las Vegas Police Department on Wednesday released 1,200 pages of reports, including witness statements and officer testimony on the October massacre. Multiple witnesses who attended the Route 91 Harvest Festival concert said they thought they were hearing fireworks as the shooting was taking place.

More at the link -->  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html)



Last Edit by Palmerston
One could not try HARDER to out themselves as a globalist narrative writing think tank with an article like that.

"“Somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves,”"

^  Pure globalist script writing---again making it only look like the ONLY people that defend their unalienable rights are mass murderers.



Last Edit by Palmerston

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5786278545001/?#sp=show-clips

Edit:

The alleged LV shooter may in fact have said what we're being told.  Completely possible--only under one condition, that he was a bonafide MKULTRA mind controlled assassin, psychologically, drug-tortured, and engineered into a future mass murderer by the CIA/globalists, and the globalists (UN, CFR, CSIS, RAND) having the audacity to lump in real, actual anti-New World Order individuals, (those who knew the actual facts bout WACO and Ruby Ridge), with this programmed MKULTRA assassin.

If someone like him were actually real, organic, acting on their own, non-controlled thoughts, and they wanted to take up arms against someone--they would have sacrificed their lives trying to kill the very criminals that crafted his PROGRAMMED, SCRIPT-IMPLANTED "MOTIVE".



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 19, 2018, 10:50:13 am
Looks like they have decided on a narrative and profile to assign to Stephen Paddock.  It is not coincidence that they decided to release these "witness statements" and reference Waco, a gun confiscation operation by the ATF.
_____________________________ _____________________________ ___________


Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock ranted about FEMA camps, Waco before concert massacre, witnesses say

https://foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html

The Las Vegas gunman ranted about conspiracy theories in the weeks before he gunned down 58 people and wounded hundreds more from his sniper perch inside a high-rise hotel last year, new documents reveal.

A jailed man who gave a statement to authorities in November said he encountered a man he believed was Stephen Paddock and who told him that Federal Emergency Management Agency “camps” setup after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 were “a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin' down doors and...confiscating guns.”

Somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves,” the man said Paddock told him less than a month before the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. “Sometimes sacrifices have to be made.”

Separately, a woman wrote a handwritten account of her experience with Paddock, in which she said she heard him talk about armed standoffs. The woman reportedly overheard Paddock talking with another man at a Las Vegas restaurant three days before the shooting.

She told authorities that Paddock seemed upset about the deadly standoffs between law enforcement officers and militia groups at Waco, Texas in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992.

“At the time, I just thought 'strange guys' and I wanted to leave,” the woman told officials.

The Las Vegas Police Department on Wednesday released 1,200 pages of reports, including witness statements and officer testimony on the October massacre. Multiple witnesses who attended the Route 91 Harvest Festival concert said they thought they were hearing fireworks as the shooting was taking place.

More at the link -->  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html)



Last Edit by Palmerston

He sounds like an infowars Alex Jones fan ranting about FEMA camps.  :P



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 19, 2018, 05:18:52 pm
He sounds like an infowars Alex Jones fan ranting about FEMA camps.  :P



Last Edit by Palmerston

Pre or post Trump Infowars fan?     :P



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 24, 2018, 07:04:30 pm
FBI’s elite hostage rescue team and the Las Vegas Police trained for similar mass-shooting scenario years before

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/fbis-elite-hostage-rescue-team-las-vegas-police-trained-similar-mass-shooting-scenario-years/2018/05/04

LAS VEGAS — A training exercise conducted by the FBI’s elite Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) and attended by members of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department was eerily similar to the sniper attack from an elevated position that occurred on October 1, 2017 at the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas, according to law enforcement sources who spoke to the Baltimore Post-Examiner.

On that night Stephen Paddock fired approximately 1100 rounds of ammunition from his 32ndfloor suite windows down into a crowd of 22,000 concert-goers killing 58 and wounding over 400.

Sometime after the Sahara Hotel in Las Vegas closed in May of 2011 and prior to renovations to transform the property into the SLS Resort, the property was used for a training exercise conducted by FBI and LVMPD personnel.

During the training exercise, a mannequin was placed inside one of the high-rise tower rooms near a window, to simulate an attacker.  An FBI HRT sniper inside an FBI helicopter hovering over the Las Vegas Strip successfully made the shot and hit the mannequin.

According to the law enforcement sources who spoke to the Baltimore Post-Examiner, then Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie was unaware that the maneuver was going to be part of the exercise and was livid when he found out what happened. Another ranking member of the LVMPD at the time, according to one source, stated that they would no longer train for such scenarios and if an incident similar to the training exercise should happen in the future they would accept liability for the outcome.

More at the link --->  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/fbis-elite-hostage-rescue-team-las-vegas-police-trained-similar-mass-shooting-scenario-years/2018/05/04 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/fbis-elite-hostage-rescue-team-las-vegas-police-trained-similar-mass-shooting-scenario-years/2018/05/04)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 24, 2018, 07:12:16 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Las Vegas SWAT was ordered not to respond to Mandalay Bay mass shooting

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/breaking-news-las-vegas-swat-ordered-not-respond-mandalay-bay-mass-shooting/2018/05/24
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The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department’s Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) team was ordered not to directly respond to the Mandalay Bay Hotel the night of the October 1 massacre, according to law enforcement source who spoke to the Baltimore Post-Examiner.

The LVMPD has been criticized why entry into gunman Stephen Paddock’s suite was not made until one hour and five minutes after the last shots were fired.  According to the most current timeline given by the police, the last shots were fired at 10:15 p.m.  Entry was made into the suite at 11:20 p.m.

According to the information provided to the Baltimore Post-Examiner, which was also confirmed on Wednesday in documents that were released by the LVMPD, the SWAT team was ordered by the SWAT commander to stage at the South Central Area Command (SCAC) and not to directly respond to the Mandalay Bay Hotel, where Paddock had fired from his 32ndfloor suite.

To note, some SWAT officers for reasons unknown did not respond to the SCAC but headed to the Mandalay Bay directly.

The SCAC is approximately one-half mile south of the Mandalay Bay Hotel on Las Vegas Boulevard.

More at the link -->  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/breaking-news-las-vegas-swat-ordered-not-respond-mandalay-bay-mass-shooting/2018/05/24
 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/breaking-news-las-vegas-swat-ordered-not-respond-mandalay-bay-mass-shooting/2018/05/24)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on May 25, 2018, 02:43:25 pm
Looks like they have decided on a narrative and profile to assign to Stephen Paddock.  It is not coincidence that they decided to release these "witness statements" and reference Waco, a gun confiscation operation by the ATF.
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Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock ranted about FEMA camps, Waco before concert massacre, witnesses say

https://foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html

The Las Vegas gunman ranted about conspiracy theories in the weeks before he gunned down 58 people and wounded hundreds more from his sniper perch inside a high-rise hotel last year, new documents reveal.

A jailed man who gave a statement to authorities in November said he encountered a man he believed was Stephen Paddock and who told him that Federal Emergency Management Agency “camps” setup after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 were “a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin' down doors and...confiscating guns.”

“Somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves,” the man said Paddock told him less than a month before the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. “Sometimes sacrifices have to be made.”

Separately, a woman wrote a handwritten account of her experience with Paddock, in which she said she heard him talk about armed standoffs. The woman reportedly overheard Paddock talking with another man at a Las Vegas restaurant three days before the shooting.

She told authorities that Paddock seemed upset about the deadly standoffs between law enforcement officers and militia groups at Waco, Texas in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992.

“At the time, I just thought 'strange guys' and I wanted to leave,” the woman told officials.

The Las Vegas Police Department on Wednesday released 1,200 pages of reports, including witness statements and officer testimony on the October massacre. Multiple witnesses who attended the Route 91 Harvest Festival concert said they thought they were hearing fireworks as the shooting was taking place.

More at the link -->  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.html)



Last Edit by Gladstone

I can't find an actual source on this. Only MSM quoting each other with this being the origin... AP...

https://apnews.com/f467daaa52864d3ba2eaca4c7708e2e5

Of course, these news agents, hard at work, have to fight tooth and nail against the police who hate revealing information, only to not even provide the actual documents  ::)

And it's now canon on wikipedia



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 26, 2018, 07:46:42 am
I can't find an actual source on this. Only MSM quoting each other with this being the origin... AP...

https://apnews.com/f467daaa52864d3ba2eaca4c7708e2e5

Of course, these news agents, hard at work, have to fight tooth and nail against the police who hate revealing information, only to not even provide the actual documents  ::)

And it's now canon on wikipedia



Last Edit by Palmerston

If I find any source documents I will definitely provide a link.  Doug Poppa from Baltimore Examiner has been posting some of the transcripts of interviews in his recent articles.

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Mandalay Bay armed security officer and Las Vegas policeman were on 32nd floor while Paddock was still firing from room

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/mandalay-bay-armed-security-officer-las-vegas-policeman-32nd-floor-paddock-still-firing-room/2018/05/24

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The following is the transcription of a tape-recorded interview conducted by Detective B. Hodson (BH), LVMPD Force Investigation Team, on 10-12-17 at 11:56.  Also present were FBI Special Agent J. Mollica (JM) and D. Howell (DH).

This is Detective Breck Hodson, P#9034 with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Force Investigation Team conducting a taped statement with Mr. [Name redacted], is that correct?  This is going to be a taped statement reference Event #171001-3519.  Today’s date’s going to be October 12th, 2017 and the time is approximately 1156 hours in the morning. The taped statement will be conducted inside the Mandalay Bay at 3950 South Las Vegas Boulevard.  Also present for the interview is Special Agent James Mollica and [Name redacted] from the MGM.

[Security supervisor’s name redacted] I appreciate you coming in today.  You understand this interview is being recorded, that is correct?

Supv:  Yes, sir.

BH: What do you recall from that night in your own words?

Supv: Around 2100 hours approximately we had found two prostitutes, recognized prostitutes in a bar on the casino floor, Mizuya Lounge.  We escorted the two women to our holding room, the casino security office, where I, we did pat down searches on them.  They had false ID on both of them and also regular ID.  I made the phone call for Metro to show, I’m going to guess probably around 2120 hours – I’m sorry – 2140 hours, Metro arrived. They began to do the paperwork, and I’m going, you know, you’re not recording times because you don’t know what’s going to happen, right.  So, I’m going by a guesstimate, a good guesstimate, I’m going to say 21 – 0r 2200 hours.

A radio transmission came over Metro Officer Hendrick’s radio, “Shots fired, festival lot across from Luxor.”  Officer Hendrix looks at me and said, “Did you hear that?” And I said, “Yeah, that’s right across the street.”  And right after I said that over Metro’s radio again came, “Headed to Mandalay Bay.”

And it was like basically everybody went, “Oh shit.” And then we ran out of the CSO [casino security office] towards the casino floor.  My intention was to head towards the Dragon Falls on the corner of Las Vegas Boulevard and Mandalay Bay Road.

OK, because that would have been the logical entry from the festival lot if they were heading to Mandalay Bay.  So, my intention was to go out the tram doors to start heading in that direction, but as we hit the craps tables our radio transmission came from our security officer who was patrolling the hotel at the time [name redacted in report, but this was S/O Jesus Campos] his radio transmission was Control, shots fired, 32ndfloor, 100 wing, I think I’ve been hit.

So as soon as we heard that I yelled at Hendrix and said, “Elevators – elevators, shots fired on – elevators – elevators.” So, we ran, we grabbed an elevator.  My [name redacted], Officer Hendrix with metro, his trainee – which I don’t know the name, it was her first day – and myself we were in the elevator heading up to 32.  When we hit around the 23rdto 25thfloor our radio traffic came on and said, “Shots fired 31stfloor.”  So, I pushed the 31stbutton.

And the 32 was obviously pressed already.  We were all going to 32.  Doors opened on 32.  [Name redacted] and the training Metro officer got off on the 31stfloor.  Me and Hendrix got off on the 32ndfloor.  When we got off on the 32ndfloor we heard active shooting still going on.

BH: So, hold on, so Hendrix is – was he with you on 32?

Supv:  Mm – hm.

BH: He left his trainee down on 31?

Supv:  He – the trainee got off with my two assistants on 31.  And Hendrix went up with me to 32.  When the elevator doors opened we heard active, semi-fire.  It was basically (making gunfire noises).  We head—we turn the wing, because the 100 wing when you came out of the elevator bank was on the right.  We turned the wing.  I hugged the left wall at center core.  He hugged the right wall and there was active shooting going on in the room for approximately two minutes more. About two minutes more there was still gunfire going on.  Then it got quiet. That was it, done.  And then myself and Officer Hendrix with our weapons drawn on the room way down the hallway now.

We maintained, we maintained our position, to conceal, to confine rather, that room, hopefully, nobody would be coming out.  And then we waited, and then I’m going to say about maybe three to four minutes later some uniform Metro cops started showing up, gathering in center, center core. And then, armor set up in front. Had two officers laying on the floor with their rifles drawn on the room.  One in the left, one on the right.  And then, after awhile a decision was made to try to start to evacuate.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on May 31, 2018, 03:56:17 pm
Let us get more specific, 'truthers.'

https://lauraloomer.us/blog/lombardo-lied-new-vegas-shooting-documents-reveal-three-women-found-in-stephen-paddock-s-room

Lombardo Lied: New Vegas Shooting Documents Reveal Three Women Found In Stephen Paddock’s Room

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Recent documents released regarding the the October 1, 2017 Las Vegas Shooting are beginning to shed light on more discrepancies and abnormalities surrounding the official timeline and narrative of the tragedy as originally stated by Sheriff Joe Lombardo and Special Agent Aaron Rouse of the Las Vegas FBI , including documentation that three women were found in the alleged shooter's room.

This makes things very interesting...

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There are also dispatch logs showing that the night of the Las Vegas shooting, LVMPD  knew that Danley had followers on her Facebook page who showed ISIS “beheading videos” on their Facebook pages. While independent journalists were first to report that Danley deleted her Facebook page immediately following the Las Vegas shooting, it was later confirmed in January of 2018 when police search warrants were released. It is also worth noting that immediately following the Las Vegas shooting, ISIS claimed responsibility for the shooting, claiming Paddock was an ISIS terrorist who converted to Islam six months prior to the attack. Even after the FBI  said ISIS wasn't involved, ISIS has continued to take responsibility for the Vegas shooting nearly four times, and has even published ISIS propaganda since the shooting in which they promise to attack Vegas again.

And here is the documentation. Available for download...

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/51a4c2da-15ed-473d-8cf3-ab50062f06e2



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on May 31, 2018, 04:29:40 pm
Lots of interesting stuff in this report so far. 3 shooters confirmed, more than two shooters confirmed, has machine gun - need swat...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 31, 2018, 06:47:06 pm
Mandalay Bay Security Officer Campos failed to mention engineer in police statement

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/mandalay-bay-security-officer-campos-failed-mention-engineer-police-statement/2018/05/28

Mandalay Bay Security Officer, Jesus Campos along with Maintenance Engineer, Steven Schuck appeared on the Ellen DeGeneres show last October what was an apparent publicity stunt orchestrated by MGM Resorts International, the owners of the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

During their appearance on the comedians show last year, Campos stated, “There was a female that came out and I told her to get back inside it wasn’t safe.  Shortly after, that’s when Steven was approaching, and I told him to stay back and get cover and that’s when more rounds were dispersed.”

“And I believe it was outside, it wasn’t in the hallway yet, and that’s when Jesus, he leaned out and he said ‘take cover, take cover,’ yelled at me, within milliseconds if he didn’t say that I would have been hit,” Schuck said,

It was such a compelling account on the show when considering that on October 4, 2017, when Campos was interviewed by LVMPD Detective B. Penny during his recorded statement to the police, he did not make any mention of Steven Schuck, nor did he mention anything about the female who came out of her room.

Campos completed a Henderson Police Department witness statement on October 2, 2017, at 2:25 a.m. while he was at St. Rose Sienna Hospital in Henderson, Nevada.

Campos wrote: “On Saturday October 1st2017, at approximately 2200 hours I was responding to HotSos room using stairwell attempting to open door on 32 floor 100 wing.  It was blocked off, went down a floor to use another wings stairwell.  Approaching room 32-135 shots were fired as I was leaving, and I got hit on my left calf. Called for backup and Security Dispatch sent armed security with shift manager [name redacted] responded and I was evacuated and went down to baggage area where SWAT cleared area then got medical treatment.  Four Metro officers first responded before I was evacuated, then SWAT.”

More at the link -->  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/mandalay-bay-security-officer-campos-failed-mention-engineer-police-statement/2018/05/28 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/mandalay-bay-security-officer-campos-failed-mention-engineer-police-statement/2018/05/28)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on May 31, 2018, 07:31:20 pm
Aright, read it all.

https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/51a4c2da-15ed-473d-8cf3-ab50062f06e2

I find it strange how they report three women 'there.' Reading the report it seems like they're giving the strike team information on who booked the room and then it's reported, three women 'there.' Later on, I wasn't writing down the times yet forgive me (guess you'll have to read it yourself), they report one suspect down. Not exactly sure what was going on with the three women thing. I tried looking all the way through the identifying numbers/call signs for a request on information, but couldn't find any.

Another very interesting part is a reported stolen vehicle. The way it was identified with numbers and a secured shotgun inside makes me think it was a police vehicle. At 06:11 it's reported to be found at Reno and Haven (I think? Idk the streets around there).

I didn't see one witness/victim statement saying there was only one shooter. All of the reports were of three or at least two shooters throughout. At 00:42, person reported helicopter, then two quick shots, and then a machine gun from another location. 04:50, three shooters. At 05:00, two shooters from different distances. There were more, but I wasn't writing down the times yet.

And I'm not sure if this fits the official narrative so far, so I'm wondering if y'all know. At 06:52, police were reporting X-raying bags of ammo in a vehicle, wasn't sure if they were specifically talking about the shooter's vehicle.

Going back:

The 'three women' report is at 23:06:36

Preparing to breach at 23:20:03

1 suspect down at 23:25:12



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: One Revelator on May 31, 2018, 10:57:47 pm
At 00:42, person reported helicopter, then two quick shots, and then a machine gun from another location.

That's confirmed on cellphone audio from somebody standing near gate 6 inside the venue. There are three semi-auto shots fired nearby with hits in the distance prior to the opening 100+ round belt-fed machine gun salvo.

Mike Adams also confirmed at least 2 separate shooters at ~400 and ~250-275 yards positioned outside the venue with simple audio forensics.

Lombardo was tapped to be the PR mouthpiece. I've yet to see LVMPD on the front PR line.

I've personally heard from 2 professionals, 1 still active duty, that an M240 or M249 was used. The sound is that distinctive.

Official solution is to confiscate all evidence, abruptly cut off all press conferences, and ban bump stocks.

I'm not even sure the leaked crime scene photos weren't staged. I know of a few people and their relatives that were there that night. Whatever happened, they're keeping it to themselves for now. I'd probably do the same if I were in their shoes.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Donnay on May 31, 2018, 11:59:06 pm












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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Jun 01, 2018, 08:11:18 am
I've personally heard from 2 professionals, 1 still active duty, that an M240 or M249 was used. The sound is that distinctive.

Certainly weren't .223 rounds. They barely even have any recoil to them let alone such a sound as we heard. A child can easily shoot an AR-15 with .223. I'm seriously not sure whether or not a paintball gun has more recoil.

I'm not even sure the leaked crime scene photos weren't staged.

There were clean empty shell casings on top of the coagulated blood pool remember. Had to land on top after the blood sat there for a while.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 01, 2018, 08:24:35 am
I still do not know what happened that day.

While I expected the usual "lone gunmen" line from the authorities, however, nothing prepared me for the deceitful reporting from the Alt Media. I'm still fuming that Jones had the gaul to go on air and claim it was "AntiFa" because the CIA told him so.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Jun 01, 2018, 08:51:53 am
I still do not know what happened that day.

While I expected the usual "lone gunmen" line from the authorities, however, nothing prepared me for the deceitful reporting from the Alt Media. I'm still fuming that Jones had the gaul to go on air and claim it was "AntiFa" because the CIA told him so.



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Lol classic. It was thoroughly disgusting to hear how much faith listeners have in him while I listened to the show on the day of the Santa Fe shooting.

Idk much about Laura Loomer, but I hope she and others get the message that Jones can't be trusted at all.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Donnay on Jun 01, 2018, 09:15:40 am
I still do not know what happened that day.

While I expected the usual "lone gunmen" line from the authorities, however, nothing prepared me for the deceitful reporting from the Alt Media. I'm still fuming that Jones had the gaul to go on air and claim it was "AntiFa" because the CIA told him so.



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Do you have the video where Jones actually said that in full context?

As I recall he said it was a terrorist attack from the information he got from inside sources.

Here is a flashback:












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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 01, 2018, 01:12:49 pm
Do you have the video where Jones actually said that in full context?

As I recall he said it was a terrorist attack from the information he got from inside sources.




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I thought everybody knew !
Still, if you did not know it probably does sound like some outrageous smear on Jones's character.

On this thread it becomes the topic about here http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2297.msg13447#msg13447

Here is the show for that day :

CAUTION may contain blaming Anti-Facists in alliance with ISIS <--- LOL










When it gets to be written up, the headline source changes to FBI, but inside the article its back to quoting the CIA Source but describing them as deep-level intelligence insider
https://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-vegas-shooter-found-with-antifa-literature-photos-taken-in-middle-east/

But about the after the 32:30 mark he brags about his CIA Sources.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Donnay on Jun 02, 2018, 09:42:25 am
I thought everybody knew !
Still, if you did not know it probably does sound like some outrageous smear on Jones's character.

On this thread it becomes the topic about here http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=2297.msg13447#msg13447

Here is the show for that day :

CAUTION may contain blaming Anti-Facists in alliance with ISIS <--- LOL










When it gets to be written up, the headline source changes to FBI, but inside the article its back to quoting the CIA Source but describing them as deep-level intelligence insider
https://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-vegas-shooter-found-with-antifa-literature-photos-taken-in-middle-east/

But about the after the 32:30 mark he brags about his CIA Sources.



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The shooting happened on October 2, so there was lots of information coming in.  Here we are 8 months later and we still don't have the full story.  So your throwing Jones under the bus because he was reporting from the information he was receiving which is turning out to be correct from his sources.

Many of his sources were talking about ISIS from the very beginning and as Laura Loomer investigated / reported, it is starting to look more and more like it was indeed a terrorist attack and Paddock was a patsy.
























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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 08, 2018, 06:39:04 pm
Police release first 911 calls from Las Vegas shooting


https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/police-release-first-911-calls-from-las-vegas-shooting/

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Though the shooting unfolded at the Route 91 venue, in the first few hours after gunshots began, the entire Strip fell into chaos.

Crying and crammed into a hallway leading to a service elevator at the Tropicana, one woman told a dispatcher she heard what she thought were shots. She and the 20 or so other people hiding there didn’t feel safe.

Another woman hiding in a Paris Las Vegas gift shop asked the dispatcher to “hurry,” because she reported hearing gunshots and people screaming. Callers from the Bellagio described hysteria there, too, as people ran and screamed, “Shooter!”

One caller, who found shelter in a building near McCarran International Airport, told a dispatcher her friend had texted from the Hooters Hotel that a shooter was inside there.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas - NEW Video : Team Being Told to Turn Off Body Cams
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 18, 2018, 02:29:00 am
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The Activist Post


“Cameras Off”: New Video Shows Vegas Shooting Strike Team Being Told to Turn Off Body Cams
http://www.activistpost.com/2018/06/cameras-off-new-video-shows-vegas-shooting-strike-team-being-told-to-turn-off-body-cams.html


 

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For months, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department has been caught lying, railroading journalists, and done everything in their power to keep the facts on what happened on 1 October from ever reaching the public.

The department’s desire to keep the information secret was so overwhelming that they fought its release all the way to the Nevada Supreme Court. Early last month, however, the court rejected the police department’s bid to keep the records secret and they are now forced to hand everything over. Instead of cataloged evidence and detailed reports, however, they’re merely releasing random unlabeled pieces of information.

A large dump of video taken from 28 different body cameras was released this week. According to the Las Vegas Review Journal, most of the videos had no time stamps, but they were taken at some point during the response to Stephen Paddock carrying out the massacre.'



Read More : “Cameras Off”: New Video Shows Vegas Shooting Strike Team Being Told to Turn Off Body Cams (http://www.activistpost.com/2018/06/cameras-off-new-video-shows-vegas-shooting-strike-team-being-told-to-turn-off-body-cams.html)


Icke (http://davidicke.com/article/481328/cameras-off-new-video-shows-vegas-shooting-strike-team-told-turn-off-body-cams)




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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 18, 2018, 07:30:35 am
Newly released footage follows officers through Las Vegas shooting

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/newly-released-footage-follows-officers-through-las-vegas-shooting/amp/


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The sixth batch of Route 91 Harvest festival shooting records included 28 body camera videos and about 500 audio files from the night of the tragedy, which left 58 concertgoers dead and hundreds more injured.

The videos ranged in length from a few seconds to more than two hours and provided the most detailed look yet inside the concert venue during the shooting. Metro released the clips under court order after a monthslong legal battle brought on by the Las Vegas Review-Journal and other media organizations.





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Legal fight goes on

None of the footage released Wednesday included the names of the officers behind the cameras. When the Review-Journal asked Metro for that information, the department’s public information office never replied.

Instead, Metro’s private attorneys contacted the newspaper’s lawyer and threatened “judicial intervention” should reporters continue to ask police employees for additional details, clarifications or “any other subject matter involving this litigation.”

The original lawsuit sought the release of Oct. 1 records including body camera footage, 911 calls and interview reports.

“Attorneys for Las Vegas police are breaking new ground for absurd, vindictive legal arguments,” Review-Journal Executive Editor Glenn Cook said Wednesday. “Making reporters direct questions about police records to private lawyers is a slap in the face to taxpayers.”



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 18, 2018, 07:56:13 am
Massive cover-up continues.  Unfortunately, I am only seeing the same footage recycled by newspapers.  Not surprising that media is not covering this.

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Las Vegas Police do know the location of all surveillance cameras on strip, sources say

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-police-do-know-the-location-of-all-surveillance-cameras-on-strip-sources-say/2018/06/16

LAS VEGAS —  During a court hearing the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department’s attorney Nick Crosby told Judge Stefany Miley on May 29 that the department may not have a list of all the surveillance cameras that are located along the Las Vegas Strip.

Law enforcement sources who spoke to the Baltimore Post-Examiner contradicted Crosby’s statement to the Court and said that it is absurd to think that the LVMPD doesn’t know the location of surveillance cameras along Las Vegas Boulevard.

They know what hotel-casino properties have video surveillance cameras said one source. Strip properties routinely are asked for copies of video surveillance footage when crimes occur on or near their properties.

The LVMPD also knows the location of every traffic camera located along Las Vegas Boulevard, the source said.

One retired LVMPD police officer told the Baltimore Post-Examiner on Friday that Crosby’s statement to the Court was pure bull. That officer said that the LVMPD for years has had dozens of their own video surveillance cameras located along the entire length of the Las Vegas Strip.

Those cameras, he said, are controlled by LVMPD personnel who are assigned to the Fusion Center. Those cameras have pan-tilt-zoom capability and can zero in on anything that occurs on the Strip.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 18, 2018, 08:06:34 am
Deployed Intelligence Officers and Protective Security Advisors

https://dhs.gov/publication/deployed-intelligence-officers-and-protective-security-advisors

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) deploys Intelligence Officers and Protective Security Advisors to support state, local, tribal, territorial, and private sector partners in advancing the homeland security mission. Intelligence officers are embedded in recognized state and major urban area fusion centers to advance the sharing of threat related information among federal, state, local, tribal, territorial, and private sector partners. Protective security advisors engage these partners as regional critical infrastructure security and resilience specialists, providing local perspective to—and supporting the development of—the national risk picture by identifying, assessing, monitoring, and minimizing risk to critical infrastructure at the regional, state, and local levels. Their distinct yet complementary roles enable intelligence officers and protective security advisors to jointly support DHS partners in ensuring the safety and security of our nation.

State and major urban area fusion centers (fusion centers) serve as focal points within the state and local environment for the receipt, analysis, gathering, and sharing of threat-related information between the federal government and state, local, tribal, territorial (SLTT) and private sector partners.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 19, 2018, 04:46:01 pm

Well, at least we can depend on the FBI to be consistent in hiding evidence.

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FBI, banks stall Paddock assets set to go to 1 October victims

https://fox5vegas.com/story/38428750/fbi-banks-stall-paddock-assets-set-to-go-to-1-october-victims

LAS VEGAS (FOX5) -
Lawyers working on 1 October shooter, Stephen Paddock's estate Thursday said eight months after the mass shooting, and they still have no idea what he owned, or what he could have been worth.

"I understand you have not been able to get the access you wanted," Judge Gloria Sturman said.

Paddock's family has said they want nothing to do with his estate, they want everything to go to the victims.

"We are doing this at the request of [Paddock's] family they want none of Mr. Paddock's property," Judge Sturman said.

Larry Bertsch, a forensic financial accountant was put in charge of figuring out Paddock's assets.

"The order the court gave him is specific. It asks him to preserve, protect and collect," Alice Denton, Bertsch's lawyer said.

Larry Bertsch said so far, they've discovered Paddock had two homes, one in Mesquite and one in Reno. Bertsch said he also had two bank accounts: one with Wells Fargo and one with Nevada State Bank.

"The bank accounts, we are having much difficulty with," Denton told the judge. "We are receiving resistance from them."

Denton said in the Wells Fargo account alone, Paddock had at least $85,000. She said she doesn't know how much could be in the Nevada State Bank account.

"We have it on good information there is money in there, and they are refusing to give Mr. Bertsch access to it," Denton said to reporters after the hearing.

In court, it was brought up that it's not just the banks giving them a hard time. Mr. Bertsch said the FBI is also hampering his efforts in finding out about Paddock's belongings. Bertsch said all records and computers were seized from Paddock's home, and the FBI is refusing to give him access to them.


More at the link ---->  http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/38428750/fbi-banks-stall-paddock-assets-set-to-go-to-1-october-victims (http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/38428750/fbi-banks-stall-paddock-assets-set-to-go-to-1-october-victims)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 28, 2018, 08:18:49 pm
Go to around the 1.25 mark.  Jesus Campos supposedly got shot in the leg with a rifle round but no blood and they are not providing him with medical attention.














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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Jun 29, 2018, 05:55:38 am
Go to around the 1.25 mark.  Jesus Campos supposedly got shot in the leg with a rifle round but no blood and they are not providing him with medical attention.

Weird man. Definitely not right. He's just chillin holding up his pant leg. So he was conscious of being shot, standing up, and lightly holding his leg with a slight limp. No blood, coming down from adrenaline, able to walk at all really (that was like a sprain limp, forget being within 25/50 yards and no tendons have been ripped to shreds lol)

If you know anything about football or sports at least, where he's holding is the ACL or MCL tendon (forgot which exactly), one of the most debilitating and painful places to rip. Maybe someone with more knowledge of anatomy could explain better.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: One Revelator on Jun 29, 2018, 11:42:08 am
Footage of breach team saying the windows were not broken at 0850.

Las Vegas Shooting: Did the LVMPD Falsify Evidence in room 32-135? Did ABC, NBC, FOX all miss it ?










Hard to tell what really happened with all the spin...



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: pac522 on Jun 29, 2018, 12:23:42 pm
The Body of Paddock is fake, it's a dummy with a 1/2 head corpse/mannequin.  This is from LVMPD body cams.

Please go & start at the 13:29 minute mark of this video.











The guy in the Furry suit is his nephew, people think he may have help plan the entire thing.
The reasoning behind the furry suit is that its a Faraday cage.

You see Vegas was supposedly the dry run for BlueBeam type weapons.

Bump Stocks on ARs lmfao

There were Army trucks there, 18 wheelers, there were also MilSpec hardware, laptops with transmitter/receiver antennae. People think the concerts sound system was used, not only in pumping in gun fire but also with ELF and other low frequencies.


Here is my MegaLink to evidence collected by different people.

https://mega.nz/#F!tdJW1TaT!4VnvAuuiJxR1vQPb-WnYDw



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: pac522 on Jun 29, 2018, 12:24:48 pm
Sorry forgot to attach the image

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcfKWurVMAAV-aD.jpg)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: One Revelator on Jun 29, 2018, 01:08:45 pm
That's quite the gaggle of cops (if they are cops) casually standing around looking bewildered. A far cry from the initial report of some rag-tag heroic mini team.

There's been more than enough time to construct an entire movie set. And with unlimited print-and-spend government funding, or even Soros-style funding, I wouldn't put anything out of the realm of possibility.

The initial audio forensics and official press conference behavior told me all I need to know.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Jun 30, 2018, 10:25:32 am
The Body of Paddock is fake, it's a dummy with a 1/2 head corpse/mannequin.  This is from LVMPD body cams.

Please go & start at the 13:29 minute mark of this video.

Did you post the wrong video or am I missing something? I didn't see a body at all in that video or the ?Furry suit?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Jun 30, 2018, 11:47:17 am
Ah, found the body. Wow it does look like half his head is missing. This is just getting stranger and stranger. Watched it again after watching the video One Revelator posted. No broken windows! Wtf?!

I also found video with sound of that above posted video with Campos interacting with police. He says some thing like, "I don't know if it was a pellet or a .22." Lol what is that about? A pellet? Get the hell outta here.













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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Jul 01, 2018, 10:41:12 am
Sorry forgot to attach the image

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcfKWurVMAAV-aD.jpg)



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Hm, I finally saw the picture in this post on another computer. Is it me? Or will this not show up for some weird computer geek reason?

I can see it in the reply code and I'll check if it's in the quote in this post.

Either way, bump because all of this new stuff is pretty incredible.



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P.S. yea, still can't see it here. Anyway, you know it'd be pretty interesting to find out if there was some kind of furry convention or get together around the time of the shooting. Faraday cage or not, the guy in the picture obviously is into that stuff. One doesn't usually dress up like that if you're not into it lol



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 03, 2018, 01:24:28 pm
Mandalay Bay security manager’s statement to FBI and police not true

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/mandalay-bay-security-managers-statement-to-fbi-and-police-not-true/2018/07/02

An October 12, 2017, Mandalay Bay Hotel security manager’s tape-recorded interview conducted by Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Detective B. Hodson of the LVMPD Force Investigation Team and FBI Special Agent J. Mollica contains false statements.

The Baltimore Post-Examiner was the first media outlet to question LVMPD Officer Cordell Hendrex’s officer’s report and the security manager’s report because of conflicting accounts of who was on the 31st and 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel during the time Stephen Paddock was opening fire on the Route 91 Music Festival.

Hendrex stated in his report that he was on the 31st floor with his partner, Officer Elif Varsin, and three armed Mandalay Bay security managers during the time the gunfire was erupting from the 32nd floor.

The security manager told the FBI and the LVMPD detective that Hendrex was on the 32nd floor with him during the gunfire and that after the firing stopped, Hendrex and he maintained coverage on room 32-135 and that nobody exited the room.

On Wednesday with the release of police body worn camera footage from Hendrex and Varsin there is no doubt whatsoever that Hendrex was not on the 32nd floor.

What is disturbing about the security manager’s account is that according to the transcript of his recorded statement, he names Hendrex ten times as the police officer he was with prior to and during the time he was on the 32nd floor.


More at the link --->  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/mandalay-bay-security-managers-statement-to-fbi-and-police-not-true/2018/07/02 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/mandalay-bay-security-managers-statement-to-fbi-and-police-not-true/2018/07/02)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 03, 2018, 01:32:09 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Child porn charge against brother of Las Vegas gunman is THROWN OUT after his lawyer claims the case was 'prejudiced' because an LA deputy district attorney's daughter was killed in the mass shooting


https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5913471/Child-porn-charge-against-gunman-Stephen-Paddock-brother-THROWN-OUT.html


The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock has had his child pornography charge dismissed - after arguing that his case was 'tremendously prejudiced' by the massacre.

DailyMail.com can exclusively reveal that Bruce Paddock's felony charge for possession of child pornography was thrown out after a judge refused to allow the prosecution a last-minute trial adjournment to produce a witness in the case who was in El Salvador.

The witness, Hector Cruz, was deemed 'crucial to the case' as it was he who had discovered Paddock's alleged stash of child porn after evicting him from squatting on his property back in 2014.

As well as arguing the case was prejudiced by the massacre, Paddock's lawyer told Los Angeles Superior Court that the daughter of a deputy district attorney who worked in the court house was one of the 58 people killed by Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock on October 1 last year.

While the deputy district attorney is not named in legal documents obtained by DailyMail.com, the daughter of L.A. County Deputy District Attorney Michael Duarte was killed in the massacre.

Christina Duarte, 21, was a business marketing graduate of the University of Arizona and was in Las Vegas with her brother's girlfriend when she was killed.

In a court filing stating why Bruce Paddock's case should be dismissed, his lawyer Marisa Gallegos wrote: 'Mr. Paddock is prejudiced by the fact that he is the brother of Las Vegas Shooter, Stephen Paddock.

'This case was filed less than four weeks after the shooting, even though law information finished the investigation on this case in September 2014.

More at the link --->  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5913471/Child-porn-charge-against-gunman-Stephen-Paddock-brother-THROWN-OUT.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5913471/Child-porn-charge-against-gunman-Stephen-Paddock-brother-THROWN-OUT.html)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 16, 2018, 06:57:05 am
Las Vegas mass shooting victims’ attorney seeks lock interrogation reports and more

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-mass-shooting-victims-attorney-seeks-lock-interrogation-reports-and-more/2018/07/13

LAS VEGAS — The Baltimore Post Examiner was the first media outlet to describe the importance of the lock interrogation reports for Stephen Paddock’s rooms at the Mandalay Bay Resort Casino during his stay and specifically for October 1, 2017.

Those lock interrogation reports will confirm whether or not the deadbolts on rooms 32-134 and 32-135 that were engaged before Paddock opened fire on the Route 91 Music Festival as indicated in the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Departments Force Investigation Team’s Preliminary Investigative Report, were ever disengaged after the gunfire stopped.

If either one of those deadbolts disengaged prior to the police breaching the suite during that over one hour period after the last shots were fired, then it is possible that someone may have exited the rooms.

More at the link -->  http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-mass-shooting-victims-attorney-seeks-lock-interrogation-reports-and-more/2018/07/13 (http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-mass-shooting-victims-attorney-seeks-lock-interrogation-reports-and-more/2018/07/13)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas - MGM sues victims
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 17, 2018, 09:33:27 am
The empire strikes back.
_____________________________ ___________________________

Lawsuits claim MGM has no liability to Las Vegas shooting victims

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/lawsuits-claim-mgm-has-no-liability-to-las-vegas-shooting-victims/

MGM Resorts International has filed federal lawsuits against more than 1,000 Las Vegas mass shooting victims in an effort to avoid liability.

The company, which owns Mandalay Bay and the Route 91 Harvest festival venue, argues that it cannot be held liable for Oct. 1 deaths, injuries or other damages, adding that any claims against MGM parties “must be dismissed,” according to complaints filed Friday in Nevada and California.

“Plaintiffs have no liability of any kind to defendants,” the complaints argue.

The company cites a 2002 federal act that extends liability protection to any company that uses “anti-terrorism” technology or services that can “help prevent and respond to mass violence.”

In this case, the company argues, the security vendor MGM hired for Route 91, Contemporary Services Corp., was protected from liability because its services had been certified by the Department of Homeland Security for “protecting against and responding to acts of mass injury and destruction.”

The lawsuits argue that this protection also extends to MGM, since MGM hired the security company.


More at the link ---> https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/lawsuits-claim-mgm-has-no-liability-to-las-vegas-shooting-victims/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/lawsuits-claim-mgm-has-no-liability-to-las-vegas-shooting-victims/)



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 17, 2018, 10:00:20 am
Radio troubles hampered Las Vegas police on Oct. 1, RJ investigation finds

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/radio-troubles-hampered-las-vegas-police-on-oct-1-rj-investigation-finds/

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Officers experienced other communication lapses during the response. The Review-Journal’s nearly two-month examination revealed:

— At the height of gunfire, several officers were unable to broadcast updates on their overloaded radios, including at least two officers who tried to relay the gunman’s location.

— Within Mandalay Bay, where the gunman’s 32nd-floor suite was located, several responding officers at times were either unable to hear police radio updates or unable to transmit new information because of spotty radio coverage. Police say the problem has existed for years.

— Officers stationed at McCarran International Airport or on Strip pedestrian bridges found themselves at odds with airport and resort staff as they worked to shuffle citizens to safety.



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‘Eyes on the shooter’

On the night of the festival, Metro Detective Stephen Balonek was directing traffic just outside the venue, according to his report. When the shooting started, it took him a few seconds to realize what was happening. Then, he lunged into action.

“I ran back to my vehicle and retrieved my binoculars and began scanning the hotel for the shooter,” Balonek wrote in his report.

Approximately 1 minute into the shooting I observed a figure in a hotel room on the north side standing in a shooting platform and appeared to be 4-6 feet from the window. The figure was firing the rifle out of his hotel room. I attempted to get on the radio to update the channel and was unsuccessful.

Metro Detective Stephen Balonek

Quickly, Balonek switched radio channels to “Northeast,” which houses all police radio transmissions in Metro’s northeast valley patrol area, miles from the Strip. There, he was able to relay the shooter’s location.

More at the link -->  https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/radio-troubles-hampered-las-vegas-police-on-oct-1-rj-investigation-finds/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/radio-troubles-hampered-las-vegas-police-on-oct-1-rj-investigation-finds/)

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I am not sure "standing in a shooting platform" means.  If anyone has any theories please chime in.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 30, 2018, 09:07:23 am
While searching for any new articles,  I noticed youtube has scrubbed many videos that do not fit the official narrative from search results.  Most of videos that show up are from CNN, Fox News and other mainstream outlets.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas - Case Closed?
Post by: poseidonlost on Aug 03, 2018, 12:52:09 pm
While searching for any new articles,  I noticed youtube has scrubbed many videos that do not fit the official narrative from search results.  Most of videos that show up are from CNN, Fox News and other mainstream outlets.



Last Edit by Larry

What about the taxi driver video? Honestly, haven't checked.

Final police report on Las Vegas shooting unable to determine motive


By Katelyn Newberg Las Vegas Review-Journal August 3, 2018 - 8:32 am

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/final-police-report-on-las-vegas-shooting-unable-to-determine-motive/

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Updated August 3, 2018 - 9:35 am

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo on Friday released the Metropolitan Police Department’s final report on the Oct. 1 shooting on the Strip, saying investigators had not been able to determine gunman Stephen Paddock’s motive for carrying out the deadliest random shooting in modern U.S. history.

“We have not been able to definitively answer the ‘why,’” Lombardo said at a news briefing.

He also said the investigation indicates that Paddock acted alone, adding that he does not anticipate any arrests in connection with the case.

Lombardo also defended the performance of the communications system during the chaos of the shooting and its aftermath.

“There’s no system in the world that can handle that kind of volume in a short period of time,” he said of the radio issues that officers experienced. “I personally believe the communications system was sound and robust.”

Authorities have said that Paddock, 64, of Mesquite opened fire with high-powered rifles on concertgoers attending the Route 91 Harvest country music festival from his 32nd-floor room at the Mandalay Bay resort shortly after 10 p.m., killing 58 people and leaving hundreds more injured.

Paddock killed himself as officers closed in.

I really couldn't use enough foul language to get across how, ... UGH!  >:(



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas - Case Closed?
Post by: 2Revolutions on Aug 03, 2018, 06:39:51 pm
What about the taxi driver video? Honestly, haven't checked.

Final police report on Las Vegas shooting unable to determine motive


By Katelyn Newberg Las Vegas Review-Journal August 3, 2018 - 8:32 am

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/final-police-report-on-las-vegas-shooting-unable-to-determine-motive/

I really couldn't use enough foul language to get across how, ... UGH!  >:(



Last Edit by Palmerston

Copy of the Las Vegas police report

https://scribd.com/document/385387294/Oct-1-shooting-final-report-from-the-Las-Vegas-Metropolitan-Police-Department#from_embed


Taxi Driver video is still available under the Las Vegas Review-Journal channel.  No too many other sources of raw video that I could find.  Had to do a couple different keyword searches to find it.













Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Aug 03, 2018, 07:18:09 pm
Notice how once again a report is release on Friday.  Report is about 187 pages. Only 1 photo of Paddock body and it is not a close up. None of the pictures chosen for the report offer a lot of detail.

Based on the report (page 106) Paddock allegedly fired 14 rifles in 11 minutes.  1056 shells were recovered in the room.   A list of rifles he supposedly used is provided and number of rounds fired is in a chart of page 106.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas - Case Closed?
Post by: Ye Olde Powder Monkey on Aug 04, 2018, 03:39:38 am
Copy of the Las Vegas police report

https://scribd.com/document/385387294/Oct-1-shooting-final-report-from-the-Las-Vegas-Metropolitan-Police-Department#from_embed

Taxi Driver video is still available under the Las Vegas Review-Journal channel.  No too many other sources of raw video that I could find.  Had to do a couple different keyword searches to find it.













Last Edit by Palmerston

I got heavily into this, on the night of the event and in the subsequent days.

On twitter I did the timing breakdown between shot-outbreaks ... deleted account now. I may have the text somewhere. Intervals of like ... 15, 20, 45, 25, 15  seconds between each of the  separate bursts ... (just guessing here, I don't have the data in front of me).
Then I was probably the first on there to suggest it sounded like 'belt-fed'
— (what can I tell you, I've watched a lot WW2 Movies?).

And clearly there were two shooting locations. One just above, the taxi-driver position at start of video, and you can hear, if you turn up the volume, after the first round of weaker, distant shots, a bunch of SHOUTING.

My initial suggestion was that this was THE SWAT TEAM (or other) breaking into PADDOCK's chamber/room and disarming "On the floor, get down now". That kind of stuff, it sounds reminiscent of.

Then comes the localised LOUD shooting above the taxi driver's position as she moves off.
The sound gets enhanced by the walls around there. The BUMP STOCK issue was brought in at the outset, as if it was the main issue. My interpretation was not that.
I used the LAS VEGAS gun-show video, produced about the same time, to track down a typical BELT-FED gun, which had the approximate same timing as that heard.

Of course. The two shooter positions was completely verified by Natural News' acoustic breakdown ..done by Mike Adams' workshop ... and the Police did admit that a 2nd Shooter had been active in probably trying to ignite the FUEL TANKS a way off THE STRIP. That attempt failed as they were using too low calibre bullets on tanks which had design-in protection for such an event. Yes!

Falsified, photo-shopped images weeks later appeared on Google Images accompanying claims of multiple shooter locations from around the building. That was the disinfo crowd and was never regarded as credible.

I stick with what I initially said, and I'm no gunsmith. I just felt it shouted out at me.
The Taxi-driver position Gun was BELT-FED.
And that started up, (as did all the shooting break-outs, at precise multiples of 5-seconds time) after the shouting and more distant shots ... which led me to conclude the worst. Since then of course, LAURA LOOMER'S work focused on the TIMELINE which kept being altered to accommodate the anomalies.

THIS IS NOT OVER?
Remember this was slap-bang around the date of the Centennial Anniversary of the outbreak of the BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION of 1917. Of course it's over! It's 2018 now! Move on, act like you're superior.

The DOMINANT CULTURE WORLDWIDE is STILL, SOCIALISM, the model of political paradigm is still tempting people to be in on the 'perceived winning-side', whichever side that is ...

63, (was it?) innocent concert goers died in a hail of bullets from at least two locations. OH YEAH. Another thing I did.

I got the LIVE FEED from the LVPD radio. I hope I have this stuff somewhere.
In it the POLICE CONTROL are receiving URGENT panicked reports from THE STADIUM by officers of
"Shots INCOMING from GATE 7". (or was it 8?)
AND A guy in CHAMO gear retreating with a black bag into A TRAILER.
— He was supposedly intercepted.

THEN THE POLICE audio live-stream reports a wagon, black-tainted windows, racing away .... but on reflection ...
black tinted windows on THE STRIP, is probably 'the mode', or the trend. You know ...

I must have recorded and SAVED this ... there's no way I let it go. I'll track it down.

I believe it was a BOLSHEVIK renaissance killing.
And they talk about the 2nd Amendment and Conservatives issues with guns ...

Las Vegas is VERY CLOSE to AREA 51, Whitesands, The Dry-Salt Lake secret base, NM ....
I ALONE, also realised.

So this IS NOT OVER. Not really.
AND it was demoralizing, I suppose for a lot of people to have it all brushed off, so conveniently.
CASE CLOSED !!!
We think we're cool with it, (I'm 5000 miles away~), when really we're not.

BECAUSE folk like to ignore me, disregard what I say, as too clever, too smart, to intuitive, ...be WITH THE IN-CROWD,  it's a problem for me and possibly, maybe, even for localising the forensic facts.

The SHOUTING ... never dealt with
The BELT-FED gun ... polished over
The Timing ... was it machine controlled ... totally disregarded
And on and on ...

I wonder if there's a price to pay for that complicity!>? Of course I think there is!



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: One Revelator on Aug 04, 2018, 08:22:05 am
Witness reports of shots fired/bodies located inside casinos.

Video of semi-auto shots coming from gate 7 vicinity prior to full-auto opening salvo.

Cell phones confiscated and wiped by the FBI.

Saudis recently completing joint military exercises in the area and housing their military in the casinos.

Saudi Arabia taking action against its own princes shortly after.

Lombardo himself saying there's no way only one shooter.

Witnesses dying under mysterious circumstances weeks after the event.

This was definitely a military or paramilitary op. It's the corrupt FBI's job to cover these things up and create a plausable narrative. Sad.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas - Case Closed?
Post by: 2Revolutions on Aug 04, 2018, 10:49:13 am
I got heavily into this, on the night of the event and in the subsequent days.

On twitter I did the timing breakdown between shot-outbreaks ... deleted account now. I may have the text somewhere. Intervals of like ... 15, 20, 45, 25, 15  seconds between each of the  separate bursts ... (just guessing here, I don't have the data in front of me).
Then I was probably the first on there to suggest it sounded like 'belt-fed'
— (what can I tell you, I've watched a lot WW2 Movies?).

And clearly there were two shooting locations. One just above, the taxi-driver position at start of video, and you can hear, if you turn up the volume, after the first round of weaker, distant shots, a bunch of SHOUTING.

My initial suggestion was that this was THE SWAT TEAM (or other) breaking into PADDOCK's chamber/room and disarming "On the floor, get down now". That kind of stuff, it sounds reminiscent of.

Then comes the localised LOUD shooting above the taxi driver's position as she moves off.
The sound gets enhanced by the walls around there. The BUMP STOCK issue was brought in at the outset, as if it was the main issue. My interpretation was not that.
I used the LAS VEGAS gun-show video, produced about the same time, to track down a typical BELT-FED gun, which had the approximate same timing as that heard.

Of course. The two shooter positions was completely verified by Natural News' acoustic breakdown ..done by Mike Adams' workshop ... and the Police did admit that a 2nd Shooter had been active in probably trying to ignite the FUEL TANKS a way off THE STRIP. That attempt failed as they were using too low calibre bullets on tanks which had design-in protection for such an event. Yes!

Falsified, photo-shopped images weeks later appeared on Google Images accompanying claims of multiple shooter locations from around the building. That was the disinfo crowd and was never regarded as credible.

I stick with what I initially said, and I'm no gunsmith. I just felt it shouted out at me.
The Taxi-driver position Gun was BELT-FED.
And that started up, (as did all the shooting break-outs, at precise multiples of 5-seconds time) after the shouting and more distant shots ... which led me to conclude the worst. Since then of course, LAURA LOOMER'S work focused on the TIMELINE which kept being altered to accommodate the anomalies.

THIS IS NOT OVER?
Remember this was slap-bang around the date of the Centennial Anniversary of the outbreak of the BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION of 1917. Of course it's over! It's 2018 now! Move on, act like you're superior.

The DOMINANT CULTURE WORLDWIDE is STILL, SOCIALISM, the model of political paradigm is still tempting people to be in on the 'perceived winning-side', whichever side that is ...

63, (was it?) innocent concert goers died in a hail of bullets from at least two locations. OH YEAH. Another thing I did.

I got the LIVE FEED from the LVPD radio. I hope I have this stuff somewhere.
In it the POLICE CONTROL are receiving URGENT panicked reports from THE STADIUM by officers of
"Shots INCOMING from GATE 7". (or was it 8?)
AND A guy in CHAMO gear retreating with a black bag into A TRAILER.
— He was supposedly intercepted.

THEN THE POLICE audio live-stream reports a wagon, black-tainted windows, racing away .... but on reflection ...
black tinted windows on THE STRIP, is probably 'the mode', or the trend. You know ...

I must have recorded and SAVED this ... there's no way I let it go. I'll track it down.

I believe it was a BOLSHEVIK renaissance killing.
And they talk about the 2nd Amendment and Conservatives issues with guns ...

Las Vegas is VERY CLOSE to AREA 51, Whitesands, The Dry-Salt Lake secret base, NM ....
I ALONE, also realised.

So this IS NOT OVER. Not really.
AND it was demoralizing, I suppose for a lot of people to have it all brushed off, so conveniently.
CASE CLOSED !!!
We think we're cool with it, (I'm 5000 miles away~), when really we're not.

BECAUSE folk like to ignore me, disregard what I say, as too clever, too smart, to intuitive, ...be WITH THE IN-CROWD,  it's a problem for me and possibly, maybe, even for localising the forensic facts.

The SHOUTING ... never dealt with
The BELT-FED gun ... polished over
The Timing ... was it machine controlled ... totally disregarded
And on and on ...

I wonder if there's a price to pay for that complicity!>? Of course I think there is!



Last Edit by Palmerston

Thanks for sharing your comments and please continue to do so.  Although this false flas is not on the scale of 911, this is a major event that took months/years of planning.  So more  perspectives and analysis of this event is needed.   More gun control laws have been proposed and passed in these recent months in the US as gun owners have grown complicit since Obama no longer occupies the puppet seat.

Just before Las Vegas massacre there was likely to be a Congressional vote or change in regulations on making it easier for regular people to acquire silencers/suppressors in the US.   This evil operation followed by the media's usual distorted deceptonal coverage of these type of events ensured that public opinion was temporarily swayed against the elimination of any parts of the National Firearm Act of 1934.  In addition, many states and likely the ATF have/willed used this Satanic massacre to ban any new firearm technology like bump stocks and new trigger system because that technology is accessible to the regular people.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Aug 04, 2018, 01:08:58 pm
What horrifies me is how differently this event has been handled by the alternative media.

For a start, prior to the Trump Era, the community would not have lost interest so quickly. They would have looked for possible Whitehouse connections from day one. That Trump is in the cassino biz and that it happened in cassino central would not have escaped the community. Then therd is the most blatent human sacrifice under The Black Pyramid... well all of that combined would have sent the community into a frenzy that would not have fizzled out a couple of weeks latter.

Has anyone given any thought what happens after Trump when its going to be a democrat in the Whitehouse ?

In such a future, all the bullshit excuses will be available to the democrat president and then they will be able to safely pull off a stunt as big or bigger than 911 with immunity.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: One Revelator on Aug 04, 2018, 01:43:19 pm
Has anyone given any thought what happens after Trump when its going to be a democrat in the Whitehouse ?

The hidden, unelected permagov will still be in charge creating/managing their reality unless that can be changed in the interim.



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: poseidonlost on Aug 04, 2018, 03:02:34 pm
The hidden, unelected permagov will still be in charge creating/managing their reality unless that can be changed in the interim.



Last Edit by Palmerston

There is no chance of change with people STILL waiting for Trump to save America. Game's over y'all. Unless you wake the hell up and stop all of this Trump worship.

You're right EG, the people who would've been screaming their heads off if this happened under Obama, seem to not give one crapolla about Las Vegas. The worst mass murder in American history. With military grade weaponry. Y'all are setting yourselves up for the slaughter, by believing Jones, Trump, Q, the new version of "Hope" used for the Obama nerds, aimed at YOU. ???



Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: JTCoyoté on Aug 05, 2018, 01:22:28 am
The hidden, unelected permagov will still be in charge creating/managing their reality unless that can be changed in the interim.



Last Edit by Palmerston

This is precisely what Trump is working to dismantle, much easier now because thanks to Jones
and others most are at least conscious of the problem and many are vocal about it. When the
Kennedy brothers went after the "cabal" they didn't have 1/100th of the support today... yet,
even today there are still lots of popcorn eating fence sitters, many in apathy, while others prattle
on and wait in subterfuge...

JTCoyoté

" ...the constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the
principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions,
that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts,
as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument."

~Justice John Marshall, Marbury v Madison, 1803




Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Equal Opportunities Customer. on Aug 05, 2018, 03:05:26 pm
When the Kennedy brothers went after the "cabal" they didn't have 1/100th of the support today... yet,
even today there are still lots of popcorn eating fence sitters, many in apathy, while others prattle
on and wait in subterfuge...

JTCoyoté

" ...the constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the
principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions,
that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts,
as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument."

~Justice John Marshall, Marbury v Madison, 1803




Last Edit by Palmerston

Prattler Fasnacht
https://holzsammeln.ch/index.php?mact=Gallery,m97a2c,default,1&m97a2cdir=Fasnacht/Prattler-Fasnacht&m97a2creturnid=137&page=137

Which brings back fond memories of my own prattling days ...
(http://www.holzsammeln.ch/uploads/images/Gallery/Fasnacht/Prattler-Fasnacht/_DSC1431.jpg)




Last Edit by Humphrey
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Aug 31, 2018, 06:17:54 am
FEMA Report on Las Vegas Shooting

https://scribd.com/document/387183107/FEMA-1-October-After-Action-Report#from_embed

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FEMA releases after-action report on Las Vegas shooting

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/fema-releases-after-action-report-on-las-vegas-shooting/

Quote
Las Vegas police and Clark County firefighters experienced numerous communication problems and failed to follow some protocols on the night of the Oct. 1 mass shooting, according to a federal report released Monday.

But the 61-page report also described the response to the attack — which left 58 concertgoers dead and more than 800 people injured — as “efficient” and “coordinated,” crediting the counter-terrorism training of Las Vegas police.




Quote
Among the report’s findings:

— The Clark County Fire Department was not aware that the Route 91 Harvest festival was occurring.

Firefighters were not working the festival, which saw about 22,000 attendees. Instead, a private ambulance company staffed the event’s medical tent.
“Dispatchers and first responders should be made aware of large or high-profile events occurring in their jurisdiction to enhance their agency’s readiness posture for a potential incident.”

— The festival medical tent was not prepared to handle a mass casualty event.
The tent only had seven cots.
“Personnel were quickly overwhelmed, as trauma equipment was exhausted within minutes of treating initial patients.”

— Security at the medical tent was lacking.
“In one case, an off-duty first responder from an outside, non-local jurisdiction assaulted a medical provider in the tent because he disagreed with the medical provider’s treatment decision.” Police had to restrain him.

— Many concertgoers volunteered to treat the wounded.

The report recommended supporting local “Stop the Bleed” programs to teach more people about how they can help in the event of a mass casualty event.

It also noted that a handful of off-duty officers from other jurisdictions and active military personnel tried to take command of the response or seize responding officers’ weapons.

“While well intentioned, these individuals at times hindered the response.”

— No policy exists to guide police dispatchers during a mass casualty incident.

“Nonetheless, dispatchers made real-time decisions to support communications operations during the incident response.”

— “Self-dispatching” created staffing challenges.

When reports of the shooting spread via news reports and cellphones and scanner traffic, many off-duty officers and firefighters descended on the scene.

“This self-reporting created a staffing challenge for the next operational shift, as the intention was for some of these personnel to relieve others the following morning.”

The self-dispatching also made it difficult for dispatchers and commanders “to maintain personnel accountability.”
Communication challenges

The report outlined several communication issues, including inadequate police radio reception in Mandalay Bay and a lack of an established mutual aid channel, which would have allowed firefighters and responding officers to communicate with each other directly.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Aug 31, 2018, 06:26:34 am
Police release 27 new videos from Las Vegas shooting

https://reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/police-release-27-new-videos-from-las-vegas-shooting/

Las Vegas police released records on Wednesday that clearly captured the sound of a SWAT officer accidentally firing his rifle inside the Route 91 Harvest festival gunman’s Mandalay Bay suite on Oct. 1.

Officer Sean O’Donnell was trying to adjust his weapon’s rate of fire when the three-round burst went off, police have said. It happened just after a team of officers breached the gunman’s second room.

The body camera video, which was filmed by another officer a few doors down from the gunman’s suite, was one of 27 clips turned over this week.

It marked the 17th court-ordered release since early May of Metropolitan Police Department audio, video or documents from the mass shooting, which left 58 concertgoers dead and hundreds more injured. The new footage varied from between 15 seconds to about 30 minutes in length.

The clip in question begins as a group of officers work to clear several guest rooms on the 32nd floor. The first room they enter is empty, but the bathtub faucet has been left on. The tub
nearly overflows before an officer shuts the water off, and the room falls silent.

Radio traffic then indicates that the gunman was found dead in his suite down the hall.

Officers continue to clear rooms, evacuating a guest before they are warned to cover their ears. Seconds later, the breach and three-round burst can be heard.
Emotions running high

All the body camera videos released Wednesday were filmed sometime after the mass shooting ended. But emotions were still running high.

In one clip, as a group of officers walk toward false reports of shots fired inside New York-New York, one man tries to hype the others up.

“Hey, listen up!” he shouts. “Every cop in America wants to be right here right now! We’re the lucky ones!”

In another clip, filmed long after the attack ended, a group of officers stationed at T-Mobile Arena huddle and watch an Instagram video of what appears to show part of the shooting. Gunfire and screaming can be heard in the background.

“They’re just firing down on Route 91, bro,” an officer says. “They just fired down in the crowd.”

More at the link -->  https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/police-release-27-new-videos-from-las-vegas-shooting/ (https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/police-release-27-new-videos-from-las-vegas-shooting/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Sep 26, 2018, 08:11:11 pm
Federal court dismisses lawsuit against bump stock maker Slide Fire

https://guns.com/2018/09/20/federal-court-dismisses-lawsuit-against-bump-stock-maker-slide-fire/

A federal judge this week threw out a class action lawsuit filed by survivors of the Route 91 Harvest shooting against a company whose product was used by the killer.

Chief Judge Gloria M. Navarro on Monday found that the plaintiffs in the case failed to demonstrate how the Texas-based Slide Fire Solutions was liable for the deaths of 58 people and injuries of some 850 others.

“Unlike cable gun locks, sights, and compensators—without which a rifle is fully functional—a rifle cannot operate as a rifle without a stock,” said Navarro in her ruling before going on to note as significant that, “bump stocks replace existing stocks rendering them component parts, even if they are after-market enhancements.”

Slide Fire, a federal firearms license holder, sought to toss out the case in part with an argument that the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, which insulates the gun industry from lawsuits based on the actions of third parties with their product, applied to their stocks. With that, the court took up the question of if a bump stock was a “qualified product” under PLCAA.  To qualify, it had to be an integral component part that the firearm could not function without — which would be protected — rather than a mere firearm accessory, which would not.

More at the link --->  https://www.guns.com/2018/09/20/federal-court-dismisses-lawsuit-against-bump-stock-maker-slide-fire/ (https://www.guns.com/2018/09/20/federal-court-dismisses-lawsuit-against-bump-stock-maker-slide-fire/)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Sep 28, 2018, 06:14:05 pm

Las Vegas police report indicates Paddock was in two places at the same time

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las-vegas-police-report-indicates-paddock-was-in-two-places-at-the-same-time/2018/09/25


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Both the preliminary and final investigative reports state that Paddock gambled continuously in the Mandalay Bay casino from 10:18 PM on the night of September 28 thru 5:43 AM on September 29.  Again, both reports state continuously.

The lock interrogation report for Paddock’s suite, 32-135, indicates that at 10:02 PM on the night of September 28 the room door opened from the inside and then closed.  Paddock probably left his room at this time and went to the casino to gamble which the police report states was at 10:18 PM.

The report states Paddock stopped gambling at 5:43 AM on September 29.  The lock interrogation report indicates that his guest key accessed room 32-135 at 5:47 AM and the deadbolt was then engaged.  We can assume he went to his room at this time.

Here is where we have a major discrepancy with what the police documented in both reports.  While Paddock was gambling continuously in the casino, those are the words of the police, not mine, his room key accessed 32-135.

The lock interrogation report for 32-135 indicates the following:

9/29/2017 12:43 AM – Guest card accepted. The door is opened.  The door is closed.  Dead bolt thrown.
9/29/2017 12:57 AM – The door is opened from the inside.  Dead bolt released.
9/29/2017 12:58 AM – The door is closed.  The door is opened from the inside. The door is closed.
9/29/2017 1:30 AM – The door is opened from the inside. The door is closed.
9/29/2017 2:35 AM – The door is opened from the inside.  The door is closed.

Based on the lock interrogation report I would have to ask how Paddock could have been in the casino gambling continuously and at the same time be accessing his room during a one-hour-and forty-five-minute period from 12:43 AM to 2:35 AM.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Phoenix Rising on Oct 02, 2018, 08:28:16 am
Again, I keep beating this dead horse.,..

As was supported by quick investigation within the first 3 days of the LA event...

There was a government agent who did the dirty work
working under the name "Stephen Paddock".
This was supported by evidence from 2 women investigative reporters.
They published the evidence on the net before the government could delete it.

A patsy by the name of Stephen Paddock was set up and blamed as the actor in this event;
his was the body that was found in the hotel room.
Or was it ?
Smash a face thoroughly and attach a name...could actually be anyone.

How many times have I called this story to your attention, all you GlobalGulag readers?
3?
4?

Go back and read my little postings from 2 or 3 days after the event itself to read the evidence discovered by the female investigative reporters.

And I think it's time we admit to ourselves that some government agencies have done their work rather well
and we admit that it's very unlikely that we will discover a clearer explanation than this.

"Revolutions,
i know you have been working very hard following this story,
like a tiger who won't let go of its meal.
Commendable.

Soon there will be another dirty trick that will need investigation.

Folks, I think we have discovered all we can.
And no, I do not work for any of the alphabet groups.
I just think that the explanation which I have given above is sufficient.
Appalling, yet sufficient.



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Mar 04, 2019, 09:23:09 am
Leaving this hear for documentation purposes.  FBI still has not released any important information.

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KEY FINDINGS OF THE BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS UNIT’S LAS VEGAS REVIEW PANEL (LVRP)

https://baltimorepostexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/FBI-Summary-Report.pdf



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 05, 2019, 07:03:24 pm
The lawyer for family is the same lawyer who is suing Bushmaster for the Sandy Hook shooting in Connecticut claiming the gun manufacturers negligently marketed AR-15s to US citizens.  It will be interesting to see how the ATF redefining the definition of machine gun to ban bump stocks will play a factor in this lawsuit.

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Family of Las Vegas mass shooting victim sues gun makers

https://msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-of-las-vegas-mass-shooting-victim-sues-gun-makers/ar-AADMAx8


The family of a woman killed by a gunman raining down gunfire from a Las Vegas high-rise hotel suite filed a wrongful death lawsuit Tuesday against eight gun makers and three dealers arguing their weapons are designed in a way that could be easily modified to fire like automatic weapons.

The lawsuit, which targets Colt and seven other gun manufacturers, along with gun shops in Nevada and Utah, is the latest case to challenge a federal law shielding gun manufacturers from liability. It charges that gun makers marketed the ability of the AR-15-style weapons to be easily modified to mimic machine guns and fire continuously, violating both a state and federal ban on automatic weapons.

The family of 31-year-old Carrie Parsons, of Seattle, argue in the lawsuit that the firearms are "thinly disguised" machine guns that the manufacturers knew could be easily modified, even without the use of a "bump stock," an attachment used by the Las Vegas gunman that allowed him to fire in rapid succession, killing 58 people and injuring more than 800 others in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. The Trump administration banned bump stocks this year, making it illegal to possess them under the same federal laws that prohibit machine guns.

The lawsuit charges the manufacturers showed a "reckless lack of regard for public safety" by advertising the firearms "as military weapons and signaling the weapon's ability to be simply modified." The lawsuit alleges there are dozens of videos online showing people how to install bump stocks on their AR-15 style rifles.

More at the link -->  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-of-las-vegas-mass-shooting-victim-sues-gun-makers/ar-AADMAx8 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/family-of-las-vegas-mass-shooting-victim-sues-gun-makers/ar-AADMAx8)



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: tahoeblue on Oct 01, 2019, 12:38:07 pm
Anny ... yeah ...  China commy anny too hmmm ....

https://banned.video/watch?id=5d92570016398a001393d95c
What Happens In Vegas Stays In Vegas

Uploaded on September 30, 2019
38,063 views



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Equal Opportunities Customer. on Oct 01, 2019, 04:27:32 pm
" ...... Black Helicopters .....!"



(https://i2-prod.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/article14798632.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/SUS-incident.jpg)


There are black helicopters, but we generally don’t deploy them …
... We deploy them against bin Laden but we generally don’t deploy them on U.S. soil.”
Pres. Obama. Speaking on Marc Morano show, 2015.

http://phasezero.gawker.com/obama-admits-there-are-black-helicopters-1713038795 (http://phasezero.gawker.com/obama-admits-there-are-black-helicopters-1713038795)


https://military.id.me/aircraft/existence-of-black-helicopters-confirmed-by-obama/ (https://military.id.me/aircraft/existence-of-black-helicopters-confirmed-by-obama/)


World class head-coping. Try avoiding the drugs though; they don't work; remember!?



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: tahoeblue on Oct 02, 2019, 10:38:18 am
Oh the "banned" video ... the premise there is a failed Saudi coup gone bad ...
I think that's total BS ... the perp was a patsy of some kind ... and murdering 50 people and injuring hundreds creating terror seems the point .
Seems more like Op Gladio   ...

Oh and over a thousand rounds in less then ten minutes by one idiot ? Not one autopsy released to the public Please ... geez ...


http://www.truthmove.org/content/operation-gladio/
Gladio and its “stay-behind” networks may be one of the most historically “accepted” or “confirmed” examples of false-flag terrorism.

The main function of the Gladio-style groups, in the absence of Soviet invasion, seems to have been to discredit left-wing groups and politicians through the use of “the strategy of tension,” including false-flag terrorism.

Truth movers should take advantage of Gladio and the stay-behind networks as a confirmed precedent of the US and western governments participating in ruthless terrorist attacks against their own people in order instill fear, control the population, and frame left-wing political opponents. People who believe that such things do not or cannot happen should be forcefully made aware of such examples as Operation Gladio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
Operation Gladio is the codename for clandestine "stay-behind" operations of armed resistance that was planned by the Western Union (WU), and subsequently by NATO, for a potential Warsaw Pact invasion and conquest in Europe
...

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/las-vegas-shooting-motive-still-unknown
Las Vegas shooting motive remains elusive as officials, survivors gather to mark 2-year anniversary

... the Mandalay Bay resort on Oct. 1, 2017, killing 58 and wounding hundreds more.
...
In the days before Paddock fired more than 1,000 rounds with assault-style rifles into a country music festival, video footage showed him wheeling bag after bag into his hotel suite while security guards helped him.



Anny ... yeah ...  China commy anny too hmmm ....
https://banned.video/watch?id=5d92570016398a001393d95c
What Happens In Vegas Stays In Vegas
Uploaded on September 30, 2019



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Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: Equal Opportunities Customer. on Oct 12, 2019, 04:18:55 pm
Both still available, of course.

10/1/2017 - Las Vegas NV Mandalay Bay Mass Shooting Police Response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=64&v=RQE5vifBGlM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=64&v=RQE5vifBGlM)

Taxi-Driver Video. Original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hXJhnNRu1E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hXJhnNRu1E)



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Title: Smartphone Videos Can Now Be Analyzed to find Active Shooter
Post by: 2Revolutions on Dec 10, 2019, 02:01:43 pm
Smartphone Videos Can Now Be Analyzed and Used to Pinpoint the Location of a Shooter

https://gizmodo.com/smartphone-videos-can-now-be-analyzed-and-used-to-pinpo-1839979803 (https://gizmodo.com/smartphone-videos-can-now-be-analyzed-and-used-to-pinpo-1839979803)

Complex arrays of microphones are often used by law enforcement and the military to help quickly pinpoint where the sound of gunfire originates. But researchers at Carnegie Mellon University have found that videos captured by smartphones can be just as useful for determining the location of a shooter.

The Video Event Reconstruction and Analysis system—or VERA, for short—was developed at CMU’s Language Technologies Institute with the cooperation of SITU Research who shared its expertise on ballistics and architecture, and the tool was released last month as free-to-use open-source code at the Association for Computing Machinery’s International Conference on Multimedia in Nice, France.

Using machine learning, VERA first synchronizes footage from multiple videos shot on smartphones in and around an event where a shooting occurs. The more footage collected the more accurate the results will be, but the researchers found the system even performed well when using footage from just three devices. Once synchronized, VERA calculates the position of where each video was filmed based on landmarks and other notable features in the actual footage.

The system then processes the audio from each clip, specifically identifying two distinct sounds: the crack of the shock wave created by the supersonic bullet in flight, and the sound of the blast emanating from the weapon’s muzzle. The time delay between the two parameters provides a crucial clue, but the sounds also help reveal the type of gun used, which in turn helps determine the speed of the bullet. By processing all of that information, VERA is then able to determine the location of the shooter with a surprising level of accuracy.

More at the link ---->  https://gizmodo.com/smartphone-videos-can-now-be-analyzed-and-used-to-pinpo-1839979803 (https://gizmodo.com/smartphone-videos-can-now-be-analyzed-and-used-to-pinpo-1839979803)
Title: Re: Las Vegas
Post by: tahoeblue on Oct 04, 2020, 09:59:01 pm
nice coverage by Rense on the anny ...

https://nypost.com/2020/09/30/las-vegas-shooting-victims-set-to-receive-combined-800m-settlement/
Las Vegas shooting victims set to receive combined $800M settlement
By Priscilla DeGregory
September 30, 2020

More than 4,400 relatives and victims of the deadly Las Vegas concert massacre are set to receive $800 million in payouts from MGM Resorts International and its insurer after a judge Wednesday approved the massive settlement deal.

The judge’s decision comes just before the third anniversary of the Oct. 1, 2017 shooting in which 58 people were killed and another 850 were injured when gunman Stephen Paddock opened fire, using military-style weapons, into a concert crowd that had some 22,000 attendees.

In approving the settlement deal, Clark County District Court Judge Linda Bell noted there was “near-unanimous participation in the settlement among potential claimants.”

MGM Resorts did not admit any liability in the agreement — which settles dozen of victim lawsuits. The hotel chain and its insurance companies are splitting the payout cost — $49 million and $751 million respectively.

Plaintiff lawyer Robert Eglet said he believes that victims could begin receiving payments by the end of the year, and once all the money has been dispersed, it will closeout the case.
...


https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/las-vegas-marks-3rd-year-deadliest-us-mass-73367918
Las Vegas is marking the third anniversary of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history
By KEN RITTER Associated Press
October 1, 2020, 10:32 PM
• 4 min read

LAS VEGAS -- The sun rose Thursday over a somber ceremony marking the third anniversary of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, as Las Vegas remembered the excruciating night when 58 people were killed at an outdoor country music festival in 2017.

“Three years ago today, a heinous act of violence rained down on our city, our county and our state,” Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak told a modest gathering at an open-air amphitheater at the Clark County Government Center. His voice cracked with emotion behind his coronavirus face mask as he recalled “everyone involved that helped us get through those tragic times.”

“Victim families will forever be in our hearts from 1 October,” he said, “and we will never, never forget what happened that day or the lives that were lost and the lives that were changed.”

The ceremony drew perhaps 200 survivors, friends and elected officials. Plans to host no more than 50 people expanded on Tuesday to allow up to 250 when the governor, a Democrat, relaxed some statewide COVID-19 pandemic crowd restrictions.
....
Authorities said more than 850 people were injured in the attack by a lone shooter firing from upper-floor windows of the Mandalay Bay resort into an outdoor crowd of 22,000 attending the Route 91 Harvest Festival. Police later said 413 of the injured suffered bullet or shrapnel wounds, others were injured fleeing the concert venue.

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo announced Thursday he was raising the department's death toll from the shooting to 60. He drew local criticism in recent weeks for refusing to increase the number despite coroners’ rulings that two women died during the past year of wounds received three years ago.
...
Authorities said gunfire lasted less than 10 minutes and the shooter, Stephen Paddock, killed himself with a handgun before police blasted through doors that had been bracketed shut at his suite on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay.

Paddock, 64, a former accountant and high-stakes video poker player, had assembled a cache of assault-style weapons fitted with rapid-fire “bump stock” devices and high-capacity magazines.



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