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Taxation / Re: Trump impose sanctions on China
« Last post by tahoeblue on Today at 11:27:52 am »
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-23/appalling-kowtow-beijing-hong-kong-workers-fired-supporting-protests
'This Is An Appalling Kowtow To Beijing' - Hong Kong Workers Fired For Supporting Protests
08/23/2019
They're calling it the "white terror".

Employees at Hong Kong-based companies, most notably the airline Cathay Pacific, are being fired or otherwise dismissed for supporting the anti-extradition bill (now pro-democracy) protests.
...


"Now the best way is to keep silent, because people could back-stab you for no obvious benefits," said one individual who said he was reported to management. Reuters found one case where an individual received a call from Chinese authorities after posting pro-protest comments on Facebook.

One Hong Kong-based executive compared the current atmosphere to "the Cultural Revolution."

"It feels like we’re back to the era of Cultural Revolution," said the executive of a large corporate, referring to the decade-long campaign unleashed by Mao Zedong on China in 1966, which encouraged people to inform on friends, colleagues and family members who did not follow the Communist Party line.

One pro-Beijing lawmaker in HK said in Hong Kong, politics and business are inseparable.

"The Cathay incident shows that when doing business in Hong Kong, politics and business are inseparable...it’s quite an alarming message," said a senior pro-Beijing politician.



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Bill Gates Refuses to Explain Why He Flew on “Lolita Express” With Jeffrey Epstein in 2013






'Former Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates may not be able to escape Epstein-gate after all, after it was revealed last week that the billionaire traveled with Jeffrey Epstein on his infamous ‘Lolita Express’ Boeing 727 in 2013 – four years after Epstein served time for pedophilia.

According to the Daily Mail, “Flight records reveal that Gates flew with Epstein from Teterboro Airport in New Jersey to Palm Beach on March 1, 2013, one of the few flights that year where pilot Larry Viskoski recorded the name of a passenger.”

If you’ve ever asked yourself “Would Bill Gates fly on a convicted pedophile’s private plane?” the answer is a resounding yes.

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The pairing is an odd one given the work Melinda Gates and the couple’s foundation does for young women around the world.

And it is known that the two had spent time together previously, most notably at the annual Edge Dinner, which each year welcomes billionaires from around the world to come together and discuss advancements they are working in on the worlds of math, science and technology. –Daily Mail


What’s more, Gates’ former science adviser Boris Nikolic, a 49-year-old venture capitalist, was named as a backup executor of Epstein’s will – something he says he was “shocked” to learn.

“I was not consulted in these matters and I have no intent to fulfill these duties, whatsoever,” Nikolic told Bloomberg.

At one point Epstein claimed to be a financial adviser to Gates, however a representative for the billionaire has denied it.

In addition to Gates – other famous figures who flew aboard the Lolita Express include legendary newsman Walter Cronkite, architect Peter Marino, and of course Bill Clinton, Naomi Campbell, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Prince Andrew.'

Read more: Bill Gates Refuses to Explain Why He Flew on “Lolita Express” With Jeffrey Epstein in 2013


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Never was a Koch Bros. fan.  However, I do not like to speak ill of the dead.



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EG, maybe this post of Al-CIA-da can on History( Intelligence Agencies, Secret service, Secret police etc. ) ?

Good idea.

I also fixed the links by editing it all by hand.


http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=4297.0



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History / Whatever the CIA's been up to in Afghanistan it's nothing good
« Last post by EvadingGrid on Aug 23, 2019, 11:45:27 pm »


Whatever the CIA's been up to in Afghanistan it's nothing good






'The US and the Taliban, we are led to believe, are close to agreeing a deal that would see the withdrawal of all US and NATO forces from Afghanistan. The question is though, will it?

First some context, beginning with the fact that the tortured history of this landlocked country, whose geographic location as a land bridge between Central Asia and the Middle East, and in modern times also as a potentially vital energy bridge, entitles the Afghan people to believe that they are uniquely cursed.



The inordinate price they have been forced to pay since the US-backed Mujahadeen overran the country in the early nineties, all the way up to now at the end of 18 years of US/NATO attacks, occupation, and the propping up of a series of corrupt governments in Kabul, should be inscribed on the gravestone of what has passed for foreign policy in the West since the Soviet Union departed the scene.



As it did in Yugoslavia, as it did in Iraq, and as it did in Libya, Western intervention in Afghanistan only succeeded in making a bad situation many times worse. It has exacerbated religious, tribal and communal tensions instead of alleviating them.

Though, given the above, any peace deal that will hasten the departure of US and NATO forces from Afghanistan is to be welcomed, the devil as ever is in the detail.



And the devil in this particular instance is the CIA. Before we come on to that and them, though, let us first consider the terms of the draft agreement, arrived at after eight rounds of talks over two weeks in the Qatari capital of Doha (though at the time of writing yet to be ratified by President Trump).



They require that in return for the complete withdrawal of US and NATO forces the Taliban will not allow the territory under its control,predominantly but not exclusively in the south of the country, to be used as a base and launchpad for terrorist groups such as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) and Al-Qaeda.



The terms of the agreement also mandate intra-Afghan dialogue between the various factions in the country engaged in hostilities. However whether the Taliban will accept the current Afghan government in Kabul, led by Ashraf Ghani, as a legitimate participant in any such future dialogue remains to be seen.



Up to this point, the Pashtun nationalist movement has steadfastly refused to recognise the government in Kabul. It has dismissed it as a US puppet regime, and in line with that has dismissed the upcoming Afghan elections, set to take place on September 28, as a sham.'



Read more: Whatever the CIA's been up to in Afghanistan it's nothing good

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Whatever the CIA's been up to in Afghanistan it's nothing good






'The US and the Taliban, we are led to believe, are close to agreeing a deal that would see the withdrawal of all US and NATO forces from Afghanistan. The question is though, will it?

First some context, beginning with the fact that the tortured history of this landlocked country, whose geographic location as a land bridge between Central Asia and the Middle East, and in modern times also as a potentially vital<a href="https://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/National_Office_Pubs/2008/A_Pipeline_Through_a_Troubled_Land.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> energy bridge[/url], entitles the Afghan people to believe that they are uniquely cursed.

The inordinate price they have been forced to pay since the US-backed Mujahadeen overran the country in the early nineties, all the way up to now at the end of 18 years of US/NATO attacks, occupation, and the propping up of a series of <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/world/asia/afghanistan-corruption.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">corrupt governments[/url] in Kabul, should be inscribed on the gravestone of what has passed for foreign policy in the West since the Soviet Union departed the scene.

As it did in Yugoslavia, as it did in Iraq, and as it did in Libya, Western intervention in Afghanistan only succeeded in making a bad situation many times worse. It has exacerbated religious, tribal and communal tensions instead of alleviating them.

Though, given the above, any peace deal that will hasten the departure of US and NATO forces from Afghanistan is to be welcomed, the devil as ever is in the detail.

And the devil in this particular instance is the CIA.

Before we come on to that and them, though, let us first consider the terms of the<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/05/taliban-talks-peace-afghanistan-190510062940394.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> draft agreement[/url], arrived at after eight rounds of talks over two weeks in the Qatari capital of Doha (though at the time of writing yet to be ratified by President Trump).

They require that in return for the complete withdrawal of US and NATO forces the Taliban will not allow the territory under its control,predominantly but not exclusively in the <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2016/08/afghanistan-controls-160823083528213.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">south of the country[/url], to be used as a base and launchpad for terrorist groups such as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) and Al-Qaeda.

The terms of the agreement also mandate intra-Afghan dialogue between the various factions in the country engaged in hostilities. However whether the Taliban will accept the current Afghan government in Kabul, led by Ashraf Ghani, as a legitimate participant in any such future dialogue remains to be seen.

Up to this point, the Pashtun nationalist movement has steadfastly refused to recognise the government in Kabul. It has dismissed it as a US puppet regime, and in line with that has dismissed the upcoming<a href="https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/afghanistans-2019-elections-2-who-are-running-to-become-the-next-president/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Afghan elections[/url], set to take place on September 28, as a sham.'

Read more: Whatever the CIA's been up to in Afghanistan it's nothing good


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EG, maybe this post of Al-CIA-da can on History( Intelligence Agencies, Secret service, Secret police etc. ) ?



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Since this forum is not JonesTown drunk on Right Wing Koolaid, I'll briefly mention

FreedomWorks
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/FreedomWorks

The Koch brothers . . . .


That you never ever hear about the Koch Brothers on the Alex Jones Radio Show - YOU SHOULD BE ALARMED

David Koch Dead at 79
https://www.infowars.com/david-koch-dead-at-79/



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Propaganda / Re: JonesTown Secrets
« Last post by EvadingGrid on Aug 23, 2019, 01:54:28 pm »
ANOTHER DAY IN THE EMPIRE

Mike Pence Meets Secretly with “Libertarian” Swamp Critter Charles Koch

June 24, 2017
Kurt Nimmo
http://anotherdayintheempire.com/mike-pence-meets-secretly-libertarian-swamp-critter-charles-koch/

On Friday, vice president Mike Pence traveled to Colorado Springs to meet with Charles Koch.

The Hill reports:

Pence, in town to headline a banquet celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Christian conservative group Focus on the Family, sat down with the chairman and chief executive of Koch Industries, along with key members of the Koch team.


The Hill describes the Koch brothers as libertarian, and yet they didn’t support the 2016 Libertarian Party candidate, Gary Johnson.

Recall Charles Koch saying he would support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. Does this sound even vaguely libertarian?

During the election, Koch threw his weight behind Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, former Florida governor Jeb Bush and Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Marco Rubio of Florida.

All are establishment Republicans. None, with the exception of Rand Paul, even approach libertarianism.

Donors to the Koch network and summit attendees represent a virtual who’s who of the establishment and corporate interests.

The short list:

• Marco Rubio
• Rich DeVos (Amway)
• Charles Schwab
• Steve and Betty Bechtel (the Bechtel Group)
• Ed Meese (Heritage Foundation)
• Glenn Beck
• Charles Krauthammer
• Rick Perry

Representatives from banking, investment, think tanks (including the American Enterprise Institute), big oil, health insurance, and other corporate interests also attend Koch donor summits. Big media—Associated Press, Bloomberg News, The Washington Post, CNN, Politico, and others—attend Koch meetings as well.

This is a cross section of the establishment, not a group of libertarians.

Recall how the Koch brothers infiltrated the original tea party movement and turned it into a cheering section for the Republican party. Libertarian tea party activists were summarily ejected. Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks took over.

There are not any libertarians in the Trump administration. He does have plenty of Goldman Sachs bankers and Council on Foreign Relations operatives, though.

“In addition to the establishment heavyweights Trump has already met with—including the former US Secretary of State and member of the influential Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Henry Kissinger, and the former Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and current head of the CFR, Richard Hass—Trump’s official advisory teams on both foreign and economic policy reveal some troublesome connections to the neocons, Wall Street, Soros and the CFR,” Steve MacMillan wrote last August.

Here is a list of CFR folks in his administration.

Mike Pence is a consummate insider, so it should come as no surprise he sat down with Koch.

Draining the swamp is little more than a cruel joke. In fact, it was nothing more than an election gimmick. The ruling elite—now popularly called the Deep State—may have disliked Trump when he was on the campaign trail, but undoubtedly they have few issues with him now.

David Koch Dead at 79
https://www.infowars.com/david-koch-dead-at-79/



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This, for the millionth time, is what happens when you let Austrian School-inspired ideologues and demagogues give pro-war/pro-police state/pro-NAFTA/pro-fractional reserve banking Democrats "left cover" -- you merely provide them convenient foil against which to define themselves in the eyes of the bottom "47 percent."

https://politicususa.com/2014/03/25/charles-koch-poor-good-stop-complaining.html

Charles Koch Says The Poor Have It Really Good So They Need to Stop Complaining

By: Rmusemore
PoliticusUSA.com
March, 25th, 2014

Poverty is a condition that refers to the general dearth of material possessions or money that prevents people from having access to basic human needs such as food, water, sanitation, clothing, shelter, health care, and education. It is a sad fact of life that in the richest nation in the history of the world, an inordinately high number of Americans live in abject poverty and do not have the means to provide their families with fundamentally basic needs of food, shelter, or healthcare. It is little surprise that Republicans are planning to increase the number of Americans living in poverty according to their intent to eliminate the nation’s anti-poverty programs, and it is not because the country is broke as Republicans are wont to claim.  It is more likely due, in part, to one of the two richest men in the country who claims the tens-of-millions of Americans living below the poverty line need to shut up, stop complaining, and start celebrating their good fortune as members of the richest one-percent in the world.

First, it is important to note that poverty, at least relative poverty, is generally defined by reputable economists contextually as economic inequality in the location or society in which people live, and in that context, it is likely that more than half of the American population is living in poverty. Charles Koch completely disagrees and last year his foundation produced a commercial stating that a family earning $34,000 annually are part of the richest one-percent in the world; especially when compared to developing third world nations and countries such as China and India where the majority of the population lives in absolute squalor.

It is not just Charles Koch, another wealthy CEO, Bud Konheim, said just last month that “We’ve got a country that the poverty level is wealth in 99% of the rest of the world, so we’re talking about woe is me, woe is us, woe is this. The guy that’s making, oh my God, he’s making $35,000 a year, why don’t we try that out in India or some countries we can’t even name. China, anyplace, the guy is wealthy.” Except Americans living in poverty do not live in China or India, or third world nations; they live in America where according to the Economic Policy Institute, a family of three would have to earn at least $48,000 annually just to afford the basic necessities to survive such as food, housing, and healthcare. Another organization, the Working Poor Families Project, estimates that the required income to meet the most basic survival needs is $45,000 annually; America’s median household income is approximately $51,000.

If the measure of poverty in America was not based on economic necessities for living standards during the 1950s and 1960s and applied to living costs today, the federal poverty level would exceed three times the current levels meaning that over half the nation is living below poverty. Simple arithmetic informs that if the current measure for a family of three earning 100% of the federal poverty level is $19,790 annually and exactly three times that figure is $59,370, then well over half the American population is, undoubtedly, living in poverty if the median income is $51,000.

It is astounding, but poverty measures are still based on food costs of the 1950s that have at least doubled, housing that has more than tripled, and healthcare costs that are six times higher than they were in the late 1970s. According to the Congressional Research Service, “The poverty line reflects a measure of economic need based on living standards that prevailed in the mid-1950s…It is not adjusted to reflect changes in needs associated with improved standards of living that have occurred over the decades since the measure was first developed. If the same basic methodology developed in the early 1960s was applied today, the poverty thresholds would be over three times higher than the current thresholds.” According to Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau calculations, a median family income of $51,000 will barely cover food, housing, health care, transportation, taxes, and other household expenditures in America; not China, India, or any sub-Saharan developing country. Between 2000 and 2011, the “official” poverty rate increased 25% with children and senior citizens being impacted the most drastically. Using the official poverty rate, 55% of seniors and 60% of children are considered very poor using “relative poverty” as a measure. For elderly women the figures are worse with Wider Opportunities for Women reporting that “60% of women age 65 and older who live alone or live with a spouse have incomes insufficient to cover basic, daily expenses,” but according to Charles Koch they are members of the richest 1% in the world.

What is often forgotten when discussing the state of American poverty is that the overwhelming majority of low-wage working families and senior citizens earning less than necessary to stave off starvation, ill-health, and exposure could not survive without anti-poverty programs Republicans and the Koch brothers want eliminated to return to pre-Depression era standards. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, food stamps, minimum wage, overtime pay, housing and heating assistance, and school lunch programs are all that keep tens-of-millions of Americans from falling victim to “killing poverty” Republicans and the Kochs are frantic to impose on all Americans. It is probably just one reason why Charles Koch and other extremely wealthy Americans are preparing the population for what is on their horizon by congratulating them for being part of the richest 1% of people in the world while living in dire poverty in the richest nation on Earth; because they have every intent to make conditions worse like in India and China.

It is irrelevant that Charles Koch is patronizing the poor in America by telling them they are wealthy by third world standards; it is precisely what Americans should expect from one of the two richest men in America who can fathom taking everything from the people and will not rest until he achieves his goal. It is not enough the Kochs and their ilk have Republicans in Congress poised to “reform” (read eliminate) anti-poverty programs, Social Security and Medicare, food stamps, and every other safety net preventing 99% of the population from sinking into poverty while “reforming” (drastically cutting) tax rates for the rich and corporations; they have ALEC and the State Policy Network raiding state public employees pensions to drive the entire population into poverty. When Charles Koch says $34,000 annually puts dirt poor Americans in the richest one percent by third world standards, he is preparing Americans for his vision of America to rival living conditions in China and India where those earning $32,000 annually are regarded as the wealthy elite.

[Continued...]

David Koch Dead at 79
https://www.infowars.com/david-koch-dead-at-79/



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