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Politics in General / Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
« Last post by Dude447 on Today at 01:10:15 am »
Well another thing I am really angry about are all the remainer MP's always saying things like , the people who voted to leave did not understand what they were voting for blah blah blah , these people are full of it , you can add most Millennials and Social Justice Warriors to my go back to sleep morons  list aswell . My worst fear is another referendum , if the house of parliament go's down that road I can see civil unrest ahead .

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Politics in General / Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
« Last post by EvadingGrid on May 23, 2019, 11:33:35 pm »

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Politics in General / Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
« Last post by EvadingGrid on May 23, 2019, 11:30:09 pm »
I am wondering if or when /May will resign. If it was anybody else I'd expect them to be gone before Monday when the results are announced.

Media will wish to attempt to ignore and dismiss this historic vote. They will dismiss it as just a protest vote, that its irrelevant claiming people will behaved differently in a general election, etc... whine ... ignore... whine .... dismiss....

Effectively it will be that second referendum the remainers claimed they wanted, and they are not going to be at all happy with the results. Normal people would at this point give in, but will live in a world of post-facts politics.

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Free Speech / Censorship / Re: Julian Assange
« Last post by Al Bundy on May 23, 2019, 07:59:55 pm »
Assange, 47, was arrested on April 11 after being handed over to British authorities by Ecuador. He is serving a 50-week sentence in a London prison for skipping bail while the U.S. seeks his extradition for conspiring to hack into military computers and spill secrets about U.S. operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. >:(

Hrafnsson, who has visited the Australian activist in jail, said Assange saw his eviction coming for weeks as relations with President Lenin Moreno’s government deteriorated, so he took great care to scrub computers and hard drives of any compromising material, including future planned leaks or internal communications with WikiLeaks collaborators.

Still, Hrafnsson said he fully expects Moreno or the Americans to claim revelations that don’t exist. He called Monday’s proceedings a “horse show” because no legal authority can guarantee Assange’s devices haven’t been tampered with, or the chain of custody unbroken, in the six weeks since his arrest.

“If anything surfaces, I can assure you it would’ve been planted,” he said. “Julian isn’t a novice when it comes to security and securing his information. We expected this to happen and protections have been in place for a very long time.”

A group of Assange’s supporters gathered outside Ecuador’s Embassy in London to protest the judicial proceeding. Demonstrators put banners on the railings with images of Assange, his mouth covered by an American flag, and chanted “Thieves! Thieves! Thieves! Shame on you!”

Ecuadorian authorities said they will hand over any belongings not given to U.S. or Ecuadorian investigators to Assange’s lawyers, who weren’t invited to Monday’s inventory-taking. Hrafnsson said he didn’t have a full inventory of Assange’s devices

Moreno decided to evict Assange from the embassy after accusing him of working with political opponents to hack into his phone and release damaging personal documents and photos, including several that showed him eating lobster in bed and the numbers of bank accounts allegedly used to hide proceeds from corruption.

Moreno’s actions immediately were celebrated by the Trump administration, which was key in helping Ecuador secure a $4.2 billion credit line from the International Monetary Fund and has provided the tiny South American country with new trade and military deals in recent weeks.
“The Americans are the ones pulling the strings, and Moreno their puppet dancing to the tune of money,” said Hrafnsson.
Separately on Monday, Swedish authorities issued a request for a detention order against Assange.
On May 13, Swedish prosecutors reopened a preliminary investigation against Assange, who visited Sweden in 2010, because two Swedish women said they were the victims of sex crimes committed by Assange.

While a case of alleged sexual misconduct against Assange in Sweden was dropped in 2017 when the statute of limitations expired, a rape allegation remains. Swedish authorities have had to shelve it because Assange was living at the embassy at the time and there was no prospect of bringing him to Sweden.

The statute of limitations in the rape case expires in August next year. Assange has denied wrongdoing, asserting that the allegations were politically motivated and that the sex was consensual.

According to the request for a detention order obtained by The Associated Press, Assange is wanted for “intentionally having carried out an intercourse” with an unnamed woman “by unduly exploiting that she was in a helpless state because of sleep.”


AP writers Gonzalo Solano in Quito, Ecuador, and Jan M. Olsen in Copenhagen, Denmark, contributed to this report

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Propaganda / Re: Democrats
« Last post by Al Bundy on May 23, 2019, 07:24:00 pm »
Iran / Re: Is the US heading for war with Iran?
« Last post by poseidonlost on May 23, 2019, 07:23:50 pm »

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Propaganda / Guccifer 2.0 wasn't Russian?
« Last post by poseidonlost on May 23, 2019, 07:12:07 pm »
HA, this article was posted on the Ron Paul Institute's site. It checks out to me. Reminds me of the time I heard someone say, "Nothing is leaked by mistake." I'm really starting to think that more and more as time goes on...

Nope, Guccifer 2.0 Was Not a Russian Creation by Larry C Johnson

Larry Johnson 22 May 2019

Russia did not hack the DNC. This is not an opinion. It is a conclusion that flows from one very specific claim made by the Special Counsel—i.e., Guccifer 2.0 was a fictional identity created by Russian Military Intelligence, the GRU. If Guccifer was in fact a creation or creature of the GRU, then the forensic evidence should show that this entity was operating from Russia or under the direct control of the GRU.  The forensic evidence shows something quite different—the meta data in the Guccifer 2.0 documents were manipulated deliberately to plant Russian fignerprints. This was not an accident nor an oversight due to carelessness.


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International News / Re: BalkanNews
« Last post by Al Bundy on May 23, 2019, 06:38:02 pm »
Political Party of President Vucic ( SNS ) have voted to introduce life imprisonment without parole for some serious crimes, despite concerns voiced by the Council of Europe's top human rights official.

Parliament on May 21 approved amendments to the Balkan country's Criminal Code, which resulted from a petition launched by the father of a teenage girl who was raped and killed in 2014.

The new legislation introduces life imprisonment for the killing of a senior official, acts of terrorism, war crimes, and other serious crimes.

Those sentenced to life in prison may apply for parole after having spent 27 years behind bars, except those found guilty of acts such as the rape and killing of a minor or a pregnant or disabled person.

Until now, the maximum sentence in Serbia was 40 years in prison.

The Council of Europe's Human Rights Commissioner Dunja Mijatovic earlier this month called on the Serbian authorities not to submit the draft law to a vote.

Serbia is bound by the European Convention on Human Rights, which does not prohibit life sentences but requires "a prospect of the prisoner's release and the possibility of a review of the sentence," Mijatovic wrote in a letter to Justice Minister Nela Kuburic.

The draft law was introduced after years of campaigning by Igor Juric, whose 15-year-old daughter Tijana was abducted and killed in 2014. Her killer is currently serving a 40-year sentence.

Juric's call for a life sentence without possibility of parole has been backed by a petition signed by about 160,000 people.

Serbia seeks to join the European Union and must align its legislation, including its Criminal Code, with those of the bloc.

Many European countries have life sentences but with the possibility of parole, including France and Germany.

With reporting by AP, AFP, and Reuters

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Syria / Re: ISIS defeated in Syria ?
« Last post by Al Bundy on May 23, 2019, 06:18:17 pm »
According to RT, Al-Nusra terrorists fired 17 missiles on the Russian base, but the missiles were intercepted and the attack was repelled.

The attack was attempted at a time when the Syrian army carried out a large military offensive in the province of Idlib in Syria.

Since May 6, the Russian base is often targeted by the terrorists of the former Al-Nusra Front. So far, all attacks have been prevented.

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Politics in General / Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
« Last post by poseidonlost on May 23, 2019, 01:40:01 pm »
Brexit Party vote done !

EG would you care to offer an opinion on where this going to all end up ? .

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Seconded. They aren't saying much about this.  :)

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