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on September 10th 2016, Jimd3100 posted a thread on prisonplanetforum about 9/11. Im going to try to summarize some important parts.

Examining what's in "the 28 pages" of the Joint Inquiry.

The "28 pages" are not from the 9-11 commission, they are from the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

Since I was confidant of a bulk of the "28 pages" content, I knew the rebuttal to them would be "The 9-11 commission investigated The Saudis and cleared everything up."

I had always assumed that was the main point of the 9-11 commission.

Since the 28 pages from the JI have been hidden for nearly 14 years, I've had 12 years (9-11 commission released in July 2004) to examine whether "The Saudis were exonerated" and the "Intelligence failures" explained.

"The Saudis" were not exonerated and the "Intelligence failures" were not explained.

The "star" of the 28 pages is Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar

THE JOINT INQUIRY INTO THE TERRORIST ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 (public version released July 2003 -where the 28 pages were blacked out ):

Bandar mentioned 0 times.
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Thumairy mentioned 0 times.
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Omar al-Bayoumi mentioned 32 times
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Osama Bassnan mentioned 13 times
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

Abu Zubaydah mentioned 2 times
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

The "28 pages" (that was blacked out of the THE JOINT INQUIRY INTO THE TERRORIST ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001)until finally released in July 2016

Bandar mentioned 18 times
https://28pages.org/the-declassified-28-pages/

Thumairy mentioned 5 times
https://28pages.org/the-declassified-28-pages/

So every time Bandar and Thumairy were mentioned in THE JOINT INQUIRY INTO THE TERRORIST ATTACKS OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 -it was censored out.

July 30, 2003
Bush Won't Reveal Saudi 9/11 Info

The Saudis have complained that they cannot respond to a report they cannot see. But Bush made plain he has no intention of declassifying the material.

"I absolutely have no qualms at all because there's an ongoing investigation into the 9-11 attacks, and we don't want to compromise that investigation," Mr. Bush said at an earlier news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in the Rose Garden.

"If people are being investigated, it doesn't make sense for us to let them know who they are," Mr. Bush told reporters before meeting with al-Faisal.


Imagine how it must have been for Bush to have his good buddy under investigation for the worst mass murder in American History.

Law enforcement all across America everyday let people know they are being investigated every time they execute a search warrant and "take someone downtown" for questioning. But Bush wont allow that. Because that would "compromise" the investigation.

The Administration has to date objected to the Inquiry’s efforts to interview the informant in order to attempt to resolve those inconsistencies. The Administration also would not agree to allow the FBI to serve a Committee subpoena and deposition notice on the informant. Instead, written interrogatories from the Joint Inquiry were, at the suggestion of the FBI, provided to the informant. Through an attorney, the informant has declined to respond to those interrogatories and has indicated that, if subpoenaed, the informant would request a grant of immunity prior to testifying  page 51/858
https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf



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SEPTEMBER 11, 2019, Anthony Summers for the Florida Bulldog:

Long hidden 9/11 Commission interview with Saudi Prince Bandar released

Restricted on national security grounds, the commission’s summary notes of the October 7, 2003 interview with Bandar were released to the authors by the National Archives only a month ago. We had been trying to obtain them for almost a decade. The interview was conducted at Bandar’s home in McLean, Virginia, by Commission Director Philip Zelikow and three members of his staff. The Commission did not routinely record its interviews, according to Zelikow. No transcript is available.

Early in the meeting, Prince Bandar expressed dismay at the treatment the Saudi government received from Congress’ Joint Inquiry into the Terrorist Attacks of September 11.

Bandar described the Saudis as “struggling to remove the shadow of 9/11 from their relationship with the United States.”

(But) Bandar had a very personal reason to be sensitive to the Inquiry’s work. The unclassified version of the Inquiry Report, and press leaks of the content of 28 then still classified pages, implicated Prince Bandar himself, and his wife, in payments made to Osama Basnan, a U.S.-based Saudi suspected of being part of the hijackers’ support system.

Though the 9/11 Commission knew all this when it interviewed Bandar, it did not question the Ambassador about it.

“Our investigation did not confirm a number of the allegations,” Commission Director Zelikow said when queried about the Bandar interview, “so those would not necessarily have been valid factual premises for questions posed to Saudi officials.”

In its Report, the 9/11 Commission concluded that it had found no evidence that Prince Bandar’s wife supplied funds to the 9/11 conspirators either directly or indirectly.

Bandar was close to President George W. Bush and his family, so close that he earned the nickname “Bandar Bush”. Just two days after the 9/11 attacks, he was photographed relaxing on a White House balcony with the President, Vice President Dick Cheney, and National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice.

On September 13, for instance, the night of Bandar’s White House visit, his deputy called the FBI to seek assistance in getting bin Laden “family members” and other Saudis out of the country.

https://www.floridabulldog.org/2019/09/long-hidden-9-11-commission-interview-with-saudi-prince-bandar-released/

All this raises the question...

Could Prince Bandar have pressured the Bush Whitehouse to set up the 9/11 Commission in the first place and thereby take the 911 investigation out of the Senate into a vehicle more directly controlled by the White House.



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Al Hazmi and Al-Mihdhar, the first hijackers to arrive in America, arrived on Jan 15 2000. They moved to San Diego in early Feb 2000.

Quote from: jimd3100 on December 29, 2013, 07:33:35 PM
FBI Investigation report that Saudi Officials are contact men for 9/11 terrorists

"FBI Los Angeles Investigative Results:
Los Angeles has determined that __________may be a potential contact of the hijackers and __________ in Los Angeles. ________is an administrative officer at the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles and may have diplomatic status. _________is also believed to be one of the Imans at the King Fahad mosque.___________also fits the description, as provided_____________of the individual that ____________met at the Saudi consulate prior to _____________"chance" meeting with the hijackers at the restaurant."
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-09-04-FBI-Fahad-Al-Thumairy.pdf

Source from:
9/4/2002: FBI Information Control Sheet, Fahad Al-Thumairy
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-09-04-FBI-Fahad-Al-Thumairy.pdf

Fahad al-Thumairy is the name being deleted as the potential contact of the hijackers. Fahad al-Thumairy was an administrative officer at the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles, Bin Don provided the description that Bayoumi met at the Saudi consulate prior to his "chance" meeting with the hijackers. Fahad al-Thumairy's name appears no where in the unclassified version of the joint inquiry. Therefore Fahad al-Thumairy is mentioned in the 28 pages that have been censured from the joint inquiry.


What led investigators to Fahad Thumairy seems to be interviews with Qualid Benomrane. Fahad Al-thumairy is named as the suspected "contact" in America for the hijackers according to FBI investigators.

Qualid Benomrane is not mentioned in the Joint Inquiry that the "28 pages" came from, he is not mentioned in the "28 pages" that were recently declassified, and he is not mentioned in the 9-11 commission Report. However he is mentioned in the 9-11 commission report footnotes(where the real story is)and is certainly mentioned in FBI investigators reports. It seems very hard to believe the Joint Inquiry never mentioned him, since it seems he was the lead that led to Thumairy. It would appear therefor, that he is still being "classified" from the JI and 28 pages.

According to the footnotes of the 9-11 commission:

The most intriguing lead concerns an Arabic-speaking taxicab driver, Qualid Benomrane, who was arrested on immigration charges in early 2002. When asked to look at a series of photographs that included the 19 hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks, Benomrane responded ambiguously, seeming first to pick out the photographs of Hazmi and Mihdhar but then denying that he recognized them.
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

They are referring to this FBI report:

During the interview, Benomrane was shown photographs of all the hijackers, and numerous photographs of unrelated individuals. Benomrane looked at all the photographs carefully and placed all the photographs in a pile on the left side of the desk. When he viewed the photographs of Al-Mihdhar and Al-Hazmi, he placed the photographs on the right side of the desk. Once he had gone through all the photographs, he mixed the photographs and stated that he did not recognize anyone from the photos. FBI Los Angeles is of the opinion that Benomrane may have been less than truthful with the investigators regarding his recognition of anyone from the photographs.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140114170139/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-25-FBI-fahad-althumairy.pdf

The 9-11 commission footnote goes on...

Later in the interview, Benomrane told the FBI about driving “two Saudis” around Los Angeles and to San Diego’s Sea World after being introduced to them by Thumairy at the King Fahd mosque before 9/11. According to Benomrane, someone at the consulate had asked Thumairy to assist the two Saudis, who had recently arrived in Los Angeles and had moved to an apartment near the mosque. page 532/585
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

see page 2/6 from this FBI report on Benomrane taking the "two Saudis" to Sea World....
https://web.archive.org/web/20140114170139/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-25-FBI-fahad-althumairy.pdf

The 9-11 commission footnote goes on...

Working with agencies of the U.S. government, we have attempted to locate and interview Benomrane overseas, since he was deported in 2002. After checking many possible avenues of corroboration for this story, our investigation has not substantiated the hypothesis that Benomrane’s “two Saudis” were Hazmi and Mihdhar. In fact, we have established that Benomrane did not obtain a taxi license, or even a driver’s license, until months after he could be supposed to have chauffeured Hazmi and Mihdhar.
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf



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So if the purpose of the 9/11 Commission was to shut down the influence of the Senate and protect - at the very least - prince Bandar, where might the 9/11 investigation have gone if that hadnt happened.

Quote from: jimd3100 on December 29, 2013, 07:33:35 PM
FBI Investigation report that Saudi Officials are contact men for 9/11 terrorists

"FBI Los Angeles Investigative Results:
Los Angeles has determined that __________may be a potential contact of the hijackers and __________ in Los Angeles. ________is an administrative officer at the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles and may have diplomatic status. _________is also believed to be one of the Imans at the King Fahad mosque.___________also fits the description, as provided_____________of the individual that ____________met at the Saudi consulate prior to _____________"chance" meeting with the hijackers at the restaurant."
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-09-04-FBI-Fahad-Al-Thumairy.pdf

Source from:
9/4/2002: FBI Information Control Sheet, Fahad Al-Thumairy
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-09-04-FBI-Fahad-Al-Thumairy.pdf

Fahad al-Thumairy is the name being deleted as the potential contact of the hijackers. Fahad al-Thumairy was an administrative officer at the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles, Bin Don provided the description that Bayoumi met at the Saudi consulate prior to his "chance" meeting with the hijackers. Fahad al-Thumairy's name appears no where in the unclassified version of the joint inquiry. Therefore Fahad al-Thumairy is mentioned in the 28 pages that have been censured from the joint inquiry.

What led investigators to Fahad Thumairy seems to be interviews with Qualid Benomrane. Fahad Al-thumairy is named as the suspected "contact" in America for the hijackers according to FBI investigators.

Qualid Benomrane is not mentioned in the Joint Inquiry that the "28 pages" came from, he is not mentioned in the "28 pages" that were recently declassified, and he is not mentioned in the 9-11 commission Report. However he is mentioned in the 9-11 commission report footnotes(where the real story is)and is certainly mentioned in FBI investigators reports. It seems very hard to believe the Joint Inquiry never mentioned him, since it seems he was the lead that led to Thumairy. It would appear therefor, that he is still being "classified" from the JI and 28 pages.

According to the footnotes of the 9-11 commission:

The most intriguing lead concerns an Arabic-speaking taxicab driver, Qualid Benomrane, who was arrested on immigration charges in early 2002. When asked to look at a series of photographs that included the 19 hijackers involved in the 9/11 attacks, Benomrane responded ambiguously, seeming first to pick out the photographs of Hazmi and Mihdhar but then denying that he recognized them.
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

They are referring to this FBI report:

During the interview, Benomrane was shown photographs of all the hijackers, and numerous photographs of unrelated individuals. Benomrane looked at all the photographs carefully and placed all the photographs in a pile on the left side of the desk. When he viewed the photographs of Al-Mihdhar and Al-Hazmi, he placed the photographs on the right side of the desk. Once he had gone through all the photographs, he mixed the photographs and stated that he did not recognize anyone from the photos. FBI Los Angeles is of the opinion that Benomrane may have been less than truthful with the investigators regarding his recognition of anyone from the photographs.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140114170139/http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2002-10-25-FBI-fahad-althumairy.pdf

The 9-11 commission footnote goes on...

Later in the interview, Benomrane told the FBI about driving “two Saudis” around Los Angeles and to San Diego’s Sea World after being introduced to them by Thumairy at the King Fahd mosque before 9/11. According to Benomrane, someone at the consulate had asked Thumairy to assist the two Saudis, who had recently arrived in Los Angeles and had moved to an apartment near the mosque. page 532/585
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

The 9-11 commission footnote goes on...

Working with agencies of the U.S. government, we have attempted to locate and interview Benomrane overseas, since he was deported in 2002. After checking many possible avenues of corroboration for this story, our investigation has not substantiated the hypothesis that Benomrane’s “two Saudis” were Hazmi and Mihdhar. In fact, we have established that Benomrane did not obtain a taxi license, or even a driver’s license, until months after he could be supposed to have chauffeured Hazmi and Mihdhar.
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

The 9-11 commission knows Thumairy lied throughout his interview with them as pointed out here...

Our general impression of Thumairy is that he was deceptive during both interviews.....
https://cryptome.org/2014/09/saudi-911-interviews.pdf

That's all the information the 9-11 Commission Report, and it's footnotes tell us about Qualid Benomrane.

But there is more.....

Qualid Benomrane, not mentioned in the JI. Not mentioned in the released "28 pages". Not mentioned in the 9-11 commission report. Barely mentioned as a footnote in the 9-11 commission reports' back pages, and only then as a "most intriguing lead" but later dismissed for seemingly nonsensical reasons. Yet he is the reason Thumairy-Basnan-Bayoumi-Bandar and their role came to light. How did that happen?

It started with the LAPD, when the manager of an apartment building called the police after 9/11 happened:

Immediately after 9/11, he told police, the men shaved their beards, changed out of traditional Islamic garb, and stopped praying openly and attending the King Fahd mosque, one of the area’s largest, in neighboring Culver City. The manager also claimed that he’d seen the renters remove a license plate from their car, which they pushed to a side street, off the busier boulevard where they usually parked it.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/front-line-war-terrorism-13025.html#box

LAPD/detectives look into it:

The LAPD put the apartment and its residents—as well as their friends and associates, some 250 people in all—under surveillance. Eventually, it assigned more than 150 investigators and support employees to the case. Their focus eventually narrowed to a core of eight or ten suspects. “We knew we were dealing with a network of some kind,” a detective says. But investigators couldn’t prove that the group that they were watching was, as they suspected, an al-Qaida support cell in the heart of Hollywood.
When the police discovered that two of the men initially questioned were in the country illegally, they arrested them. One by one, others under surveillance were quietly arrested on various criminal charges—identity theft, illegal gun possession, and marriage and insurance fraud—none of which even mentioned terrorism. In some cases, immigration authorities deported the men on immigration charges. In other cases, suspects pleaded guilty and went to jail, or voluntarily left the country.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/front-line-war-terrorism-13025.html#box

Qualid Benomrane soon gets their attention:

The investigation soon focused on a man who seemed to be at the cell’s hub—Qualid Benomrane, a North African taxi driver mentioned in a footnote of the 9/11 Commission Report. Arrested on immigration charges in early 2002, he told the police that prior to the attacks he had driven “two Saudis” around L.A. and to San Diego’s Sea World, after being introduced to them by Fahad al-Thumairy, a diplomat at the Saudi consulate in Los Angeles. Benomrane also told police that someone at the consulate had asked al-Thumairy to take care of the two men.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/front-line-war-terrorism-13025.html#box

The detectives who investigated this case don't agree with the 9-11 commissions footnote poo-pooing Benomrane:

The 9/11 commission investigators concluded that “the hypothesis that Benomrane’s ‘two Saudis’ were Hazmi and Midhar” couldn’t be substantiated.
But the LAPD detectives who investigated the case remain convinced that Benomrane and al-Thumairy were militants in the al-Qaida support network and that Benomrane’s passengers were, in fact, the two hijackers. “Our investigation found, for instance, that Benomrane had taken photos of the structural supports of the Golden Gate Bridge during a trip to northern California,” a detective says. The LAPD also discovered that Benomrane had taken his two Saudi passengers to a gas station where one of the two San Diego–based hijackers had worked before heading east to carry out his deadly mission. (The FBI, which participated in the investigation, declined comment since the inquiry was classified, but a commission investigator said that the bureau has no record of such a side trip.)
The LAPD investigators decided to question Benomrane in jail once more, but they never got the chance: he was deported on the eve of their visit to see him
http://www.city-journal.org/html/front-line-war-terrorism-13025.html#box

The LAPD seems to have been doing a more in-depth investigation than the FBI-

The LAPD also discovered that Benomrane had taken his two Saudi passengers to a gas station where one of the two San Diego–based hijackers had worked before heading east to carry out his deadly mission. (The FBI, which participated in the investigation, declined comment since the inquiry was classified, but a commission investigator said that the bureau has no record of such a side trip.)
http://www.city-journal.org/html/front-line-war-terrorism-13025.html#box

Hazmi did in fact work at a San Diego gas station where the owner and manager were already suspects and under investigation as Islamic militants, and the manager, Iyad Kreiwesh was married (despite already being married)in a ceremony conducted in L.A. by Fahad Al-Thumairy.

Don't be fooled. Benomrane knows a lot, and the 9-11 commission knows it. Why does he know a lot and why is he talking? One reason is because he's always at the King Fahad Mosque where Thumairy is the Imam, and one reason he's talking is he doesn't want to be deported because for some reason he believes he will be killed if deported back to Tunisia. He was deported pretty quickly. He disappeared from the JI, the 28 pages, the 9-11 commission report, and with his deportation, planet earth.

________is very fearful that he will be deported back to Tunisia where he believes he will be placed in prison or killed. page 7/10
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-interviews-2002-03-mar/view

This guy Benomrane, knows to much and is talking to much. Yea, I'd say he's dead. What did he know and talk about?

...he is currently being sponsored by a Saudi Arabian named ______LNU in his attempts to obtain a green card.......He began sponsoring____________ in April 2001.   page 1/10

Currently ________worships at the King Fahad Mosque in Culver City. He said that the mosque director is named _______________. He said the Imam is _________.  page 2/10
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-interviews-2002-03-mar/view

(we know the Imam is Fahad Al-Thumairy)

_________had heard that two Saudi Arabian men arrived at LAX and were met by a person unknown to ______ This unknown person then took the two Saudis to an apartment complex that had already been rented for them. _______stated he could not remember the address, but that it was a large white building located on Sepulveda Blvd. between Venice Blvd. and Palm st.  page 3/10
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-interviews-2002-03-mar/view

I've been saving this. This exposes one of the biggest lies Thumairy told in his interview with the 9-11 commission. Earlier I posted the following, in regards to Bayoumi meeting the hijackers at a restaurant after his meeting with Thumairy.

Quote from: jimd3100 on December 29, 2013, 07:33:35 PM
"Bin Don said that al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar told al-Bayoumi that they were living in an apartment "nearby."
"Bin Don said that they did not have a motor vehicle. He does not recall the direction that they walked after leaving the Mediterranean Cafe."

The exact location of the Mediterranean Cafe is 10863 Venice Boulevard and the meeting took place on 02/01/2000 as this FBI report shows.....
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-investigation-2002-09-sep

In a not so amazing coincidence Saudi Consulate Fahad Al Thumairy just happened for some reason to have several apartments leased in his name within walking distance.
The Hijackers stayed in an apartment in Los Angeles from the time of their arrival on Jan 15 2000 until they moved to San Diego in early Feb.

"Upon arriving in Los Angeles, al-Thumairy stayed in a hotel close to both the KFM and the Saudi consulate for approximately one week. He then moved into an apartment on Kelton Avenue, near Venice Boulevard. AI-Thumairy said he subsequently moved from this apartment to a house in Culver City on Huron Avenue."
http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-01249.pdf

All within walking distance of the Mediterranean Cafe where Bayoumi meets the Hijackers as this Google map shows Kelton Avenue is about 1 block from the cafe, Huron Avenue is about 4 blocks away and the KFM is a short distance South of the cafe......

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=10863+Venice+Blvd+Los+Angeles,+CA+90034&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80c2ba374da836b5:0xc3887eea8b8fcaa,10863+Venice+Blvd,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90034&gl=us&ei=n8G8Uq7cDsLr2QWMuIBg&ved=0CCkQ8gEwAA

All the places Thumairy lived were within walking distance of the Mediterranean Restauraunt, but one of those places Thumairy had more than one apartment leased in his name. Remember, Benomrane has been in jail since early 2002 up to this point. This is March of 2002 when Benomrane said...

This unknown person then took the two Saudis to an apartment complex that had already been rented for them. _______stated he could not remember the address, but that it was a large white building located on Sepulveda Blvd. between Venice Blvd. and Palm st.
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-interviews-2002-03-mar/view

Let's go back to Thumairy's interview again.....The part I've been saving........

Al-Thumairy said he moved from this house into an apartment closer to the consulate during his last year in the U.S. Specifically, he said he moved into the Avalon Westside apartment complex on Sepulveda Avenue with his family sometime in 2002  page 3/13
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610850

Avalon Westside apartment complex on Sepulveda Avenue is between Venice Blvd. and Palm st.

Benomrane having been in custody for months stated in March 2002-

This unknown person then took the two Saudis to an apartment complex that had already been rented for them. _______stated he could not remember the address, but that it was a large white building located on Sepulveda Blvd. between Venice Blvd. and Palm st.
https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11%20Commission%20Report/9-11-interviews-2002-03-mar/view

He fingered the apartment complex Thumairy admits he lived in. And he lived there before 2002. He had several leases in his name there. And it's less than a mile from the Mediterranean Restaurant. The hijackers lived here for their first two weeks in L.A. ......

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/3636+South+Sepulveda+Boulevard,+Los+Angeles,+CA/10863+Venice+Blvd,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90034/@34.0169127,-118.4189546,16z/am=t/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c2ba49022c2e05:0xef7fe303d5ec69b6!2m2!1d-118.4190846!2d34.0164037!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c2ba374c8178e1:0x6f680c09334ba298!2m2!1d-118.4108167!2d34.016914

Thumairy interview with 9-11 commission:

Al-Thumairy was next asked about his rental history at the Avalon apartment complex, where he rented an apartment after vacating the house on Huron Street. When asked specifically whether he, the KFM, or the Saudi consulate ever rented any other apartments there, al Thumairy responded no.......
AI-Thumairy also once again confirmed that he never rented any other apartments at the Avalon complex. When asked whether he would be surprised if there were other apartments at Avalon with leases in his name, he said yes because the management would have required identification to sign the lease.......
When told by SA Maguire that his name appears on more than one lease at Avalon in the summer of 2001, Al-Thumairy said that when he returned from vacation in Saudi Arabia, his apartment was not yet ready so he was living in a different apartment from that into which he later moved.
Al-Thumairy offered this speculation as his only explanation for why his name may appear on the lease for more than one apartment at that time. He could not recall whether this was in 2001 or 2002, however.
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/2610850

Thumairy lied throughout his interview. This was one of the biggest though.

Benomrane has told us where the hijackers lived in L.A. Thumairy was housing the hijackers, and got caught lying about it.
 

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Benomrane is the reason an investigation was opened on Thumairy...........
...

And this very interesting subpoena.....

SUBPOENA
To Hilton Hotels Corporation

ATTACHMENT A

The checkout folio for Said Abdullah, who checked out of the Hilton hotel at Los Angeles Airport on January 16, 2000; and

The checkout folio for Said Abdallah, who checked out of the Hilton hotel at Los Angeles Airport on January 16, 2000.
https://www.scribd.com/document/14553330/SD-B4-Supoenas-Sepulveda-Fdr-Hilton-Letter-and-Subpoena-Re-Said-Abdullah-094

Remember Benomrane said.....

He also remembered during this interview, that the two Saudis stayed at the LAX Hilton when they first arrived, and that they were met at the airport by someone from the Saudi Consulate in LA.

Detective Gizzi from the LAPD ran the leads at the LAX Hilton. They met with negative results.

How did the commission know to issue a subpoena for those names?

Hilton response to subpoena with Said Abdullah and Said Abdallah names redacted.....

T1A B43 Hilton Subpoena Fdr- Entire Contents- Subpoena- Faxes- Guest Folio- Said Abdullah (See SD B4 Subpoenas for Unredacted
https://www.scribd.com/document/18662012/T1A-B43-Hilton-Subpoena-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Subpoena-Faxes-Guest-Folio-Said-Abdullah-See-SD-B4-Subpoenas-for-Unredacted

According to the billing they stayed in room 1777 and the room was held for them starting Jan 13.
page 5/9 shows on the billing that a MasterCard was used.
https://www.scribd.com/document/18662012/T1A-B43-Hilton-Subpoena-Fdr-Entire-Contents-Subpoena-Faxes-Guest-Folio-Said-Abdullah-See-SD-B4-Subpoenas-for-Unredacted

I'd like to know who's MasterCard that was. If someone gets embarrassed by this, because it all turns out to be innocent, to bad. It's worth looking into. Frankly these two names who checked out together the day after the hijackers arrived sound rather suspicious to me....
Said Abdullah and
Said Abdallah
Really?



The Reason Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son were murdered

I think I know who could be the name on the mastercard holding the room for Hazmi and Mihdhar/ AKA Abdullah and Abdallah....Benomrane describes "a yemeni" a few times in his interview, and the Yemeni knows more....

Benomrane wasn't supposed to chauffer the Saudis, until "a Yemeni" was price-gouging Thumairy...

"...he had already heard at that point that two Saudis had come to town, and were met at LAX by someone unknown to Benomrane."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/243329031/Footnote-Box-1-Redwell-7-FBI-MFR-09292003-Fdr-MFR-Benomrane

"He went on to describe a Yemeni, who was unknown to him, who was supposed to shepherd around the 2 young Saudis before Benomrane met them."
https://www.scribd.com/doc/243329031/Footnote-Box-1-Redwell-7-FBI-MFR-09292003-Fdr-MFR-Benomrane

This makes a likely suspect...



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