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« on: Jul 29, 2019, 10:40:40 am »
 

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California just implemented background checks on ammo purchases, a first in the US on July 1st.    The California Rifle & Pistol Association filed an injunction on 7/22/2019 against the law and a hearing is set for August 19th. In addition,  last week a California district judge ruled that semiautomatic rifles are not covered under the 2nd amendment.   Please keep this in mind as we all read about the latest mass
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Three dead, suspect killed in shooting at Gilroy Garlic Festival in California

July 28, 2019, 9:38 PM EDT / Updated July 29, 2019, 8:28 AM EDT
By Alex Johnson, Andrew Blankstein and Alexandra Hess

Authorities said a shooter appeared to have cut a fence into the festival. Police said a second possible suspect was being sought.

https://nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/multiple-victims-reported-possible-shooting-gilroy-garlic-festival-n1035546
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t least three people were killed, including a 6-year-old boy, and 12 others wounded in a shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in Northern California after a suspect wearing tactical gear and armed with an assault rifle opened fire, authorities and witnesses said Sunday night.

"It's sort of a nightmare you hope you never have to live in reality," Gilroy Police Chief Scot Smithee said at a news conference.

The suspect, who a federal law enforcement official identified as Santino William Legan, was shot and killed by the police.

Smithee said the suspect appeared to be firing "somewhat randomly," and that investigators had no information on a possible motive. He said that police believed a second person may have been involved but that they didn't know in what way. One of those killed was 6-year-old Steven Romero who was at the festival with this mother and grandmother, who were also injured in the shooting.



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it was interesting that he bought the ak-47 in Nevada ... It is odd that the witnesses reported the assassin "spraying" bullets as though it was full auto yet it was reported as being a semi auto ( that would be legal) also there may have been a second assailant as yet unknown as typical in these cases the wound up nut case and a controller , who may have had the full auto ,,, who disappears  and the police are happy cause they have thye dead killer why look for trouble ?  All very strange except in reference to the push to ban weapons in California except for the thugs , police  and politically left bodyguards.



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Gilroy Garlic Festival gunman referred to 'Might is Right' manifesto before shooting

https://nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gilroy-garlic-festival-gunman-referenced-might-right-manifesto-shortly-shooting-n1035781

July 29, 2019, 2:13 PM EDT / Updated July 29, 2019, 5:05 PM EDT
By David Ingram, Brandy Zadrozny and Corky Siemaszko

GILROY, Calif. — The gunman who killed three people and wounded a dozen more at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in Northern California was an angry 19-year-old who had recently waded into the world of white supremacy.

Santino William Legan, who was shot dead by police Sunday before he could do more damage, posted online about an 1890 racist manifesto, “Might is Right or The Survival of the Fittest,” NBC News confirmed.

“Read Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard,” Legan posted on his Instagram page. He then used a slurs against mixed-race people and misogynistic descriptions of white Silicon Valley workers, complaining about "hordes" of them "overcrowding" towns.

Redbeard, which was a pseudonym, argued that only strength and violence determined what is morally right. The work, which is filled with misogynistic and anti-Semitic rhetoric, is a staple among neo-Nazis and white supremacists on extremist sites.

More at the link --->  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gilroy-garlic-festival-gunman-referenced-might-right-manifesto-shortly-shooting-n1035781



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Weirder and weirder ,,, an SKS from Fallon Nv is like nowhere and also is near the Fallon Air station hmmm ... what is a 19 year old doing with an apartment in Nevada ? was it in  Fallon ... ? Or was the Fallon apt just a way  to purchase the weapon ?
Did the "family" know about the weapons purchase ?  Was there a connection with the air station ? ie a military connection

Again the weapon sold was a semi-auto not a full auto "assault" rifle ...

https://www.cnic.navy.mil/regions/cnrsw/installations/nas_fallon.html
Naval Air Station Fallon, Fallon

Home to the Fighting Saints of VFC-13, the Desert Outlaws of Strike Fighter Wing Pacific. and the Naval Strike Air Warfare Center, NAS Fallon serves as the Navy’s premier tactical air warfare training center.

“Train the way you fight; fight the way you train.”

Known throughout the Navy as the only facility in existence where an entire carrier air wing can conduct comprehensive training while integrating every element of the wing into realistic battle scenarios.

Naval Air Station Fallon is located in Fallon


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/santino-william-legan-gilroy-shooter-from-boxing-loving-family-cited-might-makes-right/ar-AAF2405
Santino William Legan: Gilroy shooter from boxing-loving family, cited 'Might Makes Right'
Joe Szydlowski, Jared Weber and Chris Woodyard
16 hrs ago
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His weapon, identified by federal authorities as a variant of an AK-47 assault rifle, was purchased in Nevada, where Legan apparently had an apartment. Legan is originally from Gilroy, the chief said.

A gun seller in Fallon, Nevada, posted a note apologizing to families for having sold the weapon to Legan.

"I did not know this individual," said the posting on the Big Mikes Gun and Ammo page on Facebook. "He ordered the rifle off my internet page. When I did see him, he was acting happy and showed no reasons for concern. I would never ever sell any firearm to anyone who acted wrong or looks associated with any bad group like white power. Everyone is my brother and sister and I am mourning for the families."
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Legan and his two brothers hailed from a family known for its love of athletics. The family was so involved in boxing they had a ring set up in the garage of their two-story home, said neighbor Elia Scettrini, 65, a retired Gilroy High School teacher who lives two doors away in a quiet neighborhood about four miles from the shooting scene.
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The family is in great pain right now, Turcan said in a text message.

"They are good people and they are devastated," Turcan said. "That's all I know."

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Satanic connection:  ( Which is also connected to Aquino , Presidio and Charles Manson

https://exposinginfragard.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-case-against-michael-aquino-satanic.html
The 'Conspiracy' Against Michael Aquino – Satanic Pedophile

For those who don’t know, Michael Aquino was a Psychological Warfare Specialist in the US Army from 1968 until 1990, when he was involuntarily discharged as a result of investigations into his involvement in the ritual sexual abuse of children at the Presidio Day Care Center in San Francisco. Throughout this same time, he has also been a devout satanist and self-confessed neo-Nazi. He joined Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan in 1969, staying until 1975 when he left to start his own Temple of Set, which has been in operation ever since.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_Is_Right
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Portions of Might Is Right comprise the vast majority of The Book of Satan in Anton LaVey's The Satanic Bible, the founding document of the Church of Satan.[9]

Though it is no longer included in current printings of The Satanic Bible, early printings included an extensive dedication to various people whom LaVey recognized as influences, including Ragnar Redbeard



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Thanks for your input tahoblue.  These events are happening so often, I am honestly having a hard time keeping up.   I don't think it is an accident that media is constantly highlighting the book.



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yeah since Newsom became gov the calif govt. has gone full tilt bozo  the whole thing seems like a sick setup ...

So we have the witnesses stating that he was spraying bullets ... well it's not likely with that weapon .. so a second shooter with full auto is possible and the perp killed was a distraction 


http://www.differencebetween.net/object/difference-between-ak-47-and-sks/
Difference Between AK 47 and SKS
AK 47 vs SKS

AK 47 and SKS are both assault rifles, which have been widely used the world over.

Both the weapons are Russian made. AK 47 or Automatic Kalashnikov was designed by Mikhail T Kalashnikov. SKS or called as Samozaryadnyi Karabin sistemi Simonova was designed by Sergei Gavrilovich Simonov. SKS was the first to be designed in 1945 and the AK 47 came later in 1947.

When comparing the two assault rifles, while both are gas operated, the SKS is semi automatic. The SKS comes with wooden stock, short gas piston and tilting bolt. On the contrary AK 47 comes with selective fire and has an under folding metal shoulder stash.

The AK 47 has almost replaced SKS in combats. This is because of the ease with which AK 47 guns can be used.

There is also difference of the cartridges used in AK 47 and SKS. In SKS there is a limited number of bullets and are far lower to that of what can be placed in AK 47. Each SKS cartridge has just 10 bullets whereas AK 47 cartridges have about 30 bullets. This is another reason why soldiers prefer AK 47 instead of SKS as they will be able to save reloading time.

When talking of civilian use of these rifles, people are permitted to use SKS. On the other hand, AK 47 is not allowed to be used by individuals and is only meant for military purposes.

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https://www.rt.com/usa/465340-gilroy-shoter-sks-not-ak47/
Feelings over facts: No, Gilroy shooter did not use an AK-47
Published time: 29 Jul, 2019 23:37

Reports that the 19-year-old shooter used an “AK-47 style assault rifle” to kill three people at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in California led to anguished calls for gun control. There was just one problem: no such weapon exists.

The suspect identified as Santino William Legan opened fire at the popular food festival venue on Sunday, fatally striking three people and injuring 15 others. In a press conference on Monday, Gilroy Police Chief Scot Smithee said Legan had used an SKS, which he described as an “AK-47 type assault rifle.”
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Smithee said his officers were “outgunned” but managed to quickly stop the suspect by fatally shooting him.
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Between Smithee’s description of the weapon and witness statements to the media that called it an “assault rifle” and even a “machine gun,” that was enough to start an AK-47 trend on social media – mainly with outspoken liberal activists calling for more gun control.

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Every single one of these arguments was moot, however, since the SKS is not an assault rifle, or in any way related to an AK-47.
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The only similarities between the weapons are the original muzzle break of the SKS that was copied by the AK and the 7.62 caliber ammunition used by both.



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How many of us have books or DVDs in our house that would be considered extreme?   In New York, a bill was proposed to allow the New York State police review your online accounts before approving your gun purchase.  It did not pass or get a hearing, but shooting like these are laying the ground work.

So far the media is showing that this young man only had instagram account and only posted a couple days before the shooting.

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Extremist material was found in a home used by the Gilroy festival shooter, source says

https://cnn.com/2019/07/31/us/gilroy-shooter-extremist-material/index.html

Police found extremist material during a search of a Nevada home they believe the Gilroy Garlic Festival shooter once rented, according to law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.

The seized material pertained to different -- and at times, competing -- political ideologies, and authorities have yet to nail down a clear ideology to which Santino Legan subscribed, the source said.

The news came two days after police searched the same home in Walker Lake, about 100 miles southeast of Reno, and seized several weapons accessories and computer hardware. The home is about a six-hour drive from Gilroy.

As authorities continue to investigate what led Legan to kill a 6-year-old boy, a 13-year-old girl and a man in his 20s while injuring a dozen others, ranging in age from 12 to 69, a mixed picture of the gunman has emerged.



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Garlic festival gunman Santino William Legan likely acted alone: cops

By Tamar Lapin

July 30, 2019

https://nypost.com/2019/07/30/garlic-festival-gunman-santino-william-legan-likely-acted-alone-cops/

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Police on Tuesday said they believe it’s likely that Santino William Legan acted alone when he opened fire at the annual Gilroy Garlic Festival, killing three people and wounding a dozen more.

Investigators are still following up on leads from witnesses who said they spotted a second suspect at the gathering in southern California Sunday — but the probe so far has led them to believe there wasn’t another person involved, Gilroy Police Chief Scot Smithee said in an afternoon press conference.

Smithee said investigators tracked the 19-year-old gunman’s movements around town and that surveillance video shows him visiting various stores alone, “supporting the thought that he acted on his own.”

Investigators found a shotgun in Legan’s car, which was parked northeast of the Christmas Hill Park festival grounds, Smithee said.

They also dug up a bag full of ammunition in a creek near the garlic celebration.

Police say Legan got into the festival via the creek, by cutting a whole in a fenced area. He was shot dead by officers within one minute of opening fire, authorities said.

Legan legally bought the AK-47-style gun he used to carry out his rampage and the shotgun in Nevada, police said.

Authorities said they seized a bulletproof vest, an empty shotgun, a gas mask and empty ammunition boxes from Legan’s Nevada apartment.

Officials also found pamphlets on guns and a sack full of ammo casings at the home, the Mineral County district attorney’s office said Tuesday.

More at the link ---> https://nypost.com/2019/07/30/garlic-festival-gunman-santino-william-legan-likely-acted-alone-cops/



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I am posting this because I remember that some of survivors of Thousand Oak Mass Shooting last year in California also were at Las Vegas in 2017.   What are the odds of this happens twice?

https://businessinsider.com/las-vegas-shooting-surviviors-at-thousand-oaks-shooting-2018-11/

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For the second time in two years, they survived two mass shootings

https://cnn.com/2019/07/31/us/garlic-festival-shooting-survivors-trnd/index.html

'This was a family thing'

Sunday, the brothers attended the Gilroy Garlic Festival when a gunman opened fire. Three people were killed and 12 injured.

Physically the Cook brothers escaped unharmed, however mentally, Christopher told CNN he's been dealing with a wave of emotions.

"You think you're grateful for everything you have until something like this happens," he said.

George told CNN the two experiences were very different for him.

"It wasn't even a thought at all," he said. "This was a family thing."

George said he definitely felt like a target in Vegas, but this time around in Gilroy he didn't feel that as much and he said maybe that's because he's been to many festivals since Vegas.

"Time heals all," he said. "I'm not gonna change what I do or how I enjoy myself."

The brothers were not alone for the garlic festival. They were joined by their friend Alicia Olive, who also survived the Route 91 festival. The three didn't know each other at the time of the Vegas shooting but ended up connecting on Facebook through a support group.

Olive, from Vegas, attended the music festival when she was hired as a bartender. After surviving the mass shooting, she said she fell into a deep depression.

More at the link --> https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/31/us/garlic-festival-shooting-survivors-trnd/index.html



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For California news its pretty much been blackholed already ... the second shooter is vapor now and no explanation as to this perps MO ...  Nor any responsibility the family had  ( the "kid" was 19 what the hell was going on ? )

"Legan has a relative who lives in Fallon, it was reported."  [ WHO ???? ]  Another gun free zone killing spree ...



https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/food-garlic-festival-shooting/index.html
Susan Scutti, CNN
Updated 12:10 PM ET, Tue July 30, 2019

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Contreras described Legan as "white ... under 6 feet. He was wearing tactical gear, had a baseball cap on, sunglasses, and he had a semi-automatic rifle. He was dressed for what he was there to do."

It was difficult to read the expression on his face, she said, but "he seemed very well-versed in what he was doing."

Members of the band, Tin Man, who were performing when the gunshots erupted, said the gunman wore a green shirt with a gray handkerchief tied around his neck. He sprayed shots from side to side, creating pandemonium, the musicians said.

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Though the teen is originally from Gilroy, a city of 48,000 people about 30 miles south of San Jose, police believe he had been living with family in Nevada, Smithee said. It's unclear how long he'd been back in California.

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The FBI searched a residence in Walker Lake, Nevada, "believed to have been used by" Legan in the days prior to the incident,
according to Mineral County District Attorney Sean Rowe. Several police cars were outside the home of Legan's father in Gilroy on Monday morning.
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Witnesses reported seeing a second individual who has not yet been identified, but Smithee cautioned that witnesses have given different accounts so it's unclear if another suspect was involved.
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[ Oh listen to this BS : ]

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"We know there's almost always never a second shooter" in these types of mass killings, said CNN law enforcement analyst Josh Campbell, a former FBI supervisory special agent.
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[ MKUltra at work ? ]

Tanner Eastus, who will be a senior this fall, was at the garlic festival with friends. He concurred with Carman's assessment of the shooter.
Legan "seemed like a normal guy. I don't believe anyone expected anyone to do something like this, especially in Gilroy," he said.

Speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media, the employee said Legan "was a problem kid" who defied authority, smarted off to teachers and picked verbal fights with other students. He also had a spotty attendance record, the educator said.
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Gilroy Unified Schools district had no comment on Legan's school record.

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According to a property manager in Walker Lake, Legan moved into an apartment there in April. He paid one month's rent, but moved out in the middle of the night a few days later. The apartment looked untouched, the property manager said, adding Legan had indicated the location was too remote.
"He was used to internet that works, bars, restaurants," the property manager said, "but here there's no such thing."


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[ It seems to me he was in Nevada just to purchase a gun  or to find a place to practice shooting the weapon ... but there is so little information it's hard to tell ... what was going on ,,, ]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Lake,_Nevada

Walker Lake is an unincorporated town and census-designated place in Mineral County, Nevada, United States. As of the 2010 census, the population of Walker Lake was 275.

it is 12 miles (19 km) south to Hawthorne and 59 miles (95 km) north to Fallon.

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https://iotwreport.com/santino-william-legan-garlic-festival-shooter/
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-Legan, Who Identifies as Being of Italian & Iranian Descent, Posted on Instagram Before the Shooting. The Account Was Removed But Heavy Obtained Screenshots

Legan’s Grandfather Tom Legan, a West Point Graduate, Was the Santa Clara County Supervisor.
He Was Accused & Acquitted of Sexually Assaulting His Daughter. Legan’s Brother is a Noted Boxer

-Witnesses Say They Heard Dozens of Shots & Reported Seeing a Gunman in Camouflage Armed With a Long Rifle


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https://heavy.com/news/2019/07/santino-william-legan-wasr-rifle-banned-california/
Santino William Legan Used WASR-10 Rifle Banned in California: Report

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The Romanian WASR-10 rifle is a semi-automatic version of the Pistol Mitraliera model 1963/1965 configured with a fixed wooden stock and forend. The WASR rifle is a perfect choice for hunters and recreational shooters. It features a 16.25" hard chrome-lined hammer forged barrel with a 1:10" twist, and is chambered in 7.62x39mm. It has an overall length of 34.25" and weighs 7.5 lbs. The WASR-10 comes with one 30-round magazine, side mounted scope rail, and a 1 year manufacturer's warranty. $660.00 Plus tax


Santino William Legan purchased the Semi-Automatic assault rifle that was used to gun down children and others at a food festival legally in Nevada. But when he brought it into California, he was breaking the law, according to a report in the San Francisco Chronicle, citing federal law enforcement sources.

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But it turns out the gun was not a SKS, a Soviet-made weapon, or an AK. It was an WASR-10 semiautomatic rifle. He purchased it on July 9 at Big Mike’s Guns & Ammo in Fallon, Nevada. Legan has a relative who lives in Fallon, it was reported.  [ WHO ???? ]

And while it was a legal purchase there, Legan violated California’s ban on assault weapons when he brought it into the state, the Chronicle reported, citing federal law officials.

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Police have not offered a motive for the shooting. One witness who told reporters they’d come face to face with the gunman and asked why he was doing this was told, “Because I’m really angry.” And Legan posted to Instagram some possible motives, however.


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The Grand father passed away last year ... : heres the Obit :

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?n=thomas-legan&pid=189245059
Thomas Legan
1943 - 2018


Thomas Legan
Jan 19, 1943 - May 31, 2018

Fremont
Tom passed away on 5/31/18 from injuries he sustained 17 years ago. He was surrounded by his siblings. Tom was born in South San Francisco and graduated Class Valedictorian from Castro Valley High School in 1960. After serving as an Exchange Student in the Mexican Military Academy, he graduated with a Bachelor's degree in Engineering from the U.S. Military Academy in West Point NY in 1964. He then served as a Captain on the 38th Parallel in Korea as a Nuclear Weapons Officer and completed his military service in Germany.

As a civilian, Tom was Western Regional Marketing Director for Kaiser Cement and was thereafter appointed and then elected as Santa Clara County Supervisor for two terms. He retired from public service with a vision impairment he sustained during his military service. in 2002 he suffered traffic related injuries that confined him to a wheelchair for the remainder of his life. After two years in the VA Hospital in Palo Alto CA, Tom moved to the Marriott in Newark CA and then to the Carlton Plaza Senior Living Center in Fremont.

Tom was an avid hunter, sports fan, theatre fan and cribbage contestant. Despite his challenges, he was always jocular and made friends with folk from all walks of life. He was insistent that he attend all his West Point class reunions. He never complained and lived life to the fullest. He was an inspiration to all.

Tom is survived by his son Tom Jr and grandchildren Nick, Rosino, Carlo and Santino. He is also survived by his siblings Mike Legan, Pat Jensen, Kathy Kempen and Bill Mohr, his Aunt Alice Kukar and his nephews Jeff and Michael Mohr, Chuck, Scot and Alex Legan, Dan Jensen, David and Nicholas Kempen and his brother-in-law Bernie Kempen, and his sisters-in-law Shelli Mohr and Nancy Legan. Tom's family is sure that he is playing cards right now with his mother Ada (Potato) and eating House of Pizza!

https://www.west-point.org/users/usma1964/25278/
Thomas L. Legan
Cullum: 25278
Class: '64
Cadet Company: I1
Date of Birth: January 19, 1943
Date of Death: May 31, 2018



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Copycat action ?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/breaking-el-paso-shooting-multiple-18823820
El Paso Walmart shooting: Gunman 'armed with AK-47 guns down 18 people at store'

El Paso Police have arrested multiple suspects after the horror mass shooting at Walmart with more than a dozen killed

A horror mass shooting at a Walmart today has seen 18 people gunned down and killed, according to local reports.

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Police say they have received multiple reports there may be more than one shooter.

Video seen on Twitter shows people running out of the shopping centre with their hands up.

Multiple suspects are in custody
and the scene is no longer being considered 'active' by El Paso police.



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Ignore the government's documented history of lying about wars, gun running,  training death squads and importing/exporting cocaine on CIA planes.

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Exclusive: FBI document warns conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html

The FBI for the first time has identified fringe conspiracy theories as a domestic terrorist threat, according to a previously unpublicized document obtained by Yahoo News. (Read the document below.)

The FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019, describes “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists,” as a growing threat, and notes that it is the first such report to do so. It lists a number of arrests, including some that haven’t been publicized, related to violent incidents motivated by fringe beliefs.

The document specifically mentions QAnon, a shadowy network that believes in a deep state conspiracy against President Trump, and Pizzagate, the theory that a pedophile ring including Clinton associates was being run out of the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant (which didn’t actually have a basement).

“The FBI assesses these conspiracy theories very likely will emerge, spread, and evolve in the modern information marketplace, occasionally driving both groups and individual extremists to carry out criminal or violent acts,” the document states. It also goes on to say the FBI believes conspiracy theory-driven extremists are likely to increase during the 2020 presidential election cycle.

The FBI said another factor driving the intensity of this threat is “the uncovering of real conspiracies or cover-ups involving illegal, harmful, or unconstitutional activities by government officials or leading political figures.” The FBI does not specify which political leaders or which cover-ups it was referring to.

More at the link ---> https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html



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Two other shootings - El Paso Texas and Dayton Ohio
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At least 9 dead, 16 injured in mass shooting in downtown Dayton, Ohio: Police

https://news.yahoo.com/active-shooter-incident-being-investigated-dayton-ohio-police-075400231--abc-news-topstories.html

At least 9 dead, 16 injured in mass shooting in downtown Dayton, Ohio: Police originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

At least nine people are dead and more than a dozen wounded after someone opened fire in downtown Dayton, Ohio, according to police.

In addition, the suspected shooter was shot and killed by responding officers. Police said they are only aware of one shooter.

Authorities responded quickly to the shooting, first reported at 1 a.m., and said police are regularly present in the crowded district popular with tourists and locals.

More at the link --> https://news.yahoo.com/active-shooter-incident-being-investigated-dayton-ohio-police-075400231--abc-news-topstories.html



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Ignore the government's documented history of lying about wars, gun running,  training death squads and importing/exporting cocaine on CIA planes.

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Exclusive: FBI document warns conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html

The FBI for the first time has identified fringe conspiracy theories as a domestic terrorist threat, according to a previously unpublicized document obtained by Yahoo News. (Read the document below.)

The FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019, describes “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists,” as a growing threat, and notes that it is the first such report to do so. It lists a number of arrests, including some that haven’t been publicized, related to violent incidents motivated by fringe beliefs.

The document specifically mentions QAnon, a shadowy network that believes in a deep state conspiracy against President Trump, and Pizzagate, the theory that a pedophile ring including Clinton associates was being run out of the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant (which didn’t actually have a basement).

“The FBI assesses these conspiracy theories very likely will emerge, spread, and evolve in the modern information marketplace, occasionally driving both groups and individual extremists to carry out criminal or violent acts,” the document states. It also goes on to say the FBI believes conspiracy theory-driven extremists are likely to increase during the 2020 presidential election cycle.

The FBI said another factor driving the intensity of this threat is “the uncovering of real conspiracies or cover-ups involving illegal, harmful, or unconstitutional activities by government officials or leading political figures.” The FBI does not specify which political leaders or which cover-ups it was referring to.

More at the link ---> https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html

The document sources Snopes, Wikipedia, New York Times, things like that as research. I was required to do better research for high school papers. The FBI's a joke. With guns.
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Classmates say Dayton gunman had a 'hit list' in high school
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Classmates say Dayton gunman had a 'hit list' in high school

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

As a high school student, the gunman in the Dayton, Ohio, massacre had a "hit list" of classmates he wanted to kill or hurt, according to four former students who said they were told by school officials they were on the list.

Spencer Brickler said a counselor at Bellbrook High School told him that he and his sister were on Connor Betts' hit list. Brickler said he was riding on a school bus when he saw Betts getting escorted off by officers who were investigating the threats.

"He was kind of dark and depressive in high school," said Brickler, who recalled the incident occurring about nine years ago when he was a freshman. He said he had no idea what prompted Betts, then a sophomore, to put him or his sister on the list.

The information has taken on new significance now that Betts has been identified as the gunman who killed nine people early Sunday morning in a popular nightlife district in downtown Dayton, authorities said. Police officers on patrol nearby immediately responded and killed Betts less than a minute after he opened fire, authorities said.

In response to CNN's inquiries about the hit list, Bellbrook-Sugarcreek Schools Superintendent Douglas A. Cozad said, "At this point, I can confirm that Connor Betts was a student at Bellbrook-Sugarcreek Local Schools his entire school career and graduated from Bellbrook High School in 2013.

"Since he has not been a student here for over six years, we are still gathering additional information and will release it as soon as we can," Cozad said.

Another former classmate, who asked not to be identified out of concerns for his privacy, also recalled being summoned to a school administrator's office and being told he was "number one" on the list of students Betts wanted to kill.

He said the list was separated into two columns: a "kill list" for boys and a "rape list" for girls.

More at the link --->  Classmates say Dayton gunman had a 'hit list' in high school
 

Cloudfare terminates 8chan
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Cloudfare is shutting down 8chan.  2 articles below.   

Independent forums outside of the Google/Amazon/Facebook grid are more important than ever.   

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8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

By April Glaser
Aug 04, 2019

https://slate.com/technology/2019/08/el-paso-8chan-4chan-mass-shootings-manifesto.html

Three white nationalist shooters appear to have posted manifestos on the same troll forum. Here’s how 8chan became a meme-filled refuge for hate.

 Late Saturday morning, a young white man entered a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, and opened fire with an AK-47-style rifle, killing 20 people and injuring 26 more. Police apprehended the suspected shooter, a 21-year-old man from Allen, Texas. It didn’t take long for internet researchers to find a four-page manifesto posted less than an hour before the violence, a document that El Paso’s police chief appeared to later confirm was being examined by officials. The document had been uploaded to the notorious, unmoderated message board 8chan at 10:15 a.m. local time, and it included a request: “Do your part and spread this brothers!”

In the anti-immigrant screed, the author describes plans to perpetrate a mass shooting against the Latino people he believes are invading the United States, the weapons he will use to do it, and his white nationalist beliefs. Soon after it was first posted on 8chan, the manifesto could be found on 4chan, another message board with scant rules about what people can or cannot share. And not long after that, it was circulating as images on Twitter and Facebook and easily findable in a Google image search. Clearly someone got the author’s message.

More at the link ---> https://slate.com/technology/2019/08/el-paso-8chan-4chan-mass-shootings-manifesto.html


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'Enough is enough': Cloudfare terminates 8chan, an online meeting place for 'extremist hate'

Published 8:49 p.m. ET Aug. 4, 2019

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/04/8-chan-third-mass-shooting-2019-linked-webs-darkest-reaches/1917135001/

The online message board 8chan, which has been linked to three mass shootings in 2019, will be terminated, Cloudfare announced late Sunday night, just hours after the site's founder called for its end.

Cloudfare will cut off services for 8chan at midnight PDT, CEO Matthew Prince said in a statement, though he noted that another network provider could bring 8chan back online. That's what happened in 2017, when Cloudfare booted The Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi message board.

"The rationale is simple: they have proven themselves to be lawless and that lawlessness has caused multiple tragic deaths," Prince said. "Even if 8chan may not have violated the letter of the law in refusing to moderate their hate-filled community, they have created an environment that revels in violating its spirit."

During media interviews earlier Sunday, 8chan founder Fredrick Brennan called for the imageboard 's end.

More at the link --->  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/04/8-chan-third-mass-shooting-2019-linked-webs-darkest-reaches/1917135001/

 

Re: Mass shootings - (El Paso, Texas) (Dayton, Ohio) (Gilroy, Calfornia)
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From the man who proclaimed that the "war on your 2nd amendment rights are over".   The NRA will either be silent or compromise like they did with bump stocks.   

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1158330512341164032

We cannot let those killed in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, die in vain. Likewise for those so seriously wounded. We can never forget them, and those many who came before them. Republicans and Democrats must come together and get strong background checks, perhaps marrying....

3:54 AM - 5 Aug 2019


....this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform. We must have something good, if not GREAT, come out of these two tragic events!
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TAPS (Threat Assessment, Prevention, and Safety) Act
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H.R. 838, the Threat Assessment, Prevention, and Safety (TAPS) Act

https://babin.house.gov/taps/

Whether it’s a shooting, stabbing, weaponized vehicle, or bombing, mass casualty events are occurring too often. These horrific tragedies are impacting our nation indiscriminately. Americans want a solution – I believe we’ve found one.

For decades, a process to identify, investigate, assess, and mitigate threats has been in place to counter targeted violence. Pioneered by the U.S. Secret Service, behavioral threat assessment and management has proven successful in protecting our presidents and foreign dignitaries. If this process works to protect the president, elected officials, foreign dignitaries, and even celebrities, why aren’t we using it to protect our children and local communities?


The TAPS Act:

• Will identify a behavioral threat assessment and management process that can be adapted and used across the nation while recognizing the unique needs of different communities

• Will provide States the training, resources, and support needed to stand up community-based, multidisciplinary behavioral threat assessment and management units

• Recognizes that the behavioral threat assessment and management concept should become part of the culture and fabric of contemporary law enforcement

• Urges that this is a matter of national security – if we act now and work together, we can save lives


Link to the bill ---> https://babin.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hr_838_bill_text.pdf

 

Re: Mass shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in California
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wow the mass mind kontrol media teams have really been working overtime
No talk of the first amendment let alone the second ...  Do we really know if these "mani's" were from the perps? or just dumped out there ?
If you want to eliminate independent Message boards  Gee, look what happens ?
 


https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/el-paso-shootings-free-speech-curbs/
We Should Fear Free-Speech Curbs More Than Exposure to Racist Manifestos
By John Fund
August 4, 2019 8:46 PM

People can decide for themselves what to make of hateful words, whether in Mein Kampf or a murderer’s manifesto.
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We’ve already learned that the shooter who killed nine people outside a Dayton, Ohio bar, early this morning described himself as a “pro-Satan “leftist,” and that he was a registered Democrat who supported Elizabeth Warren and hated President Trump and law enforcement. Who knows what else we may learn about the complexity of his background and thinking?
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Indeed, Mein Kampf, Hitler’s infamous manifesto, is freely available in most countries. Even German authorities recently legalized its publication, saying that people needed to understand the nature of evil and how it expressed itself. Restricting access to the rantings of mass killers only makes their writings a form of “forbidden fruit” — all the more sought after because they are censored.
 

Trump Announces Support for Red Flag Laws
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Trump Announces Support for Red Flag Laws

https://thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-trump-calls-for-a-national-red-flag-law/

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He said “We must seek real, bipartisan solutions…we must do a better job of acting on early warning signs.”

He then said that we must . . .

Work with social media companies to detect mass shooters before they strike.
Stop the glorification of violence, including gruesome video games. Cultural change is hard, he said.
We must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals to give people treatment and, when necessary, involuntary confinement.
Enact red flag laws with due process.
Use the death penalty for those convicted of mass murder.

In closing he noted that his administration has enacted Fix NICS legislation and outlawed bump stocks. Despite earlier tweets that appeared to indicate support for “stronger background checks,” he didn’t mention so-called universal background checks. That may be due to the fact that virtually every mass shooter in history has purchased the gun(s) used legally.

The big news here for gun owners is the President’s support for a so-called red flag laws or gun violence restraining orders. These laws allow firearms to be taken from individuals who are deemed to be a danger to themselves or others.

The problem with these laws is that they rarely provide due process protections for the targets of the orders. Depending on the language, family, friends or even co-workers can ask for confiscation and the gun owner frequently isn’t informed until they get a knock on their door from police.

It’s only after the fact that they can argue for the return of their firearms in a subsequent hearing. The devil is in the details as to how these laws have been written in various states around the country.



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Re: Mass shootings - (El Paso, Texas) (Dayton, Ohio) (Gilroy, Calfornia)
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right red flag laws get a boost ... and Trump is acting as false opposition

https://lauraloomer.us/2019/08/05/dayton-shooter-satanist-member-of-antifa-despised-ice-interacted-with-left-wing-media-outlets/
Dayton Shooter: Satanist, Member of ANTIFA, Despised ICE, Interacted With Left-Wing Media Outlets
26 mins ago Haley Kennington

It should come as no surprise that the social media accounts of Dayton, Ohio, mass shooter and self-proclaimed Satan worshiper Connor Betts, were whitewashed from the internet shortly after the coward gunned down his own sister, killed 9 and injured 26 others early Sunday morning.

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The shooter’s now deactivated Twitter bio read, “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.

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One of the last tweets liked by the mass shooter was of an “Antifa domestic terrorist” who called for the death of Jack Posobiec. Both Betts’s alleged Twitter account, and that of which threatened Posobiec have since been deactivated.



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Re: Mass shootings - (El Paso, Texas) (Dayton, Ohio) (Gilroy, Calfornia)
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/01/16/illegal-alien-cop-killer-on-his-crimes-i-wish-i-had-killed-more-of-the-motherfkers-n2435401
Illegal Alien On His Police Killings: ‘I Wish I Had Killed More Of The Motherf**kers’
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Luis Bracamontes, an illegal alien who had been arrested and deported multiple times in Arizona, went on a crime spree in Sacramento that ended with two police officers killed..

“I wish I had killed more of the mother-------,” he boasted to the jury as prosecutor Rod Norgaard described the 2014 crime spree.


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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-05/mood-in-latino-community-in-wake-of-shootings-in-el-paso-and-gilroy
For Latinos, El Paso is a devastating new low in a Trump era marked by hate
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Miguel Luna was cooking eggs and bacon for his family Sunday when his wife told him of the tragedy in El Paso. He read the manifesto calling the attack “a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas.”

“I felt physical pain throughout my body, like food poisoning,” said Luna, a community organizer from Westlake who focuses on environmental issues.


As details about the victims came out in the news, he felt a sense of threat, fear and rejection in a country his mother fought hard to reach after she left Colombia decades ago. Luna believed that the true weapon behind the violence in El Paso was President Trump.

“His words are the ammunition and people of color are his target,” he said. “And he’s not ceasing, and it’s all very methodical and directed.”



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Re: Mass shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in California
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It is interesting that in this and the gilroy case ,,, the perp is taken out quickly ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7320897/Police-release-footage-moment-Dayton-gunman-shot-dead-cops-chases-screaming-passersby.html
Moment brave cops 'saved hundreds' by killing Dayton gunman Connor Betts, 24, within 30 seconds of rampage as he shoots at screaming revelers with assault rife, killing nine - including his own sister
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Because officers were in the area when the shooting started, they killed Betts in 'less than a minute,' authorities said.



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Re: Mass shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in California
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Earlier ...
Oh remember there is an active death penalty in Texas .... nothing is really known about any of the El paso ... multiple shooters reports ... gone ...


https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/crime/2019/07/24/el-paso-serial-killer-police-department-debunks-fears-spread-social-media/1819056001/
El Paso Police Department: There is no serial killer, rumors spread on social media
Maria Cortes Gonzalez and Daniel Borunda, El Paso Times Published 2:36 p.m. MT July 24, 2019
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A El Paso Police Department spokesman said recent missing person cases and the murder of a woman are not related.

“There is a no relation between any of those cases," police spokesman Sgt. Enrique Carrillo said. "There is no serial killer case. Most things on the Internet should not be believed without verifying through a credible source."

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https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/patrick-crusius/
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Public records show Crusius’ last known address was his family’s home in Allen, Texas, about 30 minutes outside of Dallas and more than 9 hours away from El Paso. It is not clear if he has any connections to the El Paso area. Crusius appeared to have lived with his parents and also has a twin sister and older brother, according to public records. Crusius’ family has not commented about the shooting.



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Re: Mass shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in California
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https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/05/supreme-court-gun-cases/
Second Amendment Looms Over Supreme Court After Back-To-Back Massacres
Kevin Daley
Supreme Court correspondent
August 05, 2019 9:23 PM ET

The Supreme Court will encounter an array of Second Amendment issues in its upcoming term, after a pair of bloody weekend shootings left over 30 dead in a matter of hours.
The justices are currently slated to hear just one gun rights case at present, but decisions on other petitions could come by autumn.
Those disputes include state laws controlling the issuance of public carry licenses, and a lawsuit against a gun manufacturer.


Gun rights activists celebrate the Supreme Court’s D.C. v. Heller decision on June 26, 2008. (Tim Sloan/AFP/Getty Images)



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