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Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia

Started by Al Bundy, Sep 27, 2020, 02:35:03 PM

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EvadingGrid

It was the leading story on RT News this morning.



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Azerbaijan And Armenia's Forces: The Numbers



As of September 24th, Azerbaijan and Armenia have introduced martial law, and the situation is nearing all-out conflict over the Nagorno Karabakh region.

Below is a brief comparison of the capabilities of both countries.

According to Global Firepower, Armenia is ranked 111th out of 138 countries considered for the annual GFP review 2020.

Azerbaijan, on the other hand sits at 64th position.

In terms of population, Azerbaijan has a population more than 3 times larger, sitting at 9.9 million, compared to Armenia's 3 million.

The available manpower for Azerbaijan sits at 5 million, while Armenia's is at 1.7 million.

The active personnel of the militaries, however, is quite comparable.

For Azerbaijan it sits at 67,000, while for Armenia it is 45,000. However, Baku has almost twice as many reserve personnel sitting at 307 thousand, compared to Yerevan's 171 thousand.

The defense budget gap is massive, with Azerbaijan's sitting at upwards of $3.2 billion, while Armenia's is at upwards of $225 million.

In terms of naval capability, Armenia has no navy, but it is unlikely that such assets would play any role in a possible conflict. Azerbaijan has 4 submarines, 1 frigate, and 12 patrol crafts.

In terms of air power, the total aircraft Armenia has at its disposal sits at 64.

Out of it 11 are attack aircraft, 18 are transport aircraft.

In total, Armenia has 42 helicopters, out of which 15 are attack types.

In comparison, Azerbaijan sits at 135 aircraft. It has 18 fighter jets and interceptors, 29 attack aircraft and 64 transport aircraft.

It has 93 helicopters, out of which 17 are attack types.

Finally, in terms of ground forces, Azerbaijan has 1,451 armored fighting vehicles, 187 units of self-propelled artillery, 227 units of towed artillery, 162 rocket projectors and 570 tanks.

Armenia, on the other hand, has 748 armored fighting vehicles, 38 units of self-propelled artillery, 150 units of towed artillery and 68 rocket projectors. It has 110 tanks.

In pure numbers, Azerbaijan greatly outclasses the Armenian military capability, in addition to Turkey allegedly deploying Syrian militants to assist, as well as providing it with Bayraktar TB-2 strike UAVs, and it also operating various Israeli types.

Russia, and likely Iran, are potential allies that would likely provide assistance to Armenia in the case of a larger conflict.



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Quick Guide



Armenia's - Azerbaijan's
SU-30 - VERSUS  -  second hand ex-Ukraine MiG-29
T-72 (137)   - VERSUS  -  T-72 (470)
T-80 (20)     - VERSUS  -  T-90 (100)



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Both sides are not only claiming that they are gaining an upper hand in the war, but also accuse each other of using foreign mercenaries and terrorists. YPG v Syrian National Army


Turkey's "Syrian National Army" Confirms Deployment Of Its Members In Azerbaijan

"General" Ziyad Haji Ubeyd, one of the leaders of the pro-Turkish coalition of militant groups known as the Syrian National Army (SNA) confirmed that the group had sent its fighters to Azerbaijan.

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"Fighters have to go to conflict in Azerbaijan to provide for their families due to bad economic conditions. "The economic situation in Afrin, Sere Kaniye and other regions is very bad and they cannot support their families," Ubeyd told in an interview with Rudaw TV.

"We are ready to fight anywhere in Turkey's national interests and security. We're defending our interests to realize our goals."


The SNA commander claimed that there are 70,000 SNA members that are ready to participate in Turkish operations anywhere around the world. Ubeyd emphasized that they are ready to go to support the Turkish Army in Azerbaijan or wherever it is, if requested.

Earlier, Armenia claimed that at least 4,000 members of Turkish-backed Syrian militant groups were deployed in Azerbaijan.






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Quote from: Al Bundy on Oct 02, 2020, 05:16:38 PM
"Sultan" Erdogan vows struggle until end of Karabakh occupation !!! >:( >:(

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/azerbaijan-front-line/erdogan-vows-struggle-until-end-of-karabakh-occupation/1993513



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Not good that Turkey & Erdogan want to be involved.



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Al Bundy

Quote from: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2020, 04:33:16 PM
Not good that Turkey & Erdogan want to be involved.



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EG, it is bad.
Erdogan are think for himself that is a Sultan and they want to revise Ottoman Empire.
Turks shot down Russian air plane (!), then from Russia buy S-300 Air-defense System (!), Ghia Sofia no more museum in Istanbul, Nagorno Karabakh then retreat on Balkans ( for now there are MIT intelligence operation ).










President of Serbia A. Vucic and President of Turkey Erdogan in Novi Pazar, Serbia. In that city and around leave many Muslims.

East of Cyprus still are on occupation of Turkish Army. Maybe, one day, "Sultan" will ordered Turkish Army :"liberate" rest of island Cyprus.
I think that Turkey is so strong they could tell USA "Please leave US military base Injirlik ".



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Armenian Patriarch of Jerusalem calls on Netanyahu to stop arms sale to Azerbaijan

Siranush Ghazanchyan October 5, 2020, 14:04

https://en.armradio.am/2020/10/05/armenian-patriarch-of-jerusalem-calls-on-netanyahu-to-stop-arms-sale-to-azerbaijan/



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Why does Erdogan support Azerbaijan?

Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan – I have already said that this is a consequence of Turkey's imperialist policy pursued by Erdogan. And I think that most likely the task is set to get rid of independent state of Azerbaijan, which will be absorbed by Turkey.

Thus, when I talk about the policy of genocide against Armenians, I want to emphasize that it is not just an expression of historical hatred towards Armenians. The problem is that the Armenians in the South Caucasus are the last impediment on imperialistic Turkey's way to north, south-east an east. Because Turkey's imperialist policy goes much further than the South Caucasus. Let us look at Turkey's activity in the Mediterranean, Libya, the Middle East, Iraq and Syria.

I want to emphasize that in my opinion, Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia are at the forefront of civilization today. If the international community fails to consider the situation accurately, Europe will have to see Turkey in to Vienna.

https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/armenien-premier-paschinjan-tuerkei-will-den-genozid-an-armeniern-fortsetzen-73236824.bild.html



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Nagorno-Karabakh: Armenia and Azerbaijan announce new truce plan ?

Warring parties say ceasefire over disputed territory to take effect from midnight local time



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Armenian MP Mikayel Zolyan told Global News the escalating conflict has all the makings of a "global catastrophe" that could lead to a third world war.



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Armenia has agreed to a cessation of hostilities with Azerbaijan effective immediately, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan announced on Facebook early on November 10 Yerevan time, calling the terms "unspeakably painful for me personally and for our people."

"I made that decision as a result of an in-depth analysis of the military situation and the assessment of people who know the situation best. Also based on the belief that this is the best possible solution to the current situation," Pashinyan's statement said, according to an English translation published by Civilnet.

Armenia has been steadily losing territory for weeks. On November 8, Azerbaijan announced it had retaken Shusha, the city Azerbaijanis regard as their historical and cultural center in Nagorno-Karabakh, which appears to have been the critical loss forcing the Armenians to accept defeat.

The agreement, signed by Pashinyan, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev, and Russian President Vladimir Putin, calls for Russian peacekeepers to patrol the Lachin Corridor connecting Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and for Armenia to withdraw from other contested territories outside Nagorno-Karabakh.

It said that Armenia would cede control over the Kelbajar region by November 15 and Aghdam by November 20. Armenians will withdraw from Lachin, except for a five-kilometer-wide corridor, by December 1. It did not directly address the status of the parts of Nagorno-Karabakh proper that Armenian forces continued to hold, including the regional capital, Stepanakert.

The agreement also provides for some sort of corridor between "mainland" Azerbaijan and its exclave of Nakhchivan, but it was not clear if that would involve any transfer of territory. Russia and Armenia would "guarantee the security of transport links," the agreement said.

Russian peacekeepers will total just under 2,000, and were flown in from Ulyanovsk. They began entering Lachin at 6 am local time, Russian media reported.

In a speech following the signing of the agreement, Aliyev said that Turkey also would play a role in peacekeeping, but there was no mention of Turkey in the formal agreement.

"The fifth paragraph of the statement reads: 'A peacekeeping center for ceasefire control is being established to increase the effectiveness of monitoring the parties' compliance with the agreements.' I can say that Russian and Turkish military will work in this center. So, Turkey will officially play a role in the future settlement of the conflict and monitoring the ceasefire," Aliyev said.

https://eurasianet.org/armenian-pm-war-is-over

P.S. Also in capital of Armenia are anti-government protests



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EvadingGrid

Armenia is now rioting over peace deal.



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Al Bundy

Quote from: EvadingGrid on Nov 10, 2020, 03:51:46 AM
Armenia is now rioting over peace deal.



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Yes, I heard on TV. Without pro- russian government in Erevan , Armenians will loose not only territory Nagorno Karabakh. There will be another exodus like one in XX century.



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Al Bundy

Second war > day by day













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What really happened in NagornoKarabakh (Artsakh )
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SyrianGirlpartisan


Deep Analysis of the Conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh(Artsakh) with Syrian Armenian journalists Kevork Almassian who also has updates on his channel.













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Russian Peacekeepers in Nagorno Karabakh













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Exodus of Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh  :'(













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Celebration in Azerbeijan  :(













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Azerbaijan soldier screams from the Armenian Orthodox Church: " Allahu Akbar !!!" ( God is strongest ).  >:( >:(



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poseidonlost

You know, I have some words to say about all this, but it'd be... misunderstood.

How about this, so much for Russia being the arbiter of Christianity in the east...  ::)

And remember forever, the world cared more about Harambe...  >:(



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"Castles made of sand, slips into the sea, eventually." - Jimi Hendrix

poseidonlost

Fuck the Turks

8)

War - System of a Down













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"Castles made of sand, slips into the sea, eventually." - Jimi Hendrix