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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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Furious Brexit Party MEP slams Speaker Bercow's secret talks with EU Parliament boss - DISGRACEFUL!

House of Commons Speaker John Bercow held a secret meeting with EU Parliament President David Sassoli who said the European Union will back a Brexit extension if voters get another referendum. David Sassoli said the pair “fully agreed” when they held their chummy talks in London – enraging Brexiteers who called the meeting “disgraceful”. In the European Parliament, Brexit Party MEP Belinda de Lucy accused Mr Sassoli of “interfering” with British politics. She said: “Let me be very clear Mr Sassoli, you have no right to go and speak with the UK Speaker having conversations that are directly interfering into our domestic politics.  It exposes your intentions to intervene at all levels to stop Brexit, it is immoral, shame on you.













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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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‘Baseless Propaganda’: Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party Blasts EU Resolution Alleging 'Russian Meddling’






'The resolution re-hashed familiar ‘Russian meddling’ accusations that Moscow has categorically rejected. Britain has been sounding the Russian fear-mongering alarm the loudest; last year, London succeeded in getting Russian diplomats expelled from dozens of countries in a bid to seek solidarity over its Skripal allegations.

Nigel Farage and his Brexit Party have dismissed a European Parliament resolution on countering foreign election meddling and alleged Russian interference as “baseless propaganda”.

The motion, put to the European Parliament on Thursday, urged European institutions to set a “detailed strategy to counteract Russian disinformation strategies” and called for an upgrade of the EU’s anti-propaganda taskforce, which would make it a permanent structure within the European Eternal Action Service.

The non-binding resolution <a href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/B-9-2019-0108_EN.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">also accused Facebook[/url] of not following up on most of the MEPs’ demands to prevent a repeat of the Cambridge Analytica data scandal, when the personal information of 87 million users was harvested by a political consultancy.

Brexit Party MEPs have cast their votes against the motion. "The Brexit Party exists to remove the United Kingdom from the EU and ensure we are democratically governed. We will always vote against more power and spending by the EU,” said MEP David Bull.

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“We won't take lessons in democracy from parties which have packed together in order to frustrate the Brexit vote, the largest democratic act in recent British history.  Stories of Russian interference have been exposed as baseless propaganda and scare stories used to shut down debate. As a party of free speech, we oppose shutting down debate.”


The British government <a href="https://sputniknews.com/europe/201612141048529047-brexit-russia-interference/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">has repeatedly accused Russia[/url] of election meddling and interfering in the 2016 Brexit referendum through “troll factories” spreading fake news, but has failed to provide any evidence to date. Russia has consistently dismissed the allegations, which <a href="https://sputniknews.com/europe/201906241076031411-no-evidence-russia-meddled-in-brexit-via-facebook/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">have not been corroborated[/url] by the major social media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter.

It’s curious that Britain itself <a href="https://sputniknews.com/trend/anonymous_integrity_initiative_2018/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">was financing a shadowy project[/url] interfering in the domestic affairs of European countries and seeking to damage Russia’s relations with other nations under the guise of “defending democracy against disinformation”.

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Brexit Party MEP Claire Fox told the European Parliament that “Brexit voters didn't vote because of Russian bots or Facebook – but because we believe in sovereignty” and that the EU was the one to interfere in elections and referendums.'


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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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Corbyn unlikely to support Brexit deal between Johnson and EU






'Jeremy Corbyn says he is unlikely to support a deal agreed between Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the EU.

The Labour Party leader was speaking during Sky News show Sophy Ridge on Sunday when he said: "I think the problem areas are of regulation and deregulation which come from whatever trade arrangement there is with Europe and the wider world but also perhaps very seriously is the Irish border issue.

"And if it creates a border down the Irish Sea rather than on the Irish border itself, I can see that bringing problems."

He also said he would "caution" MPs against backing a confirmatory referendum on any deal.

He said: "I think many in parliament, not necessarily Labour MPs but others, might be more inclined to support it even if they don't really agree with the deal.

"But I would caution them on this because my view would be that I would want a deal that resembles the five pillars we've put forward and that obviously would command support and obviously does have wide support within the Labour Party and the trade unions."

Mr Corbyn said: "I want us to protect those workers' rights, consumer and environmental rights, I want us to have that trade relationship with Europe.'

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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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‘Baseless Propaganda’: Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party Blasts EU Resolution Alleging 'Russian Meddling’





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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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'It has to be done now': Jean-Claude Juncker says the EU will NOT offer a Brexit delay beyond Halloween if MPs reject Boris Johnson's new deal that ditches the hated Irish backstop






'MPs face a moment of truth on Brexit after Jean-Claude Juncker said the EU will not offer an extension beyond Halloween if the Commons torpedoes Boris Johnson's new deal.

The commission president turned up the heat on critics of the PM's newly-sealed plan by indicating they will have a stark choice between this package - or No Deal.

The dramatic intervention came as Mr Johnson insisted 'now is the moment to get Brexit done' after he signed off the blueprint, which deletes the hated Irish backstop.

The premier has taken an extraordinary gamble by signing off the agreement despite fierce opposition from the DUP - who publicly spelled out a laundry list of objections and accused him of risking the break-up of the UK.

The bold move tees up a massive showdown in the House of Commons on Saturday, with Mr Johnson hoping EU leaders will help him at a Brussels summit tonight by declaring that it is this package or No Deal on October 31.

Mr Juncker hinted that could be the outcome when he told reporters there will be no 'prolongation'. Asked if he believed Parliament would approve the deal, he said: 'I hope it will, I'm convinced it will. It has to.'

Read more: 'It has to be done now': Jean-Claude Juncker says the EU will NOT offer a Brexit delay beyond Halloween if MPs reject Boris Johnson's new deal that ditches the hated Irish backstop


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Nigel Farage blasts Boris Johnson's new Brexit deal and says he would rather DELAY leaving the EU again

* The Brexit Party leader lashed out at the compromise hammered out by the PM
* Said he would prefer an extension and 'chance of a general election' than deal
* Mr Farage pushed for alliance 'that would win a big majority in Parliament'

By David Wilcock, Whitehall Correspondent For Mailonline
Published: 13:45, 17 October 2019
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7584017/Nigel-Farage-says-DELAY-Brexit-leave-Boris-Johnsons-new-deal.html

. . . . .  Mr Farage told Sky News today: 'Look I would much rather we had an extension and a chance of a general election than accept this dreadful new EU treaty.' . . . . .



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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening - Boris & Junker announce New Deal
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Reaction as MPs back Brexit deal delay






If MPs support it, it would provisionally back Boris Johnson's deal but withhold official approval and force a delay to Brexit until all the relevant legislation implementing a withdrawal agreement has been passed.'



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Boris shoves the Ben Act down the toilet with 3 Letters - BREAKING
« Reply #811 on: Oct 19, 2019, 05:39:58 pm »
 

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Boris shoves the Ben Act down the toilet with 3 Letters

Boris Johnson sends the EU THREE letters:
One (not signed by him) asks to delay Brexit beyond Oct 31, the second makes clear the first is from Parliament - not the Government, and the third urges Brussels NOT to grant an extension

* The first was letter demanded by Benn Act, which asks the EU to delay Brexit
* Second was covering letter saying the first was from Parliament not Government
* Third was from PM disavowing first letter making clear he does not want delay
* In it, the Prime Minister said any further hold-up would be 'deeply corrosive'

By Glen Owen Political Editor and Harry Cole Deputy Political Editor For The Mail On Sunday
Published: 22:01 BST, 19 October 2019
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7592073/Boris-Johnson-sends-THREE-letters-EU-one-urge-Brussels-NOT-grant-delay.html

Late tonight – just before the midnight deadline stipulated by 'wrecker' MPs – a total of three letters were due to be sent from the Government to Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council. The first was the letter demanded by the Benn Act, which asks the EU to delay Brexit beyond the October 31 deadline – but not signed by Boris Johnson – using the exact wording specified in the legislation.

The second was a covering letter, written by Sir Tim Barrow, the UK's Permanent Representative in Brussels, which made clear that the first letter was from Parliament, not the Government.

And the third was a letter from Mr Johnson, which was also sent to the leaders of the other 27 EU nations, in which he disavowed the first letter by making clear that he does not want any delay to Brexit.

In it, the PM said any further hold-up would be 'deeply corrosive', and would 'damage the interests of the UK and our EU partners'. He said UK would continue to ratify the deal and urged Brussels to do the same.


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Brexit: Speaker may block PM's push for Commons vote on his deal
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Brexit: Speaker may block PM's push for Commons vote on his deal






'Boris Johnson is set for a showdown with Commons Speaker John Bercow today, with the prime minister expected to push for a so-called "meaningful vote" on his Brexit deal.

It is possible that Mr Bercow could block the government's move, and rule that the vote cannot be repeated so soon because it effectively happened on Saturday.

Last week, the Speaker had told MPs that the "apparent purpose" of Monday's vote was to "invalidate or obviate" the effect of an amendment by Sir Oliver Letwin, which means that MPs will withhold their approval for Mr Johnson's deal unless and until he has passed all necessary legislation to implement it.

If Mr Bercow does prevent Mr Johnson from having a meaningful vote in the Commons, the focus will switch to the government bringing its Withdrawal Agreement Bill before MPs later today - with a vote on its second reading tomorrow.

Ministers have insisted that they have the numbers to push this agreement through the Commons, but the arithmetic in parliament appears to be very tight.'

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Parliament versus the people: Yet another vote to delay Brexit
« Reply #813 on: Oct 21, 2019, 01:42:15 am »
 

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Parliament versus the people: Yet another vote to delay Brexit
http://www.rt.com/op-ed/471322-brexit-vote-delay-chaos/





'By voting for the Letwin wrecking amendment, Parliament is trying to force yet another Brexit delay. If politicians weren’t already unpopular enough, they’ll be even more so after today’s debacle.

There is substantial public support for Boris Johnson’s deal, for leaving on October 31. A YouGov poll found that, by 41 to 24 percent, Britain wanted Parliament to pass the deal and leave the European Union. That might well have played on the minds of Remain-supporting MPs in strongly Leave constituencies. If the deal had been put to a genuine vote, it might well have passed. The atmosphere was tense.

At first, it had seemed that the mood of Parliament was different today. Parliament had not sat on a Saturday for 37 years, since the Falklands War. Amongst the bluff and bluster, the grandstanding and soundbites, something had changed. The numbers were tight. MPs were listening, trying to persuade each other in their speeches.

Then, Oliver Letwin’s wrecking amendment passed, in an attempt to force an indefinite delay to the deal. The masks slipped, the nastiness was back, and we were back to the usual circus. Conservative MPs walked out of the chamber in disgust, refusing to take part in the sham. As the Government announced, we’ll be back to the same debate on Monday. We keep going round in circles, but nothing is ever delivered. Ever-more-arcane Parliamentary procedures are being used.

Parliament had an opportunity today to bring much of the nation back together, but it declined to do so. It pitted itself against the people: poll after poll has shown that people want Brexit to be done. For all the Remainers talking about a hypothetical second referendum that couldn’t take place until the summer of next year, the reality is that when people are asked about what should happen now, they say we should get on with it. Polling about practical questions matter more than the hypothetical ones.'



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'We have the numbers': Boris Johnson
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'We have the numbers':
Boris Johnson claims he has enough support to get his Brexit deal through as 15 Labour 'stand ready to back him'

* PM plans late Commons sittings as he tries to pass Withdrawal Agreement Bill
* Usually takes weeks for legislation to go through all stages in Commons, Lords
* But ministers desperate to get deal into law ahead of an EU summit next Monday
* It was claimed last night that 15 Labour MPs were ready to back the PM's deal

By John Stevens, Deputy Political Editor and Claire Ellicot For The Daily Mail
Published: 22:52, 20 October 2019
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7594449/Boris-Johnson-claims-support-Brexit-deal-through.html



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Brexit: Parliament Tethers Britain to a Failing Experiment
« Reply #815 on: Oct 22, 2019, 01:48:58 am »
 

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Brexit: Parliament Tethers Britain to a Failing Experiment






'Brexit isn’t going to happen. Left or Right – Lexit or Rexit – it’s over. It’s time to make peace with that idea.

Penned in by the absurd Benn Act, No Deal is off the table, which means Britain will be forced to either remain or accept a deal that’s Remain by another name.

The Letwin Ammendment and Johnson’s unsigned extension request are just morbid theatre. Unneccasary nails in a well-sealed coffin.

It’s all very Weekend at Bernies’ – A lame cast of characters, puppeteering Brexit’s corpse to keep up a tired joke that was never funny to begin with.

Parliament has become an absurd pantomime, where a clown Prime Minister – his majority willfully destroyed – sets up straw men that the “opposition” bayonet with increasingly maniacal glee. No thought is given to policy or consequences, only increasing the tally of Boris Johnson’s parliamentary defeats.

Labour, and the bedraggled, hysterical remainers in the Lib Dems/TIG/Green Party, have become nothing but contrarians – automatically gain-saying anything tabled by the government for the simple joy of humiliating the nation’s Court Jester in Chief.

Corbyn has been so successfully gaslighted by his remain-heavy PLP he doesn’t even realise he’s betraying his life-long principles, his mentor Tony Benn, and entire swaths of the Labour’s Northern heartlands, who all voted to leave.

When a general election does come, it will mean nothing.

Labour will likely be destroyed as working-class voters either flock to the Brexit Party or simply collapse into the apathy of the voiceless, and stay home.

If Labour scrapes together enough voters from Remain country in Scotland and London to claw their way to a small majority, well their socialist manifesto will be crippled by the EU’s austerity policy and restrictions on nationalisation.

In either event, Corbyn will be replaced by a New Labour non-entity of little renown and less worth. The papers will declare socialism dead (again), and maybe clap Corbyn on the shoulder for doing “well, considering” and “changing the conversation”.

We’ll be invited to celebrate the new (inevitably) female leader as a sign of “progress”, while society continues to slip backwards.

Whether the hardcore Remainers get their “People’s Vote” or not, and whichever of the carousel of undesirables happens to be Prime Minister when it all eventually wraps up, Brexit is dead. Parliament killed it.

This on-going, slow-burn sabotage is hard to watch – but it’s not what this article is about.

What it’s about is a question. An important question. One that should weigh heavily on the shoulders of Remainers on the eve of their – for want of a better word – victory:

Do we really want this? Does the EU, right now, really look like something we want to be a part of?

Let’s run down the situation on The Continent.'

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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
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Fury as 'poor man's Cromwell' Speaker John Bercow BLOCKS fresh bid by Boris Johnson to trigger a 'meaningful' vote on his Brexit deal - leaving PM facing a 'Titanic Tuesday' showdown






'Speaker John Bercow today sparked fury by blocking <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/boris_johnson/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Boris Johnson[/url]'s latest bid to trigger a vote on his <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/brexit/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Brexit[/url] deal.

MPs denied the PM 'in principle' approval for his deal over the weekend, instead postponing the showdown and obliging him to ask the <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/european-union/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EU[/url] for an extension.

And in his latest dramatic intervention in the Brexit process this afternoon, Mr Bercow turned down a fresh effort to stage the vote.
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Mr Bercow insisted the 'meaningful' vote would break the Commons convention against asking MPs the same question twice in quick succession.

'It is clear that the motions are in substance the same,' he said. 'The motion will not be debated today as it would be repetitive and disorderly to do so.'

But senior Tory Bernard Jenkin was among those who protested about the ruling in the House. While admitting Speakers cannot always please everyone, he jibed: 'It is becoming remarkable how often you please one lot and not the other lot.'

A visibly angry Mr Bercow shot back that he made 'no apology' for his decision, saying he had granted numerous debates and urgent questions to MPs of a 'Eurosceptic disposition' over the years.

The PM's official spokesman said: 'We are disappointed that the Speaker has yet again denied us the chance to deliver on the will of the British people.

'We will now go ahead with the introduction of the WAB today, with a second reading tomorrow.'

Read more: Fury as 'poor man's Cromwell' Speaker John Bercow BLOCKS fresh bid by Boris Johnson to trigger a 'meaningful' vote on his Brexit deal - leaving PM facing a 'Titanic Tuesday' showdown


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Re: The Brexit betrayal is happening
« Reply #817 on: Oct 22, 2019, 01:56:57 am »
 

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Vote on Johnson’s No-Brexit/Brexit Deal Delayed






A rare Saturday session was held to resolve Brexit up or down.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>

Not so fast. Forty months after Brits narrowly voted to leave the EU on June 23, 2016, the issue remains unresolved. More on Saturday’s below.

Johnson struck a no-deal/Brexit deal with Brussels Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn called worst than Theresa May’s betrayal of the public trust, rejected by MPs three times.

Johnson and EU leaders pretended to resolve the Irish backstop Brexit sticking point by unacceptably redefining it.

Britain, Northern Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland want an open Irish border, without customs checks or other impediments for commerce and people to move freely throughout the island territory — what the April 1998 Good Friday Agreement set in place, a hard border eliminated.

Johnson and Brussels squared the circle by fudging a backstop, Northern Ireland to follow EU rules, especially on goods, its rules applying for commerce between all Irish territory and remainder of Britain.

Johnson’s scheme is a reworking of Theresa May’s unacceptable deal, making it worse, elements of what was agreed unclear by not resolving them.

The deal pretends to free Britain, including Northern Ireland, from the customs union, leaving it free to negotiate trade deals with other countries like the US.

Johnson claims he got Brexit despite what he and the EU agreed on wasn’t what Brits voted for — a clean break with no wrinkles complicating things and creating unacceptable uncertainties about how post-Brexit will play out for ordinary Brits.

The deal also lets Northern Ireland opt out after four years, another complication. The flawed deal is opposed by Labor, Lib Dems, the Brexit party, Scottish National party, Northern Ireland DUP MPs, and perhaps some Tories.

It’s all about selling out ordinary Brits for privileged interests, including by permitting intensified neoliberal harshness.

According to Republic of Ireland national broadcaster RTE television, a leaked copy of Johnson’s deal with Brussels includes customs clearance sites from five to 10 miles on either side of Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland border.

It also includes tracking devices on trucks to monitor traffic digitally on both sides of the Irish border in real time. It lets Northern Ireland adhere to EU agriculture regulations.

On Saturday, MPs passed an amendment Johnson opposed. It delays Brexit for a later date — until legislation is passed on its fine print and how it’s to be implemented.

Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act of 2019, the so-called (Hilary) Benn Act (September 2019), Johnson is mandated to seek a new withdrawal date of January 31, 2020 no later than Saturday — kicking the can down the road again with uncertainty about what awaits next year.

He remains defiant, saying “I will not negotiate a delay with the EU, and neither does the law compel me to do so,” adding:

“I will tell our friends and colleagues in the EU exactly what I have told everyone else in the last 88 days that I have served as prime minister — that further delay would be bad for this country, bad for the European Union, and bad for (Britain’s) democracy” for its privileged few alone at the expense of the vast majority of its people.

Saturday’s up or down vote on Johnson’s deal was rescheduled for Tuesday. He said he’ll introduce new legislation, a further complication.

Corbyn said “(h)e can no longer use the threat of a no-deal crash out to blackmail members to support his sell-out deal.”

As of Saturday, things remain uncertain, the next Brexit chapter to unfold when parliament votes on Tuesday as things now stand.

If the above sounds complicated, it surely is because the devil is in details yet to be worked out and explained.

Note: On Saturday, tens of thousands marched in London for a second Brexit referendum.

Given 40 months and counting without resolution of the first one, it’s unclear what a rerun would accomplish.


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Boris threatens 2 scrap Agreement Bill and force Election
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'I will NOT allow months more of this': Boris Johnson vows to SCRAP his Brexit Bill
and challenge Jeremy Corbyn to an election before Christmas if MPs vote down his 72-hour push to pass deal and leave EU by October 31

* The first votes will take place in the House of Commons on Boris Johnson's Brexit Bill legislation tonight
* The Government is increasingly hopeful of emerging victorious in the crucial second reading clash
* However, MPs are preparing bid to thwart the PM's efforts to rush the laws through Commons in just 72 hours
* Former Conservative rebels set to join Labour, Liberal Democrats and the SNP in opposing the timetable
* Even if he wins the showdown tonight PM faces fending off amendments on customs union and referendum
    * Remainer MPs are also launching a bid to force longer transition period in the Brexit Bill legislation

By James Tapsfield, Political Editor For Mailonline and Jack Maidment, Deputy Political Editor For Mailonline
Published: 13:36, 22 October 2019
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7600463/Boris-Johnson-pleads-MPs-Brexit-bill.html



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MPs reject Brexit bill timetable






'MPs have rejected a proposal to examine Boris Johnson's Brexit bill in the Commons in three days.

The Commons supported the Withdrawal Agreement Bill earlier, but have now voted against the short timetable.

Earlier, the PM warned he would seek an election if MPs dismissed the plan and the EU granted an extension to 31 October Brexit deadline.

After the vote, he told the Commons he would "pause" the legislation until the EU had "stated their intentions".

A spokesman from the European Commission said: "[The Commission] takes note of tonight's result and expects the UK government to inform us about the next steps."

Mr Johnson told MPs he was "disappointed" they had "voted for delay", and said the UK "now faced further uncertainty".

But he said his policy remained that Brexit would go ahead at the end of the month, adding: "One way or another, we will leave the EU with this deal to which this House has just given its assent."

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said Mr Johnson was "the author of his own misfortune" - but offered to enter discussions over a "sensible" timetable for his deal to go through Parliament.

But the SNP's leader, Ian Blackford, said it was "another humiliating defeat" for the PM, and MPs had "spoken with a very clear voice to tell the PM he is not on".

And Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson called on Mr Johnson to "end the brinkmanship and replace it with some statesmanship" in order to secure an extension with the EU.'

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Vote on Johnson’s No-Brexit/Brexit Deal Delayed






A rare Saturday session was held to resolve Brexit up or down.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>

Not so fast. Forty months after Brits narrowly voted to leave the EU on June 23, 2016, the issue remains unresolved. More on Saturday’s below.

Johnson struck a no-deal/Brexit deal with Brussels Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn called worst than Theresa May’s betrayal of the public trust, rejected by MPs three times.

Johnson and EU leaders pretended to resolve the Irish backstop Brexit sticking point by unacceptably redefining it.

Britain, Northern Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland want an open Irish border, without customs checks or other impediments for commerce and people to move freely throughout the island territory — what the April 1998 Good Friday Agreement set in place, a hard border eliminated.

Johnson and Brussels squared the circle by fudging a backstop, Northern Ireland to follow EU rules, especially on goods, its rules applying for commerce between all Irish territory and remainder of Britain.

Johnson’s scheme is a reworking of Theresa May’s unacceptable deal, making it worse, elements of what was agreed unclear by not resolving them.

The deal pretends to free Britain, including Northern Ireland, from the customs union, leaving it free to negotiate trade deals with other countries like the US.

Johnson claims he got Brexit despite what he and the EU agreed on wasn’t what Brits voted for — a clean break with no wrinkles complicating things and creating unacceptable uncertainties about how post-Brexit will play out for ordinary Brits.

The deal also lets Northern Ireland opt out after four years, another complication. The flawed deal is opposed by Labor, Lib Dems, the Brexit party, Scottish National party, Northern Ireland DUP MPs, and perhaps some Tories.

It’s all about selling out ordinary Brits for privileged interests, including by permitting intensified neoliberal harshness.

According to Republic of Ireland national broadcaster RTE television, a leaked copy of Johnson’s deal with Brussels includes customs clearance sites from five to 10 miles on either side of Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland border.

It also includes tracking devices on trucks to monitor traffic digitally on both sides of the Irish border in real time. It lets Northern Ireland adhere to EU agriculture regulations.

On Saturday, MPs passed an amendment Johnson opposed. It delays Brexit for a later date — until legislation is passed on its fine print and how it’s to be implemented.

Under the European Union (Withdrawal) Act of 2019, the so-called (Hilary) Benn Act (September 2019), Johnson is mandated to seek a new withdrawal date of January 31, 2020 no later than Saturday — kicking the can down the road again with uncertainty about what awaits next year.

He remains defiant, saying “I will not negotiate a delay with the EU, and neither does the law compel me to do so,” adding:

“I will tell our friends and colleagues in the EU exactly what I have told everyone else in the last 88 days that I have served as prime minister — that further delay would be bad for this country, bad for the European Union, and bad for (Britain’s) democracy” for its privileged few alone at the expense of the vast majority of its people.

Saturday’s up or down vote on Johnson’s deal was rescheduled for Tuesday. He said he’ll introduce new legislation, a further complication.

Corbyn said “(h)e can no longer use the threat of a no-deal crash out to blackmail members to support his sell-out deal.”

As of Saturday, things remain uncertain, the next Brexit chapter to unfold when parliament votes on Tuesday as things now stand.

If the above sounds complicated, it surely is because the devil is in details yet to be worked out and explained.

Note: On Saturday, tens of thousands marched in London for a second Brexit referendum.

Given 40 months and counting without resolution of the first one, it’s unclear what a rerun would accomplish.


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Brexit: PM says he will try for 12 December election






'Boris Johnson has said he will give MPs more time to debate his Brexit deal, but only if they agree to a 12 December general election.

The prime minister told the BBC he expected the EU to grant an extension to his 31 October deadline, even though he "really" did not want one.

He urged Labour to back an election in a vote he plans to hold next week.

The EU is expected to give its verdict on delaying Brexit for three months, or less time than that, on Friday.

In a letter to Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, Mr Johnson says his "preferred option" is a short postponement "say to 15 or 30 November".

In that case, he writes, he will try to get his deal through Parliament again, with Labour's support.

The prime minister adds that he "assumes" Mr Corbyn "will cooperate with me to get our new Brexit deal ratified, so we leave with a new deal rather than no deal".

If, as widely expected, the EU's Brexit delay is to the end of January, Mr Johnson says he will hold a Commons vote next week on a 12 December election.

If Labour agrees to this, the government says it will try to get its deal through before Parliament is dissolved for the campaign on 6 November.

The prime minister told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg: "I'm afraid it looks as though our EU friends are going to respond to Parliament's request by having an extension, which I really don't want at all.

"So, the way to get this done, the way to get Brexit done, is, I think, to be reasonable with Parliament and say if they genuinely want more time to study this excellent deal, they can have it but they have to agree to a general election on 12 December."

Asked what he would do if Labour refused to vote for an election, he said: "We would campaign day after day for the people of this country to be released from subjection to a Parliament that has outlived its usefulness."

The government will table a motion for a 12 December election later on Thursday, ahead of a possible vote on Monday.

The prime minister has repeatedly insisted the UK will leave the EU next week, with or without a deal.

But he was forced to send a letter to the EU requesting an extension, under legislation passed by MPs last month.

MPs voted on Tuesday to back the first stage of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, putting the deal the PM agreed with Brussels into law - but voted to reject Mr Johnson's plan to push it through the Commons in three days.

Labour has previously insisted it will not vote for a general election until a no-deal Brexit has been firmly ruled out.

Speaking before the PM's latest offer, shadow chancellor John McDonnell said Labour was ready for a general election "whenever it comes", but he refused to be drawn on whether his party would back one if Mr Johnson held a vote on it next week.'

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PM throws down the gauntlet to Jeremy Corbyn: Boris Johnson challenges Labour to the polls on December 12 - and vows to hold vote on an election EVERY day if they refuse






'Boris Johnson tonight threw down the gauntlet to Jeremy Corbyn as he challenged the Labour leader to back his bid for a general election on December 12 and vowed to hold a vote every day if they refuse.

Mr Johnson will hold a vote in the House of Commons on Monday on triggering a snap poll after telling Mr Corbyn the Brexit 'nightmare' cannot be allowed to continue.

But as Mr Corbyn refused to commit, Downing Street threatened to stage daily Commons votes on a snap election until he concedes, saying it would not let him 'hold the country hostage'.

A No 10 source said the Government would effectively go on strike by pulling all legislation, including the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, and instead 'campaign at every stage and at every opportunity for a General Election'.

The EU will make a decision tomorrow on how long to postpone Brexit for and the bloc is expected to push back the UK's departure date to January 31.

Mr Johnson believes such an extension is unacceptable and as a result he has told MPs that if they back an election he will make time available for them to scrutinise and vote on his Brexit deal.

But to succeed he needs the backing of two-thirds of MPs. Mr Corbyn, who has three times turned down the chance of an election, last night suggested he might bottle it again, meaning Mr Johnson will not get the 434 votes he needs.

The Liberal Democrats, SNP and Plaid Cymru also refused to support the plan, saying they – like Mr Corbyn – were waiting for the possibility of No Deal to be removed.'

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EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January






'The EU has agreed to extend Brexit until 31 January 2020, according to a tweet from the European Council president.

Donald Tusk said the bloc would allow for a so-called "flextension" - meaning the UK could leave before the deadline if a deal was approved by Parliament.

It comes as MPs prepare to vote on proposals by Boris Johnson for an early general election on 12 December.

The SNP and Lib Dems have also proposed an election on 9 December.

The draft text of an agreement for the 27 EU ambassadors - seen by the BBC - also includes a commitment that the Withdrawal Agreement on the UK's exit from the EU cannot be renegotiated in future.

The UK was due to leave the EU on Thursday, but Mr Johnson was required to request an extension from the bloc after Parliament failed to agree a Brexit deal.

The PM had repeatedly said the UK would leave on 31 October deadline "do or die", but the law - known as the Benn act - also requires him to accept the offer.

The BBC's assistant political editor Norman Smith said the decision saw a no-deal Brexit taken off the table - which will increase the pressure on MPs to decide on a general election.'

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