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Title: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 05, 2017, 03:08:52 pm
Trump on Syria ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4383544/Trump-Syrian-massacre-terrible-affront-humanity.html
Title: LIVE - False Flag In Syria ! - Infowars
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 05, 2017, 03:29:55 pm
LIVE! False Flag In Syria!
Establishment calls for war as Syrian crisis intensifies
Infowars.com - April 5, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/live-false-flag-in-syria/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - "has 'responsibility' to act"
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 05, 2017, 04:42:44 pm
Donald Trump says he has changed his position on Bashar al-Assad and Syria after chemical weapons attack and has 'responsibility' to act
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/05/donald-trump-says-has-changed-position-bashar-al-assad-syria/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 04:00:02 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 04:47:11 am
Anybody got any ideas what action Trump will take ?

My best guess is that it will be something like a Cruise Missile strike or another type of Stand Off Weapon on Syrian Air Defences.

(a) Does not risk any dead bodies of any American troops. While not many people instantly think of the tragic attempt to use special forces to rescue the hostages in Iran under President Peanut, the Pentagon and White House have longer memories. Use of Stand Off Weapons

(b) ISIS does not have an Air-force, so it can be spun that Trump is not giving Air Support to ISIS. This is more than a little distorted, as one of the reasons Assad is defeating ISIS is because he has an Air Force. Remember Libya ? Besides which the entire Allied doctrine from 1944 onwards is based on Air Superiority. Anyway, they could sell it to the public via the press.

(c) Putin is to responsible to over react, some thing Trump will have to rely upon. Because the possibility of dead Russian Soldiers around an S-300 battery is a distinct possibility.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? [ Why is nobody commenting ? ]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 06:11:15 am
Why is nobody commenting ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 06, 2017, 06:20:33 am
^^

... I think cooler heads will prevail. There reports are credible that
it may have been another set-up or false flag ... other reports
that they have found chemical weapons shells at the site which
were stored/placed there and were exploded by conventional
shelling ... other reports that there may have been an ISIS
truck exploded that had the gas aboard. If ISIS or any of the other
groups could have rigged this, they certainly would have ... and
of course the anti-Trump, anti-Russian, anti-Assad left media are gonna
play it for all it's worth. But we may see Trump led to a big
gaping trap ... and fall in.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 06:42:24 am
False Flag ?
hmm... depends on how we re-define or stretch the meaning.

I do think is that a plane dropped a bomb on one of the munitions dumps - from the very first instant I saw it on the news.
I bet a few of us thought that, the minute it flashed on the news wires.


I think the headline writers at Infowars - acting under pressure - came up with a slogan, a sound bite, that pushed the message it is a HOAX Attack
What Infowars did, in haste, is also an almighty mistake - but I'll leave it up to other people to work out why....

I got to go back to chores, but I will be back for the next smoke break and coffee.
Thank you for replying - I was really, really, beginning to wonder if either nobody cared or people was just in a state of U-Turn paralysis










Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 06, 2017, 07:11:01 am
^^^

... as far as the term 'false flag' I was thinking
about the last big international stink about
chemical war in the area ... and after reading this:


‘FALSE FLAG’ — Ron Paul Says Syrian Chemical
Attack ‘Makes No Sense’ [VIDEO]


√ Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/05/it-makes-no-sense-ron-paul-thinks-syrian-chemical-attack-was-a-false-flag-video/#ixzz4dTErdzHk
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 07:39:48 am
I'm just hinting that it was a foolish choice of words.

False Flag

The person who wishes to "go to war"
Makes an attack under "false colours"
Public reaction demands "justice", like a B-52 strike or what ever.

If its a False Flag, then the person who wants to do the reaction bit -> Trump
Is the same person who engineered the attack in the first place....

Ok, I'm in a hurry, but now do you see why its not a good idea to go down that path.

Yes its a HOAX
NO its not a False Flag.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 06, 2017, 08:28:59 am
^^^

... I don't think it was intentional by
the Russian/Syrian/Iranian forces ...
either a weapons 'dump' at the site
(though Obama said there were
no more gases in Syria), a placement
of a load of gas in a truck or other
means in a 'false flag' move by the
rebel forces.
We'll see  ...  but
"THE WORLD IS A MESS."~> http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/05/trump-i-inherited-a-mess-but-were-going-to-fix-it-video/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 08:42:41 am
We saw in the past two things, in Syria :

(a) The crude front line munitions factories, yards from the front line.
(b) The Rebels are making chemical weapons.

Neither of these are common knowledge to the voting public, thanks to "the media".


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 08:52:06 am
When I ran my standard "Cui Bono"

The answer I got was nobody stands to benefit.

Russians - don't be daft
Assad - don't be daft
Trump - don't be daft
Iran - don't be daft
Lebanon - don't be daft
Etc...

Now Trump is in a bad position :

He can prove he is a Russian Agent, (gawd I hate and detest that Meme).
He can prove he was a lying hypocrite when he mocked Obama's Red Lines.

IMHO
Trump's best bet is to sound tough now, let things cool down, then sound intelligent and fair by asking reasonable questions later.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 11:20:42 am
Well AJ is giving a decent commentary and this is a better headline  8)

Congressman: 'I don't think' Assad is behind Syria attack
By Eleanor Mueller, CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/thomas-massie-syria-attack-not-assad/)


Washington (CNN)Republican Rep. Thomas Massie expressed doubt Wednesday that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is responsible for Tuesday's chemical attack, and reinforced his stance that US intervention could "end up making the situation worse."
Speaking on CNN's "At This Hour" with Kate Bolduan, the Kentucky lawmaker told the host that he didn't think the Syrian leader launched the attack, and that further intervention by the US government may aggravate the situation.

"Frankly, I don't think Assad would have done that," Massie said. "It does not serve his interests."
Title: Sick trolls claim Syria gas massacre was a ‘deep state’ false flag operation [BS
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 11:27:19 am
This is the sort of thing I do NOT want to see !
This disgusting drivel has the largest circulation figs. owned by R.MURDOCK

The Sun
SWAMPING SOCIAL MEDIA
Sick trolls claim Syria gas massacre was a ‘deep state’ false flag operation designed to trick Donald Trump into war with Assad


The suspected chemical attack in northern Syria killed more than 70 people including children and babies
By Mark Hodge
6th April 2017, 2:13 pm
Updated: 6th April 2017, 3:27 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3271382/syria-gas-attack-donald-trump-assad-false-flag-operation-trolls/


Title: Syria Gas Attack 'False Flag' Accusations And Why They're Totally Wrong [BS]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 11:31:33 am
More deep fried faeces, this time the Huffington Gross


Syria Gas Attack 'False Flag' Accusations And Why They're Totally Wrong
Genuine fake news.
06/04/2017 15:12 | Updated 1 hour ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/syria-gas-attack-false-flag_uk_58e5e0f6e4b06a4cb30f2fe1
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 11:35:54 am
The highlights . . .

conspiracy nuts claim the atrocity was orchestrated by the ‘deep state’.
 - The Sun

British far-right conspiracy theorist Paul Joseph Watson is one of the ‘truthers’ peddling the vile claims online.
- The Sun

Speaking on his YouTube show ‘The Liberty Report’, far-right politician Paul said he believed the atrocity in Syria was carried out to force regime change in the country.
- The Sun

The closing Conclusion :

Richard Spencer, the so-called leader of the Alt-Right movement on the fringes of US politics, has also retweeted posts which claim anti-Assad reporters knew about the attack beforehand.
He also tweeted out his own video blog which poses the question: "Will Trump Gas His Presidency Over Syria?"
Spencer, who has been branded a white supremacist by his critics, also retweeted a post which supported the theory that Assad was not behind the atrocity.
The post read: "Assad whatever else he might be is smart enough to be a MD,why would he do the ONE thing guaranteed to get him in trouble with the Empire?"

- The Sun


Its only one of the biggest english language papers on the planet. Incidentally, the problem is people pass it around at work, one copy sold is reckoned to be read by 6 people.



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 12:04:34 pm
On a more positive note :
Assuming that this all blows over then a heck of a lot of people will have learnt what a False Flag is . . . and heard of Watson, Jones, etc . .


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: tahoeblue on Apr 06, 2017, 12:55:56 pm
The question is : Has Trump been (completely?) captured by the NeoCon 's and their false flag syria nwo scenario ?

Between North Korea missiles  and Syria chem attacks .... a rock and a hard place ... 

as a note Assad has no need nor would it be in his  interest  to use a sarin gas attack ... while it is obviously in the realm of the no conscious  killers of ISIS and those creating the false flag need of NWO- USA military intervention ..

timing is also in the focus ... Susan Rice in charge of spying on Trump ... Weiner/Podesta pedophilia ... hmmmmmmm ..

timing again is the nsc  decapitation of Bannon ...  removal is the another straw ...
 
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 01:17:43 pm
The question is : Has Trump been (completely?) captured by the NeoCon 's and their false flag syria nwo scenario ?

That is a very good and concise description of what we "see" from the reporting we are getting.


Between North Korea missiles  and Syria chem attacks .... a rock and a hard place ... 

Does look like some hawks are trying to squeeze him as hard as possible, but I'd be surprised if he does not reflect, rethink, and make another change of  direction, given time to manoeuvre.


as a note Assad has no need nor would it be in his  interest  to use a sarin gas attack ... while it is obviously in the realm of the no conscious  killers of ISIS and those creating the false flag need of NWO- USA military intervention ..

Absolutely, the one criminal we can rule out as suspect.


timing is also in the focus ... Susan Rice in charge of spying on Trump ... Weiner/Podesta pedophilia ... hmmmmmmm ..

timing again is the nsc  decapitation of Bannon ...  removal is the another straw ...

I'm still thinking that one over, but you are right to question The Timing Factor.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: iamc on Apr 06, 2017, 01:27:17 pm
 I voted for Mr. Trump and I believe his heart is for America ..and this is true...

..But now he has let the Demons from DC run his program....Bad move on the man who coined 'The Art of The Deal!'

...DC is the heart of Hell and President Trump better understand this and fast!!!

The world will not change because Trump is President...But the world become Wild...and we all will live in it!!!
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Its hitting the proverbail fan - coalition for strike next
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 03:31:34 pm
Rex Tillerson . . . .

'Something should happen' says Trump after Syria gas-attack atrocity as his secretary of state reveals plans for international coalition to topple Assad
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4387498/Trump-considersmilitary-strikes-Syria-gas-horror.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 03:36:14 pm
The President of China is arriving in Washington to meet Trump

Live
Donald Trump faces first major foreign policy tests over Syria crisis and visit of Chinese president

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/06/donald-trump-faces-first-major-foreign-policy-tests-syria-crisis/
Xi Jinping arrives in Florida for key summit
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 06, 2017, 03:39:12 pm
The President of China is arriving in Washington to meet Trump

Wonder if this is the story behind the story, going into the negotiation with china regarding the s. china sea and trump demonstrating to the chinese american power exersised by a strong man president ?

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 06, 2017, 09:01:03 pm
... this is bad.

Trump Orders Strikes Against Syrian Regime
Airbase in Response to Chemical Attack

KRISTINA WONG - 6 Apr 2017

WASHINGTON –President Trump has ordered cruise missile strikes against a Syrian regime military airbase, a defense official said late Thursday.

A U.S. official said “more than 50” Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched at the airbase, located in Western Syria. That base was where the U.S. believes the Assad regime carried out a chemical weapons attack on Syrian civilians this week. The strikes were carried out from two U.S. destroyers in the Mediterranean Sea.

Trump is expected to give a statement later Thursday.
CNN reported that the attack was carried out between 8 and 9 p.m. ET.


Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) praised the strikes during an interview with CNN.

“I think it was an important step,” he said. “This was not some symbolic measure.”

According to Fox New, President Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that the strikes were in the “vital national security interest of the United States.”

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/06/trump-orders-strikes-syrian-regime-airbase-response-chemical-attack/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 02:52:35 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jacob Law on Apr 07, 2017, 02:53:58 am
... this is bad.

Trump Orders Strikes Against Syrian Regime
Airbase in Response to Chemical Attack

KRISTINA WONG - 6 Apr 2017

WASHINGTON –President Trump has ordered cruise missile strikes against a Syrian regime military airbase, a defense official said late Thursday.

A U.S. official said “more than 50” Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched at the airbase, located in Western Syria. That base was where the U.S. believes the Assad regime carried out a chemical weapons attack on Syrian civilians this week. The strikes were carried out from two U.S. destroyers in the Mediterranean Sea.

Trump is expected to give a statement later Thursday.
CNN reported that the attack was carried out between 8 and 9 p.m. ET.


Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) praised the strikes during an interview with CNN.

“I think it was an important step,” he said. “This was not some symbolic measure.”

According to Fox New, President Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida that the strikes were in the “vital national security interest of the United States.”

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/06/trump-orders-strikes-syrian-regime-airbase-response-chemical-attack/

I am felling betrayed, this make me sick.
Proverbs 13:12  Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 03:11:59 am
I am felling betrayed, this make me sick.
Proverbs 13:12  Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.

/me  gives JacobLaw a Hug
Title: Re: Syria -- Proof it was a False Flag ? BRITISH MI5 AGENT was HOAX Doctor
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 03:54:00 am
The doctor that reported that 'gas attack' has an interesting background.
Previously he had been in Belmarsh for kiddnapping journalists in Syria...
The court case was dropped because both witnesses had 'accidents' and unable to testify in court.


UK-trained doctor hailed a hero for treating gas attack victims in Syria stood trial on terror offences ‘and belonged to the group that kidnapped British reporter John Cantlie’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4388780/Doctor-Syria-stood-trial-terror-offences.html


A UK-trained doctor, who was hailed a hero for treating gas attack victims in Syria, stood trial on terror offences and allegedly belonged to the group that kidnapped British journalist John Cantlie.

At least 86 people, including 20 children, died in Tuesday's attack on a rebel-held town in Idlib province. Dozens more were left gasping for air, convulsing and foaming at the mouth.

Dr Shajul Islam, from East London, published a video of the patients on his Twitter account after the attack.  He said his hospital took care of three victims all with narrow, pinpoint pupils that did not respond to light.

The University of London graduate was arrested and charged with kidnapping two journalists - Mr Cantlie and Dutch reporter Jeroen Oerlemans - in 2012 but was released after the trial collapsed when neither of the prosecution's witnesses were able to give evidence.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/07/01/3F05719800000578-0-image-m-57_1491525234555.jpg)

He has always protested his innocence, saying he went to Syria to use his medical skills to treat victims of the civil war.

Dr Islam, worked as a doctor at St Bart's hospital, is currently removed from the medical register after a fitness to practise hearing at the General Medical Council in March.

After the criminal case against him collapsed, and he was found not guilty, he faced close monitoring by the security services.

According to a GMC report, a secret tribunal panel heard the disciplinary case against Dr Islam in March this year and banned him for misconduct. The hearing was held in private so the details of the misconduct are not publicly known.

At the time of his 2012 prosecution Dr Islam, then 28, and a second man, Jubayer Chowdhury, then 24, were the only alleged British jihadists charged with kidnapping Westerners in Syria.

The pair — held in high security Belmarsh prison — walked free from court after all charges were dropped.

At the start of the hearing in November 2013, prosecutor Mark Dennis QC told the court that all evidence against the brothers rested on the two victims, who were unable to be called, and therefore could not proceed with the case.

A verdict of not guilty was recorded for the charge of kidnapping.

Media reports later suggested Islam may have held the key to the then unknown identity of Jihadi John, who was later unmasked as Mohammed Emwazi.

In his YouTube video of the toxic attack on Tuesday, Dr Islam said: 'The patients keep just flooding in from this chemical attack,' he says in a Twitter video , purportedly taken inside a Syrian hospital this morning. 'Every one - every one - has got pinpoint pupils'.

'The patients keep coming, we've run out of ventilators,' the humanitarian aid added.

'We don't have enough ventilator space, so we're now taking out the transport ventilators we have in our ambulances and we're going to try to modify them to see if we can use them for our patients.'

Dr Islam said that it was 'definitely not a chlorine attack', suggesting that the more severe sarin was used. 

Footage from his hospital shows adults and children lying on hospital beds unresponsive, as medics work to save their lives. 

'I will show you the evidence again and again, but you know what? The world doesn't care and no-one is doing anything,' says Dr Islam.

'We urge you to put pressure on your government - put pressure on anyone - to help us.'

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 04:41:06 am
Washington's 'red line' in Syria is Assad defeating ISIS

Think about it.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Planned before Gas Attack - says Russia
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 05:13:31 am
BRINK OF WW3: ‘You PLANNED THIS!’ Putin accuses USA of plotting strike BEFORE chemical hit
RUSSIA has accused the US and Donald Trump of plotting its missile strike on a Syrian airbase days before the deadly chemical weapons attack which killed 70 people.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/789063/WW3-Syria-missile-strike-Russia-Vladimir-Putin-Donald-Trump-world-war-three

Adding the missile strike broke international law, Russia’s foreign ministry also said it was “obvious” that the US strikes had been prepared before the chemical attack.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 07, 2017, 06:04:24 am
I am felling betrayed, this make me sick.
Proverbs 13:12  Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.


Hey ... Jacob Law ... great to hear from you, bro!
I hope all is well.

This Syrian attack makes me sick as well. I just don't
understand it at all. All of Trump's supporters are
totally taken aback. And this trumped-up BS
chemical weapons story is ridiculous.
This is opposite everything we were led to
believe about Trump's intentions in the mid-east ...
even the Democrats are utterly confused.

There is something about this that we are not being told.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 06:30:50 am
FLASHBACK

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official <-- 2013
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - David Icke
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 07:02:12 am
From David Icke's



Infowars - blindly and brazenly promoting a child-like insane narcissist has been 'fun'
By Andrew Cheetham on 7 April 2017 GMT (https://www.davidicke.com/article/408556/david-icke-whats-really-going-trump-syria-strike)

(https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/download-5-2.png)

(https://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/download-3-3.png)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Q on Apr 07, 2017, 07:12:51 am
This is a disastrous blunder from Trump, but a predictable one.

I maintain that Trump was the establishment candidate elected under anti-establishment cover. His cover has been shaky for quite a while, but hopefully now it's totally blown, and the scales should be falling from even the most encrusted eyes.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 07:17:40 am
This is a disastrous blunder from Trump, but a predictable one.

I maintain that Trump was the establishment candidate elected under anti-establishment cover. His cover has been shaky for quite a while, but hopefully now it's totally blown, and the scales should be falling from even the most encrusted eyes.

Hey good to see you, all are welcome.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Rand Paul comments
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 07:30:00 am
'While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The President needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate.'
 - Rand Paul
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Rand Paul comments
Post by: Q on Apr 07, 2017, 07:59:54 am
'While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked. The President needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate.'
 - Rand Paul


Rand Paul is the president we should have had, but the so-called libertarians deserted him in favor of a showman who gave good speech.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Rand Paul comments
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 08:02:38 am
Rand Paul is the president we should have had, but the so-called libertarians deserted him in favor of a showman who gave good speech.

Well he was better than some others I could name, but nothing like his father.

Anyway my bias, is, I'm a bit of political atheist - I dont believe in politicians, just issues
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Farage & UKIP comments
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 08:10:42 am
Farage criticises Trump for launching strikes on Syria as UKIP leader Paul Nuttall describes the attack as 'trigger happy and nonsensical'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4389590/Farage-lays-Trump-strikes-Syrian-regime.html

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Alex Jones speaks
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 08:27:30 am
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 07, 2017, 08:51:56 am
Anybody got any ideas what action Trump will take ?

My best guess is that it will be something like a Cruise Missile strike or another type of Stand Off Weapon on Syrian Air Defences.

(a) Does not risk any dead bodies of any American troops. While not many people instantly think of the tragic attempt to use special forces to rescue the hostages in Iran under President Peanut, the Pentagon and White House have longer memories. Use of Stand Off Weapons

(b) ISIS does not have an Air-force, so it can be spun that Trump is not giving Air Support to ISIS. This is more than a little distorted, as one of the reasons Assad is defeating ISIS is because he has an Air Force. Remember Libya ? Besides which the entire Allied doctrine from 1944 onwards is based on Air Superiority. Anyway, they could sell it to the public via the press.

(c) Putin is to responsible to over react, some thing Trump will have to rely upon. Because the possibility of dead Russian Soldiers around an S-300 battery is a distinct possibility.

Good call.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Adolf Hitler on Apr 07, 2017, 09:37:58 am
Good call.

True, but he's still very annoying.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 07, 2017, 09:39:12 am
"Six MiG-23 fighter jets, a radar post, logistics warehouse,
educational building, and dining room had been
destroyed in the strike."


US missile strikes:
Russia announces plan to bolster Syrian air defences
and derides Trump over 'extremely low' effectiveness of bombing

Moscow accuses Washington of planning attack on airbase
'long before' a suspected chemical attack that American
officials say triggered the action

Tom Batchelor - Friday 7 April 2017

EXCERPT:
Quote
It also mocked the effectiveness of the attack, saying just 23 of the 59 tomahawk cruise missiles fired from US Navy destroyers had hit their target.

"The combat effectiveness of the US massive missile attack on the Syrian air base is extremely low," the statement continued.

“These actions of the American side are seen as a flagrant violation of the memorandum signed in 2015 on the prevention of incidents and safety during operations in Syrian airspace.”

Russia’s Black Sea Fleet’s frigate, the Admiral Grigorovich, is now heading for the Syrian port city of Tartus in the eastern Mediterranean, according to sources quoted by Russian news agency Tass.

The vessel was on a routine operation but would head for Tartus. It is armed with Kalibr cruise missiles.

“It is obvious that the impact of American cruise missiles on the Syrian
air base was prepared long before today's events,” the statement said.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-missile-strike-russia-syria-air-defences-bolster-donald-trump-putin-low-extremely-low-effective-a7671921.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Adolf Hitler on Apr 07, 2017, 09:43:40 am
Trump is just copying what I did in Berlin on 27 February 1933.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 07, 2017, 09:44:45 am
... Trump supporters can't make sense of this move.   ???

Nigel Farage and other right-wing populists turn
on Donald Trump after missile strikes

Helena Horton
7 APRIL 2017

Many former Donald Trump supporters have turned on the President after his decision to retaliate against the Assad regime for its chemical weapons attack.

Nigel Farage, Milo Yiannopoulos Katie Hopkins, right-wing vlogger Paul Joseph Watson, Ukip leader Paul Nuttall and Ukip donor Arron Banks are among the Trump supporters who have been disappointed by their hero.

Mr Farage said: "I am very surprised by this. I think a lot of Trump voters will be waking up this morning and scratching their heads and saying 'where will it all end?'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/07/nigel-farage-right-wing-populists-turn-donald-trump-missile/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Adolf Hitler on Apr 07, 2017, 09:45:50 am
"Six MiG-23 fighter jets, a radar post, logistics warehouse,
educational building, and dining room had been
destroyed in the strike."


Is it a big strike, or a wet as a paper bag strike ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Adolf Hitler on Apr 07, 2017, 09:51:54 am
... Trump supporters can't make sense of this move.   ???



I still do not want Hillary but

This is NWO 4 U

Two candidates but ONE choice.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 07, 2017, 09:58:02 am
This move by Trump was driven by the globalist neocon sh*tbags:
- Recent visit to Syria by McCain
- King Abdullah of Jordan stops by for coffee
- BOOM - False flag Sarin gas attack (what amazing timing!)
- President of China hangs with Trump at Mar-a-Lago
- BOOM - retaliation by US against Syria's only airbase; how they were killing our US-armed/trained ISIS Al-Qaeda troops

- Trump loses a lot of his base of supporters.
- Trump gains respect from globalist MSM.
- Hillary celebrates.

Did Russia know beforehand? They MUST have known - they have their own bases, defenses against incoming missiles...
but they didn't respond.

I think we've just witnessed a stage production.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Alex Jones speaks
Post by: Jacob Law on Apr 07, 2017, 09:59:30 am



Trump has been CHUMP and has embraced HYPOCRISY
Sorry Alex, nice try, some very good double speak.
I am very bitterly disappointed.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Adolf Hitler on Apr 07, 2017, 10:02:15 am
This move by Trump was driven by the globalist neocon sh*tbags:
- Recent visit to Syria by McCain
- King Abdullah of Jordan stops by for coffee
- BOOM - False flag Sarin gas attack (what amazing timing!)
- President of China hangs with Trump at Mar-a-Lago
- BOOM - retaliation by US against Syria's only airbase; how they were killing our US-armed/trained ISIS Al-Qaeda troops

- Trump loses a lot of his base of supporters.
- Trump gains respect from globalist MSM.
- Hillary celebrates.

Did Russia know beforehand? They MUST have known - they have their own bases, defenses against incoming missiles...
but they didn't respond.

I think we've just witnessed a stage production.

i once did deal with Stalin, I got most of Poland and a large chunk of Lithuania

i also learn not to poke bear with little stick
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 07, 2017, 10:10:36 am
Trump Surrenders Element of Surprise by Warning Russia of Planned Strike on Its Ally Syria
https://theintercept.com/2017/04/07/trump-surrenders-element-surprise-warning-russia-planned-strike-ally-syria/

Robert Mackey
April 7 2017

No doubt fearing the grave risk of killing Russian military personnel on the ground in Syria, the United States military gave Russia advance notice before launching cruise missile strikes overnight on a Syrian air base that is used to store chemical weapons, according to a U.S. intelligence assessment.

A Pentagon spokesman, Capt. Jeff Davis, said in a statement that a pre-exiting “deconfliction” channel, set up to keep American and Russian jets from crossing paths in the skies over Syria, was used to disclose the planned attack to Russia. “U.S. military planners took precautions to minimize risk to Russian or Syrian personnel located at the airfield,” Davis said.

(After the strikes hit, the Russians announced that they were withdrawing from the agreement to share information about their movements over Syria.) (Continued) (https://theintercept.com/2017/04/07/trump-surrenders-element-surprise-warning-russia-planned-strike-ally-syria/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Donnay on Apr 07, 2017, 10:13:55 am
This strike is wrong!  I am extremely sadden by it.   Trump has been NEOCONNED!
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 10:20:40 am
(https://akilluminati.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/quote-we-re-going-to-take-out-seven-countries-in-5-years-starting-with-iraq-and-then-syria-wesley-clark-65-49-13.jpg)

Iraq
Libya
Somalia
Sudan
Lebanon
Syria

Iran


What gets crossed off is debatable does Israel's last 'incursion' count ?
And of course Syria is current . . .

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 10:44:43 am
The Russians . . .

Putin has positioned a Warship off Coast - Admiral Grigorovich
Putin has also ripped up an agreement to avoid mid-air clashes between Russian and US fighter jets over Syria.

All predictable, as in the expected statesman like measured reaction.



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 10:47:31 am
The President of China is arriving in Washington to meet Trump

Live
Donald Trump faces first major foreign policy tests over Syria crisis and visit of Chinese President

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/06/donald-trump-faces-first-major-foreign-policy-tests-syria-crisis/
Xi Jinping arrives in Florida for key summit

Wonder if this is the story behind the story, going into the negotiation with china regarding the s. china sea and trump demonstrating to the chinese american power exersised by a strong man president ?

I think you will hear that talking point again today, live from austin texas.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: tahoeblue on Apr 07, 2017, 11:10:50 am
Biblical

http://www.nbcwashington.com/weather/stories/Strong-Storms-Could-Move-in-for-Thursday-Morning-Rush-418418493.html
2 Tornadoes Touched Down in DC Area
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Donnay on Apr 07, 2017, 11:17:31 am
Biblical

http://www.nbcwashington.com/weather/stories/Strong-Storms-Could-Move-in-for-Thursday-Morning-Rush-418418493.html
2 Tornadoes Touched Down in DC Area

That was my first thought when I read that!
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 07, 2017, 11:19:44 am
... interesting poll going on at DRUDGE:

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Donnay on Apr 07, 2017, 11:22:38 am
BAD!

When you have the establishment coming out and backing you, you know what you did is BAD!
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: saffron on Apr 07, 2017, 11:29:02 am
Agreed Donna.

Quite honestly, I was worried for this type of thing.  I think it is mind control, and they got him.  At the very least.  It's possible the clone was finally ready.

I don't think we'll see anything but globalist agenda from now on.

love, e
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Donnay on Apr 07, 2017, 11:33:23 am
It's time for America to do some serious praying to God.  We need to ask him that if it is HIS WILL, to lead, guide and direction President Trump to have the courage to do the right thing and not cave to the evil.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: saffron on Apr 07, 2017, 11:38:31 am

Also, the main stream garbage was looking ridiculous.  They were reduced to childlike cartoonish level in their "news."   Now, it's like the main stream media has validity again joining up with and liking what Trump did.

They always demonize the leader of the country they want to take down.  Remember Saddam Hussein of Iraq?  They present the leader as some kind of evil crazy gone wild, when in fact this is what they see in the mirror.

love, e
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: saffron on Apr 07, 2017, 11:42:53 am


My question is, after Iran, then what?  What does it all accomplish?  I'm sick to death of the globalist war games fun.

love, e
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 11:56:49 am

My question is, after Iran, then what?  What does it all accomplish?  I'm sick to death of the globalist war games fun.

love, e

First they will over throw every vaguely stable or secular country to the Mujhadeen / Taliban / ISIS / rebranded CIA band of idiots
Apparently the last country will be Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is where the Wahhabi death cult comes from.

I assume that once the take over is complete, some anti christ like figure will destroy Saudi because of naughty ISIS.
Its sick
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: saffron on Apr 07, 2017, 12:27:45 pm
It's time for America to do some serious praying to God.  We need to ask him that if it is HIS WILL, to lead, guide and direction President Trump to have the courage to do the right thing and not cave to the evil.

You're right Donna.  God's will is what counts and what we should be accomplishing.

love,e
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: saffron on Apr 07, 2017, 12:30:16 pm
First they will over throw every vaguely stable or secular country to the Mujhadeen / Taliban / ISIS / rebranded CIA band of idiots
Apparently the last country will be Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is where the Wahhabi death cult comes from.

I assume that once the take over is complete, some anti christ like figure will destroy Saudi because of naughty ISIS.
Its sick

Totally dismal & evil.  Ridiculous war to destabilize and grab kids.  Humankind could be accomplishing so much more & better.

No, they don't want an *all* robotic society.  They'll keep a good number of breeders to keep the clone reproduction going.  How else can they indulge in their fun of torturing and raping infants and four-year-olds?  In the meantime, wars will do to make sure children are available for their sick evil beyond words.

love, e

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 03:13:02 pm
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 03:15:09 pm
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 03:16:06 pm
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 03:17:56 pm
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 04:12:19 pm
Paul Joseph Watson



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 04:33:06 pm
Did the Russian Air Defence Shoot Down some of the US Tomahawks ?

Hang on . . .  how come the Russian Air Defence did NOT intercept the cruise missiles - or did they ?
I recall that a heck of a lot of the missiles failed to reach the target - shot down perhaps ?

S-400, S-300 and probably S-500 Growler wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_missile_system)

Range about 230 km for a ballistic missile.
A separate independent air defence system is deployed to protect them from any US/Israel Iron Eagle attempts to take out the battery.

Eh ?

23 Hit Targets
36 SHOTDOWN !


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? KATIE HOPKINS:
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 05:02:13 pm
KATIE HOPKINS: I'd like to support bombing Assad but is Trump thinking with his head, his heart ... or another part of his anatomy?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4391756/KATIE-HOPKINS-d-like-support-bombing-Assad.html

I still cannot quite believe it.

Cannot quite believe I am watching a UN Security Council meeting where US Ambassador Nikki Haley blames Russia for the presence of chemical weapons in Syria.

Where Russia accuses the US of encouraging terrorists and routes its cruise missile-armed warship The Admiral Grigorovich to the Med.

On Thursday night, the mainstream consensus that 'something must be done' in Syria became a reality.

The US launched fifty-nine Tomahawk cruise missiles, fired from two US Navy ships in the Mediterranean.

President Donald Trump said they hit the Shayrat base that launched Tuesday's gas attack in Syria.

Now their ambassador says this was 'a measured step' and 'the US is prepared to do more'.

More? More what? More bombing? More attacks on a sovereign nation? To incurring more of Putin's wrath? More brinkmanship? To what end?

To show that you have a red line?

I am struggling to understand how a President who repeatedly campaigned to stay out of Syria is now right in the heart of it, launching missiles into the country - with Russia watching on.

He has overwhelming support. From the UK, Canada, Australia, Israel and the EU. And from the Democrats – excluding Clinton of course. (She has made the point that Trump cannot in one breath speak of protecting Syrian babies while closing American doors to them.)

But Assad has friends in powerful places too. Russia. Iran. Iraq. Lebanon.

Putin has called it a deliberate act of aggression on a sovereign nation. In case we needed reminding, Putin has red lines too. He has terminated the joint air safety agreement to prevent incidents in the skies over Syria.

Imagine the fall out from a Russian US mid-air collision.

We used to have the Wild West. Trump, Putin, Assad and ISIS just rechristened Syria the Crazy Country.

There are so many arms being discharged there, it is getting to the point no one knows who is firing or why. There are only best guesses. Arguably it is still a best guess that Assad deliberately launched a chemical attack on Syria.

Some question his involvement. Assad is winning the war against the rebels and Islamic State. Trump had previously said he was not in favour of a regime change. So Assad has absolutely NO reason launch a chemical attack to justify the Western intervention it has attracted.

The former British Ambassador to Syria Peter Ford who says he believes it is 'highly unlikely' that Russia or the Assad regime was behind the attack in Idlib.

There is much confusion. But at least the Russia's approach to Assad is clear. A foreign ministry spokesman said: 'He is the legal president of an independent state. What is the US approach?'

And now we know. It is to bomb the airfield of a country that is alleged to have bombed its people.

And – after the depressing inaction in the UK after the Westminster terror attack – at least Trump has actually done something. Moved from empty words, condemning an attack which clearly sickens us all into demonstrable force. Missiles fired.

Trump understands stating the obvious is not leadership. It does not present a solution. It is the same act of nothingness as saying 'we stand united'. Or are 'not cowed'.

We have all seen by now the pictures of tiny babies in shrouds. The twins sleeping too peacefully — dead, in fact — yet still somehow animated by their father's living embrace. We can't imagine how one parent could bear all that. I couldn't.

I wonder why I haven't seen any pictures of grieving mothers in the aftermath of the attack. Where are the women survivors, connected so viscerally to their babies?

But experience tells us reacting with our heart solves nothing. The world reacted with its heart to the death of little Aylun Kurdi, drowned on a beach in Greece, and it is still reeling from the political decisions made in the wake of that one picture.

Trump has acted definitively. Acts like this will not be tolerated.

But did he act with his heart? Or with his head?

My most forgiving explanation for Trump's trigger happy Thursday is that he genuinely, morally believed he had to act. Compelled by a big heart and a love of children. He is adored by his own kids for good reason, he is a great dad.

I worry about what comes next.

There is no doubt Assad is thuggish and brutal. But no matter how repulsive the Assad regime may be, I would argue the alternative — an authoritarian Islamic regime — would be far worse.

Assad is unique in the Arab world. Unlike most leaders of Muslim-majority countries, Assad is not a religious Muslim

Under Assad Syria was a secular nation in which different religions lived side by side. Even Obama recognised that Assad protected Syrian Christians, enabling them to live in peace. Women could drive and had a vote.

Compare this to Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, where ISIS has set about subjugating and terrorising its one million inhabitants in a manner not seen since the Nazi occupation of Europe.

Opponents have been subjected to torture and mass executions, and minority sects, such as Christians, persecuted. Civilians trying to flee are slaughtered. And suicide bombers are just another weapon in their arsenal.

Given this, is deposing the legal president of an independent state, without a viable replacement on hand, really so very wise?

Have we not learned our lessons from the disastrous triumph of the Arab Spring?

Surely we need Trump to think with his head. Strategically. Look away from the images of war, and consider what is best for the stability of the region.

More than six years into the Syrian conflict, Assad appeared to be militarily unassailable in the areas of western Syria where he has shored up his rule with decisive help from the Russian military and Iranian-backed militias from across the region.

He had a clear goal: total defeat of the insurgency. He rejects the federalism sought by Kurdish groups in northern Syria.

'We have a great hope which is becoming greater, we do not have any other option except victory,' he said.

'If we do not win this war, it means that Syria will be deleted from the map. We have no choice in facing this war, and that's why we are confident, we are persistent and we are determined.'

Why would we stand in his way?

This is a brutal war which needs to be over. Assad is the legal president of an independent nation with a clear aim and confidence to deliver it. You may think him a monster, but history teaches us you remove one monster and another horror will come in its place.

It amazes me our world leaders want to betray the only man and the only country who has stood fast against the tide of mediaeval religious fanaticism. Assad wants to rid his country of Islamic extremism.

As news of another terrorist attack with a truck, driven into Swedish nationals near the Parliament building in Stockholm, sent forward and backwards over the bodies by the evil man behind the wheel, I wonder if the world is focussed on the wrong monster.

Assad is a secular leader fighting against ISIS.

Under threat from the death cult of ISIS, capable of radicalising European nationals on home soil, I wonder why the hell we would bomb his airbases or stand in his way.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 05:04:42 pm
US afraid of real investigation into Syria chemical incident – Russian deputy UN envoy
https://www.rt.com/news/383953-us-afraid-of-real-investigation-syria/

The US missile strike in Syria “only facilitated the strengthening of terrorism,” Russia’s representative at the UN Security Council has said, adding that it shows Washington is “afraid” of a “real investigation” into an alleged chemical attack in Syria.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Russian PM - says Trump has been "got at"
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 07, 2017, 05:07:10 pm
America’s Syria strike ‘on verge of military clash’ with Russia – PM Medvedev
The US attack on an airfield in Syria has been conducted “on the verge of a military clash” with Russia, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said, adding that President Trump has been “broken by the US power machine” in just two-and-a-half months.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 07, 2017, 06:24:32 pm
... the crux of the problem is whether or not the
gas attack was 'real' or false flag, and we will go
back & forth, ad infinitum over that, as usual
with this stuff, and we will never definitively know
for sure. I am not going to let this interfere with
my general support of Trump ... this is the first
thing REALLY putting stress on my advocacy,
but will probably prove to be a minor blip in
the big scheme of things.

... AND ... we don't know what he really based
his decision on. For all we know, the US may have
a mole in the Assad war room, who called up Mad Dog
and said, "Dude ... a plane just lifted off to drop a
test sarin bomb on ISIS! Assad says, 'let's just see
if Trump will let this slide ... if so, by Allah, we will wipe
these filthy MF'ers off the face of the Earth in 24 hours!'"
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Q on Apr 07, 2017, 06:32:16 pm
I've never heard so much blathering nonsense as Alex Jones and Steve Pieczenik spinning around trying to explain away Trump's massive blunder and capitulation to the zionists, neocons and the mic. military industrial complex.

Apparently Trump is engaged in some ingenious and diabolical '4D chess'. 4D chess? Anyone who talks about '4D chess' almost certainly has no idea how to play regular chess. I have seen no evidence that Trump would be able to play a decent game of dominoes much less regular chess, infinitely more or less this mythical '4D chess'. Do they even know what they're trying to say when they talk about '4D chess'? I think not.

I ask Jones and Pieczenik and the others this: if Hillary was el presidente, and ordered this strike, would you be breathlessly spinning some load of ridiculous old shite about Machiavelli and '4D chess', or would you be calling it what it is - the zionists and neocons asserting full control over their puppet in the White House..? Answers on a postcard.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 07, 2017, 09:23:55 pm
The Truth About Trump's Air Strike on Syria
Paul Joseph Watson

Published on Apr 7, 2017
Half of you will hate me whatever I say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXuV64hp4dk



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In this photo released by the White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer on Twitter, President Trump receives a briefing on
the Syria military strike in a secured conference room at his Mar-a-Lago resort.
(Photo: White House Photo)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/04/07/white-house-releases-photo-mar-a-lago-situation-room/100167552/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 07, 2017, 10:37:11 pm
We Are Now Al-Qaeda’s Air Force
MOSES APOSTATICUS - 04/07/2017

The blast from the 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles which President Trump ordered to strike the al-Shayrat airfield in Syria on Thursday has since reverberated around the world. Many Americans are still waiting for the smoke to clear, to make sense of exactly what happened and why.

President Trump and his Secretary of State Rex Tillerson are unanimous in their conviction that the regime of Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons on his own people, thus justifying the attack. Everyday Americans are rightly skeptical when it comes to weapons of mass destruction being used to justify a possible war. We’ve heard it before.

Why would Assad use weapons of mass destruction against civilians when he was already winning the conflict? He is not a madman, and he would know the consequences.

Who benefits from such a tragedy, if not Assad?

The beneficiaries would include ISIS and the other Al-Qaeda spinoffs in the region. ISIS have made it clear that their strategy involves drawing the West, whom they call ‘the Romans,’ into an invasion and defeat in Syria. It is a major feature of their propaganda. ~>https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

"Trump promised to destroy ISIS and mend fences with Russia.
Americans chose the latter. Now many are wondering if there was a choice at all."


Quote
Syria is a landmine, Mr. President. Only the jihadis and your deep state enemies, the neocons and war profiteers, want you to step on it. The rest of America are holding our breath, and wondering: Have we learned anything from this past century of bloodshed and horror?

√ Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/we-are-now-al-qaedas-air-force/#ixzz4dcp7I9Mp
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? BONUS $5 Billion - Raytheon stock holders
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 04:33:41 am

Syria Airstrikes Instantly Added Nearly $5 Billion to Missile-Makers’ Stock Value
Jen Wieczner
Apr 07, 2017
FORTUNE
http://fortune.com/2017/04/07/syria-airstrikes-tomahawk-missile-boeing-raytheon-stock/


Raytheon stock surged Friday morning, after 59 of the company's Tomahawk missiles were used to strike Syria in Donald Trump's first major military operation as President.

ETC...
http://fortune.com/2017/04/07/syria-airstrikes-tomahawk-missile-boeing-raytheon-stock/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Daddy Issues
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 04:42:11 am
"There comes a day in every child's life when his Daddy [Trump] bitterly disappoints him."
- Milo Yiannapolous


The fundamental flaw in right wing strong man politics - Ya got Daddy Issues.
Ironic when complaining that the Left want the State to be their parents.

The Truth is the public as whole has parental issues because "they" do not want a society of mature adult voters.
Time to ditch the kids politics of name calling and focus intelligently with out prejudice on solutions for issues.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Daddy Issues
Post by: Adolf Hitler on Apr 08, 2017, 05:07:29 am
"There comes a day in every child's life when his Daddy [Trump] bitterly disappoints him."
- Milo Yiannapolous


The fundamental flaw in right wing strong man politics - Ya got Daddy Issues.
Ironic when complaining that the Left want the State to be their parents.

The Truth is the public as whole has parental issues because "they" do not want a society of mature adult voters.
Time to ditch the kids politics of name calling and focus intelligently with out prejudice on solutions for issues.

You forgot that how I got elected in the 1930's was by appealing to all social groups

workers
middle classes
upper class, industrialists and aristocrats

that is why people to this day get into daft debates, "was Hilter left or right wing ?"

LOL
Fools

I left that behind, and shot to power behind the slogan
Making Germany Great Again

It all ended with me hiding out on a kibutz !
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 06:19:54 am
It is not a coincidence theory
It does not justify bogger all.

Trump hails 'tremendous progress' with Chinese leader Xi
http://news.sky.com/story/trump-hails-tremendous-progress-with-chinese-leader-xi-10829201

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? We Are Change + David Icke
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 07:11:17 am
Why Donald Trump Is Not The Answer, Alternative Media - David Icke & We Are Change - September 2016

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?Bolivia Trolls US - Iraq WMD lies UN Secuirty Council
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 07:21:18 am
Bolivia mercilessly trolls US over Iraq WMD lie in front of UN Security Council
By Andrew Cheetham on 8 April 2017 GMT


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 07:26:33 am
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 08, 2017, 07:43:05 am
... Putin is just as puzzled by the Trump
action against Assad as are we Trumpsters
here in USA are.


"The White House late Friday refused to say whether
strike was a one-off action or part of a new strategy
designed to hobble the military capabilities of
President Bashar al-Assad."


Syria strikes:
Site of chemical attack hit again

Euan McKirdy, Laura Smith-Spark and Barbara Starr
April 8, 2017

(CNN)[Breaking news update, published at 8:19 a.m. ET]

The Syrian city of Khan Sheikhoun -- the site of Tuesday's chemical attack -- was hit by airstrikes on Friday and Saturday, according to two activists in the city and regional activist groups.

At least one woman was killed and three other people injured in Saturday's strike, two activists in Khan Sheikhoun said.

It wasn't immediately clear who conducted Friday's and Saturday's strikes.

Quote
A Russian frigate armed with cruise missiles was heading to the Mediterranean in an apparent show of force a day after the first direct military strike by the US against the Syrian regime.
Russian state media reported that the frigate, the Admiral Grigorovich, would call at a logistics base at Tartus, Syria. Russia also pledged to help strengthen Syria's air defenses after the US strike on the Shayrat airbase in western Syria.

√ w/VIDEO: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/08/middleeast/syria-strikes-russia-donald-trump/index.html?adkey=bn
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 08:36:50 am
False Flag Evidence
Who reported and posted the "evidence" ?


Why that is an easy question to answer - Dr Shajul Islam

That Dr Shajul Islam was held in a Top Security Prison on Terrorism and Kidnapping charges . . .
The case was dropped because . . .


NHS doctor accused of Syrian kidnap has case dropped
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10441099/NHS-doctor-accused-of-Syrian-kidnap-has-case-dropped.html

Syria kidnap case against doctor dropped by prosecution
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24901481

John Cantlie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cantlie
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 08:53:51 am
(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/trump-support-696x366.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 08, 2017, 09:13:02 am

... Mr. Maddow & O’Donnell :  RUSSIA DID IT!

WTF?

MSNBC’s O’Donnell:
Maybe Putin Masterminded Chemical Attack So
Trump Could Look Good by Striking Syria

by IAN HANCHETT
7 Apr 2017

On Friday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Last Word,” anchor Lawrence O’Donnell stated that “if Vladimir Putin masterminded the last week in Syria, he has gotten everything he could have asked for.” O’Donnell then floated a theory that Putin told Syria’s Bashar al-Assad to launch a small chemical attack that was big enough to attract media attention and prompt President Trump into launching a missile strike, which would then change the subject from Russian influence.

O’Donnell said, “[W]ouldn’t it be nice if it was just completely, totally, absolutely impossible to suspect that Vladimir Putin orchestrated what happened in Syria this week so that his friend in the White House could have a big night, with missiles, and all of the praise he’s picked up over the last 24 hours? Wouldn’t it be so nice if you couldn’t even in your wildest dreams imagine a scenario like that?”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/04/07/msnbcs-odonnell-maybe-putin-masterminded-chemical-attack-so-trump-could-look-good-by-striking-syria/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 09:31:23 am
... Mr. Maddow & O’Donnell :  RUSSIA DID IT!

WTF?

MSNBC’s O’Donnell:
Maybe Putin Masterminded Chemical Attack So
Trump Could Look Good by Striking Syria

by IAN HANCHETT
7 Apr 2017

On Friday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Last Word,” anchor Lawrence O’Donnell stated that “if Vladimir Putin masterminded the last week in Syria, he has gotten everything he could have asked for.” O’Donnell then floated a theory that Putin told Syria’s Bashar al-Assad to launch a small chemical attack that was big enough to attract media attention and prompt President Trump into launching a missile strike, which would then change the subject from Russian influence.

O’Donnell said, “[W]ouldn’t it be nice if it was just completely, totally, absolutely impossible to suspect that Vladimir Putin orchestrated what happened in Syria this week so that his friend in the White House could have a big night, with missiles, and all of the praise he’s picked up over the last 24 hours? Wouldn’t it be so nice if you couldn’t even in your wildest dreams imagine a scenario like that?”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/04/07/msnbcs-odonnell-maybe-putin-masterminded-chemical-attack-so-trump-could-look-good-by-striking-syria/

Kinda debunks the 4D chess joke theory.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 08, 2017, 09:33:41 am
^^^

...  ;D  Maybe Putin's in the 4th Dimension?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: tahoeblue on Apr 08, 2017, 09:52:00 am
the most reasonable story I've heard so far is that an airborne attack was made ( possibly russian migs ) and bombed an area that contained chemical munitions on the ground , these chemicals were released into the area and killed all those people ... Also Sarin is not proven . Every indication is chemical suffocation .
I'm looking for the article ,... Anyway  ...it all seems obtuse .  Notice the words "Accused" as apposed to "proven"


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/syrian-chemical-attack-my-family-dropped-to-the-ground-one-by-one/news-story/c9c1c932a937a04608c1cbc28746ea0d
Syrian chemical attack: ‘my family dropped to the ground one by one’
    Laurance Norman, Bel Trew
    The Wall Street Journal
    12:00AM April 7, 2017
   
A day after a suspected chemical attack killed more than 80 people, the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun is almost deserted. Many of its residents have fled, while others fill living rooms in ­silence, traumatised.

An AFP correspondent said residents were still finding bodies around the town, including of a family that had hidden in a small cove they used as a bomb shelter and had never emerged.

On the road into town, a medic and his assistant are carefully putting remnants of what appears to be a missile into plastic bags.

“We took samples from the ­location of the strike, a specimen of the rocket, and animal and plant samples,” says Hazem, who heads Khan Sheikhoun’s medical office.

The boom of airstrikes can still be heard behind them, rattling a bright red sign marked with a skull and crossbones propped up on a nearby rock.

“We were promised that UN teams will come to examine the site … We are protecting the samples and cataloguing them so when any team comes they can see what happened to us here,” Hazem says.
,,,
The World Health Organisation says the symptoms, muscle spasms, constricted pupils, involuntary defecation, point to exposure to nerve agents such as sarin. Syria’s military denied any use of chemical weapons.

The UN Commission of Inquiry on Syria and the UN’s chemical arms watchdog say they are investigating the attack to determine whether chemical substances were used.

Syrian president Bashar al-Assad’s regime has been accused of using sarin in past attacks
. Doctors and rescue workers in and near Khan Sheikhoun described symptoms similar to those suffered by the victims of a 2013 sarin attack in the Damascus suburb of eastern Ghouta, in which 1429 people died.
...
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 09:55:28 am

the most reasonable story I've heard so far is that an airborne attack was made ( possibly russian migs ) and bombed an area that contained chemical munitions on the ground , these chemicals were released into the area and killed all those people ... Also Sarin is not proven . Every indication is chemical suffocation .
I'm looking for the article ,... Anyway  ...it all seems obtuse .  Notice the words "Accused" as apposed to "proven"



Absolutely, its Occam’s Razor wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor)

Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? We Are Change + David Icke
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 08, 2017, 09:57:42 am
Why Donald Trump Is Not The Answer, Alternative Media - David Icke & We Are Change - September 2016



That was really informative, thought-provoking, and Icke spoke eloquently about something I noticed after having been away from PPF for a few years... the fact that the former truth-seeking and false-flag-exposing alternative media I listened to for years, had transformed into a political action media campaign. All of a sudden, the investigation into the possibility of false flag attacks was shut down: and the globalist agenda was followed to the tee - no investigation, blame the 'muslims' (instead of exposing the 'muslim' patsy behind the deed.)

This just happened in Syria. NO INVESTIGATION, just shoot. And they blew apart defenses that Assad was using to fight the US-armed/trained ISIS and Al Qaeda terrorists - the people Assad was fighting against to protect his country. But that was getting in the way of regime change, after Hillary's failure to finish the job, Trump was brought in to do it. That's why we see all the globalist MSM, the think tank crews, the Kissinger's Clintons, Bidens, Obamas, the political puppets all cheering ... "now he's being presidential." As if he was ever a 'maverick' hero challenging the system. BS.

The disappointment that people have in Donald Trump's inability (or lack of desire) to extricate himself from the globalist agenda (witness the presence of Goldman Sachs in all the important positions - controlling our money), is because they wanted to believe there was a hero on a white horse come to save us all.

Icke points out the idea that the 'solution' is not rallying behind some constructed candidate put before you by the moneyed interests, but to rally together as people who share a common goal in seeking freedom, peace, prosperity and good health. That's something to fight for.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 10:33:59 am
For something very different, try Adam Curtis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Curtis) newest documentary film Hyper-Normalisation
I must warn you its is a 3 hour film, although the BBC paid for it - its only been played on the online and only in the UK.

You probably need a big bag of weed and a case of beer if you plan on watching all 3 hours in the one sitting.  ???

Hence this is the Trailer . . .



The other one you probably have never seen is "Bitter Lake"
Here is the first 3 minutes.



This is a bit like Tragedy & Hope getting published, revelation of the method, either by mistake or deliberately would be a rather long and pointless debate.
I suspect they saw the product as "Artistic", they lacked the IQ or patience to see the full 3 hours and lacked the brain power to understand what they had just seen.
Remember the people in charge are the same type of fools who buy into concept art. Those people are not going to say "I did'nt get" and look stupid, of course the emperor is wearing clothes.

How you get hold of full copies, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 08, 2017, 10:35:04 am
Let's see who's cheering about Trump's attack on Syria:

Look who support Trump’s missile strike on Syria
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/04/08/look-who-support-trumps-missile-strike-on-syria/

Posted on April 8, 2017 by Dr. Eowyn

In the early morning hours of April 7, 2017, the Trump administration fired 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles from a U.S. destroyer in the Mediterranean Sea, at Shayrat Air Base in Syria, alleged to be the location from where the Assad government, on April 4, allegedly launched a chemical attack of sarin nerve gas which killed many civilians, including women and children, in the rebel-held town of Khan Shaykhun in Idlib province.

Trump undertook this act of war against the legitimate government of a sovereign state
who has the support of Russia and China:

- without an official investigation of the alleged chemical attack
- without the approval of Congress
- without an act of aggression from the Syrian government against the United States
- without Syria presenting a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States
- without a prior consultation with Russia (or China), and in so not doing, risks WW3 with two world powers.

Here are the prominent Americans who support Trump’s missile attack:

(1) BILL KRISTOL
He who supported a third-party candidate against presidential candidate Trump, who finds Trump’s “America First” nationalism vulgar and embarrassing, who openly advocates a deep-state coup against President Trump — now approves of Trump risking WW3 by firing 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at Syria, without even an investigation as to who’d actually deployed the sarin gas attack.

(https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/bill-kristol-tweet-april-6-2017.png?w=500&h=120)

(2) BRIAN WILLIAMS
The pathological liar and disgraced former NBC anchorman calls Trump’s missile strikes that killed 4 to 17 human beings, a “beautiful” sight:

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4n3SI81m9w

(3) PELOSI & SCHUMER
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D–CA) said, “Tonight’s strike in Syria appears to be a proportional response to the regime’s use of chemical weapons.” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–NY) said, “Making sure Assad knows that when he commits such despicable atrocities he will pay a price is the right thing to do.” (Wikipedia)

(4) A PACK OF RINOS
Senators John McCain (R–AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R–SC) said, “Unlike the previous administration, President Trump confronted a pivotal moment in Syria and took action. For that, he deserves the support of the American people.”

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R–WI) said the strike was “appropriate and just.”

Also Sens. Bob Corker (R-TN), Tom Cotton (R-AR), Joni Ernst (R-IA), Cory Gardner (R-CO), Orin Hatch (R-UT), David Perdue (R-GA), Marco Rubio (R-FL), Ben Sasse (R-NE), and Thom Tillis (R-NC).  (Wikipedia)

(5) HILLARY CLINTON
Yesterday, April 7, speaking to a crowd of supporters in Houston, Texas, Clinton applauds Trump’s missile strikes and urges him to undertake even more U.S. military action to take out Assad — and open America’s doors to Syrian refugees:

“The action taken last night needs to be followed by a broader strategy to end Syria’s civil war . . . . So I hope this administration will move forward [and] . . . recognize that they cannot in one breath speak of protecting Syrian babies and in the next close America’s doors to them.”

VIDEO: https://youtu.be/eHZYtci6HkQ

(6) THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
CNN Money reports, April 7, 2017, that Raytheon, the company that makes the Tomahawk missiles used in Trump’s air strikes on Syria, rose in early stock trading Friday. Investors are betting that Trump’s air strike means the Pentagon will need more Tomahawks.

The Department of Defense asked for $2 billion over five years to buy 4,000 Tomahawks for the U.S. Navy in its fiscal 2017 budget last February.

Nearly five dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched at military bases in Syria from U.S. warships in the Mediterranean Sea late Thursday.

Raytheon(RTN) wasn’t the only defense stock rising Friday either. Lockheed Martin (LMT), which partners with Raytheon on the Javelin missile launcher system and also makes Hellfire missiles, gained nearly 1%.

And so, Donald Trump finally achieves bipartisan support . . . . Sarc/

I have a question for all the conservatives out there who support Trump’s missile strike against the Assad government:

Weren’t you adamantly AGAINST Obama wanting to attack Assad in 2013?
Then, as now, the conditions are the same. Then, as now, the excuse for U.S. military action is Assad’s alleged chemical attacks and those poor little children.

So what has changed to account for your enthusiastic support to attack Syria now?

And how does launching 59 cruise missiles at Syria — only 23 (or 40%) of which actually hit the target — at a cost of $114.5 million (each Tomahawk costs $1.94 million), Make America Great Again?

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Russia says will shootdown any US Aircraft.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 11:28:38 am
Russia warns it will shoot down alliance jets over Syria if US launches air strikes against Assad
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/06/russian-air-defence-missiles-would-respond-if-us-launches-air-st/

Wikipeda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300VM

Russian forces could shoot down coalition jets if the United States launches airstrikes against pro-government forces in Syria, the Russian ministry of defence has said.

American officials have reportedly discussed using limited airstrikes to force Bashar al-Assad’s government to halt its assault on Aleppo and return the negotiating table after a ceasefire collapsed last month.

In Moscow’s starkest warning yet against Western intervention in the war, Russia’s chief military spokesman said that any airstrikes on government-held territory in Syria would be considered a “clear threat” to Russian servicemen.



US military planners should “carefully consider the possible consequences” of such action, Major General Igor Konashenkov said in a statement on Thursday.

“Today, the Syrian army has effective S-200, Buk and other air defense systems, which have undergone technical renovation in the past year,” he said.

“I remind US 'strategists' that air cover for the Russian military bases in Tartus and Hmeymim includes S-400 and S-300 anti aircraft missile systems, the range of which may come as a surprise to any unidentified flying objects,” he added.

Russian air defence troops would not have time to identify the flight path of incoming rockets or aircraft that fired them, and would respond immediately, Maj. Gen. Konashenkov added.




Officials from the State Department, CIA, and Joint Chiefs of Staff discussed using limited airstrikes to pressure Bashar al-Assad to halt an assault on Aleppo and return to the negotiating table at a meeting in the White House last week, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday.

The discussion came after the United States suspended bilateral consultations with Russia over Syria, saying that Moscow had failed to live up to commitments to rein in a ferocious aerial and ground assault on the opposition-held eastern districts of Aleppo.

Russia earlier rejected a calls from John Kerry, the US Secretary of State, for a total suspension of military flights over Syria in order to restore the ceasefire.

Moscow blames the collapse of a short lived ceasefire on a US-led alliance airstrike that mistakenly killed dozens of Syrian government soldiers on September 17. Maj. Gen Konashenkov said measures had been taken to prevent a repetition of such “mistakes.”

The US believes Russia and the Syrian regime destroyed the ceasefire when they bombed a humanitarian convoy in revenge.


Russia announced the deployment of the S-330 VM, an advanced anti-aircraft missile that can also intercept cruise missiles, to Syria on Tuesday.

Thursday's warning came as the Russian foreign ministry appeared to accuse the United States of involvement in a mortar attack on its Damascus embassy.

No one was hurt in the attack on Monday, which saw several rounds landed in the compound of the Russian embassy. The ministry said it believed the shells had been fired from a rebel-held neighbourhood.

“We see links between this terror attack and the threats Washington issued against us earlier,” said Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for the Russian foreign ministry.

She was referring to comments by John Kirby, a US State Department spokesman who  said last week that Russia had an interest in stopping the violence in Syria because extremists could exploit the vacuum there and launch attacks "against Russian interests, perhaps even Russian cities."


There has been mounting speculation in the Russian media that the crisis in Syria could lead to military confrontation or even war with the United States. 

Several newspapers have run prominent features asking whether Russia would act to protect her Syrian allies in the event of US airstrikes against pro-government troops or infrastructure.


The implications, many have noted, are alarming.

“If Moscow is silent, her geopolitical significance will be reduced to zero. If she answers – that is already a big war,” warned Nezavisimaya Gazeta noted on Thursday.

Semen Bagsadov, director of the Centre for Middle East and Central Asian Studies, told Moskovsky Komsomolets, a tabloid, that the Soviet Union had downed US aircraft over Korea and Vietnam without triggering a Third World War.

Others, however, have urged caution. Konstantin Sivkov, an expert at the Russian artillery academy, told the independent NSN new agency that war was unlikely because the United States could wipe out Russia’s air contingent in Syria “in a few days.”

Spiraling tensions between the US and Russia appeared to reach a peak this week when Vladimir Putin suspended a plutonium reprocessing deal because of “unfriendly” American policies.



(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/10/06/110372536_FILE_-_In_this_Tuesday_Aug_27_2013_file_photo_Russian_air_defense_system_missile_system_An-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq5yQLQqeH37t50SCyM4-zeGtT0gK_6EfZT336f62EI5U.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 08, 2017, 11:59:19 am
^^^

... scary talk ... but it is 6 months old.
Surely, Mad Dog is not wanting to provoke
Russia to that degree ... they did, reportedly,
alarm Russia of the impending Tomahawk barrage.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 12:02:40 pm
^^^

... scary talk ... but it is 6 months old.
Surely, Mad Dog is not wanting to provoke
Russia to that degree ... they did, reportedly,
alarm Russia of the impending Tomahawk barrage.

Even older

    The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.

    The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.

    The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

    Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

    Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

    This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 08, 2017, 12:27:53 pm
^^^^

    Yes, the muslim Apocalypse from the 19th C., perspective
of Albert Pike. It was clear then that it was coming ... we just
do not want this to be another self-fullfilled prophecy ... but
if it must be, the world is dividing between those who want
to bring it to a conclusion ASAP and those who wish to appease,
sweep under the rug, pray for the Second Coming.

But, Pike could not have forseen the 'Information Age', the Internet,
the staggering laying bare of the Masonic Order/Illuminati, etc.,
for all to see.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 08, 2017, 01:04:34 pm
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Albert_Pike_memorial_statue.jpg/220px-Albert_Pike_memorial_statue.jpg)
Albert Pike
Confederate States Army general and Freemason
Albert Pike (December 29, 1809 – April 2, 1891) was an attorney, soldier, writer, and Freemason.
Albert Pike is the only Confederate military officer
with an outdoor statue in Washington, D.C


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Morals_and_Dogma_eagle.jpg)

From the cover of Pike's book, Morals and Dogma (1871)

Ordo ab Chao ... Order out of Chaos.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 08, 2017, 01:24:08 pm
^^^

... I wonder where the 'order' went?   ;D
Title: Re: Open for business: Syrian airbase attcked by Trump flying missions
Post by: Q on Apr 08, 2017, 01:26:49 pm
The target of Trump's night of the small hands launching long missiles, the Shayrat airbase, is already flying missions.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/syrian-air-base-donald-trump

Title: Re: Open for business: Syrian airbase attcked by Trump flying missions
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 01:50:55 pm
The target of Trump's night of the small hands launching long missiles, the Shayrat airbase, is already flying missions.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/syrian-air-base-donald-trump

Bad news for ISIS and the White House.



Title: Re: Open for business: Syrian airbase attcked by Trump flying missions
Post by: Q on Apr 08, 2017, 02:10:15 pm
Bad news for ISIS and the White House.

Some people forgot that the White House is allied with Isis (and all other globalist operations), regardless of who the current tenant is.
Title: Re: Open for business: Syrian airbase attcked by Trump flying missions
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 02:40:25 pm
Some people forgot that the White House is allied with Isis (and all other globalist operations), regardless of who the current tenant is.




Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 03:36:57 pm
^^^^

    Yes, the muslim Apocalypse from the 19th C., perspective
of Albert Pike. It was clear then that it was coming ... we just
do not want this to be another self-fullfilled prophecy ... but
if it must be, the world is dividing between those who want
to bring it to a conclusion ASAP and those who wish to appease,
sweep under the rug, pray for the Second Coming.

But, Pike could not have forseen the 'Information Age', the Internet,
the staggering laying bare of the Masonic Order/Illuminati, etc.,
for all to see.

So to summarize :

You know the whole muslim thing was planned by the illuminati years ago as illustrated prev.
Your conclusion is to accelerate and go flat out with the illuminati plan.

Do I need to tell you what we think of that idea as a battleplan ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Kremlin announces cartoon competition to mock Boris
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 05:36:33 pm

Boris the 'poodle' is savaged by the Kremlin: Foreign Secretary is accused of 'making up absurd excuses' to pull out of Moscow summit on Syrian war


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4393954/Boris-poodle-savaged-Kremlin.html

The Kremlin launched a furious attack on Boris Johnson yesterday after he cancelled a Moscow summit on the Syrian war.

Russia accused the Foreign Secretary of ‘making up absurd excuses’ after he made way for Donald Trump to lead the diplomatic drive. And at home, opponents dubbed him a ‘poodle’ of Washington.

But Mr Johnson, who was due to fly to the country today, insisted he had axed the trip to enable US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to deliver ‘a clear and co-ordinated message’ to Vladimir Putin.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/08/21/3F152FD600000578-0-image-a-3_1491682948344.jpg)

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - doing an Obama impersonation
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 08, 2017, 05:42:46 pm
Meanwhile our glorious leader is doing an Obama Impersonation, you know lives on the Golf Course.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/08/21/3F14EA8E00000578-4393946-image-a-2_1491684198972.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 08, 2017, 09:13:07 pm
So to summarize :

You know the whole muslim thing was planned by the illuminati years ago as illustrated prev.
Your conclusion is to accelerate and go flat out with the illuminati plan.

Do I need to tell you what we think of that idea as a battleplan ?

... well I don't buy that it was 'planned' by a small group of
wacky big pockets guys in the 19th century. This was an
inevitable 'clash of civilizations' ... EAST vs WEST ... that
had major flareups/clashes before, with major incursions
into the West, Ottoman Empire, etc. I believe Pike (if
that letter is authentic - I have researched and posted
about it at PPF - but I wonder ... he mentions NAZIs in 1871!)
was simply 'prophesizing' ... reading the tea leaves.
It's puzzling to me how informed folks can't see the obvious
multi-century frictions that have heated up now and is
bursting into flames ... no kindling needed by Mr. Rothschild.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 08, 2017, 10:44:58 pm

Increasingly Likely Rebels Were Storing Chemical
Weapons and Syrian Jets Hit Warehouse

Why else would victims show evidence of exposure to multiple poison gases?
RI Staff - Apr 7, 2017

Have you ever heard of a bomb that combines two poison gases? No? Neither have we.

That's curious because in the April 4 Khan Shaikhun incident in Syria, chemical weapons were supposedly delivered by an air strike, specifically an Su-22 attack jet.

Except Doctors Without Borders (by no means a pro-Assad outfit) are saying that "victims bodies show evidence of two chemical weapons used".

Call us crazy but that would be perfectly consistent with the explanation the Russians provided initially (and US dismissed out of hand): that Khan Shaikhun was a storehouse for rebel chemical weapons that was hit by conventional explosive bombs by the Syrian army.

How else to account for victims having been exposed to sarin and chlorine both? An attack combining the two would make little sense, but two toxins would absolutely be stored together if the opposition indeed had both.

Indeed, a former DIA and CIA officer Philip Giraldi has raised alarm. He is saying that his friends still in the intelligence agencies consider the narrative that Assad did it a "sham" and considered going public to stop Trump's strike. According to Giraldi the US officers familiar with the intelligence actually subscribe to the Russian explanation that Syrian jets hit a rebel storage facility.

Finally, the official who led the UN-backed operation to remove Syria’s chemical weapons in 2013, one Jerry Smith, is adamant the possibility that poison gases were released when a rebel chemical weapons storage facility was hit by a conventional Syrian bomb can not be dismissed. See his appearance at Britain's Channel 4: Link» https://www.channel4.com/news/syria-chemical-attack-reaction

http://russia-insider.com/en/incresingly-likely-rebels-had-gas-and-syrian-jets-hit-storehouse/ri19491
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Chemical Weapons Containers at Syrian Airfield - Debunked
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 03:19:21 am
Chemical Weapons Containers at Bombed Syrian Airfield - Debunked !

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Calling Putin's Military Bluff ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 03:41:49 am
Here is the latest "narrative" . . .
Putin's is WEAK
SAFE to attack Putin


Weakened Putin's last great bluff:
Military experts dismiss Russian president's threats to block further US attacks on Syria, saying he's desperate to avoid a clash with America
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4394198/Experts-dismiss-Putin-s-threats-block-attacks.html

All 59 US Tomahawk missiles fired from the USS Ross and USS Porter in the Mediterranean slipped through Syria’s primitive S-300 defence system on their way to the Shayrat military airfield near Homs on Friday morning.



LIES of the 59 missiles, 36 got shot down.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - British say Putin MUST leave Syria
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 04:21:34 am
Boris Johnson . . .
The idiotic headline says it all . . .
Trump Fanboyz who spun the 4D Chess take note . . .
Appeasement of Washington Hawks only encourages the bullies

Boris Johnson to spearhead diplomatic drive to get Russian forces out of Syria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/boris-johnson-spearhead-diplomatic-drive-get-russian-forces/


I guess he did not like the Cartoon Competiton to mock Boris announced by Kremlin ;-)

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Drone Camera over Bombed Airbase
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 04:37:24 am
Russian Drone footage of Shayrat base after US airstrike


Drone footage of Shayrat airbase, after the US had launched Tomahawk missiles at the base. According to the statement, the US missiles killed 6 people and destroyed a training facility, a material storage depot, a canteen, six MiG-23 aircraft in repair hangars and a radar station. Meanwhile, the airbase’s runway, taxiways and aircraft on the parking apron remained undamaged.

 Only 23 out of 59 Tomahawk missiles reached their target.

 Chief of the Directorate of Media service and Information of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation, Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov described the combat efficiency of the strike as “quite poor” and added that the US actions were “a gross violation” of the memorandum of understanding on flight safety in Syria between Russia and the United States. Russian Defence Minsitry said they are going to upgrade Syrian air defence.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Journalist speaks the candid truth
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 04:44:24 am
IF you do not watch any pf the other videos I posted
(understandable)
Make Sure You Watch this one !


What is really going on in Syria
Exclusive interview with British Journalist Tom Duggan in Damascus at the French Hospital tells us about the chemical attacks accusations.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Clash of Civilisations ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 04:58:31 am
... well I don't buy that it was 'planned' by a small group of
wacky big pockets guys in the 19th century. This was an
inevitable 'clash of civilizations' ... EAST vs WEST ... that
had major flareups/clashes before, with major incursions
into the West, Ottoman Empire, etc.
I believe Pike (if
that letter is authentic - I have researched and posted
about it at PPF - but I wonder ... he mentions NAZIs in 1871!)
was simply 'prophesizing' ... reading the tea leaves.
It's puzzling to me how informed folks can't see the obvious
multi-century frictions that have heated up now and is
bursting into flames ... no kindling needed by Mr. Rothschild.


Clash of Civilisations ?

The goal of ISIS and the Illuminati - and you are in favour ?
Just whose side do you think you are on ?

Next there is no Islamic Empire to clash with, just the inheritance of a post-colonial middle east shattered into at least a hundred different factions.
Who did that - why Henry Kissinger . . . is he your poster boy hero ?


“He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.
He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”
― Martin Luther King Jr.



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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Appeasement 4D Chess continues to get debunked . . .
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 05:32:39 am

The Appeasement 4D Chess continues to get debunked . . . as now the narrative morphs to Regime Change


TRUMP'S WORLD VISION:
President wants to defeat ISIS AND oust Assad, reveals ambassador

US President Donald Trump wants to oust Syrian despot Bashir al-Assad and eliminate the terrorist threat from Islamic State (ISIS), according to the American ambassador to the United Nations.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/789730/Trump-Syria-ISIS-Assad-regime-change-Tillerson
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - how accurate was this prediction ? [ SouthFront ]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 06:37:37 am
Escalation Scenario Of Conflict In Syria - SouthFront

This is a repost of a video dated Nov 2016 - so just how accurate was this prediction ?

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Kushner v Bannon - Peace Talks or Damage Control ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 06:42:29 am
This one is strictly a straw to grasp for the Trump Fans, for everybody else its blatant damage control by an anonymous spin doctor

Donald Trump's feuding aides Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon meet to 'bury the hatchet'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/09/donald-trumps-feuding-aides-jared-kushner-steve-bannon-meet/


Top White House aides Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner met and agreed to "bury the hatchet" over their differences, a senior administration official said on Saturday, in a bid to stop infighting that has distracted from President Donald Trump's message.

Mr Bannon, Trump's chief strategist, and Mr Kushner, an influential adviser and Trump's son-in-law, met on Friday at the request of White House chief of staff Reince Priebus who told them that if they have any policy differences, they should air them internally, the official said.

The development at the president's Mar-a-Lago retreat in Palm Beach, Florida, came at the end of what has been a relatively smooth week for Mr Trump.

Mr Trump ordered airstrikes against Syrian targets that drew praise in many parts of the world and staged an error-free summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping, complete with his wife, Melania, wearing a red dress to symbolise the main colour of the Chinese flag.

Mr Priebus' message to Mr Bannon and Mr Kushner was to "stop with the palace intrigue" and focus on the president's agenda, the official told Reuters.


Both aides left having agreed that it was time to "bury the hatchet and move forward," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Four former advisers to the president said Mr Trump is accustomed to chaos in his decades-long career as a real estate developer but that even he has grown weary of the infighting.

"He's got a long fuse for that kind of thing," said one former adviser. "I imagine he has gotten tired of this."

The White House dismissed persistent talk that Mr Trump might be on the verge of a staff shakeup. "The only thing we are shaking up is the way Washington operates as we push the president's aggressive agenda forward," spokeswoman Lindsay Walters said.


The Trump White House has been a hotbed of palace intrigue since he took office on January 20. But the drama has intensified after the failed effort to get healthcare legislation approved by the House of Representatives and the rocky rollout of an executive order attempting to temporarily ban citizens of six Muslim-majority nations from entering the United States.

Mr Bannon, former chief of the conservative news organisation Breitbart News, has been at odds with Mr Kushner and Gary Cohn, the head of the White House National Economic Council, an administration official and the four former advisers said.

The former Trump advisers said Mr Kushner, husband of Mr Trump's daughter Ivanka Trump, is trying to tug the president into a more mainstream position, while Mr Bannon is trying to keep aflame the nationalist fervour that carried Trump to his unexpected election victory on November 8.




Mr Bannon is getting some of the blame for the administration's early stumbles because, one former adviser said, "The president demands results."In what was viewed as a sign of Bannon's declining influence, he was removed from his seat on the National Security Council this week. Administration officials said this was done at the urging of national security adviser H.R. McMaster, with whom Mr Bannon had clashed.

Some of the former Trump advisers said Mr Priebus is at fault for not gaining control of the feuding and said Mr Cohn, a former Goldman Sachs executive, would be a candidate to replace him.

Mr Priebus is the former chairman of the Republican National Committee and bucked many in his party by putting the weight of the RNC behind Trump when it was clear he would be the party's presidential nominee.

“"Reince is chief of staff," said a source familiar with the issue. "He's not going anywhere."


Republican strategist Charlie Black, who has known Trump for 30 years, said he did not think a shakeup was imminent and that Trump's White House reflects his traditional approach to running his business.

"He's always had a spokes-to-the-wheel management style," said Black. "He wants people with differing views among the spokes."

Bill Daley, a former White House chief of staff to President Barack Obama, who got pushed out in a shakeup himself after roughly a year into the job, said it appears that inside the Trump White House there's a struggle for "the soul and brain of the president."


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - R U beginning to see a pattern ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 07:14:27 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Luke Rudkowski - We Are Change
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 07:59:37 am
Luke Rudowski - We Are Change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeq2uay6ZCY

In this video, Luke Rudkowski goes over the biggest lies and deception that both Donald Trump and the mainstream media are pushing on the American people with the latest breaking news.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Trump’s Troll Army Isn’t Ready for War in Syria
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 08:11:04 am
Trump’s Troll Army Isn’t Ready for War in Syria
The alt-right crowd breaks with the president.
By Ben Schreckinger
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-alt-right-syria-war-214998
April 07, 2017



The fractured elements of what was once called the alt-right were unified once more on Thursday night in condemning Donald Trump’s airstrike in Syria as a mistake. Or as Milo Yiannopoulos put it, “FAKE and GAY.”

This loose confederation of Web-savvy, anti-establishment right-wingers formed an important vanguard of Trump’s online support in last year’s election, and its unified opposition to the airstrike forewarns a political downside to intervention in Syria. While foreign wars tend to boost presidents’ popularity in the short term, Trump risks losing the segments of his base that flocked to his isolationist, “America First” message.

In addition to its nationalist, anti-interventionist and anti-“globalist” views, the alt-right and its fellow travelers have also displayed a marked affinity for Syria’s ally Russia, whose government has returned the love by tweeting images of the alt-right's mascot, Pepe the Frog, from official accounts. In reacting to the airstrikes, leaders of the movement placed those ideological reflexes over their personal loyalty to Trump.

Most noteworthy were the herculean efforts of blogger Mike Cernovich, who took to the livestreaming application Periscope to rally opposition to the strike in a marathon session that went on for several hours.

Just days after Donald Trump Jr. suggested he be given a Pulitzer Prize, Cernovich tweeted, “Sources telling me U.S. attack in Syria planned for tonight, we must stop! #NoMoreWar,” at 7:40 pm Eastern time, an hour and a half before NBC News broke the news of the airstrike.

During the course of the livestream Cernovich — at times holding his infant daughter Cyra in his arms — blamed a variety of actors for fomenting the conflict. “They want war. Deep state, all these people want it, man,” he said. Of the media, he said, “They’re trying to con Trump into believing the people want war.”

Cernovich also expressed his belief that Syrian dictator Bashar Assad had been framed for the chemical attack, though he had not decided by whom. “It was probably ISIS did it to themselves,” he said on the livestream, while also tweeting, “Did McCain give ‘moderate rebels’ (ISIS) in Syria poison gas and Hollywood style film equipment?”

Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes, founder of pro-Trump “Western chauvinist fraternal organization” the Proud Boys, joined Cernovich as a guest via Skype, and shared his skepticism. To illustrate a parallel from his own life, McInnes recounted a story in which he said a female friend accused a man of rape and McInnes violently confronted the man, only to be convinced by the man’s incredulous response that he was not guilty of rape. (In a text message, McInnes, who left Vice a decade ago, maintained his skepticism about the source of the chemical weapons attack but signaled support for Trump’s response).

Earlier in the day, alt-right online philosopher Stefan Molyneux also joined Cernovich to condemn the action and question whether Assad was really responsible for the chemical weapons attack.

Other callers offered even more disturbing theories. One man expressed his concern that the “deep state” had approached Trump and threatened to kill him and his family if he did not get in line and voiced his suspicion that “the whole thing” could be traced back to Barack Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice. “Yeah, could be,” responded Cernovich.

Others who have been associated with the alt-right were similarly dismayed by the news.

Yiannopoulos — who has kept a low profile since losing a CPAC speaking gig and a six-figure book deal over revelations that he once spoke favorably of pederasty — declined to elaborate on a text message describing the airstrike as “FAKE and GAY.”

White nationalist Richard Spencer, whose embrace of hard-core racism has led Yiannopoulos and others to distance themselves from the “alt-right” label, displayed no such reticence, calling the strike “a sad, shocking and deeply frustrating moment.”

“I condemn the strikes,” he said. “I’m going to wait and see. Perhaps Trump is slapping Assad across the nose and won’t go further. Perhaps Russia was informed of the attacks. Worst-case scenario: We’re replaying the 2000s: A conservative comes to office on a populist message and becomes a globalist and neocon shill. Again, I’ll wait and see but I’m prepared to denounce Trump."

Spencer was not alone in vacillating between condemnations of the strike and expressing hope that Trump will not take further action against Assad. The anonymous alt-right Twitter troll Ricky Vaughn tweeted, “THERE IS NO ENDGAME IN SYRIA if we remove Assad. No leader that can hold together that country.” He also tweeted, “Hoping this is 88D chess giving Trump political space and an excuse for meeting with and negotiating with Putin.”

Over on The_Donald subreddit, a central hangout for Trump’s alt-right fans, debate raged all night. One poster attempted to douse the discontent by writing, “Calm the f**K down all you concern trolls. This isnt WWW3 - its trump putting America first. We need to stop Assad from killing his people. They flee and guess where they are going?” The /pol/ section of the message board site 4Chan, another hotbed of online Trump support, was similarly torn asunder by the news, with one poster writing, “/pol/ hates Trump now. What happened?”

Meanwhile, internet troll Charles Johnson was not prepared to accept that the U.S. really had struck at Assad, saying that a source at CENTCOM told him the strike had actually targeted the Islamic State. “I’m very skeptical of any claims made in the media on military matters,” he said. “Especially since the Iraq War.”
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 09, 2017, 08:37:52 am
... thanks, EG ... you have been busy ... great links
on these last few posts. There is no doubt that
Trump is in real danger of losing the 'deplorable'
base over this stupid move ... he, in our view, has
gone over to the dark side. The POLITICO story has much
truth in it, but it is not that we don't want to 'intervene'
in the Syrian/ISIS war ... WE DO! We want to 'bomb
the sh!t' out of ISIS like the Donald said a million times
on the campaign trail. But he has 'bombed the sh!t out of'
the WRONG side!

T-REX is going to Moscow soon for talks with Putin. That
is a good thing. I hope (believe is too strong a word) that
this airstrip bombing was a TRUMPed up move to make
some leeway with Russia, in ways that I can't fathom.
Maybe the Uber-Dealmaker has something unknown
and momentous up his sleeve.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 09:22:41 am
... thanks, EG ... you have been busy ... great links
on these last few posts.

Thank you.

I will now disappear in the hopes that 2 x dozen posts will appear while I am off in the garden.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 09, 2017, 10:31:22 am
When a game of golf is not a game of golf...

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2hWRSLc_go&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 11:27:27 am
When a game of golf is not a game of golf...

I only made my remark about Trump and Golf earlier because for 8 yrs we listened to how Obama spent his life on the Golf course.

Never thought anything about what is below the ground . . . deep investigative journalism, I'm impressed.
Title: Re: Russia Deploys Ships To North Atlantic For “Training”
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 09, 2017, 11:35:23 am
Yes - that was a shocker to me; but makes perfect sense... good hiding place. I wonder when they put one under the course at mar-a-lago??? Or has he been playing on some other course ... note the CNN reporter posing as NOT a CNN reporter; too much.

But now...

Russia Deploys Ships To North Atlantic For “Training”
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/russia-deploys-ships-to-north-atlantic-for-training.html
TOPICS:Brandon TurbevilleMilitaryRussiaSyria
APRIL 8, 2017

By Brandon Turbeville

After the United States launched its illegal assault on the Syrian military’s al-Sha’aryat airbase Thursday evening, the Russian response consisted of eliminating the “deconfliction channels” between the United States and Russia as well as by deploying the Admiral Grigorovich frigate to the Mediterranean.

The ship is to position itself between the ships that fired the Tomahawk missiles. It will also visit the Russian logistics base in Tartus, Syria.

The Russian Defense Ministry also stated that Syrian air defenses will be beefed up as a result of the American aggression.

While not directly in the Syrian theatre, Russia has now announced that it will be sending Corvette Boykiy and Sobrazitelny, tugboat MB-123 and tanker Kola of the Baltic Fleet to the North Atlantic.

The stated goal of the ships’ presence is for military training, a plausible reason for deployment.

However, given the situation surrounding Syria and the escalation of American aggression, some are wondering if the ships aren’t in the North Atlantic for another more strategic reason, such as reconnaissance and deterrence.

The Russian Military website announced the destination of the ships by writing: (continued) (http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/russia-deploys-ships-to-north-atlantic-for-training.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? -BBC GUEST REFUSES TO GO ALONG WITH THE PROPAGANDA! lol
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 11:54:25 am
ANOTHER BBC GUEST REFUSES TO GO ALONG WITH THE PROPAGANDA!

Some wonderful lines as the BBC controller attempts to steer the guest . . .

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Golf Joke
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 01:04:26 pm
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: tahoeblue on Apr 09, 2017, 02:16:56 pm
https://www.infowars.com/mccain-rand-paul-doesnt-have-any-real-influence-in-senate/
McCain: Rand Paul ‘Doesn’t Have Any Real Influence’ In Senate
I don’t pay any attention to what Senator Paul says.”
Daily Caller -  April 9, 2017
...
This comes as Paul has been a critic of President Trump’s ordered strike on Syria without Congressional approval. Paul called the move “illegal” and “unconstitutional.”

McCain supported the strikes and supports further action in Syria as well, saying that the airstrikes were a “beginning.”
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 02:50:06 pm
Since it is coming from Insane McCain, it has to be taken as a sick joke.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Alex Jones preaches faith in Trump
Post by: Q on Apr 09, 2017, 05:13:14 pm
I tuned in to the Alex Jones show to find out what his latest spin would be, and it is essentially this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qPWkjk5nNc


(embed please)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 05:38:55 pm
What is going plz ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Alex Jones preaches faith in Trump
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 05:45:20 pm
I tuned in to the Alex Jones show to find out what his latest spin would be, and it is essentially this:

I just tuned in, and they are saying a big ground offensive is under way - yet they are not talking about it.
Instead they are talking about some episode of The West Wing,

I'm lost.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 05:50:04 pm
Meanwhile in the real world, this is what the Russian Embassy tweeted

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - MAX HASTINGS
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 05:56:37 pm
I met him on the train home once, had a chat but that was a very, very, long time ago.

Now is the time for cool heads rather than gung-ho western politicians making matters worse as Rottweiler Putin sees hopes of acquiescence from Trump evaporate says MAX HASTINGS
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4396118/Now-time-cool-heads-Putin-Trump.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Daily Mail now suggests it might be a False Flag ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 09, 2017, 05:58:21 pm
There's a terrifying sense of deja vu as the Generals take over the White House and guide us towards another war (despite no-one knowing if it was Assad who used sarin on those civilians) says JOHN R BRADLEY
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4396138/Generals-taking-White-House-says-JOHN-R-BRADLEY.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: tahoeblue on Apr 09, 2017, 06:26:42 pm
https://www.infowars.com/theyre-terrified-that-peace-was-going-to-break-out-ron-paul-on-us-syria-strike/
‘They’re terrified that peace was going to break out’ – Ron Paul on US Syria strike
Speaking to RT, Ron Paul said that there is no proof of Damascus’ guilt that could trigger such a rash and violent response from the US
RT -  April 9, 2017 

“A victory of neo-conservatives” – that’s how Ron Paul, a former member of the US House of Representatives and three-time presidential candidate, described the US strike on Syria, adding that he does not expect peace talks to resume any time soon.

Speaking to RT, Ron Paul said that there is no proof of Damascus’ guilt that could trigger such a rash and violent response from the US.

“I don’t think the evidence is there, at least it hasn’t been presented, and they need a so-called excuse, they worked real hard, our government and their coalition.”
...
“The peace talks have ended now. They’re terrified that peace was going to break out! Al-Qaeda was on the run, peace talks were happening, and all of a sudden, they had to change, and this changes things dramatically! I don’t expect peace talks anytime soon or in the distant future.”
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 09, 2017, 07:08:55 pm
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 09, 2017, 07:25:20 pm
It’s WMD All Over Again. Why Don’t You See It? – Editorial
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2017/04/its-wmd-all-over-again-why-dont-you-see-it-.html

Actually knowing something, remembering history or having experience of the world is becoming a disadvantage. How much easier it would be to join in with the flow of opinion about Syria, to listen happily to, and read contentedly, media reports on the subject.

As it is, I feel something close to a physical pain as I do this.

Today’s frenzy over alleged use of poison gas in Syria is the 2017 version of Anthony Blair’s WMD in Iraq. Why can you not see it? Did you think they would do it in exactly the same way again? You are being assailed through your emotions, to act first and think long after, and far too late.

How *can* trained journalists (and experienced diplomats) be so lacking in the desire or ability to question what they are told? How come that they accept without hesitation reports which have not come from their own staff, but instead come from within terrifying war zones where gangs of fanatical murderers are the only law? One or two at least have the decency to refer to the new reports of gas attacks as ‘suspected’ or alleged, but most present them as established fact. ‘All the hallmarks’ means in such cases what? Though millions believe this has been proven, past accusations of gas use by Damascus have never been independently shown to be true.

Well, how can facts *be* independently established about such events? Not easily. Alas, that makes it appalling simple to make propaganda without ever facing serious checks .

The pressures on anyone communicating with western media from such places can only be imagined.

And then there is this simple point. Why would the Syrian government use gas at this stage in a war it has recently begun to win with conventional munitions? You don’t have to believe that the Assad state is saintly to ask this question, and I don’t believe that. Please see http://dailym.ai/2h1XZAv Carla del Ponte, for the UN, has in the past accused the *rebels* of gas use http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10039672/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-of-chemical-weapons-use.html

Wicked and brutal they may well be, but they would have to be stupid and possibly mad to do such a thing, just as an important conference convenes in Brussels https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/news_corner/news/brussels-conference-supporting-future-syria-and-region-4-5-april-2017_en to discuss the future of Syria.

The military advantages would be tiny . Chemical weapons have not been widely used since the 1914-18 war not because soldiers have been especially tender, but because, though very nasty, they are not an especially effective weapon of war. In the 1939-45 war, many barbarous things were done , especially by largely lawless nations such as Germany and Japan, and indeed by the USSR. But gas was not used on the battlefield.

The political and diplomatic disadvantages would be huge. If Syria could be shown ( as it has not yet been) to have used gas to kill children, it would mean total diplomatic isolation, and renewed calls in Britain and the USA (which only a few days ago abandoned its aim of overthrowing Assad http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/us-assad-syria-ambassador-un-nikki-haley-a7659266.html ) to intervene against Assad. 

Well, here are some thoughts as to why this has happened now. This has come just as Russian policy in the area had begun to look successful. That would never do.  Never underestimate the current desire in western foreign policy circles to increase hostility between Russia and the USA.  It comes as Britain’s absurdly close and servile client relationship to the despotic and aggressive (ask a Yemeni) Saudi Regime is underlined by a visit to Riyadh by Theresa May. And it comes as Egypt’s tyrant General Sisi, who we are not allowed to call a military dictator, though he is, and whose forces gunned down hundreds of demonstrators in Cairo, visits Washington.

Two points occur. One, the western powers , by consorting with such people, demonstrate that their exaggerated disgust at the Assad government is selective and unreal. Two, they demonstrate that our continuing desire to be on good terms with Saudi Arabia lies beneath our whole foreign policy in this region. And which state loathes President Assad more than anyone? Why, Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, which despises Assad for his Alawite heresy, and hates him for his alliance with Shia Iran.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 09, 2017, 07:51:17 pm
Assad Hates ISIS. So Does The US. Let’s Overthrow Him!
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/assad-palm-sunday-us-assad/
By ROD DREHER • April 9, 2017, 1:36 PM

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St. Mark’s Coptic Cathedral, Alexandria. Site of a Palm Sunday bombing (Jim David/Shutterstock)

Palm Sunday for Christians in Egypt: (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/09/world/middleeast/explosion-egypt-coptic-christian-church.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0)
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Suicide bombers attacked two Coptic churches in Egypt on Palm Sunday, killing at least 40 worshipers and police officers stationed outside, in the deadliest day of violence against Christians in the country in decades.

The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for both attacks in a statement via its Aamaq news agency, having recently signaled its intention to escalate a campaign of violence against Egyptian Christians.

The first explosion occurred about 9:30 at St. George’s Church in the Nile Delta city of Tanta, 50 miles north of Cairo, during a Palm Sunday Mass. Security officials and a witness said that a suicide bomber had barged past security measures and detonated his explosives in the front pews, near the altar.

At least 27 people were killed and 71 others injured, officials said.

Hours later, a second explosion occurred at the gates of St. Mark’s Cathedral in the coastal city of Alexandria. That blast killed 13 people and wounded 21 others, the Health Ministry said.

The patriarch of the Egyptian Coptic Church, Pope Tawadros II, who is to meet with Pope Francis on his visit to Egypt on April 28 and 29, was in the church at the time but was not injured, the Interior Ministry said.

Palm Sunday inside the head of official Washington: (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/nikki-haley-syria-regime-change-237033)

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U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said Saturday that regime change in Syria is one of the United States’ priorities, adding that Syrian President Bashar Assad “is not the leader” Syria needs.

In an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Haley said ousting Assad is a priority for the U.S., as well as defeating the Islamic State and shrinking Iranian influence.

“This is a complicated situation. There are no easy answers and a political solution is going to have to happen,” Haley said. “There’s not any sort of option where political solution is going to happen with Assad at the head of the regime, if you look at his actions if you look at the situation, it’s going to be hard to see a government that’s peaceful and stable with Assad.”

When asked by host Jake Tapper whether it’s the position of the Trump administration that Assad cannot remain in power, Haley indicated that regime change is possible.

“Regime change is something that we think is going to happen because all of the parties are going to see that Assad is not the leader that needs to be taking place for Syria,” Haley said.

So, having bombed the only meaningful anti-ISIS power center in Syria, we are going to work now towards obliterating it. Because we’re fighting ISIS. Or something. The United States never learns. Fourteen years of screwing up the Middle East with our bad judgment, and we’re going to double down on it, under the leadership of a president who campaigned in part on reversing America’s interventionist approach to the Middle East.

Whatever else might be said of the wicked Bashar al-Assad, he does not set off bombs inside Syrian churches.

Regime change in Syria. My God. We learn nothing. Everyone who voted for Trump hoping that he would have a more sensible foreign policy has now been sold out.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Alex Jones preaches faith in Trump
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 09, 2017, 08:02:47 pm
I just tuned in, and they are saying a big ground offensive is under way - yet they are not talking about it.
Instead they are talking about some episode of The West Wing,

I'm lost.

Basically Alex, and Savage as well, believe that Trump is being mislead.
But here's the thing: if Trump is so easily misled, and willing to fire off missiles at a country that hasn't attacked the us, based on an alleged chemical attack by Assad on his own people, then what kind of judgment does Trump have?

If Trump can be led around like a dog on a chain, then he has no business holding the nuclear codes.
He has no business being president.
Someone better get a grip: Alex is maintaining that Trump has fulfilled all his domestic promises.
Bullsh*t.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Alex Jones preaches faith in Trump
Post by: Boudicca on Apr 09, 2017, 08:29:07 pm
Basically Alex, and Savage as well, believe that Trump is being mislead.
But here's the thing: if Trump is so easily misled, and willing to fire off missiles at a country that hasn't attacked the us, based on an alleged chemical attack by Assad on his own people, then what kind of judgment does Trump have?

If Trump can be led around like a dog on a chain, then he has no business holding the nuclear codes.
He has no business being president.
Someone better get a grip: Alex is maintaining that Trump has fulfilled all his domestic promises.
Bullsh*t.


And everyone here wonders why the prison planet forum is down?
 ::)
Where oh where is John Back from the Club when u need him?
War in Syria would certainly take the sheeple's minds off  Pedogate, wouldn't it?
 No wonder the lamestream media and the Neocons are all breathing a collective sigh of relief. They all get the war they so desperately want, and get off the hook on that one.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 09, 2017, 08:29:21 pm
Report: 40,000 Pro-Assad Christians in Aleppo Fear Return of Rebels
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/12/15/report-40000-pro-assad-christians-aleppo-fear-return-rebels/
by EDWIN MORA
15 Dec 2016

The estimated 40,000 Christians in Aleppo
are not among the civilians who are dreading
the fall of the city to the Russia and Iran-backed
regime of dictator Bashar al Assad,

according to a charity group that helps persecuted Christians.
These Christians instead reportedly fear the return of the rebels to Aleppo, particularly the jihadi coalition known as Jaish Al Fatah, or ‘Army of Conquest,’ that includes the likes of the Syrian al-Qaeda branch formerly known as the Nusra Front before it became Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (Front for the Conquest of the Levant).

Jaish Al Fatah has been “heavily involved” in the battle for Aleppo and the persecution of Christians in the city, claims the charity group Barnabas Fund.

Until recently, Aleppo city had been roughly divided between Assad regime control in the west and rebel control in the east since 2012. (Continued) (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/12/15/report-40000-pro-assad-christians-aleppo-fear-return-rebels/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? ~ Aaron and Melissa Dykes on Truthstream media...
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 09, 2017, 08:45:37 pm
Video by Aaron and Melissa Dykes on Truthstream media...

No More
VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewjo1rgo97I&feature=youtu.be



853x480
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 09, 2017, 09:53:38 pm
^^^

... well done, TRUTHSTREAM.

Remember, at best I am on the fence about this turn of events ...
I'm pretty close to Alex Jones' position I'd say ... question this
entire POS, but give Trump the benefit of the doubt for the time
being. This world is "in a mess" ... there are no easy solutions,
certainly no solutions that will satisfy all sides. A leader has
to sit at the table, read the eyes of the players ... and the
body language, the nuanced communications ... and play
the hand he is dealt. He apparently has decided that NEITHER
side of the war suits him ... he is going to war with ALL of them ...
and wants Russia just out of the way. I know, sounds crazy ...
but war always sounds crazy.

~~~~~~~~

Just for balance, the other side from the OPINION desk at DAILY CALLER:

"Trump’s “message” was heard in North Korea, Moscow, Beijing, Washington,
Tehran and Brussels. I’m sure Japan and Israel were thrilled.
The time for back seat driving is over."


Jim Mattis Was Probably Furious, And All You Can
Talk About Is How Assad Is A Great Guy

GEOFFREY INGERSOLL - 04/09/2017

Jim must have been furious.

It was almost lunchtime in Washington, D.C., Tuesday when President Donald Trump huddled his National Security Council and his top military advisors in the White House. They’re shown images — far more graphic than those shown the public — of children gasping for breath and foaming at the mouth. The Pentagon, relying on radar tracking, shows a Syrian Air Force plane leaving a key airfield and flying over the precise site of the chemical attack multiple times. Open source videos and reports of victims match the time of the flyover.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-releases-flight-path-plane-syria-chemical-attack/story?id=46651125

Intelligence analysts conclude it was sarin gas. The New York Times reports that Trump is visibly “shaken” by the photos of the kids. Trump takes a few more meetings on domestic policy goals, the Times reports, but “aides say the images from Syria — especially those showing the suffering of small children and babies — weigh on him.”

Secretary of Defense James Mattis, who often insists on ditching the prodigious nicknames and honorifics in favor of simply “Jim,” stolidly tells reporters Wednesday that the attack “was a heinous act and will be treated as such.” He had also seen the images. In my brief conversations with Jim, I would say he has well-developed sense of philosophic morality. He protects the innocent. He plays fair. He “didn’t bring artillery.” He certainly doesn’t mind killing the “kind of scum” that “won’t let a little girl learn how to read,” he told me once.

"A day later, Trump authorizes Jim to
launch 59 cruise missiles ..."


Quote
To be clear, George W. Bush did not create ISIS. Neither did B. Hussein Obama.
But President Bashar Al Assad might as well sit on its board of directors.

Let’s go back to the beginning.

ISIS as we know it today got its start in Syria, not Iraq. Partisans would loudly point to the invasion in 2003. More astute, yet still likely partisan, analysts would tie the beginnings of ISIS to the aforementioned Bremer move. National security eggheads on the other side of the aisle would hammer Obama for not securing a status of forces agreement, leading to US forces getting kicked out (yes, kicked out is the right phrase) at the end of 2011.

√ CONTINUE: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/09/jim-mattis-was-probably-furious-and-all-you-can-talk-about-is-how-assad-is-a-great-guy/?utm_campaign=thedcmainpage&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social
Title: Re: Syria ? - HyperNormalisation - Everything was Forever, Until it was No More
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 04:24:56 am
Hyper Normalisation
Here we go . . . weaponized confusion.

Just remember that if Voters need to be informed, this technique's purpose is to leave the Voters confused and uninformed and therefore in paralysis clinging to emotions.
By constantly shifting to a mirror image position, by blowing hot then blowing cold, this is classic Hyper-Normalisation Its a 'new' propaganda technique . . .
Technocrats, complacent radicals, Donald Trump, Utopians and Faustian internet entrepreneurs have conspired to create an unreal world; one whose familiar and often comforting details blind us to its total inauthenticity.

The result is We The People retreat into a simplified, and often completely fake version of the world.
But because it is all around us we accept it as normal.
They want you to give up on the complex "real world" and live in a simple "fake world" that is run by corporations and kept stable by politicians.

No idea is entirely new, it comes from some where, the biggest most obvious example was The Collapse of the Soviet Union. In that it was a surprise and was also expected, because people lived in a propaganda bubble that burst. They knew the world was fake, but they did not mean they comprehended true reality. The Soviets clung to power by keeping people in a confused uninformed state of perpetual lies, this concept has been fully Weaponized to create Hyper Normalisation.

Everything was Forever, Until it was No More: The Last Soviet Generation Summary (http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8102.html)

Soviet socialism was based on paradoxes that were revealed by the peculiar experience of its collapse. To the people who lived in that system the collapse seemed both completely unexpected and completely unsurprising. At the moment of collapse it suddenly became obvious that Soviet life had always seemed simultaneously eternal and stagnating, vigorous and ailing, bleak and full of promise. Although these characteristics may appear mutually exclusive, in fact they were mutually constitutive. This book explores the paradoxes of Soviet life during the period of "late socialism" (1960s-1980s) through the eyes of the last Soviet generation.


Obviously we are not living in the defunct C.C.C.P but we live some where awfully similiar in Hyperreality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality) and many live in a Filter bubble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble). The media might mention occasionally words and phrases Post-truth politics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-truth_politics).

I could attempt to explain more, but it has already been done by Adam Curtis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Curtis) - the man who made "The Power of Nightmares" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares) and "The Trap" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_(TV_series)) You could read his Blog page entry for HyperNormalisation here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/02d9ed3c-d71b-4232-ae17-67da423b5df5)

Lastly, because I am not convinced anyone on the forum will bother to fully read my post, or bother to track down a copy of the documentary, and even if they do all of that be able to fully comprehend a rather complex topic that should blow apart the bubble they choose to live in comfort. It is that choosing to believe rather that searching for the truth that is making me well beyond angry. I know there are a couple of good people left, but we are surrounded by others who gave up searching for the truth. They did that because they prefer an artificial reality where Trump is going to make America Great Again , just like Obama delivered Hope and Change. Since that is operating with out reason on an emotional level, its a bit of a waste of time trying reasoned debate.


TRAILER

VIDEO
IF you can not "find"  a full 3hr copy of HyperNormalisation - just ask me via Private Message.
YouTube does restrictions by country, as does BBC iPlayer, if you can VPN as British you could try http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04b183c/adam-curtis-hypernormalisation

FULL DOC


Examples I found this morning that triggered me to write all of this :

Syrian people should decide Assad’s fate, Tillerson tells US media
https://www.rt.com/usa/384142-tillerson-syria-regime-change-isis/
US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has said the Syrian crisis can only be solved through a political process, claiming it's not regime change but the defeat of the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorist group that Washington is seeking in Syria.

Confused over Team Trump’s Syria ‘regime change’ flip-flops? You’re not alone (POLL)
https://www.rt.com/usa/384153-syria-confusion-tillerson-haley-trump/
While Donald Trump’s U-turn on the Syrian conflict has been well documented, high ranking officials in his administration seem to be sending mixed signals on Syria policy too, contradicting each other’s statements and confusing social media and own ranks, it seems.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 06:23:12 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 06:27:58 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 06:30:16 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 10, 2017, 06:33:11 am
... complete with 8x10 black & white glossies?

Pentagon Official:
‘No Credible Alternative’ to Syrian Regime
Carrying Out Chemical Attack

KRISTINA WONG - 9 Apr 2017

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OMAR HAJ KADOUR/AFP/Getty Images
They disputed Russian reports that the munition struck a rebel chemical
weapons facility,  showing pictures of a crater in the middle of a street
where they say the chemical weapon landed.


They said the crater showed staining around it that was a telltale sign of a chemical munition.

WASHINGTON – The Pentagon on Friday laid out its case for why it believes the Syrian regime conducted the April 4 chemical weapons attack, which led to President Trump ordering a cruise missile strike against a Syrian military airbase.

The strike was the first time the U.S. has purposely targeted the Syrian government since the 2011 civil war broke out there.

.... They said they believe the Syrian regime conducted the April 4 chemical weapons attack in Khan Sheikhoun, a small city in Idlib province, because they were at risk of losing an important airfield to the Syrian opposition in neighboring Hama province.

“We think that this attack is linked to a battlefield desperation decision to stop the opposition from seizing those key regime elements,” one official said.

Quote
Officials also said they tracked a Syrian regime aircraft, likely an SU-22, flying
from the Shayrat airbase to Khan Sheikhoun on the day and time of the attack, showing
reporters a graphic of the tracked flight.
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http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/09/pentagon-lays-out-case-for-missile-strikes-against-syria/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 06:34:36 am
Trump is OK on Domestic Policy <-- IDIOTS

Donald Trump’s Pick For Top Economic Adviser Is Pro-Immigration, Pro-Outsourcing
Kevin Hassett is slated to become chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors if he is approved by the Senate’s banking committee
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/09/donald-trump-economic-adviser-pro-immigration-pro-outsourcing/

President Donald Trump has picked an economic advisor who believes in growing the nation’s economy by importing workers and consumers, and by expanding free-trade outsourcing, despite Trump’s “buy  American, hire American” campaign promises.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Ghost of Kissinger still stalks the corridors of power
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 06:46:19 am
The Ghost of Kissinger still stalks the corridors of power

China
On this very day . . .  10 April 1971

China Ping Pong Diplomacy
10th April, 1971 : In an effort to build better relations between the U.S. and China a US table tennis team begins a week long visit to the People's Republic of China (PRC) at the invitation of China's communist government.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jacob Law on Apr 10, 2017, 08:15:30 am
posted this March 2nd on PPF and it has only got worse much worse, I had ended this "I love Trump" but I just not feeling the love anymore.

Donald Trump / Time for Trump to Buck Up
« on: March 02, 2017, 04:20:09 PM »
Trump has been in office for over a month and has given his State of the Union and has fired his  best adviser and has let the Democrat guide his agenda. Allow the deep state to spy on him, pedophile circles have escape scrutiny and he has ignored the elephant in the room; markets are continued to be manipulated, chem trails are still be sprayed on the American people, Judges ruling over national security, ISIS still running wild in Syria, fake news is still receiving government funds, anti trust rampages by de-listing websites, like infowars and natural new, youtube, google, twitter continues the hypocrisy, NY Time has giant contracts with the CIA, the FBI withhold critical information on crimes against the state and children, the State Department is a do nothing organization collecting wage for undermining the government, the CDC continues it war against the people, Federal Reserve continue to steal from the people and support corrupt banks, 911 being an inside job has not been address as well of the many many crisis acting false flags being ignore and even being given credibility in his State of the Union speech, and I could go on and on about the many items, Rand Paul had an excellent replacement for Obama care, Hillary still is free, Obama has not been arrest for treason, WTF is Trump doing, it looks like nothing but eye wash, sorry his cabinet looks like insiders and shills, the White House is full of criminals and Trumps seems enamored by trivial rhetoric, I love Trump but I am getting pissed at him and that is only a few things!!!!   
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 09:06:08 am
posted this March 2nd on PPF and it has only got worse much worse, I had ended this "I love Trump" but I just not feeling the love anymore.

Donald Trump / Time for Trump to Buck Up
« on: March 02, 2017, 04:20:09 PM »
Trump has been in office for over a month and has given his State of the Union and has fired his  best adviser and has let the Democrat guide his agenda. Allow the deep state to spy on him, paedophile circles have escape scrutiny and he has ignored the elephant in the room; markets are continued to be manipulated, chem trails are still be sprayed on the American people, Judges ruling over national security, ISIS still running wild in Syria, fake news is still receiving government funds, anti trust rampages by de-listing websites, like infowars and natural new, youtube, google, twitter continues the hypocrisy, NY Time has giant contracts with the CIA, the FBI withhold critical information on crimes against the state and children, the State Department is a do nothing organization collecting wage for undermining the government, the CDC continues it war against the people, Federal Reserve continue to steal from the people and support corrupt banks, 911 being an inside job has not been address as well of the many many crisis acting false flags being ignore and even being given credibility in his State of the Union speech, and I could go on and on about the many items, Rand Paul had an excellent replacement for Obama care, Hillary still is free, Obama has not been arrest for treason, WTF is Trump doing, it looks like nothing but eye wash, sorry his cabinet looks like insiders and shills, the White House is full of criminals and Trumps seems enamoured by trivial rhetoric, I love Trump but I am getting pissed at him and that is only a few things!!!!   

Honesty is appreciated and gets credit in my book.

The election was a choice between : "A catastrophe and a disaster"
Hindsight, Its a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 10, 2017, 10:16:28 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 10, 2017, 10:33:51 am
Skepticism lacking in Syria strike coverage?
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/04/09/has-media-failed-in-covering-syria.cnn/video/playlists/reliable-sources-highlights/

Interview with Jeremy Scahill...
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Lara Setrakian and Jeremy Scahill discuss the impact of horrific images from Syria and journalistic shortcomings in the coverage of Trump's military attack. Source: CNN
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: tahoeblue on Apr 10, 2017, 01:22:15 pm
If only Hitlery was in office , then we'd have seen some real action ...

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even_critics_understate_how_catastrophically_bad_the_hillary_clinton_led_nato_bombing_of_libya_was/
(http://media.salon.com/2015/10/hillary_clinton_libya.jpg)

Even critics understate how catastrophically bad the Hillary Clinton-led NATO bombing of Libya was
The NY Times reports on Clinton's war leadership don't go far enough. Hillary's disaster in Libya should haunt her
Ben Norton
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 05:23:54 pm
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - SouthFront - US troop movements
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 10, 2017, 07:46:47 pm
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Apr 10, 2017, 09:31:52 pm
Best 'unbiased' / 'no BS' analysis on the US / Russia Syria fiasco.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRjdofoO3vY

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - The FAKE or PATSY Missile Strike Theory - Is it TRUE ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 05:09:54 am
The FAKE or PATSY Missile Strike Theory - Is it TRUE ?
Comments on Corbert :


Did the Russians sit back and let Trump zap them ?
Answer - NO
They shot down 60% of the cruise missiles


S-300 are more than capable of shooting down cruise missiles, 59 fired, 23 arrived . . . therefore

(a) The amercians still don't know how to build / operate a cruise missile
(b) Some of them got shot down
(c) a bit of both, Raytheon likes the cheques as do S-300 manufacturers.


Can you take out a runway with Cruise Missiles ?
Answer - NO
You can not take out a mile long runway by putting a hole in it with a Cruise Missile, they just fill in the crater.

Airbases are run very, very differently under 2 contradicting phillosphy, one is Clean High Tech, the other is run on a Front Line Tough Rough principle.

Amercian Airbase is kept clean, the runway is swept for anything that could get sucked into a jet engine, like an old coke can . . . To close down an american airbase, simply spread a bad of old nuts, bolts, and nails. American aircraft are built like Formula One Race Cars . . . Every day the runways are swept for foreign objects by hand.

Russians run airbases in a military fashion, its meant to be rough, tough and crude. Aircraft have protection on intakes, so runways are covered in junk. If you spread the bag of junk on a Russian runway, they would just look at you like your stupid. Runways are covered in weeds, and used for dumping old junk - they always look like they was abandoned 20 yrs ago.

That it is easier to defeat an airforce on the ground than in the air was a lesson learnt by the Luftwaffe in the summer of 1940 . . . . The Americans, British, etc did not learn that lesson.


What about the Americans -- WARNING Russia in ADVANCE ?
Ok, everyone with a political axe to grind offers a crazy theory . . .

The real question, is what could or would have happened if they had not used the Joint Facility to warn the Russians ?

Generally speaking, when some one takes a shot at you, people tend to respond by shooting back at the person or thing attacking them - right ?

In this case that would have involved a bare minimum of sinking 2 or 3 US Warships as the most limited response. . . .
Do I really need to explain why that would not have been a good idea ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Could Putin sink those Destoyers off Syrian coast ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 06:52:27 am
When you have read this, imagine my surprise when I found out the USS Donald Cook was one of the destroyers that carried out Trump's Cruise Missile Strike.
When I said the Russians could have sunk the attacking warships, I did not pluck that idea out of the ether or out of my posterior.



What spooked the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea?
Voltaire Network | 8 November 2014
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html

The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the destroyer USS Donald Cook has been gravely demoralized ever since their vessel was flown over in the Black Sea by a Russian Sukhoi-24 (Su-24) fighter jet which carried neither bombs nor missiles but only an electronic warfare device.

On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest.

On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest [1].

The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer whose key weapons are Tomahawk cruise missiles with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers, and capable of carrying nuclear explosives. This ship carries 56 Tomahawk missiles in standard mode, and 96 missiles in attack mode.

The US destroyer is equipped with the most recent Aegis Combat System. It is an integrated naval weapons systems which can link together the missile defense systems of all vessels embedded within the same network, so as to ensure the detection, tracking and destruction of hundreds of targets at the same time. In addition, the USS Donald Cook is equipped with 4 large radars, whose power is comparable to that of several stations. For protection, it carries more than fifty anti-aircraft missiles of various types.

Meanwhile, the Russian Su-24 that buzzed the USS Donald Cook carried neither bombs nor missiles but only a basket mounted under the fuselage, which, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta [2], contained a Russian electronic warfare device called Khibiny.

As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up - or about to be - with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.

The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft - unarmed - repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away.

After that, the 4th generation destroyer immediately set sail towards a port in Romania.

Since that incident, which the Atlanticist media have carefully covered up despite the widespread reactions sparked among defense industry experts, no US ship has ever approached Russian territorial waters again.

According to some specialized media, 27 sailors from the USS Donald Cook requested to be relieved from active service.

Vladimir Balybine - director of the research center on electronic warfare and the evaluation of so-called "visibility reduction" techniques attached to the Russian Air Force Academy - made the following comment:



    "The more a radio-electronic system is complex, the easier it is to disable it through the use of electronic warfare."



AEGIS - What it is for dummies

The Incident on Filmed from deck of USS Donald Cook
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Isolationist China Reacts
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 07:19:43 am
China appears to scorn Donald Trump with call for US to ‘preserve Syria’s territorial sovereignty’
By Andrew Cheetham on 11 April 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/408877/china-appears-scorn-donald-trump-call-us-preserve-syrias-territorial-sovereignty

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‘China has issued a barely disguised attack on the Trump administration’s decision to launch Friday’s air strikes, appearing to criticise it for undermining Syria’s territorial sovereignty.

The comments, which come just three days after President Xi Jinping was in the US for talks, suggest a hardening stance in Beijing to America’s unexpected intervention in the country’s civil war.

China’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying was quoted by the Russian news agency Tass as saying Beijing opposed the missile strike.’

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Kurt Nimo - Real Syria Story No One Wants You to Know . .
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 07:29:43 am
Kurt Nimmo - Real Syria Story No One Wants You to Know About . . .

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - David Icke trolls Alt Right
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 07:33:28 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - G7 Rejects Sanctions against Russia and Syria
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 07:45:13 am
Hardly the first time Europeans while still following American lead, drag heels in protest

G7 rejects UK call for sanctions against Russia and Syria
Boris Johnson’s fellow foreign ministers say inquiry into chemical weapons attack is needed before new measures adopted
A call by the British foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, for targeted sanctions against senior Russian and Syrian figures has been rejected by fellow G7 foreign ministers.

At a meeting at Lucca in Italy, the group said there must be an investigation into last week’s chemical weapons attack in a rebel-held town before new measures could be adopted.

The Italian foreign minister, Angelino Alfano, said there was no consensus for fresh sanctions on Russia. Alfano said the idea had been raised by Johnson, but added that isolating Russia or pushing it into a corner “would be wrong”.

The G7 blames the Assad regime’s military for a deadly chemical attack last week, and ministers have strongly supported US missile strikes that targeted a Syrian airbase believed to have been used to launch the attack.

Alfano said the US intervention had offered “a window of opportunity to construct a new positive condition for the political process in Syria”.

But he said a political rather than military process was “the only solution,” according to Italian news agency ANSA.

His words masked a divide among G7 countries about how to deal with Syria and Moscow. The G7 had wanted to deliver a united message to Russia through the US secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, who heads to Moscow later on Tuesday.

The Russian foreign ministry released a truculent statement ahead of Tillerson’s arrival noting that Russian-American relations were going through the “most difficult period since the end of the Cold War”. It said the “long list of irritants that have arisen through Washington’s fault is not decreasing.”

It said Russia was expecting Washington to agree to an investigation of the chemical attack in Khan Sheikhun, it said, again claiming that the Syrian government was not to blame.

“Does Washington plan to shift to real cooperation with us to counteract terrorism, including in Syria? The recent US missile strike on the Syrian government forces’ Shayrat airbase, which was an act of aggression against a sovereign government in violation of international law, will most likely strengthen terrorists,” the statement said.

Johnson earlier said the G7 was considering new sanctions on Russian military figures to press Moscow to end military support for the “toxic” Assad government. US officials in Washington have also raised that prospect.



However, a UK government source insisted the idea of targeted sanctions – against senior military individuals – remained on the table, if an investigation reveals Russian involvement in the Syrian attack, providing a solid legal basis for action.

The source added that Johnson had never intended to propose broad economic sanctions, which the Germans and the Italian governments tend to oppose as counterproductive, but to raise the prospect of specific, targeted measures.

“Tillerson goes with a clear message: Russia can work with all of us and fight terrorism, or continue on this path of ostracisation,” the source said.

But others want a more conciliatory approach. Germany’s foreign minister, Sigmar Gabriel, said Russia and Assad ally Iran must be involved in any peace process to end Syria’s six-year civil war.

Gabriel said the US had “sent a clear signal to the Assad regime” by launching cruise missiles at a Syrian airbase, but other nations should reach out to Russia rather than seek a military escalation.

“Not everyone may like it, but without Moscow and without Tehran there will be no solution for Syria,” he said.

Moscow’ statement said it also hoped to hear US plans for Libya, which it said “ended up essentially fractured as a result of the military intervention of Nato countries,” and Yemen, where American weapons were being used in bombardments leading to the “death of peaceful residents”.

Despite the reproach of Donald Trump’s missile strikes in Syria, the foreign ministry saved most of its venom for Barack Obama , whom it accused of trying to limit Russian influence and strive for “worldwide hegemony justified by arguments about American exceptionalism that recall the most evil historical associations”.

“Both the Ukrainian crisis and the Syrian problem, with all their tragic elements and ambiguity, are the direct result of the irresponsible policy of the Barack Obama administration, which was determined to obstruct the objective process of forming a multipolar world,” it said.

The Associated Press and Press Association contributed to this report
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 11, 2017, 07:55:37 am
^^^

... are they serious that 'peace talks' with ISIS
can possibly produce real results?

But, an UNBIASED investigation BEFORE
any new actions ... absolutely goes without
saying. No more trigger-happy blunders
Pres. Trump! Listen to Bannon ...
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 08:02:00 am
^^^

... are they serious that 'peace talks' with ISIS
can possibly produce real results?

But, an UNBIASED investigation BEFORE
any new actions ... absolutely goes without
saying. No more trigger-happy blunders
Pres. Trump! Listen to Bannon ...

The call for investigation is just dragging of heels, they don't really mean it.

Hate to be the one that tells you, but Comrade Bannon is a nasty piece of work. The reason for the friction between Bannon and Kushner is one of race and religion - look it up.

Trump sold out to the Military Industrial Complex when he published his Budget, you all thought I was insane for going on and on about it, perhaps you might like to reassess my 54 billion reasons meme.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - BREAKING NEWS FROM KREMLIN
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 08:05:27 am
(https://img.rt.com/files/static.en/original/breaking.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - BREAKING NEWS FROM KREMLIN
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 08:06:53 am
Idlib incident was False Flag
– Putin


 Russia has information of a possible incident similar to the one in Idlib province, possibly targeting a Damascus suburb, President Vladimir Putin says. The US accused Damascus of using chemical weapons in Idlib province, which Syria denied.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW


RT........
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Idlib ‘chemical attack’ was false flag & more may come –
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 08:10:01 am
Idlib ‘chemical attack’ was false flag & more may come – Putin
(https://img.rt.com/files/2017.04/original/58ecd2b9c3618845398b456f.jpg)

 Russia has information of a possible incident similar to the one in Idlib province, possibly targeting a Damascus suburb, President Vladimir Putin says. The US accused Damascus of using chemical weapons in Idlib province, which Syria denied.

“We have reports from multiple sources that false flags like this one – and I cannot call it otherwise – are being prepared in other parts of Syria, including the southern suburbs of Damascus. They plan to plant some chemical there and accuse the Syrian government of an attack,” he said at a joint press conference with Italian President Sergio Mattarella in Moscow.

“President Mattarella and I discussed it, and I told him that this reminds me strongly of the events in 2003, when the US representatives demonstrated at the UN Security Council session the presumed chemical weapons found in Iraq. The military campaign was subsequently launched in Iraq and it ended with the devastation of the country, the growth of the terrorist threat and the appearance of Islamic State [IS, formerly ISIS] on the world stage,” he added.

A separate report of a potential false flag operation in Syria came from the Russian General Staff, which said militants were transporting toxic agents into several parts of Syria.

It was the first time the US had targeted Syrian troops deliberately. The White House says it will repeat military action in response to any possible new chemical weapon attacks.

“The sight of people being gassed and blown away by barrel bombs ensures that if we see this kind of action again, we hold open the possibility of future action,” spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday.


RT......
https://www.rt.com/news/384333-putin-idlib-attack-provocation/


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - United States is planning a chemical attack on Syria FF
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 08:20:28 am
I got RT Live

Russians say they have evidence that ANOTHER False Flag Chemical Attack is being rolled out  . . .
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 11, 2017, 08:23:02 am
^^^

quote EG:
"Hate to be the one that tells you, but Comrade Bannon is a nasty piece of work.
The reason for the friction between Bannon and Kushner is one of race and religion - look it up."


~~~~~~

Is there some new 'news' about the loose Cannon/Bannon that I
haven't already read? What are they saying about 'race-religion'?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - United States is planning a chemical attack on Syria FF
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 08:23:19 am
Putin’s SHOCK claim: US is planning MISSILE STRIKE on Syria and will BLAME Assad
VLADIMIR PUTIN has sensationally claimed he has information the United States is planning a chemical attack on Syria and will blame Bashar al-Assad.
By Rebecca Perring
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/790569/Vladimir-Putin-Russia-support-Syria-Bashar-al-Assad-G7-summit

The Russian leader said Moscow had recieved intelligence the US was preparing attacks with chemical weapons on southern Damascus suburbs, and America would try to point the finger at the Syrian government.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - United States is planning a chemical attack on Syria FF
Post by: Jackson Holly on Apr 11, 2017, 08:24:23 am
I got RT Live

Russians say they have evidence that ANOTHER False Flag Chemical Attack is being rolled out  . . .

.... any more details?  >:(
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - United States is planning a chemical attack on Syria FF
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 08:46:31 am
Its timed

Tillerson - US Secretary of Hillary  is arriving in Moscow as I type . .
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - United States is planning a chemical attack on Syria FF
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 11, 2017, 09:00:22 am
Putin: Syria Chemical Attack Was ‘False Flag’, More Coming
"They plan to plant chemicals in Damascus and accuse the Syrian government of an attack”.
Steve Watson | Infowars.com - April 11, 2017
https://www.infowars.com/putin-syria-chemical-attack-was-false-flag-more-coming/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 11, 2017, 09:01:10 am
The call for investigation is just dragging of heels, they don't really mean it.

Hate to be the one that tells you, but Comrade Bannon is a nasty piece of work. The reason for the friction between Bannon and Kushner is one of race and religion - look it up.

Trump sold out to the Military Industrial Complex when he published his Budget, you all thought I was insane for going on and on about it, perhaps you might like to reassess my 54 billion reasons meme.

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The fact that the defense of Trump's actions by the "I Want to Believe" Trump supporters
is based on "he's being duped by the neocons" is pathetically inadequate. Alex can go on for months ranting about this, but if you remember that Curtis documentary, Trump had clearly established connections (strong dependencies) on the banking establishment as far back as the late 70s, when he secured a $250,000,000 loan to buy up NYC properties at a song. With massive tax breaks, he proceeded to turn neighborhoods of 'common man' people into luxury apartments and condos.

So we know he has had a great (fabulous even) relationship with the bankers for the past 40 years.
I believe they've groomed him, and cultivated him by appealing to his narcissism, to sit in the oval office today.
He's packed the cabinet with bankers and generals...

When he made the strike on Syria, he was in the company of those incredible military strategists, Steve Mnuchin and Wilbur Ross.
Bankers.

This is about regime change in Syria, to build the pipeline...
the longer term plan is "The Path to Persia."
Trump is a willing neocon puppet.
Just point him to what you want him to do, and he'll do it.

Why? Because he's had 40 years of working with the bankers, he made a lot of money and he's not going to stop now - this is about his legacy, his narcissistic need to go down in history as the president who ushered in the clash of civilizations.

WAITING for Spin Doctors to talk about this:

(http://www.oil-price.net/cartoons/iran-iraq-syria-pipeline.jpg)


Sigh... remember this?

(http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Trump-reopening-911-investigation-650x350.jpg)
Trump: I’m Reopening 9/11 Investigation (http://investmentwatchblog.com/trump-im-reopening-911-investigation/)

I WANTED TO BELIEVE.
I don't now.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 11, 2017, 09:14:06 am
From the Mouths of US Policymakers Themselves
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/03/obama-netanyahu-fallout-is-theater.html

The Brookings Institution’s 2009 policy paper titled, “Which Path to Persia? Options for a New American Strategy Toward Iran,” (http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/papers/2009/6/iran-strategy/06_iran_strategy.pdf)makes clear that negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program is merely theater, and that it will be used to give the world the impression that the United States explored all possible “peaceful” options before resorting to violent regime change. 
The report states specifically that:

Quote
…any military operation against Iran will likely be very unpopular around the world and require the proper international context— both to ensure the logistical support the operation would require and to minimize the blowback from it. The best way to minimize international opprobrium and maximize support (however, grudging or covert) is to strike only when there is a widespread conviction that the Iranians were given but then rejected a superb offer—one so good that only a regime determined to acquire nuclear weapons and acquire them for the wrong reasons would turn it down. Under those circumstances, the United States (or Israel) could portray its operations as taken in sorrow, not anger, and at least some in the international community would conclude that the Iranians “brought it on themselves” by refusing a very good deal.

A very good deal.
Ok... remember Trump talking about that deal with Iran?
What a bad deal that was?

He'll make a 'good deal'... they'll refuse it.

Here's who is running this entire theater production:

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FB4hhqlBBpo/WKLL0Yia3BI/AAAAAAAAPXQ/vYBlWLHMLnI2eOgdd0AcSH6qhhbr4HLxwCLcB/s640/NEDcorporateInterests_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 11, 2017, 10:34:15 am
Is Trump Enlisting in the War Party?
http://buchanan.org/blog/trump-enlisting-war-party-126799

Monday - April 10, 2017 at 9:46 pm
By Patrick J. Buchanan

By firing off five dozen Tomahawk missiles at a military airfield, our “America First” president may have plunged us into another Middle East war that his countrymen do not want to fight.

Thus far Bashar Assad seems unintimidated. Brushing off the strikes, he has defiantly gone back to bombing the rebels from the same Shayrat air base that the U.S. missiles hit.

Trump “will not stop here,” warned U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley on Sunday. “If he needs to do more, he will.”

If Trump fails to back up Haley’s threat, the hawks now cheering him on will begin deriding him as “Donald Obama.”

But if he throbs to the war drums of John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio and orders Syria’s air force destroyed, we could be at war not only with ISIS and al-Qaida, but with Syria, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.

A Syrian war would consume Trump’s presidency.

Are we ready for that? How would we win such a war without raising a large army and sending it back into the Middle East?

Another problem: Trump’s missile attack was unconstitutional.
Assad had not attacked or threatened us, and Congress,
which alone has the power to authorize war on Syria, has never done so.


Indeed, Congress denied President Obama that specific authority in 2013.

What was Trump thinking? Here was his strategic rational:

“When you kill innocent children, innocent babies — babies, little babies — with a chemical gas … that crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line. … And I will tell you, that attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me … my attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much.”

Two days later, Trump was still emoting: “Beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack. No child of God should ever suffer such horror.”

Now, that gas attack was an atrocity, a war crime, and pictures of its tiny victims are heart-rending. But 400,000 people have died in Syria’s civil war, among them thousands of children and infants.

Have they been killed by Assad’s forces? Surely, but also by U.S., Russian, Israeli and Turkish planes and drones — and by Kurds, Iranians, Hezbollah, al-Qaida, ISIS, U.S.-backed rebels and Shiite militia.

Assad is battling insurgents and jihadists who would slaughter his Alawite brethren and the Christians in Syria just as those Copts were massacred in Egypt on Palm Sunday. Why is Assad more responsible for all the deaths in Syria than those fighting to overthrow and kill him?

Are we certain Assad personally ordered a gas attack on civilians?

For it makes no sense. Why would Assad, who is winning the war and had been told America was no longer demanding his removal, order a nerve gas attack on children, certain to ignite America’s rage, for no military gain?

Like the gas attack in 2013, this has the marks of a false flag operation
to stampede America into Syria’s civil war.


And as in most wars, the first shots fired receive the loudest cheers. But if the president has thrown in with the neocons and War Party, and we are plunging back into the Mideast maelstrom, Trump should know that many of those who helped to nominate and elect him — to keep us out of unnecessary wars — may not be standing by him.

We have no vital national interest in Syria’s civil war. It is those doing the fighting who have causes they deem worth dying for.

For ISIS, it is the dream of a caliphate. For al-Qaida, it is about driving the Crusaders out of the Dar al Islam. For the Turks, it is, as always, about the Kurds.

For Assad, this war is about his survival and that of his regime. For Putin, it is about Russia remaining a great power and not losing its last naval base in the Med. For Iran, this is about preserving a land bridge to its Shiite ally Hezbollah. For Hezbollah it is about not being cut off from the Shiite world and isolated in Lebanon.

Because all have vital interests in Syria, all have invested more blood in this conflict than have we. And they are not going to give up their gains or goals in Syria and yield to the Americans without a fight.

And if we go to war in Syria, what would we be fighting for?

A New World Order? Democracy? Separation of mosque and state? Diversity? Free speech for Muslim heretics? LGBT rights?

In 2013, a great national coalition came together to compel Congress to deny Barack Obama authority to take us to war in Syria.

We are back at that barricade. An after-Easter battle is shaping up in Congress on the same issue: Is the president authorized to take us into war against Assad and his allies inside Syria?

If, after Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Yemen, we do not want America in yet another Mideast war, the time to stop it is before the War Party has us already in it. That time is now.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 12, 2017, 06:19:04 am
Putin: Trust between US & Russia degrading under Trump
https://www.rt.com/news/384449-trust-us-russia-degrading/

 Trust between Russia and the US has degraded under the Trump administration, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated. During his presidential election campaign, Trump said he would like the US to have better relations with Russia.

In an interview on Wednesday, Putin said that if Donald Trump had intended to bring about a thaw in US relations with Russia, he has failed to see this intention through.

“I would say the level of trust [between Russia and the US] is at a workable level, especially in the military dimension, but it hasn’t improved. On the contrary, it has degraded,” the Russian president told Mir broadcaster.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 12, 2017, 06:23:53 am
US Tomahawk strike on Syria as effective as dropping missiles from air balloons – Russia’s MoD

(https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.04/original/58ed9561c461881e2e8b4591.jpg)

“The figures voiced by the Pentagon about the supposedly high efficiency of a massive missile strike at the Shayrat airbase were made for the American public, and not for professionals,” Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said in a statement.

AND

“Therefore, if 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles were not launched from hundreds of miles away, but instead dropped on Shayrat in one pile from air balloons, the effectiveness of such a 'strike' would be equal in cost (over $100mn) and strike accuracy,” the general said.


Remember, 59 launched, 36 "missed" or "shotdown"

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - the upside of all of this . . .
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 12, 2017, 06:26:57 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Putin finally meets Tillerson in Moscow
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 12, 2017, 11:24:22 am
Putin finally meets Tillerson in Moscow
https://www.rt.com/news/384493-putin-meets-tillerson-moscow/

Despite speculations to the contrary, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has met Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow. Some observers claimed this wouldn’t happen due to the tension between the two nations.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - CrossTalk
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 12, 2017, 11:28:29 am
Cross Talk - RT Debate show
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/384424-trump-administration-change-america/

Trump supporters voted to bring change to America – and that included foreign policy. Weeks into his administration, Trump has signaled that isn’t going to happen – at least for now. Why the reversal and what will the political costs be?

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Coffee
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 12, 2017, 01:33:09 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson DOES meet with Vladimir Putin in Moscow after frosty exchange with Russian Foreign Minister who accused Trump of 'unlawful attack' on Syria
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4405926/Tillerson-DOES-meet-Vladimir-Putin.html


Guess Wot Russians Think ?
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 12, 2017, 01:47:01 pm
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Dr Shajul Islam - MI6
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 13, 2017, 05:34:39 am
False Flag Evidence

In the rush to hysteria, it was easy to over look who reported the chemical attack and posted the pics of the victims

That man was Dr Shajul Islam

Take a look this is the man involved kidnapping of journalists and terrorism inside Syria with infamous "ISIS Beatles" executioner Jihadi John

UK-trained doctor hailed a hero for treating gas attack victims in Syria stood trial on terror offences ‘and belonged to the group that kidnapped British reporter John Cantlie’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4388780/Doctor-Syria-stood-trial-terror-offences.html

A UK-trained doctor, who was hailed a hero for treating gas attack victims in Syria, stood trial on terror offences and allegedly belonged to the group that kidnapped British journalist John Cantlie.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

The Court Case mysteriously collapsed Witnesses failed to give evidence, and he went back to Syria to re-appear reporting the Chemical Attack . . .



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - CNN Fake Evidence
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 13, 2017, 05:56:50 am
CNN uses anonymous source to push Syria/Russia 'chemical attack' conspiracy
https://www.rt.com/news/384583-cnn-russia-syria-chemical/

 An anonymous senior US official told CNN that, while the US allegedly has proof that Damascus is responsible for the chemical incident in Idlib, Syria, it has uncovered no such evidence implicating Moscow, because Russia is wilier in scrambling its communications.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Syria Chemical Weapons Attack Launched From Saudi Base ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 13, 2017, 06:00:46 am
Bit thin on hard evidence, but written by a highly respected journalist,

U.S. Intelligence Source: Syria Chemical Weapons Attack Launched From Saudi Base
Award winning journalist Robert Parry says incident was likely a false flag
Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars.com - April 12, 2017 1631 Comments
https://www.infowars.com/u-s-intelligence-source-syria-chemical-weapons-attack-launched-from-saudi-base/

Award-winning Iran-Contra journalist Robert Parry says the chemical weapons attack in Syria was launched from a joint Saudi-Israeli special operations base in Jordan, according to his intelligence sources.

U.S. intelligence analysts determined that a drone was responsible for the attack and “eventually came to believe that the flight was launched in Jordan from a Saudi-Israeli special operations base for supporting Syrian rebels,” according to the source.

“The suspected reason for the poison gas was to create an incident that would reverse the Trump administration’s announcement in late March that it was no longer seeking the removal of President Bashar al-Assad,” writes Parry.

As we highlighted back in 2013 after another chemical weapons attack in Ghouta that was blamed on Assad, rebels freely admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they had been given the weapons by Saudi Arabia but had “handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions.”

Parry’s background lends the information credibility. He covered the Iran-Contra scandal for the Associated Press and Newsweek and was later given a George Polk award for his work on intelligence matters.

The contention that the incident was a “false flag” to create a justification for air strikes has also been voiced by former Congressman Ron Paul as well as numerous other prominent voices, including Vladimir Putin himself, who went on to warn that rebels could now stage a similar incident in Damascus to goad the U.S. into toppling Assad.

Whoever was responsible for the attack does not take away from the horror of the event and the fact that innocent people and children died.

Parry dismissed the four page report released by President Trump’s National Security Council that blames the Syrian government for the chemical attack as being heavy on assertions but lacking actual evidence.

The white paper states, “we cannot publicly release all available intelligence on this attack due to the need to protect sources and methods,” although as Parry points out, “In similarly tense situations in the past, U.S. Presidents have released sensitive intelligence to buttress U.S. government assertions, including John F. Kennedy’s disclosure of U-2 spy flights in the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and Ronald Reagan revealing electronic intercepts after the Soviet shoot-down of Korean Airlines Flight 007 in 1983.”

Parry challenged the Trump administration to make its evidence publicly available, while also questioning why both CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats were not show in a photo released by the White House which shows the President and a dozen of his senior advisers monitoring the April 6 missile strike from a room at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

“Given President Trump’s spotty record for getting facts straight – he and his administration should go the extra mile in presenting irrefutable evidence to support its assessments, not simply insisting that the world must “trust us,” concludes Parry.



Paul Joseph Watson is the editor at large of Infowars.com and Prison Planet.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Trump flaunts his stupidity on Fox
Post by: Q on Apr 13, 2017, 08:22:52 am
In his interview with Fox Business, Trump shows that he is monumentally stupid and ignorant on foreign affairs. However, to be fair to the guy, he is vaguely coherent on domestic matters.

This is the sequence on Syria and Russia's involvement:

https://youtu.be/1dZNPKrEcrE?t=21m

21 Minutes into Video

He said that "If Russia had not backed that animal [Assad] then there would not be a problem in that country now..he [Assad] was about to fall within a week"

And then what Trump? Singing tomorrows with CIA assets Isis and Al Nusra et al, like the shining example of Libya. The Trump admin have got with the neocon program.

In an example of incredible hypocrisy, he then decries the use of barrel bombs "or any bombs" used where there are civilians present. Tell it to the people of Mosul.

Trump could be the most ignorant and embarrassing president we have ever had on foreign affairs, and that was already a very low bar.

And look at his childlike naivete when breathlessly talking about the Trump Armada:

https://youtu.be/1dZNPKrEcrE?t=9m29s

9 Minutes 30 Seconds

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Assad says US 'not serious' about fighting terrorism
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 13, 2017, 11:07:23 am
Assad says US 'not serious' about fighting terrorism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjokRb1hLxY

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US-led coalition airstrike mistakenly killed . . .
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 13, 2017, 01:59:39 pm
US-led coalition air-strike mistakenly killed 18 SDF ally fighters in Syria on April 11 – Pentagon
https://www.rt.com/news/384609-us-airstrike-killed-rebels/

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Peter Hitchins
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 13, 2017, 08:45:12 pm
Peter Hitchins on Syria . . .

short Radio Interview

Scroll down for Syria
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/


My concern about the strange Western and Gulf intervention there also dates quite a long way back, perhaps because I have long been concerned about this interesting part of the Middle East. I wrote the following item in my Mail on Sunday column on 10th June 2012. I should add that the people who contacted me have long ago fled from the violence which made their lives miserable and dangerous.  I had several later communications describing the horrible destruction of what had until then been an orderly and reasonably prosperous way of life, though of course wholly lacking the freedoms of speech and politics we take for granted here and supervised (like all middle-eastern countries) by a ruthless and feared secret police.

I checked with friends of theirs still in England, to establish that they were who they said they were, non-political western women, unconnected to the government, married to secular Sunni Syrians and living in the Latakia area. They got in touch with me after I had written critically about what seemed to me to be unwarranted enthusiasm, at the BBC, for a civil war in Syria:

 

'I HAVE been contacted by a group of Western women who live in Syria and who believe that most of what the world is being told about that country is false.

As far as I can discover, they are not stooges of what they agree to be a rather nasty government in Damascus, but exactly what they say they are: normal human beings caught up in a political tornado.

For obvious reasons, I have promised to protect their identities. I urge you to read what follows, because it is important, because our emotional interventions in other countries never do any good, and because it is vital that people resist attempts to drag us into Syria, too, by feeding us one-sided atrocity propaganda.

This sort of propaganda has a price.

I hope you have noticed the continuing tally of deaths of selfless British soldiers in Afghanistan, in a cause long ago abandoned.

And I hope you have also noticed that Libya, 'rescued' by us a few months ago, is now a failed state whose main international airport was recently taken over by gangsters, and where unjustly arrested prisoners are starved and tortured in secret dungeons.

One of my informants from Syria writes of the 'activists' we hear so much about: 'These protesters are not peaceful, flower-carrying people wanting freedom.

No, they are weapon-toting killers who snipe, who ambush, who fire upon the army with the sole purpose of inciting riot and mayhem.'

She blames Salafis, ultra-puritan Muslims influenced by Saudi teachings, who loathe and threaten Syria's minorities of Alawites and Christians.

She says many of the 'activists' are foreigners, a view shared by all my informants. Many of the 'activists' are armed.

Armed intervention is in fact well under way, uncondemned by the UN, which readily attacks the Syrian government for defending itself.

Another writes: 'I have seen reports of opposition rallies which showed pictures of pro-government rallies, and reports purporting to be from the north Syrian countryside, where it has been an incredibly wet year, which appear to have been taken in some desert.

The news being accepted as truth by BBC World News is so biased these days that I no longer believe what they say about anything any more, after more than 60 years of crediting them with the truth.'

She says she has spoken to a man who took part in a march at Hama last summer. He 'was worried for his safety, but was given a red rose to carry and assured the whole thing would be calm and orderly, and seeing many other men from the mosque joining in with their small sons, he agreed.

They walked for a very few minutes, the unarmed police watching them from the wayside, then a man next to him pulled out a gun and shot the nearest policeman dead.'

A riot followed, reported by foreign TV stations as a police attack on peaceful marchers.

I expect to have more to say on this in weeks to come. '

 

So it proved. I heard from these informants, for the first time, of the presence of foreign fighters in Syria, men whose Arabic was not local, and who wore the moustacheless beards of the Islamist devotee, uncommon in her part of the world until then.


PETER HITCHENS: Our 'noble' cause? Dropping bombs on behalf of Al Qaeda

AD240901094At the direction
This is Peter Hitchens's Mail on Sunday column

Now we have definitely moved from being a post-war world to being a pre-war world. Madness and folly are loose again.

Consider first that early on Friday morning the United States Navy launched 59 cruise missiles on behalf of Al Qaeda.

If this is not bad enough for you, note that the President of the United States did not even bother to pretend that he was seeking United Nations cover for what he did.

Note next that in the same week our Prime Minister, Theresa May, made a duty visit to pay homage to the medieval despots of Saudi Arabia, who kindly buy our warplanes and bombs, and are currently using them to savage effect in Yemen.

And President Trump was playing host at the White House to the head of Egypt’s military junta, General el-Sisi, whose security forces undoubtedly massacred at least 600 protesters (probably many more) in the streets of Cairo in August 2013.

And then mark that the pretext for this bizarre rocket attack was an unproven claim that President Assad of Syria had used poison gas.

Yes, unproven. The brutality of Sisi and the Saudis is beyond doubt. They didn’t use gas, but our leaders’ outrage at Assad’s alleged gas attack looks a little contrived if they keep such company.

Also what happened to the rules of evidence? Many people have written, spoken – and now acted – as if the charge was proven. Why the hurry?

Now, Mr Assad is not a nice person. I have been writing rude things about his bloodstained and wicked regime for years.

But he is not insane. He knows that the use of poison gas is the one thing that will make the USA intervene against him.

They have said so. He is currently winning his war against Islamist fanatics, with conventional weapons. He had even finally got the USA to stop demanding his dismissal.

Five days before the alleged attack – five days! – America’s UN ambassador, Nikki Haley, announced: ‘Our priority is no longer to sit there and focus on getting Assad out.’

So why would he do such a thing, and throw away all his victories in a few minutes? It makes no sense of any kind. As you ponder this, can I explain something about the place where the gas attack is said to have happened?

No independent Western journalist could go there. He or she would be killed or kidnapped within hours.

Any report which comes from that region is filtered through people who you never see in the film that does get out. I have met men like them on my travels. I would not want to offend them.

These are the Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, alias the Al-Nusra Front, alias Al Qaeda, the Syrian ‘opposition’ which we in the West have been supporting for several years.

Yes, that’s right, the people we have been helping are not Liberal Democrats or Girl Guides or Quakers.

No, they are the same movement which destroyed Manhattan’s Twin Towers.

The only big difference between them and Islamic State is that we drop bombs on Islamic State. And we drop bombs on behalf of Al-Nusra/Al Qaeda.

I’ve noted here before how these people have publicly kidnapped, killed and even sunk their teeth into the entrails of dead enemies. But in this case, another small detail may make you wonder about what you are being told.

In some reports of the alleged atrocity, a supposed ‘British doctor’, Shajul Islam, was quoted or shown on the spot, described as a ‘volunteer treating victims in hospital’.

Actually, he shouldn’t really be called a British doctor.

He was struck off the British medical register for ‘misconduct’ in March 2016.

The General Medical Council won’t say why. And in 2012 Shajul Islam was charged with terror offences in a British court.

He was accused of imprisoning John Cantlie, a British photographer, and a Dutchman, Jeroen Oerlemans.

Both men were held by a militant group in Syria and both were wounded when they tried to escape. Shajul Islam, it was alleged, was among their captors.

Shajul Islam’s trial collapsed in 2013, when it was revealed that Mr Cantlie had been abducted once again, and could not give evidence.

Mr Oerlemans refused to give evidence for fear that it would further endanger Mr Cantlie. Mr Oerlemans has since been killed in Libya. So the supposedly benevolent medical man at the scene of the alleged atrocity turns out to be a struck-off doctor who was once put on trial for kidnapping.

Does this change your view at all? It takes a couple of minutes to find this out if you look. But only one major Western news outlet, The Times, has put two and two together. Why is that?

It’s for the same reason that we are in this mess. We wish to fool ourselves and are good at it.

 

The once-wealthy and powerful West is falling to bits.

It is bankrupt and increasingly at the mercy of people who have begun to demand something in return for their trade and their loans.

It is all very sordid, and bodes ill for the future, but I would mind it less if we admitted what we were doing, rather than pretending these wretched events were some sort of noble act.

 

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08 April 2017 11:35 AM
What happened at Ghouta? Do we know?

I have seen it repeatedly stated by political and media figures that the Assad state was guilty of the chemical attack in Ghouta, Damascus.

 

Seeking confirmation for this, I searched for the United Nations Security Council report on the atrocity, which can be found in PDF form here

https://disarmament-library.un.org/UNODA/Library.nsf/780cfafd472b047785257b1000501037/5f61477d793185d285257be8006b135a/%24FILE/A%2067%20997-S%202013%20553.pdf

or here

 

http://bit.ly/2o9hBqT

 

 

The conclusion (on page 8 of 41) states:

‘Conclusions

 

    On the basis of the evidence obtained during our investigation of the Ghouta incident, the conclusion is that, on 21 August 2013, chemical weapons have been used in the ongoing conflict between the parties in the Syrian Arab Republic, also against civilians, including children, on a relatively large scale. 28. In particular, the environmental, chemical and medical samples we have collected provide clear and convincing evidence that surface-to-surface rockets containing the nerve agent Sarin were used in Ein Tarma, Moadamiyah and Zamalka in the Ghouta area of Damascus. 29. The facts supporting this conclusion are: • Impacted and exploded surface-to-surface rockets, capable to carry a chemical payload, were found to contain Sarin. • Close to the rocket impact sites, in the area where patients were affected, the environment was found to be contaminated by Sarin. • Over fifty interviews given by survivors and health care workers provided ample corroboration of the medical and scientific results. • A number of patients/survivors were clearly diagnosed as intoxicated by an organophosphorous compound. • Blood and urine samples from the same patients were found positive for Sarin and Sarin signatures. 30. This result leaves us with the deepest concern.’

I see here no attribution of the undoubted crime to any culprit.  This of course does not exclude the possibility that the Syrian state was responsible. I make no comment on that. But for certainty to be expressed, one would surely have to rely on an authoritative finding of guilt based on evidence. Have I missed some passage in this report which blames the Assad government?  Is there another evidence-based report which attributes the atrocity to the Syrian state? If not, on what basis is this assertion being made?

 

 

 

 

 

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05 April 2017 5:24 PM
It's WMD all over again. Why don't you see it?

Actually knowing something, remembering history or having experience of the world is becoming a disadvantage. How much easier it would be to join in with the flow of opinion about Syria, to listen happily to, and read contentedly, media reports on the subject.

As it is, I feel something close to a physical pain as I do this.

Today’s frenzy over alleged use of poison gas in Syria is the 2017 version of Anthony Blair’s WMD in Iraq. Why can you not see it? Did you think they would do it in exactly the same way again? You are being assailed through your emotions, to act first and think long after, and far too late.

How *can* trained journalists (and experienced diplomats) be so lacking in the desire or ability to question what they are told? How come that they accept without hesitation reports which have not come from their own staff, but instead come from within terrifying war zones where gangs of fanatical murderers are the only law? One or two at least have the decency to refer to the new reports of gas attacks as ‘suspected’ or alleged, but most present them as established fact. ‘All the hallmarks’ means in such cases what? Though millions believe this has been proven, past accusations of gas use by Damascus have never been independently shown to be true.

Well, how can facts *be* independently established about such events? Not easily. Alas, that makes it appalling simple to make propaganda without ever facing serious checks .

The pressures on anyone communicating with western media from such places can only be imagined.

And then there is this simple point. Why would the Syrian government use gas at this stage in a war it has recently begun to win with conventional munitions? You don’t have to believe that the Assad state is saintly to ask this question, and I don’t believe that. Please see http://dailym.ai/2h1XZAv Carla del Ponte, for the UN, has in the past accused the *rebels* of gas use http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10039672/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-of-chemical-weapons-use.html

Wicked and brutal they may well be, but they would have to be stupid and possibly mad to do such a thing, just as an important conference convenes in Brussels https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/news_corner/news/brussels-conference-supporting-future-syria-and-region-4-5-april-2017_en to discuss the future of Syria.

The military advantages would be tiny . Chemical weapons have not been widely used since the 1914-18 war not because soldiers have been especially tender, but because, though very nasty, they are not an especially effective weapon of war. In the 1939-45 war, many barbarous things were done , especially by largely lawless nations such as Germany and Japan, and indeed by the USSR. But gas was not used on the battlefield.

The political and diplomatic disadvantages would be huge. If Syria could be shown ( as it has not yet been) to have used gas to kill children, it would mean total diplomatic isolation, and renewed calls in Britain and the USA (which only a few days ago abandoned its aim of overthrowing Assad http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/us-assad-syria-ambassador-un-nikki-haley-a7659266.html ) to intervene against Assad. 

Well, here are some thoughts as to why this has happened now. This has come just as Russian policy in the area had begun to look successful. That would never do.  Never underestimate the current desire in western foreign policy circles to increase hostility between Russia and the USA.  It comes as Britain’s absurdly close and servile client relationship to the despotic and aggressive (ask a Yemeni) Saudi Regime is underlined by a visit to Riyadh by Theresa May. And it comes as Egypt’s tyrant General Sisi, who we are not allowed to call a military dictator, though he is, and whose forces gunned down hundreds of demonstrators in Cairo, visits Washington.

Two points occur. One, the western powers , by consorting with such people, demonstrate that their exaggerated disgust at the Assad government is selective and unreal. Two, they demonstrate that our continuing desire to be on good terms with Saudi Arabia lies beneath our whole foreign policy in this region. And which state loathes President Assad more than anyone? Why, Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, which despises Assad for his Alawite heresy, and hates him for his alliance with Shia Iran.

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03 April 2017 11:57 AM
Some past musings on the Gibraltar Problem, and Spain's matching Ceuta problem

I thought some readers might enjoy these two rather ancient articles (there are some terrible cliches in the first one, which I hope I should now avoid). One is a 2001 despatch from Gibraltar, then under threat from the Blair government. The other is a 2002 report from Spain's Gibraltar, the Ceuta enclave(from which you can see Gibraltar, ghostly in the haze, across the straits). My only previous visit to the Rock, for another newspaper, was for the extraordinary inquest which followed the shooting of an IRA gang by SAS troops. My father visited it often in his Royal Navy days, and I possess a rather evocative photograph he took during exercises not far out to sea, with the Rock on the horizon. His old friend, the novelist and former naval officer (and perhaps spook as well), Warren Tute, wrote a once-popular thriller about it. It is a fascinating place. The first sight of it will always make the newcomer gasp. Yes, it really does look like that. The Foreign Office will always want to get rid of it. Its people will probably always resist. You'd think people would just accept that, but they never do.

 

The current government's noisy drum-banging on the subject somehow doesn't wholly convince me. But that's only an impression. I can't put my finger on why. Anyway,. let's go days, weeks, months and years back in time, to the winter of 2001 and the Blair years...

 

25th November 2001:

FROM Peter Hitchens IN GIBRALTAR

The people of Gibraltar are as British as roast beef. They drink bitter, play cricket and proudly fly our flag. So why is the Government so very keen to hand over their home to their bullying neighbours in Spain? Like it or not, Gibraltar is just going to have to be liberated from its colonial British past. The Foreign Office Minister Peter Hain, an expert on liberating people, has decided that this shall be so.

The Prime Minister, who last week went to Nuremberg to proclaim his love affair with European integration, is right behind Mr Hain in the campaign to 'integrate' this British territory with Spain, its bullying neighbour.

But the question of whether they like it or not is the trouble. Gibraltar's people, a confusing mixture of Italians, Maltese, Jews and Portuguese, rather enjoy being British and think their colonial status is just fine. If this is living in the past, they say, then to hell with the present and the future. We like it here.

This is inconvenient of them. To the Foreign Office, which longs to reduce Britain to the status of a sea-girt Austria, the Rock and its unfashionable inhabitants have been an accursed nuisance for years. If the rest of the British Empire had been allowed to behave like this, then we would never have been able to hand it over to people such as Deng Xiaoping, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe and Kwame Nkrumah, and then what might have happened?

This isolated lump of land defies liberal prejudices. Officially oppressed, it has a noisy democracy. Mostly Roman Catholic but fiercely loyal to the Protestant crown of England, racially mixed but culturally united, the Rock is both exotic and suburban. This week, Gibraltar's main street is decked out for Christmas, with plastic Santas and snowmen displayed among the palm trees, and Christmas puddings flying off the shelves of Safeway.

Everyone speaks both English and a mysterious Spanish-English patois. They drink English bitter in pubs and play cricket on coconut matting; their national dish is steak and chips; they bet on British horse races and watch British TV. They follow the English national curriculum in comprehensive schools; their judges wear horsehair wigs and they have juries. Yes, they are a colony, with a governor in a plumed hat, but Scottish separatists would be overjoyed to have the Rock's independent powers - especially over taxation.

The Britishness here is captivatingly out of date, redolent of the days of Two-way Family Favourites on the wireless and Morris Minors. It has been formed by many shared perils and sieges - the most recent being Spain's long and spiteful closure of the border from 1969 to 1984, which left its mark on everyone living here and is the cause of understandable mistrust of Madrid. Left wing Islington snobs, who adore every culture but their own, would loathe it.

It is an undoubted fact that this promontory of two-and-a-quarter square miles, much of it uninhabitable mountain, and its 30,000 people, form a unique society with as much right to choose its own future as any other. It is also a society worth preserving: a happy, contented, prosperous, law-abiding and free place.

So why not just let well alone? It is easy to see why Spain once raged against a great foreign military base on Spanish soil and a giant foreign fleet in its territorial waters. It is easy to understand that after Spain's final loss of her own empire in 1898, the recovery of the Rock must have seemed essential to her pride. The unloved dictator Franco found that posturing on this issue actually made him popular. His democratic successors in a transformed nation really ought to have other things on their minds.

But Madrid still scratches at this sore place in her history.

Gibraltar's airport is throttled by Spanish restrictions. The Rock's phone system is overloaded because of Spanish boycotts and obstructions. Spain even blocks Gibraltar's entries to dog shows and tries to keep it out of international sporting bodies. Spanish frontier officials keep up an endless go-slow, making a simple journey unpleasant and irritating.

In a neat paradox, ultra-British Gibraltar pointedly flies the European standard alongside the Union Flag at the frontier, and displays large permanent notices urging travellers to complain officially about Spain's infringement of their EU right to travel freely. Arrivals on the British side are greeted by a sign saying: 'Welcome to Gibraltar, territory of the European Union'. Spain, normally a keen EU member, keeps quiet about it here, where she clings to a petty nationalism that belongs in the 19th Century. Mr Hain has accused Gibraltar of being 'stuck in the past'. This border, with its banana republic pettiness, rubs in the truth that it is Spain which is stuck in the past, obsessed with ancient parchment treaties and battles long ago.

If Spain relaxed the frontier, unblocked the phone lines and freed the airport, Gibraltar might in time choose any number of futures. An independent Gibraltar left unmolested inside the EU would inevitably grow closer to Spain as past fears and mistrust faded. Perhaps one day it might even want to be Spanish, or would simply cease to care. Spain's attitude and behaviour are not merely babyish but futile as well.

That is why the predictable outcome of the new round of talks is that the people of Gibraltar will flatly reject any deal on sovereignty between London and Madrid - even though they fear Britain will then leave them twisting in the wind, as Spanish harassment is stepped up and London looks the other way.

They suspect British public opinion is already being prepared for a sell-out. When I met him in his elegant office - a converted former chapel with his desk where the altar used to be - Gibraltar's Chief Minister, Peter Caruana, was angry about what he sees as smears against Gibraltar and its people which have begun appearing in parts of the British media, especially unsubstantiated claims of smuggling and money-laundering.

They are just not true, he insists, and are 'a politically motivated attempt to besmirch us'.

He is hurt and worried by the recent tone of the British Foreign Office. He has always assumed Gibraltar's constitution - promising no change of sovereignty without a democratic vote - was a genuine choice. Now he wonders.

'If you could choose to remain British at your peril, it would be morally indefensible,' he told me.

But he is baffled at a process which is aimed at reaching a conclusion by next summer; which seems certain to involve some loss of British sovereignty over Gibraltar and which is bound to be rejected by the Rock's people.

'There has to be some other purpose to the process,' he explained.

He fears that what is intended is to do a deal in the knowledge that it will be voted down - and then to put it to a referendum. He calls this 'making us choose between something that is unacceptable to us, or unspecified consequences'.

Mr Caruana - a youthful 45-year-old father of six - says that, if this is the plan, it will not work. 'The people of Gibraltar will not barter their British sovereignty. There is no amount of intimidation, harassment - or inducement -which will lead them down that road. We will organise soup kitchens before we accept that.' In this very British place, where older values of doggedness and determination survive perhaps more strongly than they do in the land from which they sprang, these are serious words.

It would be a grim day for Britain's standing in the world if they ever needed to be put into practice.

But why is it Britain which is in retreat and failing to defend a just cause? Why is it Britain which has begun talks with Spain in which it has conceded the main issue in advance? Why are we so keen to protect the rights of Kosovars and Bosnians, even to build a democracy in Kabul where we are not wanted, but anxious to dump Gibraltar, where we are wanted and liked?

The answer may lie in Mr Blair's visit to Nuremberg last week. There, too, a British politician was seeking to placate a powerful neighbour increasingly irritated by our independent ways. Almost incredibly, he chose that beautiful but sinister city, forever linked with Europe's shameful return to the Dark Ages, to make his most fervent declaration of love for European unity. It would be 'backward and self-defeating' for Britain to isolate itself, he alleged, as he proclaimed that our destiny lay as a full partner in a more closely integrated continent.

If he does not even want Britain to be British, what possible hope is there for poor little Gibraltar?

AND….

29th September 2002

Blair is ready to hand over Gibraltar - but Spain will never quit its own secret colony             

By: PETER HITCHENS

As Madrid steps up its demands over the Rock, Peter Hitchens discovers that when the Spanish are asked to give up one of their outposts, they reply with fierce refusals and stern lectures...

Spain does not want you to know that she has her very own Gibraltar, a mirror-image of Britain's Rock which she has absolutely no intention of handing over to any foreign power this side of doomsday. Even while Spain demands the right to rule over 30,000 Gibraltarians who defiantly want to be British, Spanish troops, ships and helicopters stand guard over another rock, just 30 miles away, whose people equally defiantly want to be Spanish, but which Morocco claims for her own.

The Spanish Gibraltar is called Ceuta (say it see-you-tah, to rhyme with 'scooter') and the similarity between the two places is eerie. Both are military and naval bases dominated by fortified mountains in which tunnels and caverns conceal secret installations. Both have disputed borders. Both are small and cramped and long ago lost the purpose for which they were originally conquered. Both have populations which are racially mixed, but united in loyalty to the mother country.

Gibraltar has achieved harmony with a mixture of Jews, Catholics and Muslims. Ceuta's equally successful cultural melting pot has the same ingredients but also includes Hindus.

Spain wants Gibraltar. Morocco wants Ceuta.

The Spanish could easily puncture Morocco's demands by holding a referendum which would certainly show that almost nobody in Ceuta wants to leave Spain. But they dare not. For that would hugely strengthen Gibraltar's case - a case which will be underlined by a completely predictable pro-British vote due to take place a few weeks from now, where the only question is whether the pro-Spain faction will score above single figures.

It might also draw the world's attention to the fact that their case for holding on to this quirky little toehold is actually weaker than Britain's for keeping the Rock. By clever diplomacy since the days of the dictator Francisco Franco, Madrid has managed to keep up the monstrous pretence that Ceuta is not a colony, and therefore needs no changes, whereas Gibraltar is a colony, and so must be decolonised.

This argument is so far from the truth that the only sensible response is to laugh. Gibraltar, with its own culture, laws and customs, could justifiably declare independence tomorrow and seek admission to the UN as a small but proud European nation.

Ceuta, on the other hand, is much more like the classic idea of a colony. It is a little patch of Spain kept in existence on African soil solely by military power and diplomacy. Its landward side is guarded by a savage 15ft fence topped with barbed wire and dotted with watchtowers.

Its main border post with Morocco is one of the most shocking confrontations between the First and Third worlds that I have ever seen, starker and harsher even than the US-Mexican frontier at El Paso, where hungry shanty towns stare across into the world of fast food.

To get to Ceuta's gate into Africa, you drive along smooth, tree-lined and ordered streets which could just as well be in Barcelona, passing hypermarkets, shiny new office blocks and a surprising number of busy building sites with billboards declaring that they are subsidised by the European Union, which means you and me. Spaniards relax in pleasant bars and restaurants.

Well-dressed citizens stroll beneath palm trees and chat into mobile phones. Modern warships sit in the harbour. A smart recruiting van advertises jobs in the Spanish Armada, ie the navy, a mixed-sex force very different from the 1588 version.

And then you reach the city limits, turn the corner and see the filthy, flyblown fence, its barbed wire festooned with garbage. Just beyond it is the dirty, poor chaos of Africa, pounding at the gates of Europe. The scene is painful and disturbing.

Because Morocco refuses fully to recognise the frontier, a curious tax-free-port has developed here, one which nobody looks into too closely.

Multitudes of Moroccans, dressed in the fashions of the Old Testament, cross backwards and forwards, bringing who knows what with them, and returning with Western consumer goods. Where these are too heavy to carry, they plunge into the sea and float them back. I watched border guards ignore a swimmer as he navigated a Spanish fridge along the coastline and brought it safely to shore in the Third World. It gave a whole new meaning to the phrase 'duty free'.

Not all the border incidents are so amusing. Not all can pass. Some are brusquely turned away and put in a holding pen before being sent back.

I saw one little boy waiting forlornly behind the cruel fence after being refused entry. Europe's way of life is, of course, better than Africa's, and it would be suicide to open its frontiers to all who wanted to come in, but it seems specially hard when the poor can glimpse the richer part of the world but cannot touch it.

But you can, and do, quite easily, put this upsetting sight out of your mind when you return to the town.

Nothing here is quite the same as it is in more normal parts of the world. Sitting over mint tea in a cafe where some of the other customers openly rolled joints, I asked a leading Ceuta Muslim, El Mehdi Flores (no dopesmoker he), if he wanted Muslim Morocco to take over the town. He definitely did not. 'We don't want a Moroccan administration in Ceuta under any circumstances,' he replied. He and other Muslims prefer Spanish prosperity to Moroccan poverty, enjoy the better schools and health services. He has his discontents with things as they are, but an Islamic kingdom does not seem to be the answer to them.

Later, over beer and olives in a city centre cafe, I asked a group of thirtysomething Spanish Ceutans what they would think if their Premier, Jose Maria Aznar, tried to hand them over to Morocco, as Anthony Blair is trying to hand Gibraltar to Spain. Jose Olmo Sanchez, 34 and a civil servant, spoke for them all when he said: 'There would be outrage. It would be as if the Spanish government had taken its trousers down in public, utterly undignified.' He was also scornful of Britain for being so weak. 'It would be wrong for the British government to do such a thing,' he said. 'The people of Gibraltar should choose their future in a referendum. If they want to remain British they should be allowed to carry on being British in peace.' All these modern, European-minded young men were immensely proud of Spain's recent recapture of the uninhabited Parsley Island, just down the coast, seized by the Moroccans a few months ago. They nodded fiercely when Jose said: 'For the first time in our lives we felt proud of being Spanish.' They had a similar admiration for Britain's Falklands stand.

The official Madrid line remains that there is no comparison at all between Gibraltar and Ceuta.

Attempts to speak to the local authorities met with endless excuses and postponements, though an unguarded young soldier gave the game away by saying: 'Ah, you must be here to write about the similarities between Ceuta and Gibraltar.' The Spanish Embassy in London had earlier subjected me to a stern verbal pounding for so much as mentioning the two places in the same breath. The main part of the Spanish case, all the more intense for being so shaky, is that when they got hold of Ceuta there was no such country as Morocco. This means that, unlike Gibraltar, there is no treaty governing its existence. This is not quite true (three treaties were signed with local Arabs, in 1767, 1782 and 1799).

What is true is that Spain has done what Britain should have done, and bound its colony securely and permanently to the homeland. Ceuta sends an MP to Madrid and is officially as Spanish as Seville. In fact, it is a lot more Spanish than the Basque country, which constantly demands separation. Yet again, it reminds me of Gibraltar. There, too, a small, isolated, yet tolerant and multiracial people have become much more patriotic than the citizens of their mother country. This is mainly because they have a fairly good idea of the alternative, which begins on the edge of town. It is also because, in far too many cases, the people of Britain simply do not know how lucky they are.

Both these cramped stockades are inconvenient and irritating to the politically correct potentates of the world. These grandees think we all ought to live in the featureless, multicultural paradise they dream vainly of creating.

They forget that real people like to live in small places among known neighbours who share their hopes and fears, not in a vast global wilderness where your only identity is printed on a plastic card. Long may they both survive.

 

 

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02 April 2017 12:59 AM
PETER HITCHENS: If we stopped shouting, we might actually solve Brexit

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This is Peter Hitchens's Mail on Sunday column

When a large man started swearing at me in the street last Thursday, I wasn’t especially surprised or upset. Occasional TV appearances mean all kinds of odd things happen to you.

The best two have been the angry person who strode up to me on a crowded station to say: ‘You’re that Peter Tatchell, aren’t you?’ to which I could only answer ‘No’; and the person who stopped me on a chilly morning to exclaim ‘Professor Dawkins! Jesus loves you!’ To this I had no reply.

Sometimes people, usually Guardian readers on trains, glare angrily at me without speaking for ages, seeking in vain to unnerve me. Others, I must mention, tentatively offer kind words or expressions of agreement, which is gratifying. But the swearing man was not so restrained.

He was plainly out of control. I tried to ask him to tell me exactly what the problem was, but he preferred to use various lavatory words of the sort favoured by modern comedians on the BBC. Occasionally he spluttered: ‘Just look at you!’

He was not a child or even a teenager but a mature adult, about 6ft tall and quite powerfully built. He was not unhinged by drugs.

He was a perfectly normal person inflamed by political anger. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he had what now passes for a university education. All attempts to reason, respond or even humour him met with more rage.

I admit to having told him he was incoherent in the hope of halting his flow of expletives. He stormed away and then turned round again three times, to deliver more rude words.

And then he was gone. No doubt he later told his friends, or perhaps his cat, that he’d given me a piece of his mind, which I suppose he had. I shall treasure it.

I think there are many people like this, on both sides of the European Union argument. I think they should get a grip on themselves. I had heard that, during the Munich crisis of 1938 and the Suez crisis of 1956, people ended friendships because they felt so strongly on one side or the other.

It didn’t do us much good then. It isn’t doing any good now. In fact it’s doing harm.

I have believed for many years that this country should be independent. I am far from happy with the way we are approaching this.

I also think that a majority of 52 per cent to 48 per cent obliges the winners to show respect to the losers. ‘In defeat, defiance; in victory, generosity’ always seemed to me to be a very good motto. A bit of rejoicing at the time (and a bit of moaning) were fine. But now we have to get on with life.

But if I say so, all that happens is that zealots from the ‘Leave’ side attack me as a coward or faintheart, while zealots from the ‘Remain’ side do not even notice, and continue to regard me as a neo-Nazi hate-merchant who longs to drown migrant children.

Look, everybody, this has to be a compromise. We will have to make deals with the EU. And we will have to make peace with each other. To do so, we will have to realise that, among civilised people, nobody ever gets everything he wants.

What is the point of an independent nation split into two solitudes which won’t speak to or listen to each other?

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Two major – and increasingly ridiculous - TV police dramas, first Broadchurch and now Line of Duty, focus on sex offences. They don’t seem to be interested in any other crimes, and these don’t seem to happen anywhere near the officers involved. You’d think the police have entirely given up bothering with what we used to think of as normal crime.

And now it turns out that this is very nearly what has happened. As well as ignoring great numbers of crimes, so they never even appear in the figures, the police have begun ignoring many of the crimes that they have recorded.

Last year Greater Manchester police did not investigate 57% of domestic burglary reports. London’s ultra-politically correct Metropolitan Police dropped 49% of burglary cases after ‘preliminary review’.

The Greater Manchester ‘service’ admitted it had ‘screened out’ 111,445 crimes, 45% of the total reported last year. Criminal damage, arson and shoplifting cases were also left uninvestigated in large numbers. Likewise one in three ‘public order’ offences, the sort that can make life an utter misery, were dropped.

Nationally, Freedom of Information requests have found that just 5% of the 2.1 million burglaries, yes 2.1 million, reported in Britain over the last six years have resulted in a suspect being charged. I wonder how many of those were convicted, and what then happened to them (not much has to be the best guess).No wonder many people no longer bother to report crime.

Perhaps we could have a police drama about an old-fashioned copper who actually tries to serve the people of his (or her) area by seeking to prevent crime from happening. Except that it would only last one episode before he was sent off on a diversity training course.

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31 March 2017 12:01 PM
My Reply to the Metric Zealots

A couple of days ago I responded on Twitter to a Camille Araz, in a brief discussion on why I hoped that customary measures would be restored in this country once we had left the EU(I am by no means sure that they will be, by the way).

Mr Araz had said ‘I have never been taught about yards, feet and inches, but I will try my best to learn!

I replied: ‘Useful in USA. We went to the moon in miles, yards, feet and inches. Europe liberated in these measures. Death camp fences measured in metres’.

It’s actually something I have said many times before, and will say again, as long as I live. It’s intended to stimulate thought in the intelligent. What I mean by it is quite simple.

    The continued use of customary measures is no barrier to scientific or technical advance. Indeed, Victorian Britain and the 20th century USA, hitherto the world’s most successful scientific, industrial and economic powers, both used customary measurements at the height of their success. When you think about it, there is absolutely no reason why customary measurements should be a barrier to engineering and other activities. Many who work in wood or cloth find the existence of intermediate units such as inches and feet, helpful in their calculations. Schools in metricated countries use rulers which are 30 cm long, not in any way a Metric unit, but almost exactly equivalent to a customary foot. Russian market traders sell meat not by the kilogram but by the ‘polkilo’, ‘half-kilo’, close to a customary pound. The legal persecution of market traders in Britain who wanted to use customary measures has led not to use of metric measures, but to the sale of fruit and vegetables by the ‘bowl’, a quantity which the customer can at least see before he or she buys it. Nobody understands what the metric measures mean in practice, so we have gone back to guesswork.

Customary measures are just as capable of being used precisely as are metric ones. They are also much easier to visualise when swift decisions must be made. There is rather moving film of the final descent to the Moon’s surface of the Lunar Module ‘Eagle’. The astronauts can be heard recording the module’s height above the moon…in feet. I have been led to believe that the engineering of the rockets was also done in customary measures, but would be grateful for information on this.

    The metric system is a feature of Utopian totalitarian regimes, such as the two which ran death camps in the 20th century, Stalin’s Communist and class-prejudiced USSR and Hitler’s National Socialist and racialist Third Reich. Of course it’s more complicated than that. It always is. But the metric system was introduced into the world in 1799, by the Directory, the last gasp of the blood-bespattered Jacobin revolution before it became a more straightforward and less ideological dictatorship under Bonaparte. This was the revolution which decimalised money and time, abolished the old local boundaries and provinces of France, murdered the monarch, desecrated the Churches, murdered many thousands of its opponents after kangaroo trials, or no trials at all, sometimes by beheading in public, sometimes by mass drownings, introduced a new calendar and imagined it had begun the world over again. It was the model for the 1871 Paris Commune and for the Russian Bolsheviks, also Utopian fanatics. The Utopian  Marquis de Condorcet ( arrested by the Revolutionaries and ‘found dead in his cell’ soon afterwards. At least he wasn’t ‘shot while trying to escape’ ) pronounced that it was to be ‘for all people and for all time’ . He had been a ‘moderate’, who thought Louis XVI should be sent to the galleys as a slave, rather than publicly murdered.  Similarly, the Bolsheviks imposed the metric system on Russia, in 1924, in intervals between murdering their opponents, opening the first Gulag camps, robbing churches, destroying the economy and fighting a civil war. Yet they were not too busy to do this thing, which appeals to all revolutionaries.

The French loathed the new system and by 1812 they had virtually given it up. It wasn’t reimposed on them till 1837, and in my experience is still resisted there in several interesting ways. Buy butter from a Normandy framer, and he will sell you a ‘livre’. Buy draught beer in a French café and it will come in a ‘demi’, which is not a half-litre, but much closer to a half pint. So why a ‘demi?’  And no metric fanatic has ever explained to me why no decent French(or Italian, or Spanish, or German) wine is ever sold in a litre bottle. It used to come in 72 or 73 centilitre bottles, which were obviously based on some pre-metric standard( actually equivalent to an old English measure called, amusingly, a ‘bottle’).

Of course, there are other countries where the metric system has been imposed peacefully rather than by revolution or despotism or invasion. The big exceptions are Apartheid South Africa, whose nationalists adopted decimal republican currency and the metric system to emphasise their rejection of the British Crown and Commonwealth, Australia and New Zeraland, which , in adoping the dollar and the metre sought to assert their independence from a ‘mother country’, which had left them down pretty badly in World War two. And Canada, which by adopting the metric system under Pierre Trudeau simultaneously emphasised its freedom from British influence, its bilingual European-ness and its separation from the customary USA. Yet you can still by 14-‘once’ steaks in French speaking Quebec, where the heights of arches are often still shown in ‘pieds’ and ‘pouces’.

But until much of the Anglosphere broke away , and until Britain(without ever considering the matter at an election or in Parliament) began to ditch customary measures, there had been a general congruence between Common law countries with jury trial and Bills of Rights, and customary measures. Civil code countries, with power-worshipping Roman la\w and the practical presumption of guilt, tend also be metric.

I don’t think this is accidental.  I think a country is either top down or bottom up. Utopian, cold, arid, tediously regular metric systems, based on idealism, are top-down. Quirky, flexible, poetic customary measures, with their ancient friendly names,  are bottom up. One has grown like a fort. The other has been plonked down like a housing estate.  I began to consider the subject when I realised that I felt an actual pain of loss over the wiping out of customary measures in my homeland, especially the spiteful prosecution and conviction of the greengrocer Steve Thoburn for selling bananas by the pound to customers who preferred this, still not quashed .

I sought to explain it and found the reason in the arguments above. People are always telling me how trivial it is, yet it is striking that any defence of customary measures(my sole aim) is met by a storm of petulant and snobbish rage from metric fanatics. My latest encounter with these zealots on Twitter has even led to a snide paragraph about me in The Times today. I explain in vain that I am quite happy to use the metric system and have it alongside the customary measures I prefer. I simply object to any attempt to stamp out customary measures.  But they, like all zealots,  think I am like them.

It is the same thing as monarchy, really. It just happens to be the case that almost all the longest-lasting free, law-governed countries in the world are constitutional monarchies (the main exception is the USA, which is an elective* constitutional monarchy, with disadvantages we now see). Such states are far less likely to have torture chambers, secret police and arbitrary arrest than are ‘republics’, a category which includes North Korea, apartheid south Africa and East Germany.

My short tweet was intended to stimulate thought among the intelligent. Alas, it provoked rage among, well, other people. But this is always the way, Many people just don’t like thought.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 13, 2017, 08:49:45 pm
Woooooooooops

I'd better got to bed and edit delette this mess tomorrow
Sorry
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Turkey 2 become a Dictatorship [ hidden news story ]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 14, 2017, 08:13:19 am
Erdogan to squeak victory:
Turks will vote 'yes' to granting President sweeping new powers that will lead country down the path of autocratic rule, new polls show

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4411608/Turks-vote-yes-granting-President-new-powers.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Nigel Farage explains
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 14, 2017, 09:03:44 am
Nigel Farage - Donald Trump's Foreign Policy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwlCMYvVUMA

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - South Front (video report)
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 14, 2017, 09:12:54 am
SouthFront

White House ‘Declassified Report’ On Chemical Weapons Attack In Idlib: Propaganda Or Incompetence?

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Evidence Document
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 14, 2017, 09:37:05 am
Evidence . . .
Its all about evidence . . .
Something that seems to have been forgotten.

https://disarmament-library.un.org/UNODA/Library.nsf/780cfafd472b047785257b1000501037/5f61477d793185d285257be8006b135a/%24FILE/A%2067%20997-S%202013%20553.pdf
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Russia, Syria & Iran demand No Further US Strikes
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 14, 2017, 02:28:13 pm
 Russia, Syria & Iran demand no further US strikes on Syria – foreign ministers
Title: Re: Trump says NO to Invasion Even Though Troops are Already There
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 14, 2017, 05:28:38 pm
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS ‘WE’RE NOT GOING INTO SYRIA’ EVEN THOUGH U.S. TROOPS ARE ALREADY THERE
https://wearechange.org/president-trump-says-were-not-going-into-syria-even-though-u-s-troops-are-already-there/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/852396529944014848/K5fUCXzU?format=jpg&name=600x314)

President Donald Trump announced on television last night that, “we’re not going into Syria.” As great of news as this is, perhaps we should be looking at the reality behind these claims in depth, rather than simply accepting them as verbatim fact.

For instance, multiple sources reported on March 9th that the U.S. dispatched around 400 ground forces into Syria. What is most troubling about this alert is that the Pentagon has also stopped disclosing troop numbers in the Middle East. In essence, then, there could be scores more than the 400 ground forces in Syria already. Another source, the Army Times, claims that 2,500 troops were sent out to a staging base in Kuwait (which is within striking distance of Syria) on the same day.

We already know that there are U.S. ground forces in Syria, which makes Trump’s comment, “we’re not going into Syria,” questionable because we are already in Syria. Perhaps our president needs to clarify his comments, because the American people are watching world events unfold with anxiety right now. This latest claim by Trump is even more confusing than anything.

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hucq0pYT5Pk

President Trump has already stated multiple times that he would never disclose military plans for foreign enemies. Recently on April 6, Secretary of State Tillerson admitted that, “steps are underway,” to remove Assad from power, ostensibly asserting that a plan has already been laid out and put into action for regime change.

(Continued) (https://wearechange.org/president-trump-says-were-not-going-into-syria-even-though-u-s-troops-are-already-there/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 15, 2017, 07:21:33 am
The Hasty Trump Syria Attack Game – It Doesn’t Add Up
http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO14Apr2017.php
By F. William Engdahl
14 April 2017


(http://www.williamengdahl.com/images/neo14Apr2017.png)

The US launch of 59 US Tomahawk cruise missiles at 3:40 am Syrian time on April 7, allegedly aimed to destroy the Syrian Government Shayrat military air base, according to the letter US President Trump sent Congress, was done, “in the vital national security and foreign policy interests” of the United States, done “to degrade Assad’s ability to conduct chemical weapons attacks, and to dissuade the Syrian regime from using or proliferating chemical weapons.” The entire incident leaves huge strategic questions begging serious responsible answers .

First questionable issue of many is the fact that Washington has refused to allow any serious independent investigation of the alleged Syrian government sarin gas attack by the scientifically competent UN Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), the body that certified in January 2016 that Syria’s government was free of all chemical weapons after a 2013 US near-war over allegations of Assad using sarin gas weapons.

The same UN organization supervised the removal of all Assad government chemical weapons in 2013, acting on a Russian initiative to prevent a US war in Syria. US Secretary of State Tillerson has now charged that Russia did not remove all Syrian chemical weapons in 2013. He ignores the fact that US military forces took part in 2013 in what was not a Russian operation, as the US Secretary of State Tillerson falsely charges, but an international UN OPCW operation, to remove and destroy all Syrian chemical weapons held by the Assad government, as Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to US Secretary of State Colin Powell, points out.

(continued) (http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO14Apr2017.php)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Constitutional - Trump said it ain't
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 15, 2017, 07:48:03 am
Constitutional - Trump said it ain't

(http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af266/EvadingGrid/17761215_610329729157597_234249637921023645_o.png)


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 15, 2017, 10:33:17 am
Published on Feb 5, 2017
In this video, we go over the latest diplomatic disaster between Donald Trump and Iran. We cover Sean Spicer's lies about Iran attacking the American Navy and the how this situation is getting out of hand quickly. We give you the real reasons why this is happening and the importance of this decision by the Trump administration. For more news like this join us on https://www.patreon.com/WeAreChange


I know this is old, but its still relevant and its good to see just how much WeAreChange Luke Rudow... got right.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - SouthFront
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 15, 2017, 10:40:01 am
SouthFront
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-X5jFWOmTyVM/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/A08S5o1XXco/s88-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg)
Syrian War Report - April 14

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? -2 x Russian Warships are passing through English channel
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 15, 2017, 11:32:49 am
2 x Russian Corvette Warships are passing through the English channel.
Wonder where they are going and why ?

I have no expertise in Naval matters being a landlubber with dry fur.
Still thought it worth mentioning, maybe,

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Lionel speaks [ video ]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 15, 2017, 02:10:18 pm
The Breathtaking Incoherence of American Foreign Policy as to North Korea and Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX8CJxRNeKw

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Israeli News Live - Trumps next move start or stops WW3
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 15, 2017, 02:13:27 pm

Trump's Next Move Either Stops or Starts World War III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2ljiFP-rU

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Interesting Original Theory
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 16, 2017, 07:30:47 am
Interesting Original Theory
Why I Think Trump & Putin Are Trolling The World Right Now

My deduction of current events. I believe the world is being distracted by war while the pieces are aligned behind the scenes to take out the Cabal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCgU1v0c3I
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 16, 2017, 10:31:26 am
Trump’s Middle East Policy: Shifting ‘America First’ to ‘America Omnipresent’
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/april/15/trump-s-middle-east-policy-shifting-america-first-to-america-omnipresent/
written by andrei akulov
saturday april 15, 2017

(http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/media/121103/us-troops-syria.jpg?width=445px&height=250px)

President Trump says he has no plans to enter Syria, despite ordering airstrikes on a Syrian military base last week. "We’re not going into Syria", Trump told Maria Bartiromo during an exclusive interview on FOX Business. "But when I see people using horrible, horrible chemical weapons… and see these beautiful kids that are dead in their father's arms, or you see kids gasping for life… when you see that, I immediately called General Mattis."

So, the attack against Syria was an impulsive decision and there is no strategy (not yet) and no longstanding plans! At least, that what we are told. Sounds plausible but there is each and every reason to take this affirmation with a grain of salt. Here is why.

The United States has already entered Syria. Its military is there right now. The US Air Force has recently expanded an air base in northern Syria. The base is near Kobani, which is about 90 miles north of Raqqa, the last urban stronghold for the Islamic State (IS).

It’s not Syria only. After initially reinforcing the residual forces remaining in-country, America’s military presence (Operation Inherent Resolve) was restored in Iraq in the summer of 2014, commencing a campaign, dominated by air and special operations, allegedly targeting the Islamic State (IS) group. In 2016, US military established the Kobani airfield in Syria and also set up an airfield at Qayarrah West in northern Iraq. The Kobani airstrip has been modified to support C-17s, the largest cargo aircraft which need hardened runway to support their weight, and other planes. In March alone, the airfield was used for at least 50 landings by C-17s and more than 100 landings by C-130 military cargo planes.

The United States is assessing another airstrip near the newly retaken Tabqa Dam, north of Raqqa that was taken by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces on March 26. The capture of Tabqa airfield about 110 kilometers north of Raqqa would be used in the same way as Qayyarah Airfield West in Iraq is being used for operations to retake Mosul. When finished, Tabka airfield will enable the US to deploy twice as many warplanes and helicopters in Syria as the Russians currently maintain. It is already dubbed "Incirlik 2" or "Qayyarah-2."

The new base is designed to accommodate the 2,500 US military personnel housed at Incirlik, Turkey. The administration is on the way to pull US air force units out of Turkey, to the five new and expanded air bases in Syria. In 2003, Ankara refused to let the US and its allies use its airspace when the invasion of Iraq started. The decision on airspace was reversed later but the Turkish parliament voted against the use of military bases on Turkish soil. As a result, the US operations in Iraq were significantly hindered. Now the US will not depend on Turkey anymore if Syria’s airspace is open for American flights. This is part of broader plans. (continued) (http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/april/15/trump-s-middle-east-policy-shifting-america-first-to-america-omnipresent/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 16, 2017, 02:47:33 pm
Awful

Death toll from Aleppo bus convoy bomb attack at least 126: Observatory
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-idUSKBN17H04Y
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Interesting Original Theory
Post by: Q on Apr 16, 2017, 02:53:01 pm
Interesting Original Theory
Why I Think Trump & Putin Are Trolling The World Right Now

My deduction of current events. I believe the world is being distracted by war while the pieces are aligned behind the scenes to take out the Cabal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCgU1v0c3I


I see this as delusional fantasy geopolitics.

It is a development on the '4D chess' theory and it works like this:

"I want to believe that Trump is a great leader and anti-establishment and anti-neocon so here is my contorted rationalization of what happened".

These people are in denial.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 16, 2017, 02:59:39 pm
Well I did not "buy it" but thought it was amusing.
Occam's Razor versus 4D Quantum Chess - lol


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Q on Apr 16, 2017, 03:12:47 pm
Well I did not "buy it" but thought it was amusing.
Occam's Razor versus 4D Quantum Chess - lol

Alex Jones has upgraded it to '5D chess'! on his radio show on Friday. Alex is completely lost to reason, and has been for years imo.

A good phrase which I saw recently is "Trump Firsters". That is what these people are - not America first or truth first but Trump first, and all subsequent rationalizations are classified after this fundamental principle.

In other words, it's a personality cult.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 16, 2017, 03:55:17 pm
Alex Jones has upgraded it to '5D chess'! on his radio show on Friday. Alex is completely lost to reason, and has been for years imo.

A good phrase which I saw recently is "Trump Firsters". That is what these people are - not America first or truth first but Trump first, and all subsequent rationalizations are classified after this fundamental principle.

What bugs me is its the same people that called out the Obama Personality Cult that are the worst.
When I first got into all of this, we all came from different backgrounds but we all united behind exposing 9/11.

Looks too me like somebody did a really good job shattering the Truth Movement, which in the early days had people of all political backgrounds into a neo-republican personality cult.
The hate slipped in under the cover of free speech, but it ate into the movement like alien acid until it looks like its now breaching the outer hull.... Not good.

I should'nt really be surprised, as no president since JFK has not been under or a member of the illuminati.
What is shocking, is how the Alt-Media fell for the idea that Hillary was illuminati, so therefore Trump was against the illuminati.

We spent a decade saying they play both sides, they control both sides - how did we forget that ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 16, 2017, 07:14:29 pm

Looks too me like somebody did a really good job shattering the Truth Movement, which in the early days had people of all political backgrounds into a neo-republican personality cult.


We seem to love heroes; and stick by them even when they have proven to be only human, on the take, grabbing whatever benefits will help their family dynasty - and to hell with the people. That's the bottom line. Every man for himself, and they all get to ride for free on the taxpayer's backs.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Calls 4 Assads WIFE to be stripped of Citizenship
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 17, 2017, 05:28:12 am
Bashar al-Assad's Instagram-loving wife faces calls to be stripped of her UK citizenship after she used her social media accounts to accuse the West of lying over Sarin attack
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4416032/Calls-Asma-al-Assad-s-UK-citizenship-revoked.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - another ISIS chemical attack in Mosul
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 17, 2017, 06:22:49 am
ISIS launches 2nd chemical attack in Mosul in 2 days, injures 6 Iraqi soldiers
https://www.rt.com/news/384995-isis-chemical-gas-attack-mosul/

(https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.04/original/58f44288c36188931b8b45fb.jpg)

At least six Iraqi soldiers have suffered inhalation problems following a chemical attack launched by Islamic State on Sunday. This is the second time in two days that the terrorists have used chemical agents to push back government forces in Mosul.


READ MORE
https://www.rt.com/news/384995-isis-chemical-gas-attack-mosul/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - ‘I don’t believe a word of it’ – CIA whistleblower
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 17, 2017, 06:31:46 am
‘I don’t believe a word of it’ – CIA whistleblower on US intelligence about Syria chemical attack
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/384614-un-resolution-syria-russia/

The UN, not the unilateral bombing of Syria should have been the first stop for US diplomacy, says whistleblowing former CIA analyst John Kiriakou. As for evidence the American politicians claim they have; he says “they are making this stuff up.”

(https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.04/original/58ef45fbc46188d96c8b457e.jpg)


John Kiriakou
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kiriakou
He was the first U.S. government official to confirm in December 2007 that waterboarding was used to interrogate Al Qaeda prisoners, which he described as torture.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - “MAD MAX SYRIA”
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 18, 2017, 07:33:01 am
TRUMP’S ABRUPT REGIME-CHANGE PIVOT
RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT A “MAD MAX SYRIA” SHOULD ASSAD FALL

https://theintercept.com/2017/04/17/trumps-abrupt-regime-change-pivot-raises-concerns-about-a-mad-max-syria-should-assad-fall/
Alex Emmons
April 17 2017, 10:32 a.m


PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CRUISE-MISSILE strike against Syria was celebrated by establishment politicians and media, their glee at striking a blow against Bashar al-Assad swamping any rational discussion of what happens next.

Assad is undoubtedly the most despicable war criminal in power today. His forces have ruthlessly starved and bombed hundreds of thousands of his own people, and tortured and executed thousands more.

But the enthusiasm to take military action against a hated leader is highly reminiscent of the run-up to U.S. interventions in Iraq and Libya. And the U.S. is even less prepared to cope with the potentially disastrous consequences in Syria.

Throughout his campaign, Trump condemned regime change, and it seemed as if he had learned from previous presidents’ mistakes. Even as late as last month, UN Ambassador Nikki Haley told reporters “our priority is no longer to sit and focus on getting Assad out.”

But after the cruise missile attack, the Trump’s administration instantaneously reversed itself. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has said “steps are underway” to seek Assad’s removal, and Haley told CNN it is “hard to see a government that’s peaceful and stable with Assad [in power].”

What that means in real life is unclear. Trump told Fox Business News that the U.S. is not going to war with Syria, leaving observers to conclude that he either intends to have Assad removed in some other way — or to demand Assad’s removal as a part of peace negotiations like the ones taking place in Geneva.

But swiftly removing the Assad regime would have a dramatic and destabilizing effect on a country that is increasingly governed by local mafias and warlords, and where the largest opposition groups are ISIS and Al Qaeda-connected militias.

“Once the policy people look at what the day after would be — they don’t see any options,” said Josh Landis, the director of the Center For Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma. “The two strongest militias in Syria are Al Qaeda and ISIS, which would undoubtedly profit and would move into Damascus, were the Assad regime to be destroyed.”

Landis said that any gains made by rebel groups would inevitably lead to sectarian violence against minorities, and would have dire humanitarian consequences for the 15 million people who currently live in Assad-controlled territory.

Although the Assad regime is responsible for the majority of the hundreds of thousands of deaths in the 6-year-old civil war, rebel groups — often U.S.-armed — have also been guilty of horrific human rights violations, from abductions and torture, to mass executions and child beheadings.

Rebel violence has particularly affected Syria’s minorities, like Christians and Alawites — a Shia sect that Assad belongs to — as well as Sunnis from pro-government areas, who have been perceived as supporting Assad.

“We’ve seen that wherever rebel militias have taken Alawite or Christian regions,” Landis said,
“the Alawites flee within 24 hours. There are no Alawites left, or else they’re taken captive.
And Christians are gone. … That’s what’s most likely to happen in the rest of Syria if the Syrian army were destroyed.”


And if emboldened rebel groups end up fighting over Damascus — Syria’s capital city — it could force millions of minorities and middle-class Sunnis to flee, exacerbating a refugee crisis that has already led 11.6 million people to flee their homes.

The most recent and horrific massacre took place on Friday, when a car bomb likely directed by anti-government forces destroyed buses carrying mostly Shia families fleeing from pro-government towns, killing over 100 people.

“A number of people have argued with me that having a ‘Mad Max Syria’ with roving gangs or roving militias carving out bases would cause fewer deaths than Assad.” Landis said. The day-to-day body counts might go down because there would no longer be an air force, he said. “They would be restricted to shooting at each other with more conventional weapons. But that could go on for a long time.”

(https://prod01-cdn07.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2017/04/assad-syria-us-convoy-trump-military-isis-1492203897-1024x682.jpg)
A convoy of U.S. forces armored vehicles drives near the village of Yalanli,
on the western outskirts of the northern Syrian city of Manbij, on March 5, 2017.


ONE REQUIREMENT FOR post-Assad Syria is to reintegrate warlord militias into a government, said Maha Yahya, the director of the Carnegie Middle East Center.

“Syria is quite broken. It’s not just Jabhat al-Nusra [Al Qaeda] and ISIS and all the other military forces on the ground, but there is this whole network of mafias, warlords — the power structures have changed from inside considerably.”

“Even in territories that are still under the control of the regime,” said Daniel Neep, a professor at Georgetown University and expert on Syrian politics, “security and economic functions have been subcontracted to these local warlords. … There’s going to have to be a certain accommodation of those warlords in whatever post-conflict settlement is made.”

In his 2014 book “No Good Men Among the Living,” journalist Anand Gopal wrote that the U.S.’s failure to understand rival warlords was a key reason why behind the resurgence of the Taliban in Afghanistan in 2002. Gopal explained that U.S. officials understood local politics so poorly that Afghan warlords and former mujahedeen fighters could convince overzealous U.S. military forces to remove their political rivals — even if they supported the government. Gopal documented some cases where U.S. special forces were tricked into killing U.S.-backed Afghan government officials.

In Libya, the U.S.’s inability to make peace among rival warlords and rebel groups was a key reason for the chaos that followed the U.S.-led intervention in 2011 and the killing of Moammar Gadhafi. “Libya’s tragedy was in many ways, that this did not take place, said Yahya. “And this is again what happened in Iraq.
You go in, take out the autocrat, and then nothing is left in place.”

(continued) (https://theintercept.com/2017/04/17/trumps-abrupt-regime-change-pivot-raises-concerns-about-a-mad-max-syria-should-assad-fall/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - ISIS in talks with Al-Qaeda - CIA ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 18, 2017, 07:34:32 am
Just, WHO would broker such peace talks to unite the opposition against secular govt of syria ?
I'm betting its the CIA !!!

ISIS in talks with Al-Qaeda, Iraqi vice president warns
https://www.rt.com/news/385134-isis-alliance-alqaeda-iraqi/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Trump Not Cancelling World War 3 After All [WeAreChange]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 18, 2017, 11:39:55 am
Trump Won't Be Cancelling World War 3 After All
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 19, 2017, 09:06:49 am
The Syrian Opposition Foreign Merc's ?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9RiBcwXsAAqVGE.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Fake Syrian Child same agent ---> JK Rowling ----- wOoPs...
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 20, 2017, 06:05:12 am
PartisanGirl - SyrianGirl

The fake Syrian child has the same agent as JK Rowling?
-- Partisan Girl

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9ueNZzWsAUZXVq.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Peering Through the Smoke [ UK Col]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 20, 2017, 03:53:56 pm
http://www.ukcolumn.org
US Missile Attack on Syria – Peering Through the Smoke
http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/us-missile-attack-syria-%E2%80%93-peering-through-smoke

http://www.ukcolumn.org by David Scott Wednesday, 12th April 2017

Since President Donald Trump ordered the US missile attack on Syria, the international media response via BBC World Service, Fox News, MSNBC, CNN and the like has been astounding. The message they have broadcast has been clear, unanimous and irrational: the chemical attack was by Assad’s Syrian “regime” and the US response has reset the Trump presidency which is now back on the, admittedly difficult, path to world salvation via American exceptionalism.

To illustrate the nature of this narrative, where better than the New York Times, or as President Trump, until recently, used to call it, “the failing New York Times”. Specifically I have been struck by a piece by the New York Times Middle East reporter Anne Barnard titled “Assad Aimed to Crush Hope”.

To briefly introduce this reporter, she is the NYTimes Beirut bureau chief, covering Syria and the Middle East. She is also described as "a former Boston Globe Iraq-ME buro chief. Russia hand. Mother. New Yorker."

Wikipedia records that Anne Barnard is "an American journalist who works for the New York Times as Beirut Bureau Chief. She was born in New York City, studied at Yale University, and from 1993 to 1995 reported for the Moscow Times. She then worked for the Philadelphia Inquirer from 1996 to 2000, and for the Boston Globe as Baghdad Bureau Chief and Middle East Bureau Chief from 2003 until 2007, when she joined the New York Times staff. In 2011, she received the Mike Berger Award from Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism."

So we are not talking about a reporter fresh out of journalism school. This woman has an impressive CV with considerable time spent in the middle east, concentrating on reporting events in that troubled and turbulent region. This can be no case of youth, inexperience or naivety generating flawed reporting. What Anne Barnard writes, she writes knowing the facts and deciding on a narrative.

Her NYTimes article “Assad Aimed to Crush Hope” was printed in the international edition (not available online) but was essentially a reprint of a 6th April report, “The Grim Logic Behind Syria’s Chemical Weapons Attack”. This begins:

Quote

    The diplomatic situation had been looking bright for President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. With the help of Russia, he had consolidated his power, the rebels were on their heels and the United States had just declared that ousting him was not a priority. So why would Mr. Assad risk it all, outraging the world by attacking civilians



Why indeed? This is a good question for, as Ms Barnard immediately acknowledges, such a move is being called inexplicable, crazy and against the interests of Assad and the Syrian Government. Her answer is brief and evidence free:

Quote

    Yet, rather than an inexplicable act, analysts say, it is part of a carefully calculated strategy of escalating attacks against civilians.


So “Analysts” are the authority for this view. That sounds better than “un-named sources”, but remains a vague, unattributable source given a title implying authority and knowledge. In short, given that this is the whole point of the article and the core of her argument, what we see here is a deception. And on it goes:

Quote


    For years, at least since it began shelling neighborhoods with artillery in 2012, then bombing them from helicopters and later from jets, the Syrian government has adopted a policy of seeking total victory by making life as miserable as possible for anyone living in areas outside its control.

    Government forces have been herding defeated opponents from across the country into Idlib Province, where the chemical attack occurred. Starved and bombed out of their enclaves, they are bused under lopsided surrender deals to the province, where Qaeda-linked groups maintain a presence the Syrian military uses as an excuse to bomb without regard for the safety of civilians


This seems, in part, an accusation that Assad is prosecuting a war against vicious terrorists but is not being nice enough when doing so; a strangely naive approach for an experienced journalist. It accepts the US government narrative as entirely factual and proceeds to bend the subsequent analysis to suit, with these strange viewpoints emerging as an inevitable result.

And again we have the deceptive language. “Qaeda-linked groups maintain a presence” might be translated as “tens of thousands of heavily armed insurgents, including Al Qaeda-linked Islamic extremists maintain military control.” But “presence” is the term she prefers. It implies that Assad is motivated not by military necessity in a long vicious war against a ruthless enemy, but rather by a wish to kill civilians who do not support him, using any excuse to do so. It is a carefully crafted calumny against the leader of a government which, though authoritarian, retains the support of a large part of the Syrian population and has a record of defending the rights of minorities which contrasts with the murderous nature of the Islamic state. If you were a Syrian Christian or other minority, who would you support? Rebranded Al-Qaeda groups, Islamic State or the Syrian Government. The choice seems obvious but this is not a question Anne Barnard chooses to address in this article.

Looking for other sources she quotes Dr. Monzer Khalil, Idlib Province’s health director who said

Quote

such extreme tactics aimed to demonstrate the government’s impunity and to demoralize its foes.


She takes this quote on face value and fails to ask the obvious questions:

1. Does the Health Director (a government post in insurgent controlled area) have an agenda in stating this?

2. How could the health director know the aims of the Assad government in an apparently crazy move to use chemical weapons when the war is all but won? He is not a political or military figure, so how could he possibly know the mind of President Assad?

This is in reality no better than “analysts say”.

Her next source is Heinrich Böll Foundation, which does sound more independent and authoritative. They said:

Quote

Militarily, there is no need,” said Bente Scheller, the Middle East director of the Berlin-based Heinrich Böll Foundation. “But it spreads the message: You are at our mercy. Don’t ask for international law. You see, it doesn’t protect even a child.


Who are they you ask? A German green political foundation! They campaign on left wing politics and environmental issues, that is to say their main focus is on plastic waste at sea, global warming and the like. What expertise have they in Syria? None that I can see; they simply echo the current left wing orthodoxy that Russia is bad, and the NYTimes is righteous. Is this really the best quote that the NYTimes could muster to prop up their narrative? This is fake news, a false narrative bolstered by voices who, for ideology or gain, will back the narrative, without evidence or independent thought playing any part.

And as for the other side of the argument; this is dealt with as follows:

Quote

    On Thursday, Syria’s foreign minister challenged accounts by witnesses, experts and world leaders that his government was involved. “I stress to you once again: The Syrian Army has not, did not and will not use this kind of weapons — not just against our own people, but even against the terrorists that attack our civilians with their mortar rounds,” the minister, Walid al-Moallem, said in Damascus.

    But the denial, as well as a Russian assertion that a bomb hit a chemical weapons depot controlled by the rebels, seemed perfunctory, almost without regard to the facts, which Western governments said pointed to a Syrian government hand.


More of the same; this is what passes for journalism these days. On one side we have “witnesses, experts and world leaders”. The witnesses will be such as the white helmets, who are the terrorists; the experts are green party activists in Germany, and those acting as propagandists for the insurgents; the world leaders are the political interests fighting over Syria. But the categorical denials from the Syrian government “seemed perfunctory” and “almost” without regard to the facts. Almost? And those facts do not point to a culprit, no, Western Governments say they point to a culprit. In terms of information, this is smoke; an irritant used to conceal strategic movement. The words are crafted to conceal the total lack of evidence for the American missile strike. and to obscure the movement in policy.

Ms Barnard next returns to again quote Dr Khalil:

Quote

    We are aware that we are in this Qaeda trap,” Dr. Khalil said. “But in Idlib we have 2.2 million people, and how many Qaeda fighters? You cannot kill the two million for their sake.


This is, of course, a strawman argument, for whatever the flaws of the Assad government, no one could legitimately suggest killing millions of civilians has been part of their history or policy.

The NYTimes article completes with a litany of previous "convictions" against the Assad regime for using chlorine gas and sarin nerve agent. This is to bolster the conclusion that Assad, despite having a winning military hand, deviously calculated that now was the right time for a chemical attack because it would show the west to be weak and unable to help the opponents of the “regime”.

The illogicality of this position is stark. Not only do the claims regarding Assad’s motivation make no sense in strategic terms, running the risk of bringing in western involvement when otherwise his war is almost won; they also make no sense as the western powers claim to have no dog in this fight. With the failure of US military attempts to train and deploy “moderate rebel forces”, the war is between Assad, The Islamic State and Al-Qaeda affiliates. Who can the west back? Who can they portray as the plucky rebels fighting for liberty? The US air force is already in action against the Islamic State in both Iraq and Syria. Al-Qaeda is a long time bogey man and hate figure for western governments and clearly and correctly labelled a terrorist organisation. Short of a full scale invasion (Iraq-style) seeking to take over Syria by military means what can the west actually do (other than support Assad of course)?

So, if this is simply smoke, what then is the real message of the missile attack? I suggest that it is, indeed, significant, and does, undeniably, crush hope: just not in the manner suggested by the NYTimes.

The hope that has been crushed is the hope placed in Donald Trump by the American people. They looked at the corrupt political establishment in Washington - personified by Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton and Bush domination of politics. They rejected more of the same, instead voting for an outsider from beyond the political world. They elected an abrasive, plain-talking man they could relate to: a man who pointed at CNN and said “you are fake news”: a man who would “Make America Great Again” by going to Washington to “drain the swamp”. Simple messages crafted for a political campaign, but they were victorious because they were true. It is true that America is in decline: it is true that the Washington political world is corrupt and cares little for the interest of the nation: it is true that CNN and the NYTimes are fake news. The emergence of a POTUS prepared to speak truth to power held out the hope that, despite everything, American democracy might save itself, and the American people could use the ballot box to save their nation.

But that early hope has been under relentless attack. With some of Trump's closest advisors forced out, and with the failure to repeal Obamacare, a more variable voice was coming from the “Trump Train”. When billions of dollars were pledged to a useless vanity project - NASA’s plan for a manned landing on Mars - the decline had clearly set in. Those who value liberty and the rule of law watched these events with increasing concern, and awaited a defining moment of crisis which would show which path this administration was taking. It was the news about Syria that provided this defining moment. Still well within the first 100 days of his administration, President Trump was presented with a fork in the road.

To the right lay the difficult path of speaking the truth, and hence fighting the media, the deep state, and the military-industrial complex. That would involve joining with Russia to arrange a full investigation into what happened in Syria with the evidence presented to the world. It would be greeted by howls from the left of American politics, and from the entire media machine, about Russian influence and dead babies.

To the left lay the easier road of a foreign policy set by the fake news of CNN and the NYTimes; military action of (at best) dubious legality; and a return to a post-truth world where the narrative matters, the facts are secondary, and truth is a dirty word. In short a return to the policies of the Bush-Clinton-Obama era; those very policies that the American people had been looking for The Donald to reverse.

The choice has been made; The Donald has gone with the fake-news, world-police, Washington-establishment option. He has abandoned those who looked for him to be a way back to a better, more truthful America.

Having taken this tragic miss-step is there any way back for the Trump presidency? I suspect there is not, for how could this have happened. For months , even years, Donald Trump had been speaking and tweeting against involvement in Syria and a USA role as world policeman. Why the reverse? The reason must be either blackmail, direct threats, political pressure or a lack of ability to discern truth from lies. Whichever it is, once in control, it is unlikely that the situation will be overturned; not with the political and economic establishment pressing for more of the same. Having surrendered once to whatever type of pressure was brought to bear, how can Donald Trump ever resist the same treatment when faced with further crises, be they real or CNN-generated?

Hence, this has been the reset of the Trump presidency, and the end of the hope he represented for the people of America and of the wider world. This hope was that the tide of lies and corruption could be reversed and that democracy, despite containing within it the seeds of its own destruction, might still work to achieve a just and responsible government. It may have been a slim hope, but it was fun while it lasted.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: 2Revolutions on Apr 20, 2017, 07:45:09 pm
The Nerve Agent Attack that Did Not Occur: Analysis of the Times and Locations of Critical Events in the Alleged Nerve Agent Attack at 7 AM on April 4, 2017 in Khan Sheikhoun, Syria

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/67102.html (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/67102.html)

his analysis contains a detailed description of the times and locations of critical events in the alleged nerve agent attack of April 4, 2017 in Khan Shaykhun, Syria – assuming that the White House Intelligence Report (WHR) issued on April 11, 2017 correctly identified the alleged sarin release site.

Analysis using weather data from the time of the attack shows that a small hamlet about 300 m to the east southeast of the crater could be the only location affected by the alleged nerve agent release. The hamlet is separated from the alleged release site (a crater) by an open field. The winds at the time of the release would have initially taken the sarin across the open field. Beyond the hamlet there is a substantial amount of open space and the sarin cloud would have had to travel long additional distance for it to have dissipated before reaching any other population center.

Video taken on April 4 shows that the location where the victims were supposedly being treated from sarin exposure is incompatible with the only open space in the hamlet that could have been used for mass treatment of victims. This indicates that the video scenes where mass casualties (dead and dying) were laid on the ground randomly was not at the hamlet. If the location where the bodies were on the ground was instead a site where the injured and dead were taken for processing, then it is hard to understand why bodies were left randomly strewn on the ground and in mud as shown in the videos.

The conclusion of this summary of data is obvious – the nerve agent attack described in the WHR did not occur as claimed. There may well have been mass casualties from some kind of poisoning event, but that event was not the one described by the WHR.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - media ignoring all dissenting expert voices
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 21, 2017, 05:28:45 am
1. Theodore Postol, chemical weapons expert and professor emeritus, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
2. Jerry Smith led the UN-backed operation to remove Syria's chemical weapons in 2013
3. Peter Ford, former British ambassador to Syria
4. Philip Giraldi, former CIA officer

RT - OpED
Why is US media ignoring all dissenting expert voices on the Khan Sheikhoun attack?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/385462-chemical-attack-media-syria/
Danielle Ryan

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Trump to meet Dictator Erdogan
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 21, 2017, 05:42:03 am
Trump alleged Patriot Nationalist endorsed President Erdogan grab for Dictator Power !
Am I alone in spotting the contradiction ?
Is the Alt-Media treating Trump the same as Obama ?


Donald Trump to meet with Turkey's President Erdogan in first official White House visit
US president recently congratulated Turkish leader's controversial referendum win that gave him sweeping new powers
(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2017/04/20/16/gettyimages-670650522.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - MOAB Exposed ? [ Video ]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 21, 2017, 06:07:07 am
ActivistPost
Trump’s Wars: The MOAB and Lying Us Into War With New Enemies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJpOzEianR8

In this video, Vin Armani breaks down the official narrative behind the Mother Of All Bombs being dropped on CIA caves in Afghanistan. US has been at war in Afghanistan for 16 years, the longest war in its history. Now the US government is fighting new enemies that didn’t even exist when lawmakers originally authorized the use of force after 9/11.



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - MOAB Exposed ? [ Video ]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 21, 2017, 08:51:42 am
Really is worth watching . . .
Completely debunks the official narrative for children with Evidence and Reasoning

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - South Front (video report)
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 21, 2017, 12:52:57 pm
SouthFront
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-X5jFWOmTyVM/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/A08S5o1XXco/s88-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg)
Syrian War Report – April 17, 2017: Govt Forces Reversed All Militant Gains In Northern Hama



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - South Front (video report)
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 21, 2017, 12:54:48 pm
SouthFront


Syrian War Report – April 18, 2017: Turkish-Kurdish Tensions Increase In Northern Aleppo


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - South Front (video report)
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 21, 2017, 12:56:53 pm
SouthFront
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-X5jFWOmTyVM/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/A08S5o1XXco/s88-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg)

Syrian War Report – April 19, 2017: Is ISIS' Baghdadi Detained In Syria?


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Mattis - Laying The Groundwork For A New False Flag?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 23, 2017, 08:02:50 am
U.S. Sec. Of Defense Mattis Claims Syria Still Has Chemical Weapons; Laying The Groundwork For A New False Flag?
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/u-s-sec-of-defense-mattis-claims-syria-still-has-chemical-weapons-laying-the-groundwork-for-a-new-false-flag.html
(http://www.activistpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/syria-chem-attack-freemalaysiatoday-1024x587-1-1024x587-1.jpg)

By Brandon Turbeville

If anyone gave any credibility to what came out of the mouth of United States officials before, the Trump administration has done everything possible to eliminate what was left of America’s reputation on the world stage. What is even more concerning, however, is that the statements made by the United States are no longer couched in nuance hidden between the lines but are now open statements of intended aggression and obvious preparation for the next military assault.

Such is the type of statement coming from Defense Secretary James Mattis who recently made the claim that the Syrian government not only used chemical weapons in Khan Sheikhoun (a widely discredited claim in its own right) but that it continues to possess those weapons. The insinuation from the Defense Secretary is that the Syrian government is planning on using those weapons in the near future.


READ MORE
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/u-s-sec-of-defense-mattis-claims-syria-still-has-chemical-weapons-laying-the-groundwork-for-a-new-false-flag.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Interesting Original Theory
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Apr 23, 2017, 08:10:57 am
Interesting Original Theory
Why I Think Trump & Putin Are Trolling The World Right Now

My deduction of current events. I believe the world is being distracted by war while the pieces are aligned behind the scenes to take out the Cabal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCgU1v0c3I

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4VCgU1v0c3I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


I thought the general thesis interesting.  The flaw with his theory is that he really believes Trump / Putin make decisions outside the council of 300.

However, with that said, I believe the NWO is 'punking' the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Interesting Original Theory
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 23, 2017, 08:19:22 am
I thought the general thesis interesting.  The flaw with his theory is that he really believes Trump / Putin make decisions outside the council of 300.

However, with that said, I believe the NWO is 'punking' the rest of the world.

Q
commented on that video here
http://forum.globalgulag.com/index.php?topic=619.msg5861#msg5861

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Interesting Original Theory
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 23, 2017, 09:45:05 am
I thought the general thesis interesting.  The flaw with his theory is that he really believes Trump / Putin make decisions outside the council of 300.

However, with that said, I believe the NWO is 'punking' the rest of the world.

Its good to see blame being placed where it belongs, not on democrats, libtards, muzlins or jews ( yea DavidMTLE did a Jews speech earlier today )

We might have a smaller membership than PPF, but the big difference in the quality of the posts at GG as opposed to over there PPF is awesome.


Meanwhile Israeli News Live retweeted more Troop Movements:

Abnormal movements on Gire Spi border with Bakur. #Turkish army tanks&armored vehicles start suspicious move in evening,2launch attacks?ANHA


Difficult to make anything of these rumours, when journalists are more intrested in speed, sensationalism and pay cheques - as opposed to verified facts.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - McMaster of War - NewsBud Special Report [ K.Nimmo ]
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 24, 2017, 04:58:18 pm
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-wjHl6UrTTUc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/vmZp7Y91DK8/s88-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdHZela1qTNM9iIw2YxenIw)
McMaster of War
Kurt Nimmo
Published on Apr 24, 2017

H.R. McMaster, President Trump's national security advisor, is working behind the scenes to send tens of thousands of ground troops into Syria to take out the government of Bashar al-Assad. On the edition of The Geopolitical Report, we look at how Barack Obama set the stage for an escalation of U.S. intervention in a “civil war” engineered by the CIA and the Gulf Emirates. We also take a look at McMaster's record in Iraq where he mistreated detainees and his association with the convicted criminal and former CIA director David Petraeus. H.R. McMaster is Donald Trump's Master of War.


Title: Israel: There is NO Syria to 'negotiate with,' now occupation of Golan is legit
Post by: Satyagraha on Apr 24, 2017, 06:38:37 pm
Israel Makes It Official: The Destruction of Syria Will Legitimize Israeli Land Grabs
http://russia-insider.com/en/israel-makes-it-official-destroying-syria-will-legitimize-land-grabs/ri19676
Israel argues that there is no Syria to 'negotiate with' — which means the occupation of the Golan is now 'legitimate'
4/24/17

Israel's deputy minister for diplomacy Michael Oren has announced that 'there is no Syria to negotiate with',
which means that Israel's illegal occupation of the Golan should be recognized by the international community.


Capitalizing on the chaos and destruction of a six-year war to push for international recognition of occupied land? That's not very neighborly.

According to Oren, "Without Israel there [in the Golan], the region would be jeopardized. ISIS would be on the Kinneret."

Perhaps this is the reason why Israel has repeatedly targeted the Syrian Army and its allies fighting Islamic State in Syria, instead of bombing ISIS?

As Al Masdar News reported on Sunday, the Israeli Air Force carried out its second attack against Syrian forces this month, targeting forces stationed in the Golan:

Quote
Why the Israeli military chooses to target the only force in southern Syria that is fighting
both Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State (ISIL) is often debated by all parties in this six year long conflict.

However, to the Syrian government, Israel’s actions are clear; they are providing air support to the groups
fighting the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and their allies, such as Hezbollah and Harakat Nujaba (Iraqi paramilitary).

The cynicism at play here is truly spectacular.

Recall that earlier this month Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu argued that Israel needs buffer zones on Syrian territory to protect the Israeli-occupied Golan.

In other words: Israel wants the international community to recognize the occupation, and 'protect' it.

(continued) (http://russia-insider.com/en/israel-makes-it-official-destroying-syria-will-legitimize-land-grabs/ri19676)
Title: Re: Israel: There is NO Syria to 'negotiate with,' now occupation of Golan is legit
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 25, 2017, 05:49:58 am

Israel's deputy minister for diplomacy Michael Oren has announced that 'there is no Syria to negotiate with',
which means that Israel's illegal occupation of the Golan should be recognized by the international community.



Public  : Don't be silly Israel would never, ever, support ISIS
Reality : My enemies enemy is my friend

The Golan is strategic to the existence of Israel, many documentaries dealing with the Yom Kippur War 1973 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War) explain the strategic importance of the area, before describing battles such as the epic Battle of the Valley of Tears (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Tears). It can be taken back further to the 1967 Six Day War, but equally it can be traced back into the Old Testament Times.

Balance ?

Syria can not tolerate an Israeli occupied Golan heights because the Israeli Army would threaten its Capitol City Damascus.
Likewise; Israel can not tolerate a Syrian occupied Golan heights, because it threatens pretty much all of Northern Israel and the Water Supply.

You might think that both sides should work out a deal acceptable to both parties, ensuring peace security and prosperity, but that is to completely misunderstand the region. Victory is valued over Peace, and the true goal is Total Genocide of the other side . . . Additionally, the notion that only two sides are involved is an epic mistake, as both sides in the quest for seeking an advantage over the other side, have become prostitute to foreign backers who have absolutely no interest in peace what so ever.

Indeed morality and peace are a high risk occupation, liable to bring down the wrath of both sides . . . . Your more likely to end dead campaigning for peace, than by picking up a gun.

Who is Fighting on Golan ?

Assad's Syrian Govt Army
Israel - distance weapons such as air strikes.
Russia - again distance weapons such as air strikes.
Hezbollah ?
ISIS ?
Al Qaeda ?
Druze ?
Why even the French Air-Force visited for an Air Strike



See Also

Yom Kippur War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

Valley of Tears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Tears

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 26, 2017, 04:39:22 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Israel - Air Support for ISIS !
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 27, 2017, 04:38:17 am
I'm getting Intel that Israel is preparing to Strike INTO Syria
Difficult to get reliable data, but Israel does want to annex Golan Heights, and now might be a good time to step in - after taking out some of the Syrian Air Defence covering that one area of Syria. Turkey is another to watch from the north with its Neo-Otterman Imperial ambitions and looney toons leader.

RT
Strikes near Damascus ‘in line with Israel policy to stop Iran arms transfers’ – Israeli minister
https://www.rt.com/news/386286-damascus-airport-blast-fire/





Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Russia versus Saudi Arabia
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 27, 2017, 04:51:18 am
Another player relationship to watch, as the Saudi People are obsessed with Shia Iran as the ultimate Boogeyman.

Russian and Saudi FMs clash over Syria & Iran
https://www.rt.com/news/386265-lavrov-jubeir-disagreements-syria/
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 28, 2017, 06:29:43 am
RT
Israel shoots down Syrian drone over Golan hours after Damascus airport ‘incident’
https://www.rt.com/news/386401-israel-shoots-syrian-drone/
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 28, 2017, 06:43:21 am

Bulgarian Weapons Sent to Terrorists in Syria Through Saudi Arabia
By Andrew Cheetham on 28 April 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/410273/bulgarian-weapons-sent-terrorists-syria-saudi-arabia
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 28, 2017, 06:43:44 am
https://www.davidicke.com/article/410269/trump-puppet-us-deep-state-no-foreign-policy-assad
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 28, 2017, 07:11:00 am
i24NEWS
Cargo planes from Iran landed in Damascus hours before alleged Israeli strike
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/143751-170427-syrian-media-claims-israeli-aircraft-bombed-damascus-airport

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Israel's Minister of Intelligence said the strike was consistent with policy regarding the transfer of weapons

Four Iranian cargo planes landed at the airport outside Damascus in the hours before the alleged Israeli strike on Syrian military compound early Thursday morning, reported Haaretz citing a flight radar tracking site, flightradar24.com.

The flights were both military and commercial, originating from Iranian capital, Tehran.

According to Haaretz, two Iranian 747 cargo planes, an Iranian Ilyushin il-76 and a Syrian Ilyushin il-76 landed in Damascus just hours before the strike took place at 3:25 AM, according to the tracking site.

The strike's target, according to an intelligence source to Reuters, was a Hezbollah arms hub often used as a transit point from Tehran.

In line with its usual practice, Israel's military declined to comment on the latest blast.

The Kremlin on Thursday called for restraint after Syria accused Israel of firing several missiles at a military position near the Damascus airport.

"We continue to consider that all countries need to refrain from any kind of actions that lead to an increase in tension in this already restive region and call for respect of the sovereignty of Syria," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

Russia, which has deployed its forces to back up the Syrian regime, has a hotline set up to avoid clashes with Israeli jets in the skies over the war-torn country.

Peskov did not confirm if Israel had warned Moscow of the strike, saying only that the two nations' "defence ministries are in constant dialogue".

Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova later went further than the Kremlin and slammed the alleged Israeli strikes.

"Gross violations of Syrian sovereignty -- no matter how they are justified -- are unacceptable," she said in a televised briefing.

"Moscow condemns acts of aggression against Syria."

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Syrian state media earlier on Thursday accused Israel of carrying out the huge blast which struck near Damascus airport in the early morning hours.

"A military position southwest of Damascus International Airport was targeted at dawn today by an Israeli aggression using several missiles fired from occupied territory, sparking explosions in the area," the SANA news agency said, citing a military source.

Earlier, Israel's Minister of Intelligence Israel Katz seemed to hint that this could be the case, telling Army Radio that the strike was consistent with Israeli policy regarding the transfer of weapons to Hezbollah.

There was an explosion at weapons and fuel depots belonging to Assad regime forces and Iranian-linked militia, the Hezbollah-affiliated Al-Manar news network reported. There were no reports of any injuries.

Reports circulating in Arab media claimed that the Israeli air force hit the location five times at around 5am local time, targeting weapons that were arriving for Iranian-backed militant groups.

According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a London-based monitoring group, the explosions caused a fire.

"The blast was huge and could be heard in Damascus," said Rami Abdel Rahman, head of the group.

The Damascus International Airport lies about 25 kilometers southeast of Syria's capital.

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The Observatory, which gathers information from sources across war-ravaged Syria, said it had confirmed the explosion had not taken place inside the airport itself.

"It's unclear what caused the explosion, but there fires raging at the site," Abdel Rahman told AFP.

Contacted by i24NEWS, Israel Defense Forces spokesperson offered no comment on the reports.

In January a series of explosions ripped through the al-Mazzeh military airport on the western outskirts of Damascus. Syrian media was quick to attribute the airstrikes to the Israel Defense Forces. State news agency SANA said Israel had launched the missiles from Israeli territory north of the Sea of Galilee.

On Friday the military said that it had hit targets in Syria in response to three projectiles that landed in the Israeli Golan Heights earlier, in what the army said was likely stray fire from Syria's civil war. There were no injuries or damage.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Israel + ISIS
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 28, 2017, 01:08:07 pm

Israel Provides Air Support for Syrian Jihadists — Again
http://russia-insider.com/en/military/israel-provides-air-support-syrian-jihadists-again/ri19695

Israel just reminded the world that it is the de facto air force for Salafist head-choppers terrorizing Syria
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Apr 30, 2017, 08:14:32 pm

Faking It: How the Media Manipulates the World into War
http://www.globalresearch.ca/faking-it-how-the-media-manipulates-the-world-into-war/5336838

By James Corbett

This GRTV production by James Corbett was first released in January 2012 at the height of Obama’s first term in office.

In the light of the recent media disinformation campaign in relation to Syria, not to mention the ‘fake news’ and “Russia hacking” campaign directed against the independent-alternative media, we bring this carefully researched video-documentary report to the attention of GR readers.

M. Ch. Global Research, March 16, 2017


As the drums of war begin to beat once again in Iran, Syria, the South China Sea, and other potential hotspots and flashpoints around the globe, concerned citizens are asking how a world so sick of bloodshed and a population so tired of conflict could be led to this spot once again.

To understand this seeming paradox, we must first understand the centuries-long history of how media has been used to whip the nation into wartime frenzy, dehumanize the supposed enemies, and even to manipulate the public into believing in causes for war that, decades later, were admitted to be completely fictitious.

As the US and Iranian governments escalate tensions in the already volatile Straits of Hormuz, and China and Russia begin openly questioning Washington’s interference in their internal politics, the world remains on a knife-edge of military tension. Far from being a dispassionate observer of these developments, however, the media has in fact been central to increasing those tensions and preparing the public to expect a military confrontation. But as the online media rises to displace the traditional forms by which the public forms its understanding of the world, many are now beginning to see first hand how the media lies the public into war.…

(VIDEO) (http://www.globalresearch.ca/faking-it-how-the-media-manipulates-the-world-into-war/5336838)

The term “yellow journalism” was coined to describe the type of sensationalistic, scandal-driven, and often erroneous style of reporting popularized by newspapers like William Randolph Hearst’s New York Journal. In one of the most egregious examples of this phenomenon, Hearst’s papers widely trumpeted the sinking of the Maine as the work of the Spanish. Whipped into an anti-Spanish frenzy by a daily torrent of stories depicting Spanish forces’ alleged torture and rape of Cubans, and pushed over the edge by the Maine incident, the public welcomed the beginning of the US-Spanish war. Although it is now widely believed that the explosion on the Maine was due to a fire in one of its coal bunkers, the initial lurid reports of Spanish involvement stuck and the nation was led into war.

In many ways, the phrase infamously attributed to Hearst in reply to his illustrator “You furnish the pictures and I’ll furnish the war,” apocryphal as the story may be, nevertheless perfectly encodes the method by which the public would be led to war time and again through the decades.

The US was drawn into World War I by the sinking of the Lusitania, a British ocean liner carrying American passengers that was torpedoed by German U-boats off the coast of Ireland, killing over 1,000 of its passengers. What the public was not informed about at the time, of course, was that just one week before the incident, then-First Lord of the Admiralty Winston Churchill had written to the President of the Board of Trade that it was “most important to attract neutral shipping to our shores, in the hopes especially of embroiling the United States with Germany.” Nor did reports of the attack announce that the ship was carrying rifle ammunition and other military supplies. Instead, reports once again emphasized that the attack was an out-of-the-blue strike by a maniacal enemy, and the public was led into the war.

The US involvement in World War II was likewise the result of deliberate disinformation. Although the Honolulu Advertiser had even predicted the attack on Pearl Harbor days in advance, the Japanese Naval codes had already been deciphered by that time, and that even Henry Stimson, the US Secretary of War, had noted in his diary the week before that he had discussed in a meeting with Roosevelt “how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves,” the public were still led to believe that the Pearl Harbor attack had been completely unforeseen. Just last month, a newly-declassified memo emerged showing that FDR had been warned of an impending Japanese attack on Hawaii just three days before the events at Pearl Harbor, yet the history books still portray Pearl Harbor as an example of a surprise attack.

In August 1964, the public was told that the North Vietnamese had attacked a US Destroyer in the Gulf of Tonkin on two separate occasions. The attacks were portrayed as a clear example of “communist aggression” and a resolution was soon passed in Congress authorizing President Johnson to begin deploying US forces in Vietnam. In 2005, an internal NSA study was released concluding that the second attack in fact never took place. In effect, 60000 American servicemen and as many as three million Vietnamese, let alone as many as 500,000 Cambodians and Laotians, lost their lives because of an incident that did not occur anywhere but in the imagination of the Johnson administration and the pages of the American media.

In 1991, the world was introduced to the emotional story of Nayirah, a Kuwaiti girl who testified about the atrocities committed by Iraqi forces in Kuwait.

What the world was never told was that the incident had in fact been the work of a public relations firm, Hill and Knowltown, and the girl had actually been the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador. Once again, the public was whipped into a frenzy of hatred for the Hussein regime, not for the documented atrocities that it had actually committed on segments of its own population with weapons supplied to them by the United States itself, but on the basis of an imaginary story told to the public via their televisions, orchestrated by a pr firm.

In the lead-up to the war on Iraq, the American media infamously took the lead in framing the debate about the Iraqi government’s weapons of mass destruction NOT as a question of whether or not they even existed, but as a question of where they had been hidden and what should be done to disarm them. The New York Times led the way with Judith Miller‘s now infamous reporting on the Iraqi WMD story, now known to have been based on false information from untrustworthy sources, but the rest of the media fell into line with the NBC Nightly News asking “what precise threat Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction pose to America”, and Time debating whether Hussein was “making a good-faith effort to disarm Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.” Reports about chemical weapons stashes were reported on before they were confirmed, although headlines boldly asserted their existence as indisputable fact. We now know that in fact the stockpiles did not exist, and the administration premeditatedly lied the country into yet another war, but the most intense opposition the Bush administration ever received over this documented war crime was some polite correction on the Sunday political talk show circuit.

Remarkably, the public at large has seemingly learned nothing from all of these documented historical manipulations. If anything, the media has become even bolder in its attempts to manipulate the public’s perceptions, perhaps emboldened by the fact that so few in the audience seem willing to question the picture that is being painted for them on the evening news.

Later that year, CNN aired footage of a bombed out Tskhinvali in South Ossetia, falsely labeling it as footage of Gori, which they said had been attacked by the Russians.

In 2009, the BBC showed a cropped image of a rally in Iran which they claimed was a crowd of protesters who assembled to show their opposition to the Iranian government. An uncropped version of the same photograph displayed on the LA Times’ website, however, revealed that the photo in fact came from a rally in support of Ahmedinejad.

In August of 2011, the BBC ran footage of what they claimed was a celebration in Tripoli’s Green Square. When sharp-eyed viewers noticed that the flags in the footage were in fact Indian flags, the BBC was forced to admit that they had “accidentally” broadcast footage from India instead of Tripoli.

Also that month, CNN reported on a story from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights claiming that eight infants in incubators had died in a hospital in Hama when Syrian authorities cut off power in the area. Some news sites evencarried pictures of the infants. The images were later admitted to have been taken in Egypt and no evidence has ever emerged to back up the accusations.

As breathtaking as all of these lies, manipulations and so-called “mistakes” are, they in and of themselves don’t represent the only functions of the media for the war machine. Now, the US government is taking the lead in becoming more and more directly involved with the shaping of the media message on war propaganda, and the general public is becoming even more ensnared in a false picture of the world through the Pentagon’s own lens.

In 2005, the Bush White House admitted to producing videos that were designed to look like news reports from legitimate independent journalists, and then feeding those reports to media outlets as prepackaged material ready to air on the evening news. When the Government Accountability Office ruled that these fake news reports in fact constituted illegal covert propaganda, the White House simply issued a memo declaring the practice to be legal.

In April 2008, the New York Times revealed a secret US Department of Defense program that was launched in 2002 and involved using retired military officers to implant Pentagon talking points in the media. The officers were presented as “independent analysts” on talk shows and news programs, although they had been specially briefed beforehand by the Pentagon. In December of 2011, the DoD’s own Inspector General released a report concluding that the program was in perfect compliance with government policies and regulations.

Earlier this year, it was revealed the the US government had contracted with HBGary Federal to develop software that create fake social media accounts in order to steer public opinion and promote propaganda on popular websites. The federal contract for the software sourced back to the MacDill Air Force Base in Florida.

As the vehicle through which information from the outside world is captured, sorted, edited and transmitted into our homes, the mass media has the huge responsibility of shaping and informing our understanding of events to which we don’t have first-hand access. This is an awesome responsibility in even the most ideal conditions, with diligent reporters guided by trustworthy editors doing their level best to report the most important news in the most straightforward way.

But in a media landscape where a handful of companies own virtually all of the print, radio and television media in each nation, the only recourse the public has is to turn away from the mainstream media altogether. And that is precisely what is happening.

As study after study and report after report has shown, the death of the old media has accelerated in recent years, with more and more people abandoning newspapers and now even television as their main source of news. Instead, the public is increasingly turning toward online sources for their news and information, something that is necessarily worrying for the war machine itself, a system that can only truly flourish when the propaganda arm is held under monopolistic control.

But as citizens turn away from the New York Times and toward independent websites, many run and maintained by citizen journalists and amateur editors, the system that has consolidated its control over the minds of the public for generations seems to finally be showing signs that it may not be invincible.

Surely this is not to say that online media is impervious to the defects that have made the traditional media so unreliable. Quite the contrary. But the difference is that online, there is still for the time being relative freedom of choice at the individual level. While internet freedom exists, individual readers and viewers don’t have to take the word of any website or pundit or commentator on any issue. They can check the source documentation themselves, except, perhaps not coincidentally, on the websites of the traditional media bastions, which tend not to link source material and documentation in their articles.

Hence the SOPA Act, Protect IP, the US government’s attempts to seize websites at the domain name level, and all of the other concerted attacks we have seen on internet freedoms in recent years.

Because ultimately, an informed and engaged public is far less likely to go along with wars waged for power and profit. And as the public becomes better informed about the very issues that the media has tried to lie to them about for so long, they realize that the answer to all of the mainstream media’s war cheerleading and blatant manipulation is perhaps simpler than we ever suspected: All we have to do is turn them off.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 02, 2017, 04:29:24 am
ActivistPost
Photos From Syria Show White Helmets And Nusra/Qaeda Are The Same Organization
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/05/photos-from-syria-show-white-helmets-and-nusraqaeda-are-the-same-organization.html

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READ ARTICLE LOTS OF PHOTOS + VIDEO
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/05/photos-from-syria-show-white-helmets-and-nusraqaeda-are-the-same-organization.html


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Russian Military going into YPG controled areas ? ? ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 02, 2017, 12:25:07 pm
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Syrian War Report – May 2, 2017: Russia Setting Up Military Installations In YPG-held Area


Voiceover by Harold Hoover

A number of Russian troops and vehicles have entered the area of the Afrin Canton controlled by fighters of the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), according to photos and videos appearing online.

Pro-Kurdish media activists speculate that the Russian military is going to set up a military base or even a “joint military base” in the YPG-held area near the border with Turkey.

According to more neutral sources, Russian military servicemen are setting up two posts near the border in order to monitor possible clashes between Kurdish militias and the Turkish military.

This comes amid increasing US military activity along the Syrian-Turkish border. According to Kurdish sources in northeastern Syria, US troops have been patrolling the Kurdish-held areas bordering Turkey. Thus, US troops are a buffer force that should prevent Ankara from combating Kurdish militias in Syria.

The YPG which is a branch of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and a core of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), is described by Turkey as a terrorist group.

In the province of Raqqah, the SDF is very close to capturing the whole area of the town of Tabqah from ISIS. When Tabqah is secured, the SDF, supported by the US-led coalition’s air power, artillery, and military advisors, will focus on securing the Tabqa dam and will continue attempts to further isolate Raqqah.

Earlier this week, western backed militant groups captured Al-Humaymah southwest of Deir Ezzor. This operation was part of the broader effort aimed at expanding control along the Syrian-Iraqi border.

With the collapsing of ISIS defenses in central Syria and in the area of the Iraqi city of Mosul, various factions involved in the Syrian conflict have increased efforts aimed at gaining control of as many important areas as possible.

While there is little doubt that the SDF, with significant US military assistance, will be able to seize Raqqah one day, the Deir Ezzor countryside and areas along the Syrian-Iraqi border will remain contested between US-backed forces and the Syrian government.

Fighting between government troops and ISIS terrorists continued near the Talilah crossroad east of Palmyra. ISIS has been conducting harassment operations against the Syrian Arab Army in the area in order to prevent a possible government advance along the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor road.

Government forces, led by the Republican Guard, continued military operations against Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and its allies in the district of Qaboun in eastern Damascus. Government troops there are seeking to divide the pocket into two separated parts. This will be a major move, if accomplished, on the way to a full liberation of the area from militants.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Russian Military going into YPG controled areas ? ? ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 02, 2017, 12:31:55 pm

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Forecasting Escalation Scenario Of Conflict In Syria
Video first released in 2016 .  .  .
How accurate . . .



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Govt New Large Offensive ? ? ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 08, 2017, 05:47:33 pm

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Syrian War Report – May 8, 2017:
Govt Forces Prepare For Large Operation In Desert Syria


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - White Helmets - al-Qaeda
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 09, 2017, 03:43:30 am
Activist Post
al-Qaeda Leader Praises White Helmets As “Hidden Soldiers Of The Revolution”
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/05/al-qaeda-leader-praises-white-helmets-as-hidden-soldiers-of-the-revolution.html

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By Brandon Turbeville

As hard as the Western corporate media works to employ propaganda techniques and tragic narratives with which to convince their respective populations that the terrorists funded by Western governments fight against the Syrian government are actually democracy-loving freedom fighters and selfless activists, more and more revelations come to light showing the true nature of heavily hyped groups like the White Helmets.

Indeed, it seems that, every week, another piece of evidence emerges revealing the White Helmets to be nothing more than a wing of al-Qaeda/al-Nusra designed to produce clever propaganda videos to tear at the usually hardened heartstrings of unsuspecting Americans. After having been exposed for housing themselves in the same building as Nusra/Qaeda, carrying weapons (also see Vanessa Beeley’s article here), using dangerous and erratic rescue and emergency techniques, proudly proclaiming support for terrorists and the desire to see Syrian military personnel killed, the White Helmets went on to sign documents and proclamations in support of Nusra in its effort to prevent civilians from access to drinking water.

Now, a little-known video made by the leader of Tahrir al-Sham (al-Qaeda in Syria), Abu Jaber, on March 16, 2017, is making the rounds of social media, showing Jaber praising the White Helmets as the “hidden soldiers of the revolution” and thanking them for what they do.

“Second, a message of thanks and gratitude to the hidden soldiers of our revolution,” Jaber said. “On top of the list are the parents of the martyrs and the men of the White Helmets.”



    On March 16 the leader of HTS (Al-Qaeda in #Syria) Abu Jaber thanked the #WhiteHelmets & called them the “hidden soldiers of the revolution” pic.twitter.com/1ac8M8xb5d

    — Walid (@walid970721) March 20, 2017




The question then becomes, “If the White Helmets are so unbiased, why does Tahrir al-Sham consider them to be heroes of the ‘revolution?’” Certainly, al-Qaeda would not consider any organization who assists civilians instead of solely the bearded soldiers of God as heroes of their movement. The answer, of course, is simple. The White Helmets are nothing more than a propaganda wing of al-Qaeda itself, funded by Western governments and NGOs for the purpose of creating false narratives and shock videos designed to manipulate the Western public.

If there was any doubt about the true nature of the White Helmets, I suggest reading my previous articles on the group as well as Vanessa Beeley’s excellent work on the same topic.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Trump Should Recognize Golan Heights As Israeli Land
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 09, 2017, 05:50:23 am

Israeli Intelligence Minister: Trump Should Recognize Golan Heights As Indivisible Part of Israel
https://www.davidicke.com/category/275/political-manipulation

‘The Trump administration should formally recognize the Golan Heights as sovereign Israeli territory, especially in light of the ongoing war in Syria, Transportation and Intelligence Minister Israel Katz said Sunday.

Katz, who made his remarks at the Jerusalem Post Annual Conference in New York, proposed a five-point memorandum between Israel and the U.S. on the Syrian civil war and its impact on the Jewish state’s security.

Apart from recognizing the Golan Heights as an indivisible part of Israel, Katz called for both countries to adopt a policy opposing any permanent Iranian military presence in Syria and Lebanon. In addition, Katz’s proposal would see further sanctions imposed on Iran if it does not stop supporting terror organizations in the area, such as Hezbollah. Hezbollah itself would also be subject to heavy sanctions according to Katz’s plan.

“There will not be stability in the region until Iran is pushed back, and weapons transfers are stopped,” the minister said.’
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Tanks on Border
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 10, 2017, 03:50:17 am
AMN
In pictures: Syrian drones spot hundreds of US, Jordanian armored vehicles at the border
By Chris Tomson
9 May2017
https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/pictures-syrian-drones-spot-hundreds-us-jordanian-armored-vehicles-border/

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DAMASCUS, SYRIA (0:00 A.M.) – The US and Jordanian militaries may be prepping a massive invasion of Syria, intelligence reports gathered from surveillance drones suggest.

Damascus is reportedly on high alert after some 400 American and Jordanian military vehicles were located at a Jordanian military base near the Syrian desert border earlier today.

More pictures of the drone surveillance here:

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The foreign convoys may launch an incursion to aid allied Free Syrian Army (FSA) proxies based around the Al-Tanf border crossing.

In 2017 alone, FSA satellite forces have entered Sweida and Deir Ezzor while also coming dangerously near Palmyra and Damascus, areas under Syrian Arab Army (SAA) control.

In response to the looming invasion, the SAA has begun a large-scale offensive along the Damascus-Baghdad highway in a bid to dislodge FSA rebels from the Al-Tanf border crossing are link up with friendly Iraqi border guards.

The photos validate previous reports by an Al-Masdar News military source suggesting a major Jordanian and US buildup at the Syrian border.


UPDATE: The military base is located east of Az-Zarqa, 43 km away from the Syrian border. The tanks are supposedly Jordanian M60 types.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Russian Safe Zones - To FreeUp Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 10, 2017, 03:55:39 am
ActivistPost
Brandon Turbville
9 May 2017
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/05/syrias-de-escalation-zones-explained.html
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At midnight, May 5, a series of four “de-escalation zones” were implemented across Syria. According to the agreement, no warplanes will be allowed to fly missions in territories included in the designated safe zones, including Syrian, Russian, and American warplanes.

The largest safe zone is comprised of Idlib province as well as adjoining districts of Latakia, Aleppo, and Hama, an area that contains around 1 million people. Other “safe zones” are located in the northern part of Homs, East Ghouta, Daraa, and Quneitra. The “safe zones” are slated to exist for six months, with the options of extending them after that time.

Journalist and analyst with The Rabbit Hole, Sarah Abed, wrote,

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The memorandum, which comes into effect on May 5, envisages the cessation of hostilities between the sides, conditions for returning refugees, the restoration of destroyed urban infrastructure and the access of humanitarian organizations. Moreover, the checkpoints to control the movement of civilians and the ceasefire regime will be created along the de-escalation zone borders.

Understandably, many observers are wondering just what is taking place in Syria since the United States has long argued for “safe zones” and “no-fly zones” in Syria since very early on in the conflict. Now, “safe zones” are being established in Syria at the behest of Russia, with the cooperation of Iran and Syria. So what exactly is happening?


Russian Zones Different From American Zones

On one hand, Russia’s “de-escalation zones” are essentially the same thing as “safe zones” and “no-fly zones.” For instance, they are geographic areas in which no aerial assaults will be allowed and no military flights are to take place. However, there is a notable difference between the zones envisioned by the U.S. and the zones being implemented by Russia.

First, the Syrian government has agreed to the Russian plan. Second, the U.S. plan for “safe zones” and “no-fly zones” was aimed at the destruction of the Syrian military and the ultimate invasion of Syria by Western NATO forces. It is also notable that the United States was not a party to the negotiation of the zones nor is it allowed to conduct military bombing missions within the zones. In a sense, it is a “no-fly zone” against the United States as well as against other powers.

That being said, the United States does not tend to fly over many of the areas encompassed by the new “de-escalation zone” plan, although it has done so in some isolated instances in the past. These airspaces are protected by Syrian SAM systems as well as Russian forces. The U.S. does fly over Idlib, however, and the Israelis tend to fly anywhere they wish, always confident that they can fight to the last American if Syria responds.

These “de-escalation zones” also have an expiration date of six months.


Zones Are A Plan To Free Up Syrian Military

One other notable difference in the plans set forward by the Russians versus the American version is the apparent purpose of the zones. It appears that the real reason for the establishment of the “de-escalation zones” is an attempt to allow the SAA to free up forces that can then be deployed to eastern and southern Syria so that they can eliminate terrorist activity in these areas, prevent Israeli and Jordanian troops from partitioning the southern and southwestern parts of Syria, and prevent ISIS and the U.S. from establishing their own partition in the eastern part. It is also an attempt to speed up the Syrian military’s progress in the race for Raqqa.

More importantly, the zones appear to be an attempt to free up Syrian military personnel to fight and retake Deir ez-Zour. If the Syrian military can once again reconnect Deir ez-Zour to the Tabqa airbase, which would allow for a more effective staging ground for military operations in the East and around the city. It would essentially alleviate the pressure consistently put on Deir ez-Zour for three years by the United States and its proxy army of terrorists. It would then allow for a stronger staging ground for the SAA to push west.

Understandably, many observers are wondering just what is taking place in Syria since the United States has long argued for “safe zones” and “no-fly zones” in Syria since very early on in the conflict. Now, “safe zones” are being established in Syria at the behest of Russia, with the cooperation of Iran and Syria. So what exactly is happening?


Russian Zones Different From American Zones

On one hand, Russia’s “de-escalation zones” are essentially the same thing as “safe zones” and “no-fly zones.” For instance, they are geographic areas in which no aerial assaults will be allowed and no military flights are to take place. However, there is a notable difference between the zones envisioned by the U.S. and the zones being implemented by Russia.

First, the Syrian government has agreed to the Russian plan. Second, the U.S. plan for “safe zones” and “no-fly zones” was aimed at the destruction of the Syrian military and the ultimate invasion of Syria by Western NATO forces. It is also notable that the United States was not a party to the negotiation of the zones nor is it allowed to conduct military bombing missions within the zones. In a sense, it is a “no-fly zone” against the United States as well as against other powers.

That being said, the United States does not tend to fly over many of the areas encompassed by the new “de-escalation zone” plan, although it has done so in some isolated instances in the past. These airspaces are protected by Syrian SAM systems as well as Russian forces. The U.S. does fly over Idlib, however, and the Israelis tend to fly anywhere they wish, always confident that they can fight to the last American if Syria responds.

These “de-escalation zones” also have an expiration date of six months.


Zones Are A Plan To Free Up Syrian Military

One other notable difference in the plans set forward by the Russians versus the American version is the apparent purpose of the zones. It appears that the real reason for the establishment of the “de-escalation zones” is an attempt to allow the SAA to free up forces that can then be deployed to eastern and southern Syria so that they can eliminate terrorist activity in these areas, prevent Israeli and Jordanian troops from partitioning the southern and southwestern parts of Syria, and prevent ISIS and the U.S. from establishing their own partition in the eastern part. It is also an attempt to speed up the Syrian military’s progress in the race for Raqqa.

More importantly, the zones appear to be an attempt to free up Syrian military personnel to fight and retake Deir ez-Zour. If the Syrian military can once again reconnect Deir ez-Zour to the Tabqa airbase, which would allow for a more effective staging ground for military operations in the East and around the city. It would essentially alleviate the pressure consistently put on Deir ez-Zour for three years by the United States and its proxy army of terrorists. It would then allow for a stronger staging ground for the SAA to push west.

The Russian Defense Ministry has already announced that Russia will participate in the military operation to lift the siege of Deir ez-Zour. As al-Masdar News reports,

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    The Russian military will participate in the Syrian Arab Army’s (SAA) upcoming offensive to lift the two year long siege on the Deir Ezzor Governorate, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced today.

    The Russian Air Force will likely provide the primary air cover to the Syrian Arab Army in east Homs, while their military advisers embed with the latter.

    This announcement from the Russian Ministry of Defense comes just hours after the Syrian Arab Army’s Tiger Forces arrived in the Palmyra countryside to begin this upcoming operation.

    The military operation’s first target will be the desert town of ‘Arak, which is located along the Sukhnah-Palmyra Road in eastern Homs.

The Syrian military push east is an urgent necessity in order to foil the U.S./NATO/ Israeli plan to break up Syria and partition it as a result of foreign or terrorist forces firmly planted in specific regions backed by Western, Arabian, and Israeli funds and arms.

In addition, as Syrian analyst Afraa Dagher stated in an interview with Adam Garrie of The Duran, oil is also a major consideration both for the Western imperial powers and the Syrian/Russian alliance. She said, “The USA along with Jordan and Israel, worked hard to control the southern border of Syria and created mutual military rooms in order to restrain Syria’s anti-terrorist efforts. The US goal is to advance towards Deir AlZour which is rich in oil, and which is important for Qatar to supply its oil to Europe across the Syrian Land , which will impact the importance Russian oil for Europe.”

Kevork Almassian of Syriana Analysis has released a video describing a similar analysis to my own, i.e. that the “de-escalation zones” are merely an attempt to free up Syrian forces, as a result of the ceasefire, to move east and push the U.S./Israeli/Jordanian/Terrorist forces back out of Syria before they can solidify their positions.


Enforcement Mechanism

Despite the apparent strategic nature of the “de-escalation zones,” there has been no discussion as to how the prohibition against flight and bombing over these areas will be enforced. Will violating planes be shot down? Will the agreement fall apart if one party violates this aspect?

If the planes will be shot down, the next question is what, exactly, will happen if the United States violates the no-bombing provision? What will happen when the Israelis inevitably test the boundaries of the world’s patience? If Russia and Syria do intend to enforce the zones with shoot-down orders, will a shoot down of an American or Israeli plane initiate the beginning of World War Three?

In the meantime, relative calm has ensued as a result of the ceasefire and implementation of the “de-escalation zones,” possibly signaling that the plan is working. However, the United States and its allies are not likely to sit idly by as their proxies are annihilated and other straggling terrorist organizations wither on the vine.

Only time will tell whether or not the Russian/Syrian strategy will ultimately lead to an end to the war and an actual deconfliction or whether the United States and its imperialist allies will push forcefully into a heightened state of conflict with another world nuclear superpower. We are obviously hoping for the former.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Mosul - Final Phase - SouthFront
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 10, 2017, 06:05:28 am
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South Front
Mosul Battle Report – May 9, 2017: Operation Approaching Its Final Phase

Published on May 8, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gGMUSr76Ys

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - White Helmets are Al-Qaeda
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 11, 2017, 04:17:33 am
David Icke
Al-Qaeda Leader Praises Syria White Helmets as 'Hidden Soldiers of the Revolution'
https://www.davidicke.com/article/411621/al-qaeda-leader-praises-syria-white-helmets-hidden-soldiers-revolution
By Andrew Cheetham
11 May 2017

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‘As hard as the Western corporate media works to employ propaganda techniques and tragic narratives with which to convince their respective populations that the terrorists funded by Western governments fight against the Syrian government are actually democracy-loving freedom fighters and selfless activists, more and more revelations come to light showing the true nature of heavily hyped groups like the White Helmets.

Indeed, it seems that, every week, another piece of evidence emerges revealing the White Helmets to be nothing more than a wing of al-Qaeda/al-Nusra designed to produce clever propaganda videos to tear at the usually hardened heartstrings of unsuspecting Americans. After having been exposed for housing themselves in the same building as Nusra/Qaeda, carrying weapons (also see Vanessa Beeley’s article here), using dangerous and erratic rescue and emergency techniques, proudly proclaiming support for terrorists and the desire to see Syrian military personnel killed, the White Helmets went on to sign documents and proclamations in support of Nusra in its effort to prevent civilians from access to drinking water.

Now, a little-known video made by the leader of Tahrir al-Sham (al-Qaeda in Syria), Abu Jaber, on March 16, 2017, is making the rounds of social media, showing Jaber praising the White Helmets as the “hidden soldiers of the revolution” and thanking them for what they do.’

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Trump - New Plan - Arm Kurdish Forces
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 11, 2017, 08:45:13 am
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South Front

Syrian War Report – May 10, 2017: Trump Administration Approves New Plan To Arm Kurdish Forces

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US soldiers entered Syria from Jordan to train terrorists
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 11, 2017, 03:50:26 pm

Wow leaked photos show #US soldiers entered southern #Syria from Jordan to train terrorists. I reported this invasion last month!
--  PartisanGirl

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - De-Escalation Zones
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 12, 2017, 05:12:05 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - De-Escalation Zones
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 12, 2017, 05:14:22 am
David Icke
Syria’s De-Escalation Zones Explained
https://www.davidicke.com/article/411702/syrias-de-escalation-zones-explained

‘At midnight, May 5, a series of four “de-escalation zones” were implemented across Syria. According to the agreement, no warplanes will be allowed to fly missions in territories included in the designated safe zones, including Syrian, Russian, and American warplanes.

The largest safe zone is comprised of Idlib province as well as adjoining districts of Latakia, Aleppo, and Hama, an area that contains around 1 million people. Other “safe zones” are located in the northern part of Homs, East Ghouta, Daraa, and Quneitra. The “safe zones” are slated to exist for six months, with the options of extending them after that time.


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https://www.davidicke.com/article/411702/syrias-de-escalation-zones-explained
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - NO the 'New' CNN Video of Chem Attack is Propaganda
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 12, 2017, 05:18:44 am
No, the 'New' CNN Video of the Chemical Incident Does Not Prove that the Syrian Government Did It
Andrew Cheetham
12 May 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/411704/no-new-cnn-video-chemical-incident-not-prove-syrian-government
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‘I agree that the footage is harrowing. However none of it is new and none of it proves that the Syrian government was the perpetrator of a nerve agent attack.

As such, this article merely falls into the category of propaganda.

The kindest alternative description of the article is that it might instead be yet another example of bad reporting that mixes ill-considered assumptions with facts that may or may not be relevant to its conclusions.

This kind of reporting could actually be encouraging such attacks.

If there was a false flag nerve agent attack, this tells the perpetrators that when they engage in the murder of children they can build a stronger false case against the Syrian government and thereby increase their chances of creating political pressure on the US Government to intervene militarily on their behalf.

If people are sickened by the inhumanity of these events, they might want to consider alternative explanations of who might be responsible for the immoralities we are seeing.’
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Syria’s Grand Mufti - Religion, Faith, And Humanity
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 12, 2017, 05:49:39 am
Shock Horror, Syria’s Grand Mufti is not the Wahhabi Wack Job as portrayed constantly in the mainstream narrative.

Activist Post
n The Midst Of Crisis, Syria’s Grand Mufti Has This To Say On Religion, Faith, And Humanity
11 May 2017
By Brandon Turbeville
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/05/in-the-midst-of-crisis-syrias-grand-mufti-has-this-to-say-on-religion-faith-and-humanity.html

While the mainstream corporate press continues to paint the Syrian crisis as a civil war between religious denominations (since it works right along with the idiotic narrative painted of the Middle East peddled in the West for decades), Syrians have proven MSM outlets wrong every day for the last six years. That is, if anyone bothers to speak to them about what is happening in their country and their own views on the situation.

Many Americans would particularly be interested to learn how Syria was a multi-ethnic multi-religious state without civil war and religious warfare prior to America’s rebels. Indeed, while America’s religious leaders are consistently focused on promoting a military mindset and war across the world, Syria’s religious leaders are doing the opposite, focusing on inter-faith dialogue, peace, and unity.

In fact, a man who has been leading the efforts for peace in Syria, the Grand Mufti himself, has been repeatedly maligned in the Western press as someone who is complicit in war crimes and even being personally involved in the handpicking torture victims. These narratives have repeatedly fallen apart, since they are nothing more than propaganda. The Grand Mufti has often angered Western journalists and Western politicians by refusing to play along with their idiotic narratives that Assad is murdering his own people and engaging in wanton atrocities and refusing to engage in primitive religious nitpicking and division.

However, despite the negative press Sheikh Ahmad Bahreddin Hassoun has received in the West, he continues to remain stalwart in the face of Western media pressure. He also continues to push for understanding and dialogue between the various faiths as well as the denominations within his own.

Many journalists and activists have traveled to Syria and have had the opportunity to meet with the Grand Mufti. In my own personal interviews and discussions with these individuals, I have consistently been told of the kindness and compassion of Sheikh Hassoun as well as his extraordinary wisdom when it comes to issue of spirituality, religion, and humanity in general.

Recently, speaking to journalist Vanessa Beeley in Damascus, Sheikh Hassoun had this to say about religion and human identity.


    In the UK Theresa May made dangerous statement, when asked if she regrets the Balfour Treaty. If she had just said no, it would have been better. But she said, that the Balfour treaty is a religious promise, we are very proud of it. That she said that, is very dangerous. She put herself in the place of God, making such promises..and that is not true. God is in our heart, He does not have a particular place, not in Saudi Arabia, not in Palestine..just in our hearts.

    As a human being in any land on earth, the land is my mother, my hand is from the sand, my soul from God, from heaven, our souls have the same source, our bodies are from the same source so why would God force us to leave one land because one land is of God and another is not?

    I criticise Saudi Arabia because they forbid Jews and Christians to go to Saudi Arabia. It is Abraham’s land not Saudi land, Abraham built the Kaaba, we all believe in Abraham. Saudi Arabia is only a political authority disguised as a religious authority.

    When I am asked if I am the Mufti for all Muslims, I say, no, I am just the Mufti of Syria, I have responsibility for the Jews, the Christians, for all the people in Syria. That is why its important to think globally.

    All people grow old, but love never grows old. As love grows older, it grows stronger. Love is the soul of belief, I dont love those I cannot believe in. Thank God, that God is not Jewish, Christian or Muslim..God is for all people. That is why I should not be for one particular faith, you will not find me in the mosque or in the church.

    God is in the hearts of children. The heart, when it beats has energy, this energy is God.

    A lot of people have a lot of medicine, a lot of food..but their hearts will still stop because God decided to let it go. A person can replace his heart, but it will still die,

    because God says “stop”. It is God who started the heart in the beginning. A lot of young people ask me how the heart stops. I ask them how the first beat happened. Only the one who started the first beat can stop it in the end.

    The true Christian, Jew and Muslim are those who live in our hearts…


Hassoun’s philosophy is thus markedly different from the philosophy Western media outlets accuse Syrian religious leaders of espousing. It is also markedly different from the warlike rage machines of religions being peddled in places like Saudi Arabia, the United States, and Israel. If the United States and its own religious contingents truly wanted to see an end to conflict, they would allow the peaceful to live in peace and take Sheikh Hassoun’s words to heart.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - SouthFront - Syria Renews Op Against ISIS Eastern Allepo
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 12, 2017, 06:23:34 am
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South Front
Syrian War Report – May 11, 2017: Syrian Army Renews Operation Against ISIS In Eastern Aleppo

On May 10th, the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces fully liberated the important town of Tabqah and the Tabqah dam from ISIS terrorists in the province of Raqqah. The town of Tabqah is located within 40 km of the ISIS self-proclaimed capital of Raqqah. US-led coalition aviation and US special forces assisted the Syrian rebels in the Tabqa campaign.

Meanwhile, the SDF resumed their anti-ISIS operations north of Raqqah, capturing the villages of al-Jalai and Mayselum that had been held by ISIS.

Operation Inherent Resolve spokesman Col. John Dorrian revealed what kind of arms the United States would supply to Kurdish forces (a core of the SDF) when he told reporters, “…..what we are talking about here is ammunition, small arms, heavy machine guns, and mortars….”

Earlier this week, the Pentagon announced that US President Donald Trump had approved a plan to directly arm Kurdish forces operating in Syria.

Government forces, led by the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces, resumed anti-ISIS operations in the eastern Aleppo countryside, liberating the village of Al-Mahdoum and advancing further against ISIS near the Jirah Military Airport.

Russian Aerospace Forces supported the SAA advance by bombing ISIS gatherings and vehicles in the area between the Al-Jirah Military Airport and the town of Maskana.

Pro-ISIS sources claimed that ISIS members had destroyed a 23mm gun with an ATGM in the village of Kharaj Daham and a T-72 battle tank and BMP-1 vehicle in the village of Jarrah Saghir.

A number of Syrian soldiers were allegedly killed or wounded in the village of Atshana as a result of 2 VBIED attacks on SAA troops there.

ISIS also damaged an SAA T-72 battle tank in the village of Ma’moura after targeting it with an armed drone.

Russia has sent some 21 Soviet-made M-30 howitzers [122 mm] to Syria government forces, Fox News reported citing US officials. The artillery pieces arrived via cargo ship in the Syrian port city of Tartus in the past few days, according to the article.

The media outlet also speculated that Russia is sending more missiles for the advanced S-400 air defense system. The step is allegedly aimed at increasing the Russian air defense capabilities in Syria.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Terrorist Confesses - Taking Part In Staged Chemical Weapon
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 03:32:11 am
Activist Post

Terrorist Confesses To Taking Part In Staged Chemical Weapons Attacks In Syria, Western Media Silent
Brandon Turbeville
May 15, 2017
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/05/terrorist-confesses-taking-part-staged-chemical-weapons-attacks-syria-western-media-silent.html

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Before the dust settled on Khan Skeykhoun, the United States had used the alleged chemical attack that took place there as the justification for a launch of 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at the al-Sha’aryat airbase in Syria. Even as the missiles were heading toward their target, it was clear that something was not right with the official U.S. government story regarding the incident. In fact, when considering all the evidence, it was clear that the Syrian military had nothing to do with the actual attack. Even more so, there were even questions regarding whether or not the attack actually took place.

After the bombings, as more and more evidence came to light, it became so obvious that the Syrian government had nothing to do with the attacks that any further reference to Khan Sheykhoun should now conjure up memories of an American empire looking for any reason to launch attacks against Syria, so much so that it is ready to slaughter children under the guise of seeking revenge for the killing of children.

Now, however, there is little doubt left as to whether or not the Syrian government was involved in the attack since one of the West’s proxy terrorists recently confessed to taking part in the staging of the attack to be blamed on the Syrian government.

According to a report by Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA),

    Terrorist, Walid Hendi confessed to taking part in fabricating videos and photos for a Turkish TV channel while working with the so-called “White Helmets” that depict neighborhoods and areas in Aleppo being attacked with chemical weapons in order to blame the Syrian Arab Army.

    In confessions broadcast by the Syrian TV on Saturday evening, al-Hendi said that he joined the “White Helmets” three years ago in return for receiving funds from the so-called “local council” and financers from Arab Gulf countries. Hendi said that they were told that there will be chemical attacks, and they were given protective clothing and they staged a fake chemical attack that was filmed by a Turkish channel, adding that they were filmed by two people called Ibrhaim al-Haj and Mohammad al-Sayyed as they sounded sirens and brought stretchers to transport supposedly injured people, with the intent of posting these videos online and accusing the Syrian Arab Army of carrying out a chemical attack.

    The terrorist also confessed to taking part in fabricating videos and photos depicting alleged attacks several times.


SANA then reports on the confession of a second terrorist, Imad Abdeljawad. The report reads,

    In turn, terrorist, Imad Abdeljawad said in similar confessions that terrorists in Aleppo possessed toxic chemicals and that he took part in transporting them.

    Abdeljawad said that he was asked to transport what were claimed to be cleaning agents from al-Sukkari neighborhood to al-Ameriya neighborhood to cover up the fact that they were actually transporting dangerous chemicals, adding that after unloading materials from two cars and starting with the third, they wanted to know what materials they were transporting because their smells were agitating, particularly since he suffered asthma.

    He went on to say that he saw people in silvery clothing, protective masks, and long boots transporting the materials to a basement, and they looked through windows and saw them opening barrels and pouring a liquid from them into cylinders, and when the man in charge of the terrorists noticed that Abdeljawad and his cohorts were watching he expelled them and prevented them from bearing arms.

    Back in January, army engineering units uncovered, while combing the Old City neighborhoods in Aleppo, an amount of chemical materials of Saudi origin left behind by terrorists, which included sulfur, chlorine, and other materials.

    This revelation is particularly important give the possibility for another false flag attack to be repeated in Syria and blamed on the Syrian government by a similar method. In early May, it was reported that the White Helmets were recently moved into Ariha, a town located in Idlib province, accompanied by a number of civilians including children.

    According to FARS News, local sources have reported that the White Helmets in Idlib are paid around $1,500 to $2,000 per clip of the group “pulling children from rubble.” These sources also claim that the White Helmets are working closely with Turkey in the illicit human organs trade.

    In addition, independent Lebanese geopolitical media analyst, Sarah Abdallah, reported that the bodies of 23 children had been stolen from a hospital in Idlib, an act that she believes might also portend a White Helmets false flag attack in the near future. Abdallah’s information has proven accurate time and time again so her revelations are particularly concerning.


The White Helmets have long been exposed for being nothing more than al-Qaeda’s propaganda outfit, most recently having signed a document as a statement of solidarity with al-Qaeda fighters in Barada, Damascus, threatening to withhold drinking water from Syrian civilians unless the Syrian military ending all military operations there.

If there was any doubt about the true nature of the White Helmets, I suggest reading my previous articles on the group as well as Vanessa Beeley’s excellent work on the same topic.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - SouthFront - Govt Forces Make Large Gains - Advance !
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 03:46:28 am

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South Front
Syrian War Report – May 11, 2017: Syrian Army Renews Operation Against ISIS In Eastern Aleppo

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-15-2017-govt-forces-make-large-gains-in-aleppo-and-damascus/

Pro-government forces, led by the Syrian Army Tiger Forces, have made significant progress against ISIS in the province of Aleppo. Last weekend, government troops liberated the Jirah Military Airbase after few days of clashes with ISIS terrorists. ISIS attempted to counter attack at the military airbase and near Jirah Saghir village but failed to achieve its goals. The Syrian Army reportedly lost a T-55 battle tank, a BMP-1 armoured vehicle and a technical armed with a 23mm gun in these clashes.

The military airbase was the last major ISIS stronghold on the way to the important ISIS-held town of Maskaneh that will likely become the next target of the government advance in the province of Aleppo. Advancing through Maskaneh, government troops would reach an area controlled by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in the Tabqah countryside in the province of Raqqah. This will also allow to secure a large chunk of the Ithriyah-Aleppo road.

Meanwhile, ISIS deployed reinforcements in the area between the Jirah Military Airbase and near Maskanah. Thus, it became clear that the terrorist group was going to defend this important town seriously.

The Syrian Army and the National Defense Forces liberated a large area in eastern Damascus from militant groups after a successful military operation in Qaboun and reaching a withdrawal agreement with militants and their families in Thishreen.

A militant infighting continued in Eastern Ghouta where the Al-Rahman Corps and Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) launched a joint attack on positions of Jaish al-Islam in the Misraba area. This was a continuation of tensions appeared among militant groups after they failed to retake the industrial area south of Qaboun from government forces.

The SDF advanced further against ISIS terrorists in the province of Raqqah, capturing the villages of Atshana, al-Malali, Abu Khabret al-Rachid, Mazrat al-Ansar, Khirbat al-Khan and reaching an abadoned military base north of the ISIS self-proclaimed capital. Thus, SDF units deployed in about 4 km from the entrance to the city. If the base is captured, it will be a start of clashes in the vicinity of Raqqah and will mark a preparation for the first phase of its storm.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Blabbermouth Trump blurts out classified intel to Lavrov
Post by: Q on May 16, 2017, 07:23:37 am
Imagine my surprise..Trump has been blabbing classified intel.

This is why the intel community didn't want to tell Trump anything remotely sensitive. "He has no filter" "In one ear and out his mouth" is how an official described Trump. He is a vain braggart and must be a complete nightmare for professionals to deal with.

We can only hope that Trump's clearance is set at the minimum possible, while still giving him some info which is not public to keep him happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/15/donald-trump-russia-classified-information-impact-allies

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Blabbermouth Trump blurts out classified intel to Lavrov
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 07:44:58 am
Imagine my surprise..Trump has been blabbing classified intel.

This is why the intel community didn't want to tell Trump anything remotely sensitive. "He has no filter" "In one ear and out his mouth" is how an official described Trump. He is a vain braggart and must be a complete nightmare for professionals to deal with.

We can only hope that Trump's clearance is set at the minimum possible, while still giving him some info which is not public to keep him happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/15/donald-trump-russia-classified-information-impact-allies

While I am not a fan of Donald Trump, this Democrat obsession with Trump & Russia has to date lacked any proof.

I skimmed that article, where is the proof ?
Isn’t it all speculation ?
Did I miss something in my speed read ?

What I am trying to avoid is the controlled opposition themes, because they are usually a distraction from the real stories.

Correct me if I'm wrong of course  8)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Blabbermouth Trump blurts out classified intel to Lavrov
Post by: Q on May 16, 2017, 08:11:14 am
While I am not a fan of Donald Trump, this Democrat obsession with Trump & Russia has to date lacked any proof.

I skimmed that article, where is the proof ?
Isn’t it all speculation ?
Did I miss something in my speed read ?

What I am trying to avoid is the controlled opposition themes, because they are usually a distraction from the real stories.

Correct me if I'm wrong of course  8)

Yes, it's fair to say that you missed the whole story lol. This is separate to Russiagate.

It is based on a WaPo report, citing current and former officials, that Trump divulged classified info during Lavrov's visit to the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/

Embedded in the guardian article is Mcmasters' response, which is a non-denial denial. And now Trump has admitted it but says he had 'every right to do so'. That is a technicality, as the el presidente has broad authority to declassify and disseminate material, but no less of an embarrassing blabbing blurt of classified intel which "had not even been shared with allies".

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/16/donald-trump-russia-shared-information
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Blabbermouth Trump blurts out classified intel to Lavrov
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 08:22:51 am
This is separate to Russiagate.

It is based on a WaPo report, citing current and former officials, that Trump divulged classified info during Lavrov's visit to the US.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/

Embedded in the guardian article is Mcmasters' response, which is a non-denial denial. And now Trump has admitted it but says he had 'every right to do so'. That is a technicality, as the el presidente has broad authority to declassify and disseminate material, but no less of an embarrassing blabbing blurt of classified intel which "had not even been shared with allies".

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/16/donald-trump-russia-shared-information


Ah . . so I was wrong !
Thanks, because with all the BS flying about I avoid anything remotely partisan - but it can lead to Big Mistakes on my part ! ! !

What are they frightened he revealed ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Syrian Army rapidly advancing on UK/US Special Forces
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 01:33:27 pm
RT
Syrian Army rapidly advancing on UK/US Special Forces base – reports
https://www.rt.com/uk/388508-sas-base-syrian-army/

(https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.05/original/591abb82c461884d2f8b45df.jpg)

Syrian government forces accompanied by Iranian and Hezbollah fighters are within 15 miles (24km) of a joint US/UK Special Forces base, sparking fears of a confrontation.



READ MORE
https://www.rt.com/uk/388508-sas-base-syrian-army/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Blabbermouth Trump blurts out classified intel to Lavrov
Post by: Satyagraha on May 16, 2017, 04:06:20 pm

Ah . . so I was wrong !
Thanks, because with all the BS flying about I avoid anything remotely partisan - but it can lead to Big Mistakes on my part ! ! !

What are they frightened he revealed ?

They don't know exactly what he revealed, except that it came from a 'trusted ally' and that ally would not like to have the information shared with the Russkies. Then we discover (as the plot unfolds), that the trusted ally was Israel, and boy are they pissed...

Then, in a MASSIVE faux pas, Trump did NOT say that the Western Wall (which he'll visit when in Israel) was PART of Israel, and that sent some reporters into a fit of angst...

All the reporters for the MSM are in absolute panic mode thinking that Trump will somehow severely endanger us by spilling state secrets while on his trip to Saudi, Israel, Brussels and Rome. They are terrified that someone will find out our deepest darkest secrets... they don't know what the secrets are, but they're very worried. And they will publish those deep dark secrets the instant they find out from "unnamed sources". They remain sleazebags.

McMaster DID say that they hadn't briefed Trump on the really secret stuff... "methods and procedures" or something like that... and I took it to mean that they don't tell Trump anything they don't want to hand over to the Russians, or the Arabs, or the Pope.

So much drama. It's like The Apprentice in real life.
Hmmm... maybe that's his schtick; he's keeping everyone in fear mode.
Especially those working in the White House...

For Sean Spicer, it seems his days as press secretary are numbered (he didn't look happy yesterday), and perhaps the lovely Kimberly Guilfoile (sp?) will replace him. She was quoted in some publication as "considering" the job. I wonder if Spicer found out before he read it in the paper? "You're FIRED"... coming soon.

But wait - there's more... A bombshell report that KellyAnne Conway was dissing Trump (with mic and camera off) to Mika and Morning Joe, saying, "I feel like I have to shower" after representing Trump in an interview on their show. That was super-juicy gossip from Mika and Joe, those MSNBC presstitutes.

Every day a new episode.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Re :Blabbermouth Trump blurts out classified intel to Lavro
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 04:44:10 pm
Its like stepping through a look-glass mirror only to fall down a rabbit hole.

Why its almost as if a hidden hand wants to deep crispy fry the brain of anyone trying to simply be 'well informed'.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Syrian Army rapidly advancing on UK/US Special Forces
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 05:24:20 pm
Daily Telegraph
Syrian troops advancing towards US and British special forces
Josie Ensor Luna Safwan, Beirut
15 May 2017 • 3:31pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/15/syrian-troops-advancing-towards-us-british-special-forces/

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/08/08/105153843-special-forces-news-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqQgeqxSFoaMZSBPIAWNI8GSEpLDX-WiMruTlK1ihj_Xc.jpg)



Bashar al-Assad’s troops are on a collision course with Western special forces, after advancing towards their training base in eastern Syria over the weekend.

Pro-government soldiers are now within 15 miles of al-Tanf - a heavily fortified hub for American and British special forces training Syrian rebel groups, which are fighting Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) near the Iraqi border.

The assault is being led by Iranian forces, which are commanding Syrian troops and a number of Lebanese Hizbollah fighters with the help of Russian jets in the skies.

The Syrian army has been alarmed by two months of Free Syrian Army (FSA) advances against Isil that allowed the rebels to secure a large swathe of sparsely populated territory stretching from south east of Damascus all the way to the borders with Iraq and Jordan.

Syrian forces have in recent days moved tanks and surface-to-air missiles closer to the eastern frontline with the moderate FSA units in an apparent warning to the US-led coalition, which flies sorties against Isil in the area.

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/08/08/105153839-special-forces-news-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqUBKy7grlBl1JOceoJWqeUL8Rs3kOaK4E0bSkXcx9yCs.jpg)



“The Iranians are the ones promoting their movement towards al-Tanf, using the slogan Fighting The Grand Satan i.e. the US and the international coalition,” Mozahem al-Saloum, spokesman for the Free Syrian Army brigade at the base, told the Telegraph.

The area is strategically important for the government and its allies.

Capturing the road all the way to the Tanf base would re-establish the regime’s link with ally Iraq in the south.

The Damascus-Baghdad highway was a major weapons supply route for Iranian weapons into Syria until Isil seized large territory along the Iraqi-Syrian border.



READ MORE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/15/syrian-troops-advancing-towards-us-british-special-forces/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - S.A.S versus Hezbolah ? ? ? WTF
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 05:28:57 pm
S.A.S versus Hezbolah  ? ? ? WTF

Who wrote this script ?

(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/prettylittleliars/images/3/35/Alice_looking_glass.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150402231401)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - SouthFront - PMU Pushing To Border With Syria + Mosul
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 16, 2017, 05:34:39 pm

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South Front
Mosul Battle Report – May 16, 2017: PMU Pushing To Border With Syria

https://southfront.org/mosul-battle-report-may-16-2017-pmu-pushing-to-border-with-syria/

Iraqi security forces (ISF) have continued putting pressure on ISIS terrorists in the western part of the Iraqi city of Mosul. Recently, ISF troops have recaptured the 17 Tamouz district, the Al-Aurabi district, and further advanced against ISIS in the Al-Rafaee and Old Mosul areas. Some 49 ISIS terrorists were killed and 4 SVBIEDs destroyed during the clashes. According to the Iraqi military, ISIS controls only 9% of the city of Mosul.

The Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) have liberated a notable number of villages from ISIS terrorists in the area southwest of Mosul. PMU fighters took control of Khilo, Tal Qassab, Karkash, Sultan, Tal sheik, Kabar, and other vilalges near the town of Qayrawan.

Earlier this month, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, Deputy Commander of the PMU, announced that the PMU is seeing the Syrian-Iraqi border as a strategic objective of their military operations against ISIS. Al-Muhandis pointed out that forces of the PMU will enter the Syrian territory only in case of full coordination between the Syrian and Iraqi governments, and confirmed the existence of official channels with the Syrian government in case of the PMU need to do this.

Thus, the PMU advance in the Qayrawan area could be seen as a preparation to further push to the Syrian border that will likely be synchronized with the Syrian military’s efforts in it’s own territory.

On Monday, reports appeared that Syrian government forces started a military operation against US-backed militant groups in the eastern Sweida countryside. According to pro-government sources, the goal of the Syrian forces effort is the al-Tanaf border crossing.

Some sources indicate that the PMU and the Syrian military may privately coordinate efforts in order to prevent the progress of Western-backed militant groups along the Syrian border.

About 150 servicemen of the US and UK special operations forces entered southern Syria in order to support a ‘rebel advance’ against ISIS in the area.

On Monday, Jaysh Mughawyr Al-Thurah, backed by the US and UK special operation forces, was in about 90km east of the government-held city of Palmyra in the province of Homs. Militants were advancing in the northwestern direction along the Syrian-Iraqi border.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Terrorist Confesses - Staged Chemical Weapons
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 17, 2017, 03:02:53 am
Activist Post

Terrorist Confesses To Taking Part In Staged Chemical Weapons Attacks In Syria, Western Media Silent
May 16, 2017
Brandon Turbeville
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/05/terrorist-confesses-taking-part-staged-chemical-weapons-attacks-syria-western-media-silent.html

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Before the dust settled on Khan Skeykhoun, the United States had used the alleged chemical attack that took place there as the justification for a launch of 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at the al-Sha’aryat airbase in Syria. Even as the missiles were heading toward their target, it was clear that something was not right with the official U.S. government story regarding the incident. In fact, when considering all the evidence, it was clear that the Syrian military had nothing to do (http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/chemical-weapons-2017-what-just-happened-in-syria.html) with the actual attack. Even more so, there were even questions regarding whether or not the attack actually took place.

After the bombings, as more and more evidence came to light, it became so obvious that the Syrian government had nothing to do with the attacks that any further reference to Khan Sheykhoun should now conjure up memories of an American empire looking for any reason to launch attacks against Syria, so much so that it is ready to slaughter children under the guise of seeking revenge for the killing of children.

Now, however, there is little doubt left as to whether or not the Syrian government was involved in the attack since one of the West’s proxy terrorists recently confessed (http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/05/14/white-helmets-terrorist-whistleblower-exposes-staged-chemical-weapon-attacks/) to taking part in the staging of the attack to be blamed on the Syrian government.

According to a report by Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA (http://sana.sy/en/?p=105973)),

    Terrorist, Walid Hendi confessed to taking part in fabricating videos and photos for a Turkish TV channel while working with the so-called “White Helmets” that depict neighborhoods and areas in Aleppo being attacked with chemical weapons in order to blame the Syrian Arab Army.

    In confessions broadcast by the Syrian TV on Saturday evening, al-Hendi said that he joined the “White Helmets” three years ago in return for receiving funds from the so-called “local council” and financers from Arab Gulf countries. Hendi said that they were told that there will be chemical attacks, and they were given protective clothing and they staged a fake chemical attack that was filmed by a Turkish channel, adding that they were filmed by two people called Ibrhaim al-Haj and Mohammad al-Sayyed as they sounded sirens and brought stretchers to transport supposedly injured people, with the intent of posting these videos online and accusing the Syrian Arab Army of carrying out a chemical attack.

    The terrorist also confessed to taking part in fabricating videos and photos depicting alleged attacks several times.


SANA then reports on the confession of a [urlhttp://21stcenturywire.com/2017/05/14/white-helmets-terrorist-whistleblower-exposes-staged-chemical-weapon-attacks/]second terrorist,[/url] Imad Abdeljawad. The report reads,

    In turn, terrorist, Imad Abdeljawad said in similar confessions that terrorists in Aleppo possessed toxic chemicals and that he took part in transporting them.

    Abdeljawad said that he was asked to transport what were claimed to be cleaning agents from al-Sukkari neighborhood to al-Ameriya neighborhood to cover up the fact that they were actually transporting dangerous chemicals, adding that after unloading materials from two cars and starting with the third, they wanted to know what materials they were transporting because their smells were agitating, particularly since he suffered asthma.

    He went on to say that he saw people in silvery clothing, protective masks, and long boots transporting the materials to a basement, and they looked through windows and saw them opening barrels and pouring a liquid from them into cylinders, and when the man in charge of the terrorists noticed that Abdeljawad and his cohorts were watching he expelled them and prevented them from bearing arms.

    Back in January, army engineering units uncovered, while combing the Old City neighborhoods in Aleppo, an amount of chemical materials of Saudi origin left behind by terrorists, which included sulfur, chlorine, and other materials.

    This revelation is particularly important give the possibility for another false flag attack to be repeated in Syria and blamed on the Syrian government by a similar method. In early May, it was reported that the White Helmets were recently moved into Ariha, a town located in Idlib province, accompanied by a number of civilians including children.

    According to FARS News (http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960210001362), local sources have reported that the White Helmets in Idlib are paid around $1,500 to $2,000 per clip of the group “pulling children from rubble.” These sources also claim that the White Helmets are working closely with Turkey in the illicit human organs trade.

    In addition, independent Lebanese geopolitical media analyst, Sarah Abdallah (http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960210001362), reported that the bodies of 23 children had been stolen from a hospital in Idlib, an act that she believes might also portend a White Helmets false flag attack in the near future. Abdallah’s information has proven accurate time and time again so her revelations are particularly concerning.


The White Helmets have long been exposed for being nothing more than al-Qaeda’s propaganda outfit, most recently having signed a document as a statement of solidarity with al-Qaeda fighters in Barada, Damascus, threatening to withhold drinking water (http://www.activistpost.com/2017/01/white-helmets-solidarity-with-al-qaeda-hold-citizens-hostage-in-damascus-with-no-water.html) from Syrian civilians unless the Syrian military ending all military operations there.

If there was any doubt about the true nature of the White Helmets, I suggest reading my previous articles on the group as well as Vanessa Beeley’s excellent work on the same topic.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - SouthFront - Media Campaign Against Syrian Govt
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 05:40:18 am

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South Front
Syrian War Report – May 17, 2017: US-led Block Starts Media Campaign Against Syrian Government

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-17-2017-us-led-block-starts-media-campaign-against-syrian-government/

On Tuesday, the Syrian Army and the National Defense Forces (NDF) captured two small villages near the recently liberated Jirah Military Airbase in the province of Aleppo. The army and the NDF took control of Bayloneh and Jarrah Sagir located west of the airbase at the road heading to the town of Tabqah. Government forces liberated the Jirah Military Base from ISIS last weekend. Since then, they have been preparing for further advances against ISIS terrorists in the province.

Israeli Housing and Construction Minister Yoav Galant has called to assasinate Syrian President Bashar Assad. Galant made the statement speaking at a conference outside Jerusalem amid the recent US allegations that Syrian security forces were conducting mass executions and were burning the bodies of the “victims.” He called that Assad’s alleged actions are a “genocide” with “hundreds of thousands killed.”

Earlier this month, the US State Department accused the Syrian government of carrying out mass killings of thousands of prisoners and burning the bodies in a large crematorium outside Damascus. Stuart Jones, acting assistant secretary for the State Department Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, gave reporters some “declassified” satellite pictures allegedly showing a building in the prison complex that has been allegedly modified to support the crematorium. However, even some mainstream media outlets doubted that the provided imagery can confirm the state department allegations.

In April, US President Donald Trump ordered a missile strike against an Syrian air force airfield that US intelligence believes was used to carry out an April 4 chemical attack on the town of Khan Sheikhoun in the province of Idlib. However, the Trump administration has failed to provide any solid evidence that the Syrian military was behind the attack.

The new accusations against the Damascus government appeared amid a start of the new round of the peace talks in Geneva. According to reports, the government and the so-called opposition was set to discuss political transition, new constitution, elections and combating terrorism. Unfortunately, it is not clear how it’s possible to discuss combating terrorism with representatives of the opposition that directly cooperates with Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) and other terrorist groups as well as has al-Qaeda-style political program. Last weekend, President Assad said that “nothing substantial” would come out of the summit, which was “merely a meeting for the media”.

All real progress in decreasing violence in the country was achieved in the Astana format, that includes Syria, Iran, Russia and Turkey with some representatives of militant groups influenced by Ankara. The recent safe zones deal that is now works across the country is an example of this progress.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition’s airpower, artillery and military advisers, made more gains against ISIS in the Raqqah countryside. SDF units took control of the villages of al-Jaif, Dahr al-Abdul and Badr and advanced on Mazraat al-Andalus and Hamrat Buwaytiyah in an attempt to further isolate the ISIS self-proclaimed capital.

Meanwhile, the vicinity of Raqqah has been flooded with watter from the Tabqah dam recently captured by the SDF. The SDF argue that ISIS has used irrigation channels (linked with the dam) to do this and to blame the US-backed force for a humanitarian crisis in the city. ISIS reported that the SDF did this by itself in order to flood ISIS underground tunnels in the area. The terrorist group is going to use this network during the battle for Raqqah.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: poseidonlost on May 18, 2017, 12:40:51 pm
Sweet Jesus there's so much happening lately. Supposedly Trump just made an airstrike on Syrian forces. Can't find an article for a new thread yet.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 12:42:00 pm
Sweet Jesus there's so much happening lately. Supposedly Trump just made an airstrike on Syrian forces. Can't find an article for a new thread yet.

What !

/me  falls off his cushion
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 12:49:23 pm
Rebel official says coalition jets destroy Syrian army and Iranian backed militia convoy
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-iran-idUSKCN18E2KP

U.S.-led coalition jets hit a convoy of Syrian and Iranian-backed militias that were heading toward the Tanf base in southern Syria where U.S. special forces are based, a rebel official with a Pentagon-backed rebel group said on Thursday

Muzahem al Saloum, from the Maghawir al Thwra group, told Reuters that the jets struck after rebel forces clashed with advancing Syrian and Iranian militias that were about 27 kms away from the base.

"We notified the coalition that we were being attacked by the Syrian army and Iranians in this point and the coalition came and destroyed the advancing convoy," Saloum said.

(Reporting by Suleiman Al-Khalidi; Editing by Toby Chopra)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: poseidonlost on May 18, 2017, 12:59:39 pm
Thanks, that's a bit more detailed. All I could find was this crappy Merica article...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/18/us-air-strikes-pound-pro-assad-forces-in-syria.html (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/18/us-air-strikes-pound-pro-assad-forces-in-syria.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 01:02:05 pm
Thanks, that's a bit more detailed. All I could find was this crappy Merica article...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/18/us-air-strikes-pound-pro-assad-forces-in-syria.html (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/18/us-air-strikes-pound-pro-assad-forces-in-syria.html)

You are just quicker than the media to report !

I'm sure the press will catch up . . .  they will desperately plagiarising things like the Reuters post above
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: poseidonlost on May 18, 2017, 01:06:45 pm
You are just quicker than the media to report !

I'm sure the press will catch up . . .  they will desperately plagiarising things like the Reuters post above

 8) Actually here's the best I've seen so far. Apparently there were Syrian aircraft involved. There's going to be a lot more to this I believe...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-aircraft-strike-syrian-regime-forces-al-tanf-base/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-aircraft-strike-syrian-regime-forces-al-tanf-base/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 01:16:54 pm
Its very confusing.

I keep hitting refresh on RT, they are usually quick and accurate.

I would suspect that the accuracy angle is why they are so far silent.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 01:21:09 pm
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I bet many of those Iraqi Shi'ites who collaborated with the #US during the #Iraq war are regretting that now that the US is bombing them .
--PartisanGirl @Partisangirl
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: Al Bundy on May 18, 2017, 01:22:29 pm
Its very confusing.

I keep hitting refresh on RT, they are usually quick and accurate.

I would suspect that the accuracy angle is why they are so far silent.

https://www.rt.com/usa/388864-us-led-coalition-confirms-strike-syria/http://
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 01:30:12 pm
https://www.rt.com/usa/388864-us-led-coalition-confirms-strike-syria/http://

 8) Cool


US-led coalition confirms airstrike on pro-govt convoy in Syria citing 'threat to US partner forces'
https://www.rt.com/usa/388864-us-led-coalition-confirms-strike-syria/

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 The US forces in Syria have bombed a militia group fighting alongside the Syrian government forces in southern Syria on Thursday, the US-led coalition has confirmed.

The coalition said in a statement that the forces at Tanf base near the Syria-Iraq-Jordan border "posed a threat" to US and partner forces.

    May 18 #Coalition struck #Syrian pro-regime forces advancing in a de-confliction zone near At Tanf posing a threat to #US partner forces1/3
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Airstrike - 23 July 2016 - WTF ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 01:31:30 pm
Anyone remember this ?

23 July 2016

Russia 'DELIBERATELY bombed secret military base in Syria used by elite American and British forces'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3704173/Russia-DELIBERATELY-bombs-secret-military-base-Syria-used-elite-American-British-forces.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 01:40:07 pm
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#Iraq and #Syria met up to discuss jointly fighting #ISIS, during the meeting, the US bombs joint Syrian & Iraqi forces. Get the message?
Partisangirl @Partisangirl 1 minute ago
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: Al Bundy on May 18, 2017, 01:53:19 pm
Trуmp feared impeachment ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 01:55:05 pm
Its madness
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army
Post by: poseidonlost on May 18, 2017, 02:32:40 pm
Trуmp feared impeachment ?

That was my first thought. He's under pressure from his opponents again, so he blew stuff up.

We just shouldn't be there anymore. There's nothing to win or lose.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US jets bomb Assad tank convoy
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 02:44:59 pm
Daily Telegraph

US jets bomb Assad tank convoy advancing on coalition base in Syria

Josie Ensor, Beirut
18 May 2017

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/18/us-fighter-jets-bomb-assad-tank-convoy-advancing-coalition-base/

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US-led coalition aircraft bombed forces allied to the Syrian government on Thursday night, after they advanced too close to a base where Western special forces are training rebel fighters.

American jets were understood to have struck a convoy of 27 tanks as they moved to within 15 miles of a coalition garrison in al-Tanf, a border crossing point to Iraq in southern Syria, marking the most direct clash between coalition forces and fighters with Bashar al-Assad's regime.

Syrian, Iranian and allied Lebanese Hizbollah forces have in recent days moved surface-to-air missiles closer to the eastern frontline with the moderate Free Syrian Army (FSA) units, in an apparent warning to the US-led coalition, which flies sorties against Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) in the area.

"A convoy going down the road didn't respond to numerous ways for it to be warned off from getting too close to coalition forces in al-Tanf," a US official confirmed.

US aircraft then attempted to buzz the regime, but when the convoy did not turn around, they conducted a strike against some of the vehicles.

"Then there was finally a strike against the lead portion of that movement."

Mozahem al-Saloum, spokesman for the FSA’s Maghawir al-Thawra brigade at the base, told The Telegraph that the fighters are trained to only fight Isil but were forced to “defensively” engage with the pro-regime fighters.


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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/18/us-fighter-jets-bomb-assad-tank-convoy-advancing-coalition-base/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - S.A.S versus Hezbolah ? ? ? WTF
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 18, 2017, 07:01:20 pm
S.A.S versus Hezbolah  ? ? ? WTF

Who wrote this script ?

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Still think the script writers ought to be fired, Alien v Predator was a better script.
 :)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Airstrike - ‘absolutely unacceptable’ – Russia
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 19, 2017, 05:47:38 am
RT

US-led coalition strike against Syrian forces ‘absolutely unacceptable’ – Russian Foreign Ministry

19 May, 2017
https://www.rt.com/news/388888-us-strike-syria-forces/

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 The US-led coalition strike on a pro-government convoy in Syria is unacceptable and violates the sovereignty of the country, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said.

“Any military actions leading to the aggravation of the situation in Syria definitely affect the political process. Especially if such actions are committed against the Syrian armed forces… This is totally unacceptable; it is a violation of Syrian sovereignty. Of course, it does not help the political process,” Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov stated on Friday.

Damascus said on Friday that the Thursday strike hit a Syrian Army position on Al-Tanf road in the Syrian desert “which led to casualties and material damage,” Sana reports.

Senior Russian senator Konstantin Kosachev also condemned the strike, questioning whether it was a deliberate attack.

“You cannot consider the US-led coalition airstrike against pro-government forces on Thursday an accident or a mistake anymore. This is a deliberate action and its consequences are yet to be estimated,” Kosachev wrote on his Facebook page.

“This is not only an attack in Syria and against Syria, but also against Geneva [negotiations]. The US is irritated that the Geneva process is not under its control and, what is worse, it can be successful.”

The sixth round of Syrian peace talks in Geneva which started on Tuesday was “short, but productive,” Gatilov said. He also noted that UN Special Envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura wanted the experts’ meetings to continue beyond the negotiations.

Earlier, the US-led coalition admitted striking a militia group fighting alongside Syrian government forces in southern Syria on Thursday. They said in a statement that the Syrian forces “posed a threat” to US and allied troops at Tanf base near the Syria-Iraq-Jordan border.

    May 18 #Coalition struck #Syrian pro-regime forces advancing in a de-confliction zone near At Tanf posing a threat to #US partner forces1/3
    — Inherent Resolve (@CJTFOIR) May 18, 2017


The incident took place as pro-government forces reportedly entered one of the recently implemented de-escalation zones in Homs province, where they allegedly clashed with the US-backed Maghawir Al-Thawra militant group (formerly known as ‘New Syrian Army’).

“We notified the coalition that we were being attacked by the Syrian Army and Iranians in this point and the coalition came and destroyed the advancing convoy,” Reuters cited a militant representative as saying.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Trump’s Military Attacks Syrian Militia
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 19, 2017, 06:35:40 am
ANOTHER DAY IN THE EMPIRE

Trump’s Military Attacks Syrian Militia

May 18, 2017
Kurt Nimmo

http://anotherdayintheempire.com/trumps-military-attacks-syrian-militia/

As part of the effort to make sure the people of Syria don’t gain control of their country and defeat the Islamic State and other jihadi groups sponsored by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United States, on Thursday the “U.S.-led coalition” bombed Syrian forces near al-Tanf, an army base where special forces are training “vetted” “Syrian militias,” propaganda-speak for radical jihadists bent on establishing a Wahhabi principality in Syria.


The raid struck a convoy of vehicles, including a tank and a bulldozer. “The raid only destroyed a tank. It did not aim to cause casualties or damage, but to stop an attack” and advance by Syrian government forces and allied militia, according to a non-Syrian commander, Reuters reports.

Other reports indicate there were casualties. “One opposition media group, the Palmyra News Network, says the attack at the Zarka juncture, about 27 kilometers or 17 miles from the border, destroyed a number of vehicles and caused casualties,” reports the Associated Press (http://www.weau.com/content/news/Officials-US-strike-hits-pro-Assad-forces-Syria-423003294.html).
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Airstrike
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 19, 2017, 06:38:37 am
David Icke

US-led coalition confirms airstrike on pro-government convoy in Syria citing 'threat to US partner forces'
By Andrew Cheetham
19 May 2017

https://www.davidicke.com/article/412393/us-led-coalition-confirms-airstrike-pro-government-convoy-syria-citing-threat-us-partner-forces

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‘The US forces in Syria have bombed a militia group fighting alongside the Syrian government forces in southern Syria on Thursday, the US-led coalition has confirmed.

The coalition said in a statement that the Syrian forces “posed a threat” to US and partner troops at Tanf base near the Syria-Iraq-Jordan border.

“This action was taken after apparent Russian attempts to dissuade Syrian pro-regime movement south towards At Tanf were unsuccessful, a coalition aircraft show of force, and the firing of warning shots,” the statement said.

Having commented on the incident, the US Defense Secretary James Mattis said Washington was not deepening its role in the Syrian conflict, but would defend its troops.’

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? -White Helmets - EXPOSED (again, and again....)
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 19, 2017, 06:47:22 am
David Icke

Video Shows Idlib White Helmets Accepting Award From Al-Qaeda

By Andrew Cheetham
19 May 2017

https://www.davidicke.com/article/412499/video-shows-idlib-white-helmets-accepting-award-al-qaeda

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‘Only days after being labeled the “hidden soldiers of the revolution” by the leader of Tahrir al-Sham (al-Qaeda in Syria), Abu Jaber, the White Helmets have now been exposed as having accepted an award from the terrorist group in Idlib after Hayat Tahrir al-Sham organized a ceremony in their honor.

Indeed, a video has been published that is reportedly a video of the ceremony.

The video, which is in Arabic, is accompanied by English subtitles. The video begins with a voiceover which says, “With the Syrian revolution going into it’s 7th year, Hay’at Tahreer al-Sham (Nusra) finds that it is its duty to honor the hidden soldiers who spent their days and nights serving their people so it organized an honorary ceremony to give some gratitude to those with the White Helmets.”

The video then shows a “dramatization” of the chemical attack and the “heroism” of the White Helmets.’

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Airstrike on Syrian Army - 3rd Strike !
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 19, 2017, 09:10:30 am
Pentagon Conducts Third Illegal Attack on Syrian Arab Army in 8 Months – Corporate Media Serves As Their Apologists
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/05/19/pentagon-conducts-third-illegal-attack-on-syrian-arab-army-in-8-months-corporate-media-serves-as-their-apologists/

    On Sept. 17th, 2016 – “ US, British, Danish and Australian forces carried out a well-planned (two to three days in the planning stages) and sustained (well over 30 minutes) attack on Syrian troops outside Deir ez-Zor which killed 62 Syrian soldiers and wounded another 100 or so. The Syrian forces at the time were engaged in a fight with “ISIS”, trying to keep them from an airport at that location. “ISIS” wanted the airport for resupply. After the Russians demanded the US-led coalition stop attacking Syrian forces, the US agreed and sat back and did nothing as “ISIS” took advantage of the incident and advanced on the airport” S.C.

    On April 6th, 2017 – “While meeting with the president of China, the (Pentagon) launched an illegal and unauthorized attack on the Syrian military targeting the Ash Sha’irat airfield in Homs province, western Syria…. (Pentagon) had no authorization from congress to use military force against the Syrian government or it’s military… A week (earlier) the Secretary of State (the president and the Ambassador to the UN) said that the people of Syria would decide the fate of Assad (which signaled) our efforts to force regime change were over.” S.C.

    On May 18th, 2017 – “Yesterday a small battalion size force (~2-300 men) of the regular Syrian army, Syrian National Defense Organization volunteers and Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF/PMU of the Kata’ib al-Imam Ali) marched on the road from the west towards al-Tanaf. They were about 23 kilometers away from the border station when they were attack by U.S. aircraft coming in low from Jordan. The U.S. jets directly fired at the convoy, allegedly after earlier giving some “warning shots”. At least one Syrian tank and several other vehicles were destroyed. Six Syrian government forces were reported killed and more were wounded.” Moon of Alabama



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https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/05/19/pentagon-conducts-third-illegal-attack-on-syrian-arab-army-in-8-months-corporate-media-serves-as-their-apologists/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Al Bundy on May 19, 2017, 01:20:45 pm
"US President Trump has no authority for latest bombing" of Syria   

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/05/18/frickin-illegal-congressman-says-trump-has-no-authority-latest-bombinghttp://
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - SouthFront - speaks about Air Strike
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 19, 2017, 08:10:13 pm
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South Front

Syrian War Report – May 19, 2017: US-Led Forces Fights With Syrian Army For Iraqi Border


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-19-2017-us-led-forces-fights-with-syrian-army-for-iraqi-border/

Warplanes operating under the US-led coalition carried out airstrikes against a Syrian Arab Army (SAA) convoy advancing along the Al-Tanf-Damascus-Baghdad international road. The airstrikes targeted Syrian forces in Al-Shuhaimi area, 50 km from the town of Al-Tanf located at the Syrian-Iraqi border.

The airstrikes destroyed two battle tanks, and damaged a Shilka vehicle, several pickups and trucks. Six SAA fighters lost their life and 3 were injured.

The US-led coalition said that the airstrikes were “warning shots” against Shiite militias. However, Shiite militias operation at the Al-Tanf road don’t have tanks or Shilka vehicles and there were many pictures and videos showing the presence of elements of the SAA in the area.

The US airstrikes on government forces are a clear signal that Washington are seeking prevent the Syrian government from taking control over the border and to build a buffer zone between Syria and Iraq that could establish an alliance in the near future.

Meanwhile, Jaysh al-Thuwar, a US-backed Free Syrian Army group, claimed that its militants have attacked the SAA and prevented it from approaching the Al-Tanf area. Earlier this week, a representative of Jaysh al-Thuwar, said that the target of the Free Syrian Army and the US-led coalition is to capture the city of Deir Ezzor.

Recently, Jaysh al-Thuwar received 20 technical vehicles as well as some TOW missiles and mortars from the US-led coalition, claiming that it will be used in the battle for capturing Al Bukamal.

From its side, the SAA transferred significant forces from Homs and Damascus to Suweida including tanks and 130 mm artillery pieces. It was also announced that the National Defense Forces in Suweida will participate in the operation.

Government forces, led by the Syrian Arab Army’s Tiger Forces, have been advancing against ISIS terrorists in the eastern part of the province of Aleppo. Following the previous advances, the Tiger Forces got control over the villages of Wadi Muwayih, Jub al-Ali, Tal Hasan, Nafiyah, Atirah and Mazyuna. In coming days, government forces will continue their operation against ISIS in the area aiming to isolate the ISIS stronghold of Maskanah.

248 men from the province of Raqqah have received training and joined the US-backed Syrian Democratic Fores (SDF). These fighters will participate in an operation aimed at capturing Raqqa city from ISIS terrorists.

The SDF has also trained more than 50 men from the province of Raqqah as security forces. The task of this force will be to secure the province of Raqqa after capturing it.

Meanwhile, the SDF has the captured villages of Thoul Nail, Hamrat Ghanam, Annadah and Tall Zaidan and advanced on the villages of Hamrat Buwaytiyah and Raqqah as Samra in the Raqqah countryside.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Air Strike - FAILED !!
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 20, 2017, 05:36:33 am
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Large battalion of #Syria-n and #Iraqi forces still heading to #Tanaf in spite of #US airstrikes. US will either pull out of Syria or fight.

---- Partisangirl @Partisangirl


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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 20, 2017, 01:38:44 pm
Thanks for posting EG.  I only learned of the Syria strike from this forum.  Dead silence from MSM. 
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 20, 2017, 02:06:30 pm
Thanks for posting EG.  I only learned of the Syria strike from this forum.  Dead silence from MSM.

OMG you really know its not the PPF when some one says "Thanks" - LOL


I don't have a TV so I had no idea that this story was on a unofficial news black out ~ as in pushed to the bottom of the pile.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Al Bundy on May 21, 2017, 01:40:27 am
Thanks for posting EG.  I only learned of the Syria strike from this forum.  Dead silence from MSM.

Truth.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Battle 4 Raqqah: Preconditions, Opposing Forces, Forecast
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 21, 2017, 03:02:15 am

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South Front

Battle For Raqqah: Preconditions, Opposing Forces, Forecast


The city of Raqqah is considered one of the most important Syrian cities. The city is located on the northeast bank of the Euphrates River, at the edge of “Sharqiya Syria”, a term used to describe eastern Syria. Syria’s largest dam, the Tabqah Dam is located 40 kilometers west of Raqqah. The dam is one of the most important electricity and water sources in Syria. It was built to generate the hydroelectric power, as well as irrigate lands on both sides of the Euphrates. The town of Tabqah and the nearby Tabqah Miitary Airport are located directly south of the dam.
Raqqah is linked with the Syrian industrial capital of Aleppo, the oil-rich province of Deir Ezzor, and the fertile area Hasakah through the M4 Highway. The city’s inhabitants number 220,000, according to the 2004 census. The Raqqah countryside is home to about 100,000 people.

The strategic importance of the city as well as the nearby Tabqah dam turned Raqqah into a target for every faction involved in the war and all of them have attempted to take control of it.

At the beginning of the Syrian crisis, Raqqah was one of the calmest provinces, as it did not witness any significant protests or violence. Sporadic protests by opposition groups did not exceed a hundred protestors at their peak.
Thus, Raqqah and its capital became one of the safest provinces accepting scores of loyalist refugees displaced from the Aleppo, Hasakah, and Deir Ezzor where fierce clashes between pro-government forces and militants took place in 2012.

At the end of 2012, Ahrar Al-Sham with the support of Jabhat al-Nusra (the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda; Now it’s known as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham) declared its intention to capture the provincial capital of Raqqah and launched a military operation to do this. Ahrar al-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusra captured the Jirah Airbase and the important town of Maskanah in the province of Aleppo, and entered into the province of Raqqah. Militants captured Tabqah and the Tabqah Military Airport and captured the city of Raqqah after 3 days of clashes on March 6, 2013.

The Syrian Army did not organize any real defenses for the city. This led to many questioning the loyalties of the provincial leadership, which seemingly played an integral role in the loss of this strategic province.

Initially, ISIS activities inside the city were aimed at supporting Ahrar al-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusra in actions against the besieged Syrian Army military installations in its vicinity. However, later ISIS began own operation in order to recapture Raqqah from Ahrar al-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusra. ISIS declared a control over Raqqah in January 2014. A majority of Ahrar al-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusra militants fled, abandoning the entire city to ISIS. Those who remained either defected to ISIS or were executed.

In the past three years, ISIS was systematically strengthening its presence and influence in Raqqah as it did not face any real danger from other forces involved in the war.

In 2016, following the first liberation of Palmyra, the Syrian Army, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, launched an advance with the goal of recapturing the Tabqah Military Airport and even the city of Raqqah from ISIS. However, government forces did not reach even their first goal and were pushed to retreat after a series of ISIS counter attacks.

The start of the Russian military operation in Syria in 2015 dramatically changed the course of the war and returned an ability to conduct successful operations to the Assad government. The government advance on the Tabqah Military Airport resulted in no gains. Nonetheless, it became clear that if the US-led coalition against ISIS continues ignoring the terrorist group in Syria, the Syrian government and its allies would be able to solve this problem by themselves. [Just for example, in the same year, the Syrian army liberated the city of Aleppo from Jabhat al-Nusra and its allies. This was one of the biggest government victories in this war.] This could become a major diplomatic and PR failure for the US and its regional allies.

In October 2015, the new brand of the US-backed forces appeared in the war. The establishment of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) was declared during a press conference in Hasakah, a town controlled by the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its military wing the People’s Protection Units (YPG). While the US and the mainstream media claimed that, the SDF was multi-ethnic organization, the YPG and the YPJ, the female equivalent of the YPG, became the core of the group. Understanding this problem, the US-led coalition contributed significant efforts in 2016 and in early 2017 to build an Arab faction in the SDF. However, the Kurdish militias remained the undisputed core of the SDF.

On November 6, 2016, the SDF, backed up by the US-led coalition’s air power and special forces, launched the Operation Euphrates Wrath aimed at expelling ISIS from the province of Raqqah.

Now, the SDF officially includes:

    36,000 YPG fighters
    24,000 YPJ fighters
    20,000 Arab tribal fighters including groups like the Manbij Military Council

Between 10,000 and 20,000 members of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) present in the SDF-held area in northern Syria and unofficially participate in SDF military operations. Official representatives of the PYD and the YPG have repeatedly denied this fact because it could negatively impact the US-Turkish relations. An official recognition of this fact will also create a pretext for Ankra to launch a military operation against the SDF. Turkey and a number of other nations describe the PKK as a terrorist group. The Turkish leadership insists that the YPG is just a branch of the PKK.

However, this does not stop Ankara from conducting military strikes on YPG targets along the Turkish-Syrian border. The United States have been pushed to increase its military activity along the border and at a contanct line between the SDF and pro-Turkish militants in the province of Aleppo to prevent a possible full-scale Turkish military operations against the SDF/YPG in northern Syria. Thus, US troops play a role of buffer force between Turkey and the SDF.

The SDF advance in the Raqqah countryside is ongoing amid an immense fire support from the US Coalition’s warplanes, attack helicopters and artillery. The US also expanded few airfields inside Syria. They are used for delivering supplies to the SDF and as forward bases for US attack helicopters. The US, French and Germany special operations forces also play an important role in supporting the SDF on the ground. The US Marine Corps provides an artillery support for SDF operations around Raqqah.

So far, the SDF has been able to outflank Raqqah from the western, eastern and northern directions, to cross the Euphrates and to capture the Tabqah Military Airport, the town of Tabqah and to set a foothold for isolating the ISIS self-proclaimed capital from the southern direction.

From its side, ISIS began preparing for the Battle of Raqqah since the Coalition’s announcement of the Raqqah operation in 2016.

Since the beginning, it became clear that ISIS was not intending to defend numerous villages in the Raqqah countryside. In turn, ISIS implemented a mobile defense approach. ISIS units were retreating under the pressure of the SDF and the US-led coalition from small villages and were counter-attacking relying on technicals and vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices (VBIEDs).

The goal of this strategy was (and is) to deliver a maximum possible damage to the SDF manpower and military equipment instead of attempting to defend small settlements without any strategic value. Tabqah, the Tabqah Military Airbase and the Tabqah dam were the only locations that ISIS had attempted to defend because of their strategic value – controlling these sites, US-backed forces will have a foothold on the southern bank of the Euphrates west of Tabqah.

Inside and around Raqqah, ISIS started setting up a series of fortifications around the city at the end of 2016 by constructing a high berm and a trench that encircles the city in its entirety. Several local sources also reported that the terrorist group had worked on establishing an intricate series of tunnels, trenches, and cement barriers inside Raqqah.

Furthermore, opposition sources reported that ISIS began lacing explosives and planting IEDs in sensitive areas inside and around the city.

At the turn of 2017 following the success of US-backed forces in Raqqah’s western and eastern countryside and the cutting off of the Raqqah-Deir Ezzor highway in addition to the Syrian Army’s resilience in Deir Ezzor, ISIS began relocating its equipment and ammunition to the insides of the city as well as establishing firing points and sniper nests. The terrorist group has been also relocating its most experienced fighters to the city.

According to different sources, in Raqqah ISIS has between 5,000 and 10,000 fighters and its most effective armament including TOW and Fagot missiles smuggled from Idlib. ISIS also has stocked weapons like RPG-29 and OSA M-79 for the Battle of Raqqah. Dozens of tanks and armored vehicles have been deployed inside the city. The group is actively manufacturing various kinds of VBIEDs using their stock of explosives.

A military planning, a motivated infantry and a sophisticated usage of VBIEDs are the key strong sides of ISIS forces.
The current goal of the US-led forces is to seize control of the Raqqah countryside putting an additional pressure on the terrorist group from the northern and western direction. It’s expected that the US-led coalition and its allies on the ground will attempt to repeat the Mosul-like operation. However, there is a difference: US-backed forces could leave an escape route for ISIS members south of Raqqah. This could allow to ease the resistance of ISIS members inside the city. Meanwhile, if this is done, many terrorist group members will be able to remain alive and free in Syria. Some of them could then move to Europe as refugees.

The storm Raqqah will include a heavy bombing campaign by the US-led coalition air force with warplanes, attack helicopters and drones, as well as Marine artillery. The United States will expand their military presence on frontlines against ISIS and deploy more troops and military equipment. Like in Mosul, Washington and the mainstream media will likely deny that US troops are directly engaged in a battle against ISIS in Raqqah. However, without an active US military support, the SDF will be hardly able to retake Raqqah from ISIS in a realistic time.
ISIS will also use the Mosul experience, using well-equipped small groups of fighters, deploying huge numbers of snipers on all streets of the city, and of course the heavy use of VBIED and suicide bombers to attack any gathering of SDF, and to deploy mines and IEDs on all roads.

One of the biggest problems that the SDF will face is a high number of civilians in the city. According to local sources, there are over 250,000 people, including refugees from Deir Ezzor and Iraq, and families of ISIS terrorists in Raqqah.

In general, the battle is expected to last months, and unfortunately, as in Mosul, large numbers of civilians will be killed due to a fighting and the coalition’s bombing campaign. US military officials argue that US-backed forces will start storming Raqqah this summer. Nonetheless, it’s complicated to forecast when the city is retaken from terrorists. Iraqi forces launched their final push towards the ISIS stronghold of Mosul on October 16, 2016 and the city has not been liberated completely so far.

Tensions between the PYD/YPG and the Turkish government is another factor that impacts and slows down the SDF advance on Raqqah.

Meanwhile, the Kurdish-dominated SDF has announced that the liberated city will be included in the Federation of Northern Syria–Rojava, the YPG/SDF-held area of northern Syria.

This raises a lot of concern in the Syrian government and many pro-government activists question the loyalty of the administration that will rule the city and the people’s desire to join Kurdish federalism, especially after much talk about the racist practices of the Kurdish federal administration in Hasakah and Qamishli against the Arabs. Some speculations even say that if SDF succeeded in controlling the city, it may fail in managing it. However, it is too early to make such far-reaching conclusions.

The liberation of Raqqah is an important part of the broader effort aimed at expelling ISIS terrorists from Syria and Iraq. All sides share this point.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 22, 2017: ISIS Rapidly Losing Ground In E. Aleppo
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 22, 2017, 11:48:10 am
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South Front

Syrian War Report – May 22, 2017: ISIS Rapidly Losing Ground In Eastern Aleppo


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-22-2017-isis-rapidly-losing-ground-in-eastern-aleppo/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces and their allied units are rapidly clearing the countryside Maskanah, a strategic town in the province of Aleppo, from ISIS terrorists. So far, government troops have liberated Wadi Muwayih, Jub al-Ali, Tal Hasan, Nafiyah, Atirah, Mazyuna, the Thaletha farm, the railroad station, Samaljieh and the Al-Khazim Gas Station. The advance was supported by multiple airstrikes carried out by Russian and Syrian aircraft on ISIS targets in the Maskanah countryside.

According to pro-government sources, some 19 ISIS members died in the recent clashes. In turn, ISIS argued that 2 armoured vehicles belonging to the SAA were destroyed.

With these advances, the SAA is now in about 10 km from Maskanah with only 3 villages – Sain, Ras al-Ayn and Sakariyah – remaining on the government forces way to the entrance to the ISIS stronghold.

The SAA, Hezbollah, the National Defense Forces, Druze militias, the Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP) and other pro-government factions continued their advance east of Suweida in southern Syria. They liberated the area of Zuluf, the Zuluf dam and Dahra Umm.

South of the Zaza triangle on the Damascus-Baghdad road, the SAA and its allies reached the Scientific Research Battalion area ad also captured it.

Meanwhile reports appeared that large reinforcements arrived to SAA units operating in the Suweida countryside and at the Al-Tanf road area. The deployed units were from the National Defense Forces in Suweida, the Arab Tawheed Party, the Ibdal movement and the Iraqi Imam Ali Battalions.

On Saturday, the US-led coalition deployed units of the Norwegian Special Operations Forces at the Al-Tanf area in Syria. Norwegian troops had entered Syria from Iraq under a pretext of ISIS attack in the area. Thus, Washington and its allies continued efforts aimed at preventing the Damascus government from regaining control over the Syrian border with Jordan and Iraq.

On Sunday, a number of pro-government sources reported that Russia may deploy its Special Operations Forces in order to support Syrian government forces advancing in the border area. Experts believe that the presence of Russian military servicemen in the area will prevent further airstrikes by the US-led coalition. However, the reports still have to be confirmed by some evidence.

On Sunday, the last batch of militants and their supporters left the al-Weaer district of the city of Homs, transferring a full control of the area to government forces assisted by the Russian Military Police.

ISIS terrorists are reportedly preparing to withdraw from the Al-Yarmouk camp south of the Syrian capital of Damascus. According to unconfirmed reports, ISIS had reached an evacuation agreement with local Palestinian leaders. The agreement will allow the evacuation of ISIS militants and their supporters from the camp with the approval of the Syrian government. According to local sources, ISIS distributed leaflets to the people in mosques inside the Al-Yarmouk camp and called on those who wished to leave the camp to the ISIS-held areas in eastern Syria. The leaflets stated that ISIS opens the door for registration for civilians who wish to exit to “the lands of the Caliphate” east of the country. Fighters of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) have also agreed to withdraw from their positions in Al-Yarmouk camp to Idlib province.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 23, 2017: Syrian Army Expels US-backed Militants
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 23, 2017, 06:02:48 pm

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Syrian War Report – May 23, 2017: Syrian Army Expels US-backed Militants From Syrian Desert


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-23-2017-syrian-army-expels-us-backed-militants-from-syrian-desert/

US-backed militant groups, often referred to as the Free Syrian Army (FSA), have declared the start of a counter-offensive against “the regime and its foreign militias” in the area east of Suweida in southeastern Syria. The counter-offensive was dubbed operation “Desert Volcano”. Its declared goal is to expel government forces from the Syrian desert.

Since last weekend, the Syrian Army and its allies have made notable gains east of Suweida and along the Damascus-Baghdad highway. These advances posed a direct threat to the US-led plan aimed at building a buffer zone controlled by US-backed factions between Syria and Iraq. Now, the US-led forces are going to use force against the Syrian military in order to achieve their strategic goal.

Meanwhile, the US-led coalition’s aircraft have reportedly dropped leaflets on the ISIS-held border town of al-Bakumal. The leaflets called on locals to avoid moving near ISIS objects in the area. This event could be linked with the coalition’s willingness to capture this border town and expand its influence along the Syrian-Iraqi border. However, this goal is complicated by the low number and quality of US-led militant groups operating in the area.

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA), Liwa al-Quds, the 5th Assault Corps, and the National Defense Forces (NDF) have resumed their push against ISIS east of the ancient city of Palmyra, aiming to take control over the village of Arak and the nearby Arak gas field. Government troops have advanced over 3 km northeast of Palmyra and entered a number of hills in the area north of Arak. With this advance, government forces are going to outflank ISIS units in the area of Arak and are going to set a fire control over this area.

Pro-government forces, led by the Tiger Forces, continued their advance on the ISIS-held town of Maskkanah in the province of Aleppo. According to pro-government sources, 7 ISIS militants were killed and a vehicle destroyed in the recent clashes.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have isolated further the ISIS stronghold of Raqqah. SDF units have captured two main roads east and west of Raqqah and have continued their advance aiming to reach its vicinity from the northern and western directions. The only road from Raqqah under the control of ISIS is the road to the south.

Summing up the recent developments, it becomes clear that in the nearest future the main competition will take place in the Syrian border area with Jordan and Iraq and in the countryside of Deir Ezzor. If the US-led coalition is able to prevent the Syrian government from re-establishing control in these areas, it will achieve a strategic victory that will impact dramatically the situation in post-war Syria.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - wow - SyrianGirl
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 24, 2017, 10:13:54 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Al Bundy on May 24, 2017, 11:30:04 am
I hope so that Syrian Girl protect someone from FSB. In Serbia also one Muslim on TV, Internet all the time speak against ISIS and Jihad and I scare for him too.   
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 24, 2017: Govt Forces Advance On Multiple Frontlines
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 24, 2017, 11:39:29 am

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Syrian War Report – May 24, 2017: Syrian Army Expels US-backed Militants From Syrian Desert


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-24-2017-govt-forces-advance-on-multiple-frontlines/

Government forces are advancing against ISIS and Western-backed militant groups on multiple frontlines across Syria.

In the province of Aleppo, the Syrian Army (SAA) Tiger Forces liberated Jamiliyah, Rasm al-Hammam, Mahsanah, Qanawiyah, Kherbet Marzah and the so-called 2nd Farm. Considering the current rapid progress, government troops will likely reach the ISIS stronghold of Maskanah located near the Raqqah province border within this week.

ISIS does not have enough manpower to stop the government advance in the Maskanah countryside. The terrorist group responded intensifying raids at the Inthriyah-Aleppo road, the only supply line to the government-held city of Aleppo.

In the province of Homs, the Republican Guard advanced east of al-Qaryatayn capturing a number of hills, including Jabal Baridah. Government troops are moving in the direction of the al-Busairi crossroad, an important point south of the Tiyas Airbase. Reports appear that ISIS has already abandoned this area. However, this still has to be confirmed.

In the Syrian desert northeast of Suweida, the SAA, the National Defense Forces, Hezbollah, the Syrian Social Nationalist Party and other pro-government units advanced east of the recently captured Zuluf area and south of the Scientific Research Battalion. These operations are aimed at preventing US-backed militant groups from developing momentum in the area and establishing control over important sites and the Syrian border with Iraq.

The so-called moderate opposition in southeastern Syria had been able to achieve no success during the peak phase of battles against ISIS. However, now, when the terrorist group is collapsing, these militant groups are turning in a useful tool for the US-led block.

The SAA, the 5th Assault Corps and Liwa al-Quds continued operations against ISIS northeast and south of Palmyra.

According to Turkish Anadolu Agency, about 100 trucks with weapons and equipment for Kurdish militias arrived Syria from Iraq between May 15 and May 21. The weapons were provided by the US as a part of its program to supply directly YPG and YPJ that were a core of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces.

According to the report, Kurdish militias received BGM-71 TOW and Milan missiles, 80mm and 120mm mortars, MK19 belt-fed automatic grenade launchers, assault rifles as well as Humwee and Cougar vehicles and drones. The agency also argued that the US has provided FGM-148 Javelin missiles to Kurdish forces.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - White Helmets Assisting Public Executions AGAIN !!
Post by: 2Revolutions on May 25, 2017, 10:14:01 am
Yet Another Video Shows U.S.-Funded White Helmets Assisting Public Executions in Rebel-Held Syria

http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/white-helmets-assisting-public-executions-rebel-held-syria (http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/white-helmets-assisting-public-executions-rebel-held-syria)

Syria Civil Defense, popularly known as the White Helmets, can be seen in a new video assisting in a public execution in a rebel-held town in Syria. It is at least the second such execution video featuring members of the Nobel Prize-nominated group.

The White Helmets have received at least $23 million in funding from the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), a wing of the State Department. The British Foreign Office and other European governments have pitched in as well.

Frequently cited as an invaluable source of information by major Western media outlets, the group was the subject of an Academy Award-winning 2016 Netflix documentary, The White Helmets.

Endorsements from A-list Hollywood celebrities like George Clooney and Justin Timberlake, as well as Hillary Clinton and British Foreign Minister Boris Johnson, have followed.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 25, 2017: Govt Forces Liberate Large Areas In Aleppo
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 25, 2017, 11:54:48 am

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Syrian War Report – May 25, 2017: Govt Forces Liberate Large Areas In Aleppo And Homs


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-25-2017-govt-forces-liberate-large-areas-in-aleppo-and-homs/

ISIS terrorists are on the run in the eastern part of the Syrian province of Aleppo as government forces are rapidly advancing in the Maskanah countryside.

On May 24th, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces liberated 5 more villages taking control of Battushiyah, Salihiyah, Jabab Musaid Kebir, Jabab Musaid Segirr, and Shummari. Tiger Forces also advanced on Mushayrifat Bani Jamil and Kherbet Ghudraf.

On the same day, the Syrian Defense Ministry released a statement describing the current achievements of the operation against ISIS in Aleppo. According to the ministry, the army liberated 30 villages, the Jirah Military Airbase, killed some 3,000 ISIS terrorists, destroyed 19 battle tanks, 5 BMP vehicles, and 11 VBIEDs. Concurrently, the Syrian Air Force destroyed 9 ammunition depots. To say the least, ISIS losses in man-power provided in the report seem overestimated.

Syrian troops also neutralized a number of ISIS top members during the operation, including ISIS Minister of War, Abu Mosaab al-Masri. If confirmed, this constitutes a major blow to ISIS ahead of the expected government push in the direction of Deir Ezzor and the US-backed advance on Raqqah.

The SAA 5th Assault Corps has taken control of the Arak gas field east of Palmyra as well as the Abtar mountain, the missile battalion, the Hillabat Palace area, and Tal Al-Fari south of the ancient city.

According to local sources, ISIS intends to withdraw from the entire area south of Palmyra and eastern Qalamoun. This comes amid the SAA push against ISIS in the eastern Homs countryside and the US-backed Free Syrian Army advance in the direction of Al-Bukamal.

According to local sources, the US-led coalition carried out an air landing operation in the area of Hamidiya near the city earlier this week. During the operation, US Special Forces reportedly killed 8 ISIS fighters.

Meanwhile, US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have captured the villages of Hamra Balasim, Nasira, and Al-Furqun in the Raqqah countryside.

The SDF is aiming to capture the Baath dam west of Raqqah in order to cut the last ISIS logistical line in the area.



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 25, 2017
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 25, 2017, 11:59:43 am
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Tiger Forces Encircling ISIS-held Town Of Maskanah In Aleppo Province

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Syrian Military Declares Start Of Operation Grand Dawn, Aims To Capture Eastern Syrian Desert (Photos, Videos)
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Military Situation In Raqqah Countryside On May 25, 2017 (Syria Map Update)
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Military Situation In Syria On May 25, 2017 (Map Update)

https://southfront.org/military-situation-in-syria-on-may-25-2017-map-update/

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 25, 2017, 02:28:59 pm
This I suspect is true. Although the American Aircraft turned around, it is surely just a matter of time before a Mistake Happens and somebody gets shotdown. Heck, I would not be surprised if the Plan was to get an Amercian Aircraft Shotdown as a pretext for America to gets its Air War and impose a No Fly Zone - like it did in Libiya

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 25, 2017: Syrian Army Liberated 5,000km2 From ISIS
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 26, 2017, 01:41:25 pm

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Syrian War Report – May 25, 2017: Syrian Army Liberated 5,000km2 From ISIS


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-26-2017-syrian-army-liberated-5000km2-isis/

On Thursday, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allies announced start of the Operation “Grand Dawn” in eastern Syria. The aim of the operation is to expel militants from the eastern desert and to set a foothold for a push to Deir Ezzor. The declaration followed a major success of government forces in southeastern Homs where they had liberated about 5,000 km2 and got a full control over the Damascus-Palmyra highway.

ISIS deployed a force for a counter-attack but its formidable military convoy was fully destroyed by the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Syrian Air Force en route to the Zaza triangle area. Thus, the terrorist group defense lines just collapsed.
The government advance south of the Homs-Palmyra highway also allowed government forces to isolate Jaish al-Islam militants in eastern Qalamoun and to prevent their attempt to unite efforts with US-backed militant groups operating near the Syrian-Jordanian border.

A new photo appeared online showing a Russian-made self-propelled 2S19 Msta-S self-propelled howitzer with the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) in Syria. The modern howitzer was supplied to the Syrian government by the Russian military.

The photo shows the howitzer deployed is a desert area, most likely somewhere in the countryside of Palmyra or north of Suweida. The presence of these weapon systems is another argument contributing to a success of pro-government forces in the area.

In the province of Aleppo, the SAA Tiger Forces and their allies further outflanked the strategic ISIS-held town of Maskanah liberating the villages of Fariyah, Khirbat Ghudraf, Jubab Masudiyah, Shumriya, Batushiya, and Salemiyah.

Meanwhile, the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) continued steadily isolating the city of Raqqah from the western direction.

Summing up the recent developments, the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance have taken the initiative in its hands and now is aiming to achieve own strategic goals in eastern Syria, while the US-led coalition attempts to make some gains along the Jordanian and Iraqi borders and prepares for a storm of Raqqah.

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Dude447 on May 26, 2017, 06:27:04 pm
Well I Hope Trump is  trying to bring to an end  the good old anglo/american Regime change BS that Reps and Dems  seem to love in Washington DC .
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 26, 2017, 07:23:18 pm
Well I Hope Trump is  trying to bring to an end  the good old anglo/american Regime change BS that Reps and Dems  seem to love in Washington DC .

I don't know how close you have been following all of this, so I'm a bit stuck how exactly to reply.

Don't know if you saw him the other day dropping into Saudi Arabia to sign a 350 billion dollar arms deal. Of which we know a chunk of those very same arms get shipped into Syria to arm Al Nusra, and ISIS. Trump complained that was what was happening, so when he signed that deal he knew.... like thats not something some a spin doctor can wriggle out of in a hurry.

Then there is the small matter of doing an airstrike on one of the few forces that wants some pretence of secular govt and fake democracy - a better option than the head chopping factions. Yup, he bombed them . . . with the excuse they was threatening troops which translates to protecting a supply line from Jordan to supply the Al Nusra.

Difficult to know which events to highlight.
 
We are on something like page 8 or page 9 and this thread is not that old, and I feel like we only scratched the surface.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Dude447 on May 27, 2017, 09:58:45 am
Hi EG  . I am not really sure it seems to me the Donald is sending out mixed messages on this one , to me its looking like the same old same old at the moment .
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Al-Qaeda in Syria Now Officially a “Moderate Rebel” Group
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 29, 2017, 06:55:47 am
Hi EG  . I am not really sure it seems to me the Donald is sending out mixed messages on this one , to me its looking like the same old same old at the moment .

Its only confusing if we still attempt to believe the "campaign promises".

Look at this, its not that difficult to see Trump as you say the same old same old ( insert appropiate appellative )


Al-Qaeda in Syria Now Officially a “Moderate Rebel” Group

May 25, 2017
Kurt Nimmo
http://anotherdayintheempire.com/al-qaeda-syria-now-officially-moderate-rebel-group/


Last week MintPress News (http://www.mintpressnews.com/whats-name-u-s-takes-syrias-al-qaeda-off-terror-watchlists/228026/) reported al-Nusra has rebranded itself as Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham and by doing so is no longer on the U.S. terror watchlist.

This frees up the most effective jihadist “rebel” group in Syria to continue the CIA instigated war against Bashar al-Assad’s government.

The State Department has yet to put Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) on the terror watchlist and it probably will not do so anytime soon. The Syrian Arab Army is beginning to make progress in the war.

But the State Department is likely hesitant to label HTS a terror group, even despite the group’s link to al-Qaeda, as the U.S. government has directly funded and armed the al-Zenki Movement, a group that joined forces with al-Nusra under the HTS banner.


The Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement is comparable to al-Nusra, now HTS. It is a rabid and murderous Wahhabi group that has executed journalists, humanitarian workers, and thrown people off buildings in Aleppo. It was accused of beheading a Palestinian boy named Abdullah Tayseer Al Issa.

The rebranding of al-Nusra to Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham is a strategic move. HTS has linked up with the Ansar al-Din Front, Jaysh al-Sunna, Liwa al-Haqq, and the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement to consolidate al-Qaeda’s fanatical ideology under one banner and get their hands on as many weapons as possible.

Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham, like its predecessor al-Nusra, is committed to turning secular Syria into a Wahhabi emirate led by al-Qaeda. A 2012 declassified Defense Intelligence Agency document  (http://levantreport.com/2015/05/19/2012-defense-intelligence-agency-document-west-will-facilitate-rise-of-islamic-state-in-order-to-isolate-the-syrian-regime/)predicts this will eventually be the outcome—in other words, for the United States, this is the preferred outcome of a “civil war” that has killed over a half million people.

Al-Nusra claimed it received sophisticated weapons from the United States.

    …al-Nusra’s top commanders have asserted that they have received U.S.-made weapons, such as TOW missiles and tanks, directly from foreign governments supported by the U.S. In a 2016 interview with the newspaper Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger, al-Nusra unit commander Abu Al Ezz stated that when al-Nusra was “besieged, we had officers from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and America here…Experts in the use of satellites, rockets, reconnaissance and thermal security cameras.”

This is backed up by the fact the U.S. has only targeted the Islamic State (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syrian-airstrikes-could-help-al-qaeda-1.3010608) or Daesh and not al-Nusra positions.

    With al-Nusra now officially removed from Western terror watchlists, foreign governments that are opposed to the Assad regime—particularly the U.S.—will be free to fund and arm al-Qaeda as they see fit, making the West’s alleged goal of creating a post-Assad “secular Syria” a remote possibility at best.

This is certainly the plan. The Islamic State and al-Qaeda now have a presence in both Iraq and Libya, two countries reduced to failed states by the United States.

The same process is now at work in Africa. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), al-Shabab, and Boko Harem provide a pretext for AFRICOM’s move into al-Wigh, a Saharan desert oasis near Libya’s borders with Niger, Chad, and Algeria. AFRICOM’s main base is located at Camp Lemonnier in Djibouti.

The U.S. military has bases and encampments across Africa—in Tunisia, Algeria, Niger, Mali, Egypt, Ethiopia, Cameroon, and many other countries.

Africa’s vast mineral wealth can only be looted by transnational corporations if the African people are subdued—and the austere Wahhabi sect of Sunni Islam is an ideal candidate for authoritarian rule.

Oil corporations thought this was the case in Afghanistan after the Taliban won a bloody civil war. When the Taliban didn’t agree to a pipeline deal, the Bush administration drew up plans to invade the country—months before the attack of September 11, 2001.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Results of Russian Military Campaign In Syria Oct21-May26
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 29, 2017, 07:54:18 am
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Results of Russian Military Campaign In Syria: October 21, 2016 – May 26, 2017


https://southfront.org/results-russian-military-campaign-syria-october-2016-may-2017/

While the war in Syria is far from over, the events of October 2016 through May 2017 will likely be described as its turning point that enabled the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance to assume strategic offensive and dictate the tempo of operations. In turn, various rebel forces, including Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) and Ahrar al-Sham are no longer displaying the ability to launch offensive operations capable of yielding major results.

On October 28 2016, Jabhat Al Nusra, Ahrar Al Sham and Free Syrian Army groups launched a major attack on Aleppo in order to break the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) siege on the rebel-held part of the city. By October 31, the militants captured the Binyamin industrial zone, half of the Binyamin district and most of the Dahyat al Assad district. When the first assault was blunted, Jabhat al-Nusra and its allies launched the second phase of the attack in western Aleppo on November 3.  However, it had failed to break the siege, as the SAA and allied forces continued to keep key roads and intersections leading to the besieged rebel-held areas under observation and fire.

On November 6, 2016, the SAA and its allies launched counter-attack. By November 8, the Binyamin district, al-Hikmah school, and nearly all of Dahyat Al Assad were retaken, while by November 12 the SAA recovered all the territory it lost in the Aleppo area.

The final phase of the Aleppo operation started on November 15, and by December 12, the militants’ defenses in East Aleppo have collapsed. On December 22, the SAA could finally claim complete control of Aleppo city following a militant evacuation from the city.

While the liberation of the city of Aleppo was the greatest success of this period of the war. Furthermore, it had an important implication in both military and diplomatic fields. Jabhat al-Nusra and other militant groups have burned a large number of military equipment and manpower in failed attempts to break the Aleppo siege. They lost a major part of experienced infantry and spent a large amount of weapons, including anti-tank guided missiles and Grad-type rockets, during the battle for Aleppo. This predetermined their defensive posture during next months of the war.

The temporary loss of Palmyra was the biggest setback of the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance.  Taking advantage of the heavy commitment of the SAA and its allies on reducing the Aleppo pocket, ISIS launched an attack on the city of Palmyra on December 8, capturing it by December 11, with the high point of their advance being the attack on the T-4 airbase that began on December 22—not coincidentally, the same day that the complete liberation of the city of Aleppo permitted the SAA to reallocate resources toward other pressing operational problems. These newly freed up forces, as well as formations of the 5th Assault Corps (also known as the 5th Legion), with the help of the Russian Aerospace Forces, were able to repel the attack on T-4 and ultimately liberate Palmyra for the second time on March 1, 2017. In order to prevent the reoccurrence of the Palmyra disaster, the SAA continued to clear territory adjacent to the ancient city, capturing Al Shaer gas field in its northwest, and reaching Arak gas field in its east and Huwaysis village south of it.

In order to step up pressure against ISIS and compel it to divert forces from other fronts, SAA and the Tiger Forces launched a large-scale military operation against ISIS in the eastern countryside of Aleppo on January 17.  Another aim of the operation was to limit Turkish Army’s foray into Syrian territory as part of the Euphrates Shield operation, which led to Al-Bab from ISIS.

The SAA continued its advance in eastern Aleppo countryside, where it captured the town of Tadif south of Al-Bab town on 26 February and reached SDF positions south of Manbij the following day after the jointly capturing several villages. On March 2, Syrian border guards deployed in 15 villages west of Manbij to separating Euphrates Shield forces from SDF. By May 24, the SAA succeeded in liberating over 90 villages in eastern Aleppo countryside, rapidly pushing to the ISIS-held town of Maskanah that remained the last terrorist group stronghold in the province. It liberation will open for the Tiger Force the way to the province of Raqqah and the central Syria from Aleppo and allow to secure the strategic Ithriyah-Aleppo road.

Possibly sensing that the collapse of rebel forces in Aleppo meant that the SAA’s attention would soon turn to the Hama Province, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, Jaish al-Izza and Ahrar al-Sham launched a new attack to reach the city of Hama on 21 March 2017, and managed to capture a large area, including the villages of Souran, Khatab, Rahba, Kawkab and Muardes within three days, before SAA reinforcements deprived the offensive of its momentum. Subsequent rebel attacks failed with heavy losses. The March 21 SAA counterattack was able to retake Khattab. The SAA liberated Muardes on April 11 after prolonged fighting within the city, and continued on to Souran, Taibat al-Imam on April 17, Halfaya on April 22 before its own offensive lost momentum. Thus, government forces reversed all militant gains and even liberated additional areas.

The SAA also fought two swift battles in the vicinity of Damascus that forced evacuation agreements in Khan Al-Shieh on November 30 and the Barada Valley north of Damascus on January 29. On May 13, the SAA took control of important areas of Qaboun and Tishreen in eastern Damascus because of a swift military operation and an evacuation agreement that followed it. During the same month, militants evacuated from the al-Waer neighborhood of Homs and the SAA got a full control over this city.

This phase of the war brought to an end with the May 5, 2017, agreement on safe zones that encompasses Idlib, Daraa, Northern Homs countryside, Damascus, and Eastern Ghouta. The combined effect of the victories and safe-zones will likely be to finally enable the SAA to press eastward to lift the ISIS siege of Deir Ezzor. What has been dubbed by some pro-government sources as Operation Lavender will begin with the liberation of Al-Sukhnah 50km east of the city of Palmyra before proceeding toward Deir Ezzor.

Thus in some ways the current military situation is vastly better than it was in October of last year, thanks to the liberation of Aleppo, the reduction of several rebel-held enclaves, and the heavy losses inflicted on ISIS on several fronts. The operations of the next six months will potentially have to contend with a factor that hitherto was absent, namely the growing presence of US-led coalition troops on Syrian territory.

The US-led coalition has responded to the SAA victories with intensification of operations in southeastern Syria with a goal to build a buffer zone between Syrian government forces and the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units that are rapidly growing to the most influential force in Iraq. The Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance realized the thereat and intensified operations in the area. At the same time, the Syrian Democratic Forces with a large support of the US-led coalition’s airpower, artillery and special forces troops are preparing to storm the ISIS self-proclaimed capital of Raqqah. The competition for the Syrian-Iraqi border and for the oil-reach Deir Ezzor province has officially started.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Situation Escalates At Syrian-Iraqi Border : May 29
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 29, 2017, 12:31:20 pm
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Macron: France To Respond With Immediate Strike To Any Use Of Chemical Weapons In Syria


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France will respond with an immediate strike to any use of chemical weapons in Syria, French President Emmanuel Macron said on Monday, France 24 reported (http://www.france24.com/en/breaking/20170529-putin-macron-press-conference-use-chemical-weapons-syria-will-result-immediate-strike-france?ref=tw_i).

The French president made this statement following a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    BREAKING: Macron, after talks with Putin, says any use of chemical weapons in Syria will lead to “reprisals” from France.

    — The Associated Press (@AP) May 29, 2017 (https://twitter.com/AP/status/869211125493227521)



Earlier on Monday, Macron and his Russian counterpart met in Palace of Versailles to discuss bilateral relations.

    “There are things on which we disagree, but we expressed them. And above all, we discussed ways to conduct our joint actions. We want to act together, because if we don’t create the conditions for that, if we have no open dialogue we will not be able to advance on the issues I mentioned. Sometimes disputes may arise in such a dialogue… but if we don’t reach it, we will not be able to move forward either on the issue of Syria nor of Ukraine,” Macron said following the meeting (https://sputniknews.com/politics/201705291054088540-putin-macron-presser/).
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US Coalition - Warning Syrian Army !
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 30, 2017, 04:38:53 am
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US-led Coalition Drops Leaflets Warning Syrian Army Not To Approach Al-Tanf Town

https://southfront.org/us-led-coalition-warns-the-syrian-army-not-to-approach-al-tanf-town/

The US-led coalition warplanes dropped warning leaflets on the Al-Tanf road after Syrian Arab Army (SAA) advanced to the Shehmi area, 55 km from Al-Tanf town. The leaflets warned the SAA from continuing its advance and asked it to withdraw to the Zaza Triangle. They also included sectarian expressions, according to local sources.

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According to the Syrian TV, the SAA managed to advance in the vicinity of the Scientific Research area in the eastern desert in the Suweida countryside. The SAA also repelled an attack of the US-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) in the same area.


The US-led forces used Switchblade suicide drones again, and also targeted the SAA positions with Grad rockets south of Zaza.

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It became clear that the presence of the FSA in this area is to keep threatening Damascus and to prevent the SAA from capturing the Iraqi border area and thus securing the unity of Syrian territory.

So far, the FSA has faced little clashes with ISIS. In turn, it has repeatedly attacked the SAA with a direct US support.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US Coalition - Warning Syrian Army !
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 30, 2017, 04:43:55 am
Activist Post

US Drops Leaflets In Tanf To Warn Syrian Military Not To Advance, Orders Retreat

May 29, 2017
By Brandon Turbeville

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/05/us-drops-leaflets-in-tanf-to-warn-syrian-military-not-to-advance-orders-retreat.html


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US Coalition - Warning Syrian Army ! (EG Comments)
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 30, 2017, 04:52:55 am
US is threatening the Syrian Army

This is important, as the Syrian Army will not heed the warnings, because of the strategic significance. This equally applies to the US as they are hell bent on breaking up Syria and installing a Head Chopping Wahhabi Regime, to then go for Iran.

Either one side will blink, or both sides will call the others bluff.

Its my best guess that the ultimate decision will be made in Moscow. Putin is rather conservative, practical, and not inclined to start WW3. Washington is the polar opposite, hungry and desperate as its plan for Syria is rapidly disintegrating. Clutching at straws, because they are loosing the war, they probably think ANY change in the game might rescue the situation.

Hopefully some pragmatic voice in Washington will point out, it just will not work - followed by an agreement to do something punitive like an ineffective Air Strike to "save face".

Oddly enough that pragmatic voice of real politik is most likely Dr Henry Kissinger . . .
Can’t believe I just said that ?
Me too.

Its a mad, mad, world.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Message from Russia with Love
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 31, 2017, 10:57:56 am
Message from Russia with Love

Drone footage shows Russian cruise missiles hit ISIS positions near Palmyra (VIDEO)

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Battle Of Eastern Ghouta
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 31, 2017, 11:05:08 am
May 19, 2017

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? "Libya’s chaos perfect for exporting weapons to ISIS Syria"
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 31, 2017, 11:08:48 am
RT

'Libya’s utterly predictable chaos perfect for exporting weapons & jihadists into Syria'

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/389981-libya-chaos-tripoli-unrest/

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Obama’s biggest mistake was the invasion of Libya; Gaddafi was right when he warned that the overthrow of the government would lead to terrorist attacks in Europe, Daniel McAdams, executive director at the Ron Paul Peace Institute, says.


READ MORE
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/389981-libya-chaos-tripoli-unrest/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Message from Russia with Love
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 31, 2017, 11:14:01 am
Message from Russia with Love

Russian frigate & submarine fire 4 cruise missiles at ISIS targets near Palmyra – MoD

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 31 : Tensions Grow As ISIS Collapses In Syria & Iraq
Post by: EvadingGrid on May 31, 2017, 03:31:30 pm

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Syrian War Report – May 31, 2017: Tensions Grow As ISIS Collapses In Syria And Iraq




https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-may-31-2017-us-led-coalition-panics-as-isis-collapses-in-syria-and-iraq/
The US-led coalition and US-backed forces are on full alert over the collapse of ISIS in the Syrian province of Aleppo and the success of the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) against the terrorist group at the Iraqi border with Syria.

The Kurdish Security Police of the Asayish held a meeting on Monday in Qamishli city to discuss the formation of a defence system ‘to confront the Iranian project’ that is allegedly supported by by the Syrian government. In other words, the Asayish is concerned that a part of the Syrian-Iraqi border was liberated from ISIS by the PMU.

The Asayish is a 15,000-strong force controlled by the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD). At the same time, the People’s Protection Units (YPG) and the Women’s Protection Units (YPJ) that are the core of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are military wings of the PYD. Thus, the Asayish statement could be considered as an official position of the PYD and the SDF.

Furthermore, the Asayish was involved in heavy clashes against the National Defense Forces and the Syrian Army in the city of Hasakah in August 2016. The Asayish was supported by the YPG and the US-led coalition.

The US-backed force has also increased its activity on the southern bank of Euphrates capturing the villages al-Mushayrifah, Bir Akhu Hadlah, Bir al-David and Bir Hajj al-Mufazi near Tabqah as well as the Baath Dam and the villages of Hawra, al-Barouda and al-Matiyura south of it. According to some experts, the SDF is aiming to reach the Resafa Crossroads in order to cut off the Salamiyah-Raqqah highway that links up the SAA-held city of Salamiyah with Raqqah, and to expand its presence near the N4 Highway in order to prevent the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces from reaching the province of Raqqah.

The SDF advance followed a collapse of the ISIS defenses in the countryside of Maskanah and a failure of US-backed militant groups to counter government forces in southeastern Syria along the borders with Jordan and Iraq.

Thus, the US-led coalition may even decide to develop the SDF advance in the direction of Deir Ezzor in order to capture Deir Ezzor oil and gas fields on pretext of the battle against ISIS. However, this will be possible only if ISIS units deployed in Raqqah continue keep a defense attitude and avoid counter-attacking advancing SDF units.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 31 : Tensions Grow As ISIS Collapses In Syria & Iraq
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 04, 2017, 03:01:46 pm
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Syrian War Report – June 1, 2017: PMU PREPARING FOR FURTHER ADVANCES IN BORDER AREA


https://southfront.org/iraqi-syrian-war-report-june-1-2017-pmu-preparing-for-further-advances-in-border-area/
The Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) have repelled a large ISIS attack in western Nineveh near the Iraqi-Syrian border.

On Monday, the PMU reached the border with Syria and started digging trenches and preparing positions in order to secure the recently liberated border area and to prepare for a push to liberate villages north of the important ISIS-held town of al-Baaj.

The PMU advance will be actively supported by the Iraqi Air Force. The same approach was implemented during the liberation of Qairawan in May.

If PMU fighters are able to liberate al-Baaj from ISIS, they will significantly expand their control zone along the border with Syria and will set a foothold for possible operations in the direction of Qaim, the Iraqi side of the Syrian al-Bukamal border area.

The successful anti-ISIS operation of the PMU in the border area faced a cold response from US-backed forces in Syria. Kurdish security forces affiliated with the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) declared the PMU a threat to the SDF-held area. Then, reports appeared in pro-SDF media that the US-backed force will not tolerate any kind of corridor between Iran and ‘the Syrian regime’ and will oppose any PMU attempt to enter the Syrian territory.
Meanwhile, sources in US-backed militant groups operating in southeastern Syria revealed that the US-led coalition increased supplies, including vehicles and anti-tank guided missiles, to its proxies operating in the al-Tanf area near the border with Iraq.

On Wednesday, the PMU spokesperson, Ahmed al-Assadi, said “armed troops either from army, al-Hashd al-Shaabi [the PMU] or the army’s elite Counter-Terrorism Service crossing the Iraqi borders requires voting by Iraqi parliament as constitution does not allow intervention in other countries’ affairs.”

However, this statement is just a formal declaration. Fighters of some PMU factions such as Hezbollah al-Nujabaa and the Al-Imam Ali Battalions, are already deployed in Syria.

The campaign in Baaj runs simultaneously with government troop operations in Mosul, the biggest ISIS stronghold in Iraq. Iraqi security forces are working to tighten the siege on ISIS terrorists in Old Mosul and in the nearby areas and are preparing for a final push into the ISIS-held area. The terrorist group is in no-win situation.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - May 31 : Tensions Grow As ISIS Collapses In Syria & Iraq
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 04, 2017, 03:06:49 pm
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Syrian War Report – June 2, 2017: SCORING UP MAY



https://southfront.org/scoring-up-may/


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 2 : Syrian Army Advances In Aleppo & South
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 05, 2017, 08:22:59 am
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Syrian War Report – June 2, 2017: Syrian Army Advances In Eastern Aleppo And Southeastern Desert


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-2-2017-syrian-army-advances-in-eastern-aleppo-and-southeastern-desert/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allies have renewed push against the US-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) in the southeastern Syrian desert. The SAA began advancing in the Al-Dakwa area and Beer Kasab in order to link up in the Zuluf reserve area. The operation followed an FSA advance against government troops on Wednesday when US-backed militants failed to push the SAA from the Zaza triangle. FSA sources blamed Russian airstrikes and pro-Iranian militias for this failure.

In eastern Homs, the SAA advanced on Al-Abbasiya and Al-Sukari southeast of Palmyra, but ISIS members repelled the attack and forced the army to retreat. Russian warplanes and helicopters have bombed ISIS targets near Al-Sukari and Al-Abbasiya, east of the Arak field, and in Sukhnah.

The SAA Tiger Forces have captured the villages of Jadyaa Saghira and Jadyaa Kabira south of the ISIS-held town of Maskana and the Maskana silos. Thus, the SAA isolated the ISIS stronghold from the southern, western and northern directions.

Experts believe that ISIS will be forced to withdraw from the strategic town soon. However, there is always a chance that terrorists decide to defend the town by all means.

Meanwhile, the Syrian Republican Guard has conducted limited attacks against ISIS east of Khanasser, drawing the terrorist group’s attention from Maskana.

Russian warplanes have destroyed three ISIS convoys fleeing Raqqa, the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed in a statement on Thursday. The convoys were attempting to escape from Raqqa in the southern direction on Monday but the Russian Aerospace Forces prevented this. 80 ISIS terrorists were killed and 36 vehicles, 8 fuel trucks and 17 pickups equipped with mortars and machine guns were destroyed.

“The Command of the Russian Air Force group in Syrian Arab Republic warned that any efforts of ISIS’ insurgents to leave Raqqa through the open corridor to Palmyra will be suppressed,” the statement reads.

The ministry added that the US-led coalition and the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are maintaining an open corridor for terrorists south of the city.

In May, the SDF released an official statement denying any allegations that they may allow ISIS members to flee Raqqa and arguing there is info indicating that the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance cooperates with ISIS near Palmyra.

Meanwhile, the SDF captured ath-Thadyayn near the Baath Dam south of Raqqa. Clashes have reportedly continued in the Baath Dam itself as claims of the pro-SDF sources that it had been fully retaken appeared to be untrue.
According to opposition sources, the SDF began negotiations with ISIS members suggesting them to withdraw from the dam and the nearby villages. The same approach was implemented in Tabqa and in the Tabqa Dam where terrorists accepted an open corridor deal.

ISIS also released statements claiming that some 23 Kurdish fighters have been killed in the recent clashes in the Raqqa countryside.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 2 : US new base inside Syria
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 05, 2017, 08:42:18 am
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US-LED COALITION SET UP NEW BASE AT SYRIAN-IRAQI BORDER (PHOTOS, VIDEO)


https://southfront.org/us-led-coalition-set-up-new-base-at-syrian-iraqi-border/

The US-led coalition has set up a new military base in Al-Zkuf, 70 km north-east of Al-Tanf near the Syrian-Iraqi border. According to the US-led coalition, the aim of the base is to fight ISIS. The base is located in 130 km from the city of Al-Bukamal in the province of Deir Ezzor. A US-backed militant group, Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra will be involved in the effort.

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The US Special Operations Forces as well as units from other US-led coalition member states continued training Free Syrian Army (FSA) members in the Al-Tanf base. The aim is to prepare for an attack on ISIS in the city of Al-Bukamal. However, the FSA has so far prefered launching attacks on the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) in the desert of Damascus.

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On the other side, the SAA still maintains positions in 40 kilometers from the Al-Tanf base, as shown in a video posted on Saturday.




According to several pro-government sources, the SAA is still planning to advance to capture the Al-Tanf base in the nearest possible opportunity.

The real purpose of new US-led coalition base in Al-Zkuf is to prevent the SAA advance aimed at reaching the Syrian-Iraqi border. The Iraqi government as well as the Popular Mobilization Units may support Damascus’ counter-terrorism efforts in Syria.

This may also contribute to preventing Iran from transfering weapons to Hezbollah in Lebanon, This is an Israeli demand.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Russian - SU22 - SHOTDOWN !
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 05, 2017, 08:50:24 am
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SU-22 WARPLANE CRASHED IN SOUTHERN SYRIAN DESERT (PHOTOS)


https://southfront.org/su-22-warplane-crashed-in-southern-syrian-desert-reports/


The US-backed Jaysh Usud al-Sharqiya (Lions of the East Army) militant group claimed on Monday that a Su-22 warplane of the Syrian Air Force crashed in the southern Syrian desert.

The incident allegedly took place in the Dakwa area eastern Qalamoun located close to the area where US-backed militant groups and the Syrian Army are competing for control over the border with Jordan and Iraq.

According to reports, the Su-22 pilot was able to eject from the warplane and the both sides are now searching him.

UPDATE [15:03 CET]: Further reports argued that the warplane turned to be a MiG-23BN. The pilot reportedly died. However, there has been no comments from the Syrian Defense Ministry so far.

Alleged photos from the crash site:

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 5 : Maskanah Is Liberated, Army Moves To Raqqa Provi
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Syrian War Report – June 5, 2017: Maskanah Is Liberated, Army Moves To Raqqa Province


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-5-2017-maskanah-is-liberated-army-moves-to-raqqa-province/


Syrian government forces, led by the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces, have achieved a major victory in the battle against ISIS in eastern Aleppo. Late on Friday, the Tiger Forces encircled the ISIS stronghold of Maskanah and took control over the N4 highway. On Saturday, army troops liberated Maskanah itself and started removing mines and IEDs set up by terrorists in the area. A majority of ISIS terrorists had withdrew from the town in the direction of Palmyra, according to local sources.

Separately, units of Liwa al-Quds and the Republican Guard advanced east of Khansser and captured the Alam hill and the nearby points.

A contact line between government forces and the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces will likely be established south of Dibsi Afnan. Then, the SAA may continue developing advance expanding a buffer zone along the Ithriyah-Khanasser-Aleppo road.

The liberation of Maskanah also opens additional opportunities for operations against ISIS in the provinces of Homs and Deir Ezzor.

ISIS responded to this with a large advance against the SAA in the city of Deir Ezzor. ISIS units operating had received additional reinforcements, including artillery pieces and military equipment. This allowed them to capture the Panorama roundabout and the Panorama School in the area of the 137th Base. A fierce fighting is ongoing in Tal Umm Abboud and Tal SyriaTel. If the 137th Base falls into hands of ISIS, this may lead to a collapse of government forces defenses in a large part of Deir Ezzor. The situation is critical.

In turn, ISIS has invested a large number of its resources in this operation and if it fails, this may open a road for the government advance on al-Sukhna on the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor highway.

Deir Ezzor and al-Bukamal are located at a strategic highway linking Raqqa and Mosul.  If ISIS wants to keep at least some presence in the Syrian-Iraqi battleground and to get some freedom of operations, it desperately needs to capture the city of Deir Ezzor. This is why many militants redeployed from other fronts, including the ISIS-held area of Iraq and Raqqa are involved in this effort.

Since June 3, it has liberated more than 1400 square kilometers east of Palmyra city. The operation involves large forces of the SAA and its allies armed with dozens of armored vehicles and battle tanks, including modern T-90A battle tanks. The Russian Aerospace Forces and the Syrian Air Force support the operation.

ISIS claimed that 21 Syrian soldiers were killed by a VBIED attack in the Abbasiya area. 14 Syrian soldiers were reportedly killed in a suicide attack in Al-Gharb hills. ISIS destroyed a battle tank of the SAA near Al-Mahaor with an ATGM, and targeted a gathering of soldiers there with an ATGM, allegedly killing five soldiers. The casualties of ISIS forces in the area are unknown.

The US-led coalition has set up a new military base in at the Syrian-Iraqi border. The base is located at Al-Zkuf, 70 km northeast of Al-Tanf and 130 km south of the ISIS-held town of Al-Bukamal. The declared goal is to assist US-backed militant groups, like Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra, in their battle against ISIS.

Meanwhile, US-backed militants have continued their attacks against government troops in the southeastern desert. However, they have achieved no notable results. The SAA maintains positions in about 40-45 kilometers from Al-Tanf.

The situation is also escalating in the city of Daraa as government forces have deployed reinforcements in order to prevent further militant advances in the provincial capital. The army has launched an intense bombing campaign against Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and its allies in the area. Government forces also conducted few counter-attacks.  According to some pro-government sources, the army may launch a military operation in order to liberate the whole city. However, this looks too optimistic, considering the situation in Deir Ezzor and near Palmyra.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 06, 2017, 04:28:40 am
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Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-23

Sukhoi Su-17 ( Arab Su-22 Export)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-17
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 6 : ISIS Advancing In Deir Ezzor
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 07, 2017, 04:04:08 am
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Syrian-Iraqi War Report – June 6, 2017: ISIS Advancing In Deir Ezzor


https://southfront.org/syrian-iraqi-war-report-june-6-2017-isis-advancing-in-deir-ezzor/

The Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) have liberated nine more villages from ISIS near the recently liberated town of al-Baaj at the border with Syria.

The PMU liberated Tuman, Raqba al-Faras, Tali’a al-Markab, Khurba al-‘Ridha, Bir ‘S’ebi, Sherji al-Rawi, Hamad Madlul, ‘Lia, and Marzuga.

According to different sources, from 35 to 47 ISIS members died in the recent clashes. The PMU also destroyed 4 VBIEDs and captured a T-72 battle tank and 3 vehicles equipped with 23mm guns.

The Badr Organization, one of the PMU factions, also released a statement adding that the al-Waleed border crossing located in the Iraqi province of Anbar is a strategic target of the PMU advance.

The PMU border operation against ISIS may contribute to anti-terrorist efforts in Syria and will impact positively a possible government advance on the city of Deir Ezzor besieged by ISIS terrorists.

Earlier this week ISIS terrorists in Deir Ezzor received large reinforcements and now they are attacking government troops in the area. The goal is to capture the strategic 137th Base that is a key army defense site south of Deir Ezzor. ISIS terrorists are clashing with the Syrian army for key hills near the Panorama Roundabout.

The Syrian Army Tiger Forces continued crushing ISIS in the province of Aleppo. They have liberated a number of points south of Maskanah, including the villages of Rasm Falah, al-Bakri, Al-Jawim, and Khirbat Shuwaym. Most likely, the advance will further develop in order to clear the whole province from ISIS terrorists.

Separately, the army liberated the villages of al-Hijanah and Rasm al-Tina from ISIS near the town of Ithriyah. Government troops also attacked ISIS units near Barghutiyah located east of the government-held city of Salamiyah. A success in this area may allow government forces to clear from terrorists the road between Salamiyah and the Tiyas Airbase.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have captured a large number of villages, including Shayb al-Awaj, Mazraat Qahtaniyah, al-Adnaniyah, Bir al-Hashim and Sukhuriyah, Khatuniyah, Hawi Hawa, and Mazraat Rabia, in the western countryside of Raqqah.

Local sources reported that there had been almost no ISIS members in the area. Most likely, the terrorist group is now able to defend only its self-proclaimed capital. Furthermore, many ISIS members had been redeployed from Raqqah for the operation in Deir Ezzor.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US attacks Syrian Govt Forces !! shh.....
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 07, 2017, 06:58:31 am
David Icke

US-led coalition destroys pro-government forces within deconfliction zone in Syria – Pentagon

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 7 JUNE 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/414761/us-led-coalition-destroys-pro-government-forces-within-deconfliction-zone-syria-pentagon

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‘The US-led coalition inside Syria says that it has destroyed pro-government forces that entered the deconfliction zone established by the United States and Russia around a coalition training facility. The coalition last struck a pro-government convoy in the area on May 18.

“The Coalition destroyed additional pro-Syrian regime forces that advanced inside the well-established deconfliction zone in southern Syria,” said a statement from the US Central Command.

“The Coalition does not seek to fight Syrian regime or pro-regime forces but remains ready to defend themselves if pro-regime forces refuse to vacate the deconfliction zone.”’


Read more: US-led coalition destroys pro-government forces within deconfliction zone in Syria – Pentagon (https://www.rt.com/news/391150-coalition-strike-syria-forces/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US attacks Syrian Govt Forces !! shh.....
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LAVROV DENOUNCES US CLAIMS ON DE-CONFLICTION ZONE IN SOUTHEASTERN SYRIA


June 7 2017
https://southfront.org/lavrov-denounces-us-claims-de-confliction-zone-southeastern-syria/

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Russia considers the US-led coalition actions against pro-government forces in Syria an act of aggression and rejects the justification for the Tuesday attack issued by the Pentagon, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Wednesday.


“Of course, this is an aggressive act, which violates the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic and which voluntarily or involuntarily targeted those forces that represent the most effective forces struggling with terrorists on the ground. This causes our concern,” the Russian state-run news agency quoted (http://tass.com/politics/950301) Lavrov as saying. “There was information and I believe that it was close to reality that these pro-government forces were advancing to the relevant area to prevent the destruction of two bridges linking Syria with Iraq.


The Pentagon justified the attack on government forces saying that they were advancing inside some kind of de-confliction zone (https://southfront.org/us-led-coalition-air-force-bombed-government-troops-southern-syria/).

Lavrov rejected this claim.

“I don’t know anything about such zones. This must be some territory, which the coalition unilaterally declared [de-confliction zone] and where it probably believes to have a sole right to take action. We cannot recognize such zones,” the minister said.

Earlier this year, Russia, Turkey and Iran signed a deal to establish de-confliction zones in several parts of Syria. This effort was coordinated with the Syrian government. However, no de-confliction zone was establsihed in the area claimed by the US.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US attacks Syrian Govt Forces !! shh.....
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 07, 2017, 08:04:25 am
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LAVROV DENOUNCES US CLAIMS ON DE-CONFLICTION ZONE IN SOUTHEASTERN SYRIA


June 7 2017
https://southfront.org/syria-allies-command-center-threatens-us-backed-forces-retaliation-strike/

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On Wednesday, the Hezbollah media wing in Syria released another statement of “the joint commander center” of Syria’s allies. (more about the center could be found HERE (https://southfront.org/iran-russia-and-their-allies-say-us-missile-strike-on-syria-air-base-crosses-red-lines/) and HERE (https://southfront.org/kremlin-not-aware-about-joint-iranian-syrian-russian-statement-on-us-crossing-red-lines-overview-of-situation/))

In the released statement, the joint command center (consisting of Lebanese Hezbollah and other pro-government groups, including some from Iraq) declared a readiness to relatate to the US-led coalition agression, including striking US troops positions near At Tanf at the Syrian-Iraqi border.

The statement described the US-led coalition actions as a signal of supporting of terrorism in Syria and said that pro-government forces have capabilities to strike the area with rockets and other means.

According to the statement, Damascus didn’t react to the Tuesday attack thanks to a high level of the self-control. However, the retaliation strike will be inevitable if the US and its allies cross the red line.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Omran returns to no fanfare - wrong narrative
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 07, 2017, 08:22:06 am
David Icke

Omran returns to no fanfare from Western media that exploited him as it turns out

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 7 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/414758/omran-returns-no-fanfare-western-media-exploited-turns-family-support-assad

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‘Omran has been found alive and well in East Aleppo. Syrian & Lebanese media have been interviewing the father of Omran Daqneesh the traumatized boy that graced the covers of virtually every media outlet in August 2016.

Omran’s bewilderment reduced news anchors to tears and tipped the world over the edge of rational thought and into the realms of sentimentalized chaos. To the West, he became the symbol of intervention. We almost went to war over Omran.’


Read more: Omran returns to no fanfare from Western media that exploited him as it turns out his family support Assad (http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/06/06/aleppo-the-return-of-omran-to-no-fanfare-from-western-media/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 7 : BATTLE FOR RAQQAH STARTED
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 08, 2017, 02:52:55 pm
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SYRIAN WAR REPORT – JUNE 7, 2017: BATTLE FOR RAQQAH STARTED


https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-7-2017-battle-for-raqqah-started/

Late on June 6, the US-led coalition once again bombed pro-government forces in the area of At Tanf in southern Syria near the border with Iraq. According to the coalition statement, warplanes targeted a group of over 60 soldiers with battle tanks, technical vehicles and artillery pieces “posing a threat to Coalition and partner forces based at the At Tanf Garrison”. The airstrikes reportedly destroyed two artillery pieces, an anti-aircraft weapon and damaged a battle tank.

This was the second time when the coalition’s airpower bombed government forces in the area and a uncountable time when US-backed proxies preferred to combat the Syrian army and its allies instead of ISIS. The coalition previously struck a pro-government convoy in the area on May 18. It also has two military facilities in the border area: one is near At Tanf and other is near Al-Zquf.

Thus, the new coalition strategy is to use US troops as a buffer in order to prevent Damascus forces from reaching the border.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) declared a start of the storm of the ISIS-held city of Raqqah. According to the SDF spokesman, Talal Silo, the SDF will storm the city from the northern, western and eastern direction. Thus, the SDF claims that it is going to prevent ISIS terrorists from fleeing to the south have proven to be untrue.

Following the announcement, the SDF captured the Naznah and al-Mashalab areas in the eastern part of Raqqah and attacked the Harqalah area west of it. The remaining ISIS fighters, many of them had been redeployed to Deir Ezzor and Homs provinces, will concentrate their defenses in the center of Raqqah.

The George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group has resumed strike missions against ISIS targets from eastern Mediterranean, the US Navy said in a statement at its website on June 6. The Raqqah storm is ongoing amid endless military strikes by the coalition airpower and artillery. The US Special Forces also play an important role in the operation.

The Syrian Army Tiger Forces continued advancing against ISIS south of Maskanah and liberated the villages of Sulayhiyah, Khirbat al-Muftahiyah, Khirbat Muhsin, Khirbat al-Hassan, Khirbat as Sab and Tarfawi. Near the town of Ithriyah, government troops captured the area of Maksar ash Shamali. Summing up these developments, some experts say that the army and its allies may attempt to reach the Ithriyah-Tabqa road south of the SDF-held area.

In the city of Deir Ezzor, government forces have repelled the ISIS advance in the Panorama Roundabout area and stabilized the defense line. However, the situation remains tense.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 8 : Situation Report
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 08, 2017, 02:58:46 pm
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SYRIAN-IRAQI WAR REPORT – JUNE 8, 2017: PMU LIBERATED OVER 3,500KM2 IN WESTERN IRAQ


https://southfront.org/iraqi-syrian-war-report-june-8-2017-pmu-liberated-over-3500km2-in-western-iraq/

The Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) are rapidly advancing against ISIS terrorists in the border area with Syria.

Since the start of the Operation of Muhammad the Second Messenger of Allah the PMU has liberated about 3,500 km2 and over 110 villages from ISIS terrorists in western Iraq.  Now, the PMU is clearing area southwest of the recently liberated town of al-Baaj.

Iraqi security forces have been putting pressure on terrorists in the remaining ISIS-held area of western Mosul. However, ISIS keeps a fierce resistance to the advancing government forces.  Eleven Iraqi soldiers were killed in an explosion of a booby-trapped house in al-Zanjili.

Meanwhile, the leadership of the autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan Region announced that the region will hold a referendum on independence on September 25th, 2017.  Iraqi Kurdistan gained autonomous governance based on the 2005 constitution.  It has own armed force called Peshmerga. If the independence referendum takes place, it may lead to further destabilization of Iraq and the whole Middle Eastern region.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are storming the ISIS-held city of Raqqah. After the first gains, SDF units faced some resistance from ISIS terrorists and now they are engaged in an intense fight in the eastern and western parts of the city.

The Syrian Army and its allies have captured the Zenobia Resort located 4 km east of the Al-Sukkari quarries and the Tal Al-Fari area 30km east of Swanih village near Palmyra.  They have also taken control of the strategic Mustadirah mountain chain near the village of Arak.

Some pro-government sources argue that this was the first sign of a wider advance in the direction of Deir Ezzor.  However, this still has to be confirmed. According to available information, the Syrian military does not have enough manpower in the area to launch the operation right now. Liwa al-Quds fighters actively participate in this campaign.



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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - USA - AIRSTRIKES ON SYRIAN ARMY - WTF ?
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 08, 2017, 03:06:08 pm
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US-LED COALITION ONCE AGAIN CARRIED OUT AIRSTRIKES ON SYRIAN ARMY (PHOTOS)

On Thursday, US-led coalition warplanes destroyed a technical vehicle and an armoured vehicle of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) in the Khibrat al-Shami area at the Damascus – Baghdad highway, 40 km away from Al-Tanf.


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According to the statement of the US-led coalition, a medium-sized unmanned aerial vehicleof one of the SAA allies targeted a position of the US-led coalition in Al-Zakaf.  After this US coalition warplanes downed the UAV in north of Al-Tanf. The drone appears to be an Iranian-made Shahhed-129.

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This was the third US-led coalition attack against the SAA and its allies in the Syrian desert. The US-led coalition claims thatSyrian forces pose a threat to its base in Al-Tanf, and that the base is a temporary base established to fight ISIS only. However, so far the US-led coalition and the Free Syrian Army (FSA) have attacked the SAA only in southeastern Syria.

Meanwhile, groups of the US-backed FSA launched a large-scale attack on SAA positions in the northern Suweida countryside and claimed to have taken full control of the Al-Zuluf reserve. If confirmed, that SAA lost a major part of its positions in northern Suweida. However, the FSA has not yet provided any real evidence of its claims.

In the Damascus desert, the SAA captured the entire area of Al-Dakwah, thus deploying in 40 kilometers from its positions south of Zaza Road. Moreover, SAA managed to reopen the road connecting Al-Dakwah to the electric station in the Damascus countryside.

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 8 : US-LED COALITION AIRSTRIKES IN AT TANF AREA
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 08, 2017, 03:16:37 pm

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VIDEO: MILITARY EQUIPMENT OF GOVERNMENT FORCES DESTROYED BY US-LED COALITION AIRSTRIKES IN AT TANF AREA


https://southfront.org/video-military-equipment-of-government-forces-destroyed-by-us-led-coalition-airstrikes-in-at-tanf-area/


The Russian state-run news agency ‘Rossiya 24’ has released a video from the site of the US-led coalition airstrike on Syrian government forces near the area of At Tanf at the Syrian-Iraqi border.

According to the official coalition statement, the airstrikes destroyed two artillery pieces, an anti-aircraft weapon and damaged a battle tank.

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 9 : Syrian Army Advancing In Raqqah
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 09, 2017, 08:53:36 am
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https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-9-2017-syrian-army-advancing-in-raqqah-province/


Syrian War Report – June 9, 2017: Syrian Army Advancing In Raqqah Province


ISIS terrorists have lost large chunks of territories to Syrian government forces in the provinces of Raqqa and Homs.

In the province of Raqqa, the Syrian Army’s Tiger Forces reached the area controlled by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) west of Tabqa after liberating about two dozens of villages, including Rumthan, Bir Mulayhan, Shatnah, al-Qusur, al-Muhaddad, Jubb al-Khafi and Husayn al-Mikhallaf, south of Maskanah.

The government forces made this advance after a full withdrawal of ISIS members from the area. Now, the Tiger Forces are able to develop momentum in the direction of the Ithriyah-Tabqa road, further clearing areas east of Khanasir. This will allow to shorten the frontline and to set a foothold for the operation against ISIS at the Salamiyah-Palmyra road.

The army expansion in the Raqqa province may also push the SDF to encircle the ISIS-held provincial capital from the southern direction, preventing ISIS from fleeing the besieged city.

In the province of Homs, the army liberated the al Abbasiyah area, the Hamamt Zenobia area and the Olayanieh village south of Palmyra. The army advance was massively supported by airstrikes from the Russian and Syrian air forces.

In the Damascus desert, government forces took control over the Dawka area, creating conditions for an advance on Bir Qassab and al-Safa controlled by US-backed militants.

On Thursday, the US-led coalition once again bombed the army and its allies near the area of at-Tanf. The airstrikes destroyed technical vehicles in the Khibrat al-Shami area at the Damascus – Baghdad highway, 40 km away from the US garrison.

According to the statement, coalition warplanes also downed a medium-sized unmanned aerial vehicle that had targeted area near the US-led forces positions. The drone appears to be an Iranian-made Shahhed-129.

Meanwhile, the SDF captured the 17th Division base north of Raqqa and continued developing momentum in the city. According to the US-led coalition, there are about 2,500 ISIS members inside the city.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 9 : Syrian Army Allies - Reach Border with Iraq
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 10, 2017, 05:56:30 am
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SYRIAN ARMY, ALLIES SETTING UP FORTIFICATIONS AT IRAQI BORDER, NORTH OF AT TANF (VIDEOS)



https://southfront.org/syrian-army-allies-setting-fortifications-iraqi-border-north-tanf-videos/

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The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allies are setting up fortifications in the recently liberated area at the border with Iraq.

The Syrian Defense Ministry have released two videos showing SAA troops and fighters of other pro-government factions operating in the area north of the town of At Tanf occupied by the US-led coalition. Government forces are building fortifications in the area and there are little doubts that they are preparing for a possible attack of US-backed militant groups, supported by the coalition’s airpower.

If the SAA and its allies are able to secure this area, they will de-facto win the competition with the US-led block for the Syrian-Iraqi border area. (more about could be found here (https://southfront.org/strategic-implications-of-syrian-government-forces-success-at-border-with-iraq/))


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - June 10 : Strategic Implications !!
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 10, 2017, 06:05:00 am
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STRATEGIC IMPLICATIONS OF SYRIAN GOVERNMENT FORCES SUCCESS AT BORDER WITH IRAQ


https://southfront.org/strategic-implications-of-syrian-government-forces-success-at-border-with-iraq/

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On June 9, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allied militia groups reached the border with Iraq in the area north of the US-led coalition garrison at the village of At Tanf. This advance dramatically changed the strategic situation in southeastern Syria and de-facto allowed the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance to win the race for the border with Iraq.

The key goal of the US-led coalition actions near At Tanf was to prevent the SAA from linking up with the allied Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) operating in Iraq and to build a buffer zone controlled by Western-backed militant groups between the two countries.

The PMU is a major power in Iraq and an official part of the Iraqi Armed Forces. It’s currently conducting a large-scale operating against ISIS terrorists at own side of the border. The June 9 advance destroyed the US-led coalition’s plans.

The government forces deployed north of At Tanf also prevent US-backed proxies from advancing on the ISIS-held border town of al-Bukamal. While the US-led forces in southeastern Syria have never had enough manpower and capabilities to do this, the declared aim to retake al-Bukamal from ISIS was an important part of the US propaganda campaign to justify its illegal presence in the area.

The government deploymen north of At Tan may also be described as a response to actions of another US-backed force, the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in the province of Raqqah. The SDF had made a number of steps near Tabqah blocking the SAA from reaching the Raqqah provincial capital.

Now, government forces in southeastern Syrian forces will likely coordinate its efforts with the PMU in order to clear the Syrian-Iraqi border area and to move to al-Bukamal and Qaim. Iran will also be able to incease supplies to the Syrian government via the opened land route.

Some PMU member groups are already participating in the operations in Syria on the side of the SAA. Now, this number will likely be increased.

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - 'strategic turning point’ in war on ISIS
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 11, 2017, 06:34:31 am
Syrian army reach Iraqi border, announce 'strategic turning point’ in war on ISIS

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 11 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/415329/syrian-army-reach-iraqi-border-announce-strategic-turning-point-war-isis

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‘The Syrian army, in cooperation with its allies, have taken control of a vast territory in southeastern Syria, reaching the border “with friendly Iraq,” Syrian military officials have announced, describing it as a decisive moment in the fight against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).

“This achievement is a strategic turning point in the war on terrorism and a springboard to expand military operations in the Badia [region in southeast Syria] and along the border with the friendly Iraq,” a Saturday statement from the General Command said, as quoted by the state Syrian news agency, SANA.

In cooperation with its allies, the Syrian army reached the border northeast of al-Tanf crossing on Friday evening, the command said in the statement. It added that the move signals the “first stage of the military operations” in the region.

The offensive had been launched south and east of Palmyra, Syrian military officials said. After hundreds of IS terrorists had been killed there, forces proceeded to the Iraqi border, having retaken a large number of strategic points and positions within the territory which covers over 20 square kilometers in Badia.’

Read more: Syrian army reach Iraqi border, announce ‘strategic turning point’ in war on ISIS
 (https://www.rt.com/news/391811-syria-iraqi-border-turning-point/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Syrian-Iraqi Border - Overview
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 13, 2017, 02:31:50 pm
Popular Mobilization Units Operations In Areas Near Syrian-Iraqi Border - Overview

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? – June 12, 2017: Strategic Implications
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 13, 2017, 02:36:24 pm
Syrian War Report – June 12, 2017: Army Reaches Border With Iraq, Strategic Implications

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-12-2017-army-reaches-border-with-iraq-strategic-implications/

On June 9, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allied militia groups reached the border with Iraq in the area north of the US-led coalition garrisons at the village of At Tanf and Al Zquf. This advance dramatically changed the strategic situation in southeastern Syria and de-facto allowed the Syrian-Iranian-Russian alliance to win the race for the border with Iraq.

The key goal of the US-led coalition actions near the border was to prevent the SAA from linking up with the allied Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) operating in Iraq and to build a buffer zone controlled by Western-backed militant groups between the two countries.

The PMU is a major power in Iraq and an official part of the Iraqi Armed Forces. It’s currently conducting a large-scale operating against ISIS terrorists at own side of the border. The June 9 advance destroyed the US-led coalition’s plans.

The government forces deployed north of At Tanf also prevent US-backed proxies from advancing on the ISIS-held border town of al-Bukamal. While the US-led forces in southeastern Syria have never had enough manpower and capabilities to do this, the declared aim to retake al-Bukamal from ISIS was an important part of the US propaganda campaign to justify its illegal presence in the area.

Now, government forces in southeastern Syrian forces will likely coordinate its efforts with the PMU in order to clear the Syrian-Iraqi border area and to move to al-Bukamal and Qaim. Iran will also be able to incease supplies to the Syrian government via a land route. Some PMU member groups are already participating in the operations in Syria on the side of the SAA. Now, this number will likely be increased.

Meanwhile, Jordanian border guards clashed with a convoy consisting 9 cars and 2 motorcycles trying to enter Jordanian territory from the direction of At Tanf. The border guards destroyed 2 cars and 2 motorcycles. The rest of the vehicles retreated. At Tanf town is under a full control of the US-led Coalition and militant groups affiliated with the US-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA).

The people who attempted to infiltrate into Jordanian territory may be a group of FSA who decided to withdraw to Jordan for an unknown reason. It is almost impossible for anyone to move in Al Tanaf without the US-led coalition approval. However, it is also possible that these people were local smugglers.

Following a success at the border with Iraq, the SAA and its allies intensified operations against ISIS in the countryside of Palmyra, retook some points east of the city and attacked ISIS in the Arak area. The mid-term goal of the government operation is to capture the strategic Sukhna town located on the road to Deir Ezzor. The SAA, Hezbollah and other groups had sent reinforcements to the area in order to speed up the operation.

According to reports, ISIS had deployed a large force for another attempt to retake Deir Ezzor from the SAA. The government forces push to Sukhna may be a response to this situation.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition’s airpower and artillery units, are storming the ISIS-held city of Raqqah. A fierce fighting is ongoing in the 17th Division Base, Husaywah and the industrial district near Mashlab.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? – June 14, 2017: Govt Forces Break ISIS Defense Lines
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 15, 2017, 10:51:23 am
Syrian War Report – June 14, 2017: Govt Forces Break ISIS Defense Lines In Raqqah And Homs Provinces

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-14-2017-govt-forces-break-isis-defense-lines-in-raqqah-and-homs/

The Syrian Army Tiger Forces have made a large progress against ISIS terrorists in the province of Raqqah. The Tiger Forces liberated a number of villages, including Jubb Ghanum, Jubb al Abyad, Madakhah, and Bir Inbaj, the Rusafa oil field, the Rusafa junction and reached the Ithriyah-Tabqah road southwest of the area controlled by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

Government forces continued developing momentum in the area and advanced in the direction of Habbari oil field with a wider goal to clear the area east of the Khanasser-Iithriyah road from vestiges of the ISIS force. According to some pro-government sources, the Habbari field and the nearby areas were already liberated by the army. However, there are a lack of photos and videos from the area because of a military censorship imposed by the military.

The gains were achieved amid little clashes with ISIS terrorists. A major part of elite ISIS units had been redeployed to the provinces of Homs and Deir Ezzor.

Meanwhile, the army, the National Defense Forces (NDF), Liwa al-Quds, Hezbollah and other pro-government units, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, broke ISIS defense lines in the countryside of Palmyra and fully captured the Arak town, the Arak field and the T3 Pumping Station.

According to reports, more pro-government units are deploying to Palmyra in order to support the government advance on the ISIS-held town of Sukhna located en route to Deir Ezzor. However, ISIS forces deployed at the Huwaisis village north of the Tiyas Airbase still pose a threat to supply lines of any government force that may advance on Sukhna.

The US military has deployed a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) near At Tanf in southeastern Syria, according to the mainstream media. The system was moved from Jordan. The HIMARS deployment dramatically strengthens the US military presence in the area and poses a direct threat to Syrian government forces deployed northeast of At Tanf. Earlier this month, the army and its allies reached the border with Iraq and started setting up fortifications there. Thus, the both sides are considering a possibility of military escalation at the Syrian-Iraqi border.

The SDF continued clashing with ISIS in the city of Raqqah after the isolation of the terrorist stronghold from the northern, western and eastern directions. The SDF is now in control of Al Jazrah, al-Sinaa, and a part of industrial area south of al-Sinaa.

The SDF operation in Raqqah came amid another escalation between Kurdish SDF units and pro-Turkish militants in northern Aleppo. According to pro-SDF sources, over 30 pro-Turkish militants have been killed in the clashes in the area.

The more the battle for Raqqah takes time, the more opportunities Syrian government forces obtain to reach the city of Deir Ezzor before the US-led coalition decides that it needs to capture this oil rich area by itself.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? – June 15, 2017: Army Captures More Oil Fields In Raqqah
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 15, 2017, 10:55:31 am
Syrian War Report – June 15, 2017: Syrian Army Captures More Oil Fields In Raqqah Province

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-15-2017-syrian-army-captures-more-oil-fields-in-raqqah-province/

On Wednesday, Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra and other groups of the US-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) launched another attack against the Syrian army and its allies in southeastern Syria. According to the FSA, its members attacked government forces at the Zuluf reserve area after killing a number of Syrian troops and destroying some vehicles, including battle tanks. However, the FSA has failed to provide photo or video confirmation of the gains. Pro-government sources denied the claims.

Earlier this week, reports appeared that the US military deployed a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System at its military base in At Tanf and started expanding a military facility at al Zquf.

According to experts, FSA attacks on government forces in southeastern Syria is a common part of the wider US-backed effort aimed to drive the Syrian army and its allies out from the border area with Iraq. The fact that government troops had reached the border with Iraq and linked up with the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units, was a large strategic loss for the US-led coalition. Now, Washington is using its proxies in order to test government defense lines in the area and in the best case to restart attempts to build a militant-held buffer zone between Iraq and Syria.

The Syrian and Iraqi militaries responded to this effort boosting a cooperation in the border area. On June 13, the Chief of Staff of the Iraqi Army General, Osman Al-Ghanmi, met with a high-level delegation from the Syrian Ministry of Defense, headed by the Commander of the Syrian Army Operations Staff. The fight against ISIS, security issues and military coordination were the core of the meeting’s agenda.

In the province of Raqqah, the Syrian Army Tiger Forces liberated the Tawhrah oil fields and the nearby points, pushing towards the village of Resafa. Clashes between government troops and ISIS members were also reported near the Habbari field.

Clashes between Kurdish YPG units and so-called opposition forces continued in northwestern Aleppo. Heavy artillery and mortar shelling were reported in Basoufan and Bashmara near Afrin and an intense fighting near the village of Dara Azza. According to opposition sources, 35 YPG members were killed during the recent escalation. Pro-Kurdish sources claimed that 28 militants of various groups were killed.

Some sources suggest that Ankara may be behind the recent actions of militant groups operating in the area against YPG forces. The goal is to weaken the YPG influence in the area.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 16, 2017US Rocket Artillery Systems Pose Direct Threat
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 16, 2017, 09:35:39 am

Syrian War Report – June 16, 2017: US Rocket Artillery Systems Pose Direct Threat To Govt Forces

The SAA reportedly entered into the Al-Ajrawi farm south of the Tabqah airbase after repelling an attack by ISIS fighters on its new positions in the Raqqah province. Earlier this week, the SAA liberated the Al-Thawra oil field, the Al-Thawra housing and pumping station.

According to pro-government sources, the SAA may continue its advance via the Athria-Rusafa-Raqqa road. If government troops reach Rusafa, they will control the northern road to Deir Ezzor.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition’s airpower, artillery units and military advisers, have taken control of Al-Sinaa district in the eastern part of the ISIS-held city of Raqqah. The SDF also began storming Al-Batani and continued clashing with ISIS in Al-Bared.

Separately, the SDF has captured Hawra Jrayat village and surrounding areas in the Raqqah countryside.

In Daraa city, the SAA and its allies further advanced against militants in the Nazheen camp and captured about a half of it. Clashes were also reported in Al-Manishiyah and Dara’a Al-Balad districts.

In the countryside of Palmyra, clashes between the SAA and ISIS continued near the Arak field. Following the previous gains, government forces captured the SyriaTel Hill that allows to dominate over the nearby positions controlled by ISIS.

The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed on Thursday that the US military has deployed two High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) from Jordan to Syria. The ministry added that these systems cannot provide a support to the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces storming the ISIS stronghold of Raqqah. Instead, they pose a direct threat to government forces.

“The US-led anti-Daesh coalition has several times already attacked Syrian government forces fighting Daesh [ISIS] near the Jordanian border. It is possible to assume that similar strikes could be continued in the future, involving HIMARS from now on. So what objectives is the US pursuing in Syria and whom are the US servicemen fighting there?” the statement read.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - 16 June : MAP
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 16, 2017, 09:37:06 am
June 16

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Title: Re: Syria - BREAKING NEWS FROM KREMLIN
Post by: Al Bundy on Jun 16, 2017, 10:18:46 am
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Russian DM Gen. Shoygu announced that leader of ISIS Al Baghdadi is dead in Raqqa, Syria.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-dead-isis-leader-russia-raqqa-air-strike-killed-syria-islamic-state-chief-a7792801.htmlhttp://
Title: Re: Syria - BREAKING NEWS FROM KREMLIN
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 16, 2017, 11:20:47 am
Russian DM Gen. Shoygu announced that leader of ISIS Al Baghdadi is dead in Raqqa, Syria.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-dead-isis-leader-russia-raqqa-air-strike-killed-syria-islamic-state-chief-a7792801.htmlhttp://

RT

ISIS leader al-Baghdadi reportedly killed in Russia-led airstrike – MoD
Published time: 16 Jun, 2017 07:15

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 The Russian Defense Ministry said on Friday it is checking on information indicating that Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was reportedly killed in a Russia-led airstrike in Syria.

Russian Su-34 aircraft and an Su-35 multirole fighter carried out airstrikes near the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) stronghold of Raqqa in northern Syria on May 28, the ministry said. The strikes targeted a meeting of high-ranking Islamic State chiefs where al-Baghdadi was reportedly present.

The meeting was gathered to plan “routes for the exit of militants from Raqqa through the so-called ‘southern corridor’,” the statement read.




“According to information, which is being checked through various channels, IS leader Ibrahim Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi was also present at the meeting and was killed as a result of the strike,” the ministry said in a statement.

Among those who were killed in the strike were Emir of Raqqa Abu al-Haji al-Masri, Emir Ibrahim al-Naef al-Hajj, “who controlled the district from the city of Raqqa to the settlement of es-Sohne” and IS head of security Suleiman al-Sawah,” the ministry added.

Moscow has given its American partners information about the place and time of the airstrike, the ministry said.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said he can’t fully confirm the death of the IS leader.

“I don’t have 100 percent confirmation of the information concerning the death of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi,” he said at a press conference on Friday.

The US-led anti-Islamic State coalition said it can’t confirm the information that Baghdadi was killed in a Russia-led airstrike.

“We cannot confirm these reports at this time,” Colonel Ryan Dillon, spokesman for Combined Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve (CJTFOIR), said in a statement.

The Pentagon also said that it has “no information to corroborate those reports” on Baghdadi’s death, spokesman Navy Captain Jeff Davis said, as cited by Reuters.

Although numerous media reports have speculated on al-Baghdadi’s death, neither the Pentagon, nor the Iraqi or Syrian militaries have ever confirmed those claims.

The latest report, which came in early June, claimed that the notorious IS leader had been killed in an airstrike in Raqqa. No official confirmation followed, however.

Born Ibrahim Awad Ibrahim al-Badri, al-Baghdadi made his first public appearance back in the summer of 2014, when IS began capturing territory in Iraq and later in Syria.

The terrorist group has repeatedly released messages allegedly sent by Al-Baghdadi calling for the establishment of a world Caliphate.

The US Department of State has designated al-Baghdadi as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT).
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US Black Hawk Helicopter Evacuates Wounded US Special Ops
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 16, 2017, 11:28:47 am
US Black Hawk Helicopter Evacuates Wounded US Special Operations Soldiers From Raqqa – Reports

https://southfront.org/us-black-hawk-helicopter-evacuates-wounded-us-special-operations-soldiers-from-raqqa-reports/

On Fridays, ISIS units attacked positions of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in Al-Jazra district in the western part of the Raqqa city. ISIS claimed that 19 SDF fighters were killed during the clashes in the area.

Moreover, 11 other SDF fighters were reportedly killed after after two suicide attackers blew themselves up at SDF positions in Al-Jazra district.

ISIS also claimed that its snipers killed 2 SDF fighters in the Al-Farousiah area in northwestern Raqqa.

Meanwhile, ISIS attacked SDF gatherings in Al-Sahal village in the southwestern Raqqa countryside. A number of SDF fighters were killed and wounded after being targeted with two ATGMs.

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US-led coalition warplanes continued bombing Raqqa city.

According to opposition sources, a father and his two children lost their life as a result of US-led coalition airstrikes on Raqqa City.

Opposition sources claimed that the SDF is still preventing displaced civilians who have from leaving the temporary camps in the SDF-held area. According to reports, the camps are experiencing very poor humanitarian conditions as a result of the ban imposed by the Kurdish leadership

The Opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) published photos of US Air Force Black Hawk helicopters flying over Raqqa city.

The SOHR claimed that the helicopter transported wounded US Special Operations Forces soldiers who were fighting alongside the SDF in Raqqa city.

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Al Baghdadi dead ?
Post by: Al Bundy on Jun 16, 2017, 12:02:38 pm
Pro-Russian military analyst from Serbia M. Lazanski says that, if the information about the death of al-Baghdadi is confirmed, it will be proof that the Russian operations against ISIS much more efficient than the US.

"It primarily shows that the Russian intelligence system on the territory of Syria better than the US intelligence system. Also, the question of whether Americans really sincerely fighting against ISIS or just feign because I think they have very good intelligence apparatus in this area. What you do not achieve the results that are expected according to their technical and technological capacity is just another confirmation that they actually faking in the fight against terrorism on the territory of Syria and Iraq, "said Lazanski for Sputnik.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Al Baghdadi dead ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 16, 2017, 12:10:03 pm
Pro-Russian military analyst from Serbia M. Lazanski says that, if the information about the death of al-Baghdadi is confirmed, it will be proof that the Russian operations against ISIS much more efficient than the US.

"It primarily shows that the Russian intelligence system on the territory of Syria better than the US intelligence system. Also, the question of whether Americans really sincerely fighting against ISIS or just feign because I think they have very good intelligence apparatus in this area. What you do not achieve the results that are expected according to their technical and technological capacity is just another confirmation that they actually faking in the fight against terrorism on the territory of Syria and Iraq, "said Lazanski for Sputnik.

Lost count how many times he has been killed.

Is the death number 6 ?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Al Baghdadi dead ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 16, 2017, 12:18:02 pm
Lost count how many times he has been killed.

Is the death number 6 ?


5 Days ago  11 June 2017

Experts Skeptical About Reports of Death of al-Baghdadi
https://www.voanews.com/a/experts-skeptical-al-baghdadi-death/3895836.html



Twice in June last year 9th June and 14th June . . . . 2016

U.S, Iraqi officials can't confirm report Islamic State leader wounded
Fri Jun 10, 2016
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-baghdadi-idUSKCN0YW0QT



Has ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi been killed in US air strike? Reports say he has died in Raqqa but no confirmation from coalition
14 June 2016
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640726/ISIS-leader-Abu-Bakr-al-Baghdadi-killed-air-strike-Raqqa-according-pro-Islamic-State-news-agency.html



October last year . . . 2016

Dead at last? ISIS mastermind Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ‘POISONED by mystery assassin’
ISLAMIC State linchpin Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is reportedly suffering from "severe poisoning" after his food was tainted by a mystery assassin.
By Zoe Efstathiou
PUBLISHED: 02:19, Tue, Oct 4, 2016
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/717285/isis-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-poisoned-terrorist-assassin-islamic-state-killing



2 Years ago . . . . 2015

Iranian media: ISIS leader declared 'clinically dead' by Israeli doctors in Golan
ByJPOST.COM STAFF
April 28, 2015 10:52
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iranian-media-Islamic-State-leader-declared-clinically-dead-by-Israeli-doctors-in-Golan-399410



3 Years ago . . . 2014

URGENT: ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi allegedly killed by US airstrikes
by Abdelhak Mamoun
Sep 6, 2014, 8:43 pm
http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/urgent-isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-allegedly-killed-us-airstrikes/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Al Baghdadi dead ?
Post by: Al Bundy on Jun 16, 2017, 12:24:31 pm
Lost count how many times he has been killed.

Is the death number 6 ?

I know. Serbian jornalist Lazanski have good source in Russian Army. As he said "to be confirmed...." ???
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Al Baghdadi dead ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 16, 2017, 12:41:20 pm
I know. Serbian journalist Lazanski have good source in Russian Army. As he said "to be confirmed...." ???

I hear you Al Bundy.

Could not resist documenting some of the times he had been killed.

He is like a Vampire .....
Next time, they should use 'stake through heart'.
Holy Water, Salt and proper Priest to do Exorcism.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US-led coalition shot down Syrian Army Aircraft
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 18, 2017, 03:03:02 pm
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US-led coalition downed Syrian army plane in southern Raqqa - Syrian army statement
https://www.rt.com/news/392941-us-led-coalition-downed-syrian-plane/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US-led coalition shot down Syrian Army Aircraft
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 18, 2017, 03:04:55 pm
US-led coalition downed Syrian army plane in southern Raqqa - Syrian army statement
https://www.rt.com/news/392941-us-led-coalition-downed-syrian-plane/

the statement from facebook auto-translated



Statement by the general command of the army and the armed forces

The oldest flight called the international coalition this afternoon to target one of our fighter planes in the south raqqa region during its execution is a combat mission against ISIS terrorist organization in the area leading to the crash and loss of the pilot.

This blatant attack confirms beyond doubt the fact that the American position in support of terrorism is the object of an attempt to influence the ability of the Syrian Arab army to have the sole power of its allies to combat terrorism throughout the country's territory. This attack comes at a time when the Syrian Arab army and its allies are making clear progress in fighting the terrorist organization of ISIS, which is into in the Syrian golan over a trend.

It also confirms the coordination between the United States of America and ISIS terrorist organization, and exposes the malicious intentions of the United States of America in the management and investment of terrorism to achieve its objectives in passing the American Zionist project in the region.

The General Leadership of the army and the armed forces, warning of the grave consequences of this blatant attack on counter-terrorism efforts, confirms that such attacks will not falter in their determination and determination to continue the war against ISIS and the the and associated groups. To Restore Security and stability to all the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic.

Damascus, 18 June 2017
General command of the army and armed forces
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Russia Responds by locking S300 on US/ISIS Air-Force
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 19, 2017, 02:12:34 pm
The Independent

Russia to treat US jets in Syria as 'targets' after America guns down first regime warplane
Communication channel between Washington and Moscow to be suspended immediately

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-shoot-down-all-flying-objects-in-syria-us-regime-warplane-isis-terror-a7797101.html

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 19, 2017, 02:50:37 pm
I think the US command is getting desperate which is a dangerous situation for all of us.  For them to shoot down a plane means their proxy force is not winning.  The question is will they engineer an event to send actual US soldiers into Syria.   Unfortunately, those who use to expose this type of events will be the most ardent supporters.



Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Jun 19, 2017, 03:01:33 pm
I think the US command is getting desperate which is a dangerous situation for all of us.  For them to shoot down a plane means their proxy force is not winning.  The question is will they engineer an event to send actual US soldiers into Syria.   Unfortunately, those who use to expose this type of events will be the most ardent supporters.

I think they've been getting ready...

Drone Images Expose Major US, Jordan Military Build-up On Syrian Border
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-09/drone-images-expose-major-us-jordan-military-build-syrian-border

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Following reports today that President Trump confirmed US will provide arms directly to The Kurds to fight ISIS,
AlMasdarNews.com reports, Damascus is reportedly on high alert after some 400 American and Jordanian military vehicles
were located at a Jordanian military base near the Syrian desert border earlier today.


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More pictures of the drone surveillance here:

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The tanks are supposedly Jordanian M60 types.

The photos validate previous reports by an Al-Masdar News military source suggesting a major
Jordanian and US buildup at the Syrian border. The military base is located east of Az-Zarqa,
43 km away from the Syrian border.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Satyagraha on Jun 19, 2017, 03:27:27 pm
Israel Has Been Secretly Funding Syrian Rebels For Years
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-19/israel-has-been-secretly-funding-syrian-rebels-years
by Tyler Durden
Jun 19, 2017

Earlier, when discussing (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-19/syrian-rebels-turmoil-after-qatar-crisis) why the Syrian "rebels" fighting Assad are in "turmoil", we said that as a result of the ongoing Qatar crisis the various Saudi and Qatari supply chains supporting the rebels, both in terms of weapons and funding, had dried up due to the diplomatic fallout involving Qatar and Saudi Arabia. "Together with Turkey and the United States, Qatar and Saudi Arabia have been major sponsors of the insurgency, arming an array of groups that have been fighting to topple Syria's Iran-backed president."

We concluded that "the rebellion against Assad now seems moot, which is why the most likely outcome is a continued phase-out of support for forces fighting the Syria government until eventually the situation reverts back to its pre-2011 "status quo."

That, however, may have been premature as it was missing a key piece of data, one which was just revealed by the WSJ and which many had suspected. According to the Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel-gives-secret-aid-to-syrian-rebels-1497813430), Israel and Saudi Arabia have been aligned from the onset of the Syrian conflict, "with Israel supplying Syrian rebels near its border with cash as well as food, fuel and medical supplies for years, a secret engagement in the enemy country’s civil war aimed at carving out a buffer zone populated by friendly forces."

Quote

The Israeli army is in regular communication with rebel groups and its assistance includes undisclosed payments to commanders that help pay salaries of fighters and buy ammunition and weapons, according to interviews with about half a dozen Syrian fighters. Israel has established a military unit that oversees the support in Syria—a country that it has been in a state of war with for decades—and set aside a specific budget for the aid, said one person familiar with the Israeli operation.

This news comes as a major surprise because while it was well known that Israel has provided medical help for Syrian civilians and fighters inside its own borders in the past, with the IDF retaliating to occasional stray rockets in the restive border region with reprisals, it was previously thought that the Israeli authorities largely stay out of the complicated six-year-old conflict next door.

That now appears to have been dead wrong.

“Israel stood by our side in a heroic way,” said Moatasem al-Golani, spokesman for the rebel group Fursan al-Joulan, or Knights of the Golan. “We wouldn’t have survived without Israel’s assistance.”

Al-Joulan is the main rebel group coordinating with Israel, according to fighters. It told the WSJ that Israel's support began as early as 2013 under former Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon, with the goal of creating a ‘buffer zone’ free of radical militants such as Isis and Iranian-allied forces along Israel’s border. A special Israeli army unit was created to oversee the costly aid operation, the WSJ reported, which gives Fursan al-Joulan - Knights of the Golan - an estimated $5,000 (£3,900) a month. The group of around 400 fighters receives no direct support from Western rebel backers, and is not affiliated with the Free Syrian Army, the official rebel umbrella organisation.

The Journal also reports that Israel may be funding up to four other rebel groups which have Western backing. The groups use the cash to pay fighters and buy ammunition.  (continued) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-19/israel-has-been-secretly-funding-syrian-rebels-years)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 19, 2017, 04:08:53 pm
I think the US command is getting desperate which is a dangerous situation for all of us.  For them to shoot down a plane means their proxy force is not winning.  The question is will they engineer an event to send actual US soldiers into Syria.   Unfortunately, those who use to expose this type of events will be the most ardent supporters.

I just wanted to say I think you are going to be proven correct.
Perhaps there is something about Gulag, because a lot of posts round here seem to be rather erringly prophetic.

If we ran a newspaper, we would be 24 hours ahead of our competitors on this story.
Gulag has its good points, and those are its regular members who post here.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jun 19, 2017, 08:47:17 pm
Russia is through with the US (@ the moment Trump).  Russia to start targeting US and other 'coalition' air craft that violate Syria air space

If you think about it.  Trump carried out Hillary's plan for Syria.  Why Trump was a WORSE choice then Hillary is that the sheep who will say nothing WOULD HAVE went ballistic and the MSM would not have been able to protect her.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/no-more-games-russia-vows-track-and-target-any-us-aircraft-west-euphrates/ri20146

The Independent

Russia to treat US jets in Syria as 'targets' after America guns down first regime warplane
Communication channel between Washington and Moscow to be suspended immediately

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-shoot-down-all-flying-objects-in-syria-us-regime-warplane-isis-terror-a7797101.html

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jun 19, 2017, 09:08:51 pm
Russian military halts Syria sky incident prevention interactions with US as of June 19 – Moscow
https://www.rt.com/news/393028-syria-russia-us-plane/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 06:44:33 am
'We will retain the right to self defense' says White House after F-18 blasted Syrian fighter-bomber from the sky -and in teeth of Russian anger at kill

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 20 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416363/will-retain-right-self-defense-says-white-house-f-18-blasted-syrian-fighter-bomber-sky-teeth-russian-anger-kill

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The White House told Russia on Monday that it reserves ‘the right to self defense’ after the Kremlin warned it would track US-led coalition aircraft in Syria as potential ‘targets’ and halted an incident-prevention hotline with Washington after US forces downed a Syrian jet.

‘I think that the escalation of hostilities among the many factions that are operating in this region doesn’t help anybody,’ White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said ‘and the Syrian regime and the others in the regime need to understand that we will retain the right to self defense of coalition forces aligned against ISIS.’

Spicer told a reporter later that he was not saying the US is on the brink of war with Russia amid an escalation in tensions that came after the Syrian government attacked a US-backed group that is fighting ISIS.’

Read more: ‘We will retain the right to self defense’ says White House after F-18 blasted Syrian fighter-bomber from the sky -and in teeth of Russian anger at kill (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4619164/White-House-Russia-retain-right-self-defense.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 06:46:40 am
Israel Secretly Paying Salaries of Syrian Rebels (ISIS, Al Qaeda) on Golan Heights Border - Report

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 20 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416372/israel-secretly-paying-salaries-syrian-rebels-isis-al-qaeda-golan-heights-border-report

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‘Israel is secretly supporting Syrian rebels operating near its occupied Golan Heights territory, providing money, food, fuel and medical supplies, according to fighters who claim to receive the aid.

Israel has previously treated wounded Syrian rebels in its hospitals but interviews with rebels conducted by the Wall Street Journal suggest that Israel is directly supporting opponents of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the six-year-long civil war.

Israel is opposed to the rule of Assad and his forces. It also sees militants belonging to Lebanese militia Hezbollah who support Assad’s regime forces as posing a threat to its security on the Golan Heights border.’


Read more: Israel Secretly Paying Salaries of Syrian Rebels (ISIS, Al Qaeda) on Golan Heights Border – Report (http://www.newsweek.com/israel-secretly-paying-salaries-syrian-rebels-golan-heights-627155)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 06:48:32 am
More Evidence of US Support for ISIS

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 20 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416375/evidence-us-support-isis

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‘Straightaway after Trump’s January 20 swearing in ceremony, a White House statement said defeating ISIS and other terrorist groups is the administration’s “highest priority,” adding:

“To defeat and destroy these groups, we will pursue aggressive joint and coalition military operations when necessary.”

“In addition, the Trump Administration will work with international partners to cut off funding for terrorist groups, to expand intelligence sharing, and to engage in cyberwarfare to disrupt and disable propaganda and recruiting.”

Instead of “defeat(ing) and destroy(ing) these groups,” the Trump administration actively supports them.

Photographic evidence shows ISIS firing US-made TOW-guided anti-tank missiles against government forces.

In last year’s battle for Aleppo, al-Nusra terrorists used these weapons, according to Russian General Sergei Rudskoi – supplied by the Obama administration.’


Read more: More Evidence of US Support for ISIS (http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-evidence-of-us-support-for-isis/5595151)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - BREAKING:
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 20, 2017, 09:24:05 am
BREAKING: US shoots down Iranian drone operating on behalf of Syrian govt in At Tanf
RT
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - VIDEO: IRANIAN MISSILES HIT ISIS TARGETS IN DEIR EZZOR
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 02:02:31 pm
VIDEO: IRANIAN MISSILES HIT ISIS TARGETS IN DEIR EZZOR

https://southfront.org/video-iranian-missiles-hit-isis-targets-deir-ezzor/

A video has appeared online allegedly showing the moment when Iranian missiles hit ISIS terrorist targets in Deir Ezzor.

on Sunday, the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) launched missiles (https://southfront.org/iran-launches-medium-range-ground-ground-missiles-isis-targets-deir-ezzor-sends-signal-us-backed-forces-syria/) from western Iran on ISIS positions and HQs in Deir Ezzor.

According to the IRGC statement, the missiles delivered a notable damage to ISIS manpower and infrastructure.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 19 US Downs Syrian Su-22, Pushes To SAA-SDF Escalation
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 02:05:58 pm
Syrian War Report : June 19 2017 - US Downs Syrian Su-22, Pushes To SAA-SDF Escalation

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-19-2017-us-downs-syrian-su-22-pushes-to-saa-sdf-escalation/

On Sunday, a US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet shot down a Syrian Air Force Su-22 warplane near Ja’Din in the western part of the province of Raqqah. Ja’Din is located in the area south of the town of Tabqah controlled by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

The Su-22 was supporting the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) advance towards the ISIS-held town of Resafa located at the Ithriyah-Resafa-Raqqa road.

“At 6:43pm, a Syrian regime SU-22 dropped bombs near SDF fighters south of Tabqah and, in accordance with rules of engagement and collective self-defense of Coalition partnered forces, was immediately shot down by a US F/A-18E Super Hornet,” the US-led coalition said in a statement on the issue.

In turn, the Syrian Defense Ministry said that the attack was attempt to undermine the SAA effort against ISIS.
The US attack came amid the rapid SAA advance in the Resafa area. With the liberation of Resafa, the SAA controls one of the important roads heading to Deir Ezzor besieged by ISIS terrorists. In this case, the US move is another attempt to draw red lines for the internationally recognized government of Syria. Washington sees successful SAA operations against ISIS as a threat to the US influence in the war-torn country.

Following the incident, the Iranian Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) launched medium-range ground-to-ground missiles at ISIS targets in the Syrian province of Deir Ezzor. According to the IRGC, the missiles were launched from the western Iranian provinces of Kermanshah and Kordestan, flied through Iraq’s airspace and hit terrorists targets in Syria. Iran reportedly used Zolfaqar missiles.

The IRGC statement said that the missile strike was a response to the recent ISIS-claimed terrorist attack in Tehran. However, it’s clear that this missile strike was a message to the US-led coalition and US-backed forces in Syria. The missile strike shows that Iran is capable to conduct a missile strike on joint garrisons of the US-led coalition forces and US-backed militant groups located near the villages of At Tanf and al-Zquf at the border with Iraq.

Meanwhile, according to some sources, sporadic firefights appeared between the SAA and the SDF south of Tabqah after the SDF had opposed government forces attempt to conduct a pilot rescue operation in the area.

Reports also appeared that US-led coalition forces are setting up a military facility in the town of Tabqah. US forces are reportedly aiming to build a command center and residential buildings for its troops. According to opposition sources, the US wants to adopt the new base as a long-term base in Syria.

Despite tensions with the US-led coalition, the SAA continued operations against ISIS in the eastern Hama countryside where government forces liberated Jab al-Saad, Rasm Amoun, Hanita and Hassou al-‘Albawi and continued advancing with aim to shorten the frontline in the area.

The recent events show that the US and its allies lost a tactical initiative in the conflict and now they are attempting to stop ongoing or prevent expected SAA operations in the provinces of Raqqah and Deir Ezzor, and along the border with Iraq.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - VIDEO: SYRIAN ARMY OPERATING AGAINST ISIS TERRORISTS
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 02:10:29 pm
VIDEO: SYRIAN ARMY OPERATING AGAINST ISIS TERRORISTS IN T3 PUMPING STATION AREA

https://southfront.org/video-syrian-army-operating-isis-terrorists-t3-pumping-station-area/

The Syrian Defense Ministry has released a video showing the Syrian Arab Army and its allies operating against ISIS terrorists in the T3 pumping station area southeast of Palmyra in the province of Homs.

Earlier this month, anti-government sources were spreading rumors that the Syrian army retreated from the area. The video of the Syrian Defense Ministry shows that these claims were untrue.



Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 20 - Situation Further Escalates In Syria
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 02:14:35 pm
Syrian War Report : June 20 2017 - Situation Further Escalates In Syria

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-20-2017-situation-further-escalates-in-syria/

The situation escalates in Syria following the US aviation attack against an Su-22 belonging to the country’s national air force.

The Russian Defense Ministry said that the US move may be considered an “act of aggression,” and announced that it is halting all interactions with the US within the framework on the memorandum of incident prevention in Syrian skies.

Now, Russian missile defenses will track any US-led coalition aircraft west of the Euphrates River.

“In areas where Russian aviation is conducting combat missions in the Syrian skies, any flying objects, including jets and unmanned aerial vehicles of the international coalition discovered west of the Euphrates River will be followed by Russian air and ground defenses as air targets,” the ministry announced.

At the same time, the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) also joined the blame game by attempting to justify the act of aggression.

SDF Spokesman, Talal Selo, announced that Syrian government forces “have mounted large-scale attacks using planes, artillery, and tanks” against the SDF in the province of Raqqah.  Selo threatened the Syrian Army with retaliation if government forces attack the SDF again.  However, the SDF representative was not able to provide any info about these “large-scale attacks.”  Furthermore, no local sources reported such attacks in recent days, reducing the claim to mere propaganda on the part of the US-led campaign against Damascus.

Meanwhile, SDF units reportedly killed about 10 ISIS members and destroyed 2 ISIS vehicles.

The Syrian army and its allies launched attacks against ISIS from Ithriyah in the direction of Resafa, aiming to clear the road linking these [two] towns.

If government troops link up with their allies south of Tabqah, they will strengthen positions of army troops in the western part of Raqqah province.  This will allow the clearing of area east of Khansir from the vestiges of ISIS forces in order to boost security of the strategic Ithriyah-Khanasir-Aleppo road.

In the Palmyra countryside, government forces attacked ISIS positions east of the T3 pumping station and near the Arak area.  Heavy clashes are ongoing. ISIS terrorists are attempting to prevent the progress of government forces towards Deir Ezzor.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US FIGHTER JET DOWNED IRANIAN-MADE ARMED DRONE OVER SYRIA
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 02:18:01 pm
US FIGHTER JET DOWNED IRANIAN-MADE ARMED DRONE OVER SYRIA – REPORTS

https://southfront.org/us-fighter-jet-downed-iranian-armed-drone-syria-reports/

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A US F-15 fighter jet has reportedly downed an Iranian-made armed drone (allegedly Shahed 129) in the area near the town of At Tanf in southeastern Syria, according to media reports.

At Tanf is controlled by the US-led coalition. US troops stationed there allegedly train opposition fighters to “combat ISIS.” However, according to experts, the coalition uses the area in order to oppose the Syrian government attempting to restore control over the borders with Iraq and Jordan.

According to CNN, the US-led coalition “believed” that the drone was a threat to coalition forces.

If confirmed, this was the second Iranian-made armed drone downed by the coalition in the area. The previous incident took place earlier in June when the coalition was attempting to stop the government advance in the border area with some airstrikes.

Despite this, the Syrian army and its allies reached the border with Iraq northeast of At Tanf.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? MORE DETAILS APPEAR ABOUT US ATTACK AGAINST SYRIAN SU-22
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 20, 2017, 02:19:34 pm
MORE DETAILS APPEAR ABOUT US ATTACK AGAINST SYRIAN SU-22

https://southfront.org/more-details-appear-about-us-attack-against-syrian-su-22/

According to a source in the Syrian Arab Air Force (SyAAF), Lieutenant Colonel Ali Fahd took off in the afternoon of June 18 from the T4 airbase east of Homs.

From an older video we know that the warplane is a Soviet made ground attack Su-22M4 with the serial number “3224”.



According to our source the Su-22M4 was loaded with six general purpose OFAB 250-270 bombs. Ali Fahd’s mission was to strike ISIS fighters and vehicles attempting to withdrew from Rusafah in the province of Raqqah towards Sukhnah in the province of Homs and Oqerbat in the eastern Hama countryside – near Ali Fahd’s home town of Salamyiah. Connection with Ali Fahd was lost after reaching the operation area over Rusafah.

From the other end of the story Mary Walash, a CBS producer, said that US Navy A/F-18E Super Hornet fired two missiles at the Syrian warplane. It had to fire a second missile after the first missed.

According to Walash’s story, the engagement range was below 6 miles meaning that mostly the A/F-18E used the IR guided AIM-9.

Probably it used the AIM-9X variant that was introduced on the A/F-18E of the US Navy in 2007. The US introduced the AIM-9X as an extremely advanced short range air-to-air missile designed to overtake high maneuverable Soviet and Russian warplanes from the MiG-29 and Su-27 families.

However, Ali Fahd was able to dodge the first missile and even the second exploded near Ali Fahd’s Su-22M4 –due to the Laser\IR fuze in the AIM-9X – and was not able to hit it directly according to Walash.

It’s fair to say that Lieutenant colonel Ali Fahd did everything he could in his cold war era warplane that got no radar (it’s a ground attack warplane). It’s also fair to say that the US pilot weapon chose was essential for his success as Ali Fahd’s plane is not equipped with an IR\UV Warning Sensor.

However it got a Radar Warning Sensor. If the US pilot chose to use the AIM-120 with active radar guidance, Ali Fahd would have known that he is being targeted and the F/A-18E would have lost the element of surprise.

Furthermore, losing connection with Ali Fahd allows to suggest that his communications may had been jammed right before he was downed. SF was not able to receive info if Ali Fahd preformed any airstrike against ISIS before being hit. As connection was jammed it may mean Ali Fahd’s warplane was downed even before dropping a single bomb. This supports the version provided by the Syrian government and the pro-opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights that said Ali Fahd’s Su-22M4 never attacked positions of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

According to Ali Fahd’s relative Al-Masdar News reporter, Majd Fahed, Ali Fahd was captured by the SDF and Tiger Forces Leader General Suheil Al-Hassan is negotiating with SDF in order to free Ali Fahd.

The SDF side has released no official comments on the situation. However, SDF sources confirmed that Ali Fahd was captured by the SDF suggesting that the group will release him in the end.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jun 20, 2017, 08:46:42 pm
More Evidence of US Support for ISIS

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 20 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416375/evidence-us-support-isis

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‘Straightaway after Trump’s January 20 swearing in ceremony, a White House statement said defeating ISIS and other terrorist groups is the administration’s “highest priority,” adding:

“To defeat and destroy these groups, we will pursue aggressive joint and coalition military operations when necessary.”

“In addition, the Trump Administration will work with international partners to cut off funding for terrorist groups, to expand intelligence sharing, and to engage in cyberwarfare to disrupt and disable propaganda and recruiting.”

Instead of “defeat(ing) and destroy(ing) these groups,” the Trump administration actively supports them.

Photographic evidence shows ISIS firing US-made TOW-guided anti-tank missiles against government forces.

In last year’s battle for Aleppo, al-Nusra terrorists used these weapons, according to Russian General Sergei Rudskoi – supplied by the Obama administration.’


Read more: More Evidence of US Support for ISIS (http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-evidence-of-us-support-for-isis/5595151)

GLOBALIST CONTROLLED ISRAEL WORKING WITH ISIS TO TRAFFIC HUMAN ORGANS OF CHILDREN?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/12/09/israeli-mafia-trafficking-syrian-childrens-body-organs/

Israeli mafia trafficking Syrian children’s body organs
By Ian Greenhalgh on December 9, 2016
Supporting Israel's illegal organ transplant/tourism industry: Syrian children abducted from Idlib trafficked south to that "special state"

Ahlulbayt News Agency
Israeli mafia trafficking Syrian children’s body organs

The Arabic-language Al-Hadath news website quoted the sources as saying that some specific groups that have trained medics have kidnapped the children, mutilated their body organs and then left their corpses in remote areas or buried them.

According to them, an Israeli officer in Turkey is waiting for the children’s organs to be transferred to the black market for transplantation.

The sources said that the medical teams of these groups have anesthesiologists, surgeons and a number of armed forces who abduct children and transfer them to safe areas for surgery in brand-new and fully equipped
ambulances.

Earlier reports, in November, also said that the children who have been rescued from the camps of Abdullah Muhammad al-Muhaysini, a senior al Qaeda-linked cleric and the religious leader of Jeish al-Fatah terrorist group, are now threatened with the danger of trafficking their body organs by the terrorists.

Local sources in Idlib province told al-Akhbar newspaper that during the past two weeks, 15 people have been kidnapped from different districts, most of them children.

Also, social media activists have released tens of messages and warned the Idlib residents of the possibility of abduction of their children and trafficking of their body organs by the terrorist groups, saying that most of the kidnapped children have been transferred to Turkey.

Local sources in several districts of Idlib have reported that over 10 children have been abducted in different parts of the province, including Kafarouma, Jidar Bekalfoun, Atma, Jisr al-Shaqour and al-Fayqa by the militants.

Also, a local source in Sarmada town North of Idlib said that “a number of militants driving a white van abducted a 10-year-old child but they faced the residents’ resistance and were arrested but sources said that they were freed from Fatah al-Sham (formerly known as al-Nusra) prison the same day”.

According to reports, the exacerbation of security situation in Idlib has forced the residents to flee to Hama province in fear of their children’s lives.

According to the report, the ISIL terrorists set up a medical team in Mosul headed by a German physician which exports the body organs to Syria and the Iraqi Kurdistan region for transplantation to its members or selling.

Iraqi Ambassador to the United Nations Mohamed Alhakim had made the same revelations last year, saying that the ISIL terrorists are trafficking human organs and executed a dozen doctors for failing to go along with the program.

Alhakim based his claim on the discovery of dozens of bodies left in shallow mass graves near the city of Mosul, currently an ISIL terrorists stronghold. Surgical incisions, along with missing kidneys and other body parts lead to an inescapable conclusion. “We have bodies. Come and examine them. It is clear they are missing certain parts,” Alhakim revealed. He further described the carnage:

“When we discover mass graves, we look at the bodies. Some of those bodies are killed by bullets, some of them by knives. But when you find pieces of the back is missing and the kidneys is missing, you will wonder what it is.”
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 21 - Large Advance In Daraa
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 21, 2017, 01:05:11 pm
Syrian War Report – June 21, 2017: Government Forces Launched Large Advance In Daraa

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-21-2017-government-forces-launched-large-advance-in-daraa/


On Tuesday, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the National Defense Forces (NDF) launched a large military operation in an attempt to split the militant-held area in the Daraa province into two separate parts.

Initially, the SAA and the NDF captured the Daraa Air Defense Base and the Dahdah Hill, but then government forces were pushed to retreat and the joint militant forces led by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) retook the area.

The SAA and the NDF also pushed in the direction of the Grain warehouses and inside the Palestinian camp but were not able to make notable gains.

During the clashes, militants destroyed a government forces battle tank, captured a battle tank, a bulldozer, and armoured vehicle.

On Wednesday, the Syrian Air Force continued bombing militant targets in the border area. This indicates that the SAA and the NDF may repeat an attempt to reach the border. If this is done, government force would develop momentum in the area in order to cut off supply lines to Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and its allies inside the city of Daraa.

In the eastern Damascus desert, government forces have captured the Bir Qassab area. The advance was made after a series of firefights with US-backed militants. Government forces steadily drive US-backed forces from the eastern Damascus desert. According to some experts, the goal of this effort is to isolate US-led coalition troops and their allied militant units in the border area near the US military facilities of At Tanf and Al Zqur.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have captured Kasrat al Faraj from ISIS in the city of Raqqah. Clashes continued in al-Baryd and Qadisiyyah.

A pilot of the Syrian Su-22 downed by the US-led coalition, Lieutenant Colonel Ali Fahd, was captured by SDF units. Since then, negotiations are ongoing between the government and the SDF to free him.

- See more at: https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-21-2017-government-forces-launched-large-advance-in-daraa/#sthash.BumtKwUX.dpuf

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Russian Air Power Pounding ISIS
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 21, 2017, 01:10:40 pm
Video: Russian Air Power Pounding ISIS Terrorists In Hama Province

The Russian Aerospace Forces are bombing ISIS terrorists in the province of Hama.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Another Israeli Land Grab in Syria
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 21, 2017, 01:40:06 pm
Another Israeli Land Grab in Syria

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 21 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416503/another-israeli-land-grab-syria

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‘For the last five years, Israel has been providing money, weapons, logistical support and even direct military assistance to “moderate rebels” with the goal of creating an Israeli-controlled “buffer zone” to ensure that the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights stay forever-occupied.

In other words: Israel is occupying more Syrian land to protect the Syrian land that it’s already occupying.

According to an in-depth report by Nour Samaha,

Israel’s “safe zone” now unofficially runs roughly 6 miles (10km) deep and 12 miles (20km) long beyond the demarcation line of the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. The effort is intended to prevent the Syrian government and its allies, specifically Lebanese Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, from maintaining a foothold along the Israeli fence. Israel used a similar tactic to establish a zone of control in the south of Lebanon during the Lebanese civil war.

For Israel, establishing a buffer zone in southern Syria not only creates distance between its border and pro-government forces – particularly those backed by Iran – it also cements Tel Aviv’s control over the occupied Golan Heights, an area of Syrian land that the Israeli army captured in 1967.’


Read more: Another Israeli Land Grab in Syria (http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/another-israeli-land-grab-syria/ri20143)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? US wants to crush Assad and install ISIS
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 21, 2017, 01:42:35 pm
The US seems keener to strike at Syria's Assad than it does to destroy ISIS

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 21 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416478/us-seems-keener-strike-syrias-assad-destroy-isis

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‘The extraordinary destruction of a Syrian fighter jet by a US aircraft on Sunday has precious little to do with the Syrian plane’s target in the desert near Rasafa – but much to do with the advance of the Syrian army close to the American-backed Kurdish forces along the Euphrates. The Syrians have grown increasingly suspicious in recent months that most Kurdish forces in the north of Syria – many of them in alliance with the Assad government until recently – have thrown in their lot with the Americans.

Indeed, the military in Damascus is making no secret of the fact that it has ended its regular arms and ammunition supplies to the Kurds – it has apparently given them 14,000 AK-47 rifles since 2012 – and the Syrian regime was outraged to learn that Kurdish forces recently received an envoy from the United Arab Emirates.

There is unconfirmed information that a Saudi envoy also visited the Kurds. This, of course, follows the infamous Trump speech in Riyadh, in which the US President gave total American support to the Saudi monarchy in its anti-Iranian and anti-Syrian policies – and then later supported the Saudi-led isolation of Qatar.’


Read more: The US seems keener to strike at Syria’s Assad than it does to destroy ISIS (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-isis-usa-trump-kurds-keen-to-destroy-assad-a7799086.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - DRONE SHOT DOWN BY RUSSIAN S-300
Post by: Al Bundy on Jun 22, 2017, 04:38:27 am
U.S. EQ-4 GLOBAL HAWK DRONE SHOT DOWN BY RUSSIAN S-300 OVER MEDITERRANEAN SEA NEAR SYRIA  :o

http://halturnershow.com/index.php/news/world-news/655-breaking-russia-fires-s-300-out-over-mediterraneanhttp://
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - ISIS Tank Workshop Near Resafa In Raqqah
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 22, 2017, 06:10:15 am
Video: Government Forces Seized Large ISIS Tank Workshop Near Resafa In Raqqah Province
https://southfront.org/video-government-forces-seized-large-isis-tank-workshop-near-resafa-in-raqqah-province/


Syrian government forces have captured a large ISIS tank workshop near the recently liberated town of Resafa in the province of Raqqah. Government troops have captured a notable number of battle tanks, buldozers and other equipment.

Some screenshots from the video showing the captured battle tanks, buldozers and artillery pieces:

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MORE PICTURES
https://southfront.org/video-government-forces-seized-large-isis-tank-workshop-near-resafa-in-raqqah-province/


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - ISIS Blew Up Al-Nuri Kabir Mosque In Old Mosul ?
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 22, 2017, 06:14:03 am
Alleged Video Appears Showing Moment When ISIS Blew Up Al-Nuri Kabir Mosque In Old Mosul
https://southfront.org/first-video-appears-showing-moment-isis-blew-al-nuri-kabir-mosque-old-mosul/

An alleged video showing the destruction of the Al-Nuri Kabir Mosque in Old Mosul appeared online and now is actively circulating in social media.

READ MORE !
https://southfront.org/first-video-appears-showing-moment-isis-blew-al-nuri-kabir-mosque-old-mosul/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?- ISIS Blows Up Mosul Mosque
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 22, 2017, 06:16:44 am
ISIS Blows Up Mosul Mosque Where Baghdadi Became 'Caliph'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXlu94BfTXE

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Vaccine induced Polio outbreak leaves 17 children paralyzed
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 22, 2017, 06:31:37 am
Vaccine induced Polio outbreak leaves 17 children paralyzed in Syria

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 22 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416638/vaccine-induced-polio-outbreak-leaves-17-children-paralyzed-syria

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‘Some 17 children have been paralyzed following an outbreak of polio in Syria, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Two cases of the disease were reported in Mayadin in Deir al-Zour in eastern Syria earlier this month. Since then, 14 new cases have been confirmed in the area with another case confirmed in Raqqa, an area controlled by Islamic State (IS, Formerly ISIS/ISIL).

WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic said the 17 children began showing symptoms as early as March 3 but tests only recently confirmed the presence of “vaccine-derived” polio.

This, Jasarevic said, indicates there was under-immunization in the Mayadin area.

WHO plans to vaccinate 90,000 children under five in the area, along with an additional 320,000 children in other parts of Deir al-Zour.’


Read more: Vaccine induced Polio outbreak leaves 17 children paralyzed in Syria (https://www.rt.com/news/393335-who-syria-polio-children/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 22 - ISIS Blows Up Al-Nuri Kabir Mosque
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 24, 2017, 04:56:12 am
Syrian War Report – June 22, 2017: ISIS Blows Up Al-Nuri Kabir Mosque

https://southfront.org/battle-for-mosul-june-22-2017-isis-blows-up-al-nuri-kabir-mosque/

On June 21st, ISIS terrorists blew up the Al-Nuri Kabir Mosque in the Old Mosul area in western Mosul.  The mosque is located in the center of Old Mosul, the last remaining ISIS stronghold in the Iraqi city.  The Al-Nuri Kabir Mosque was the place where ISIS Leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi proclaimed a ‘Caliphate’ in 2014.

The ISIS-linked news agency Amaq released a statement arguing that a US airstrike destroyed the mosque.

On the same day, Iraqi security forces (ISF), backed up by the US-led coalition, launched a large-scale advance in order to retake Old Mosul from ISIS. ISF fighters advanced on Old Mosul from the northern and southwestern directions, penetrated ISIS defense lines, and reached the area close to the Al-Nuri Kabir Mosque.

The destruction of the mosque by terrorists is a clear indication of the collapse of ISIS in Mosul.

According to pro-government sources, about 300 ISIS terrorists were killed in the recent clashes in Old Mosul.  However, this has not been confirmed by photo or video evidence. According to some sources, the total number of ISIS members remaining in the city is between 300 and 400.

According to pro-ISIS sources, some 36 ISF servicemen were killed in clashes in Old Mosul.

According to official estimates, over 100,000 civilians are trapped in the ISIS-held area.  However, experts believe that number to be an overestimation as was the case during the final stages of the battle for Aleppo.

Iraqi forces entered a final phase of their wider effort to liberate the city of Mosul from terrorists.  If they entrench in the recently captured areas of Old Mosul, they will be able to set a foothold for a rapid liberation of this strategic area.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 23 - Army Regaining More Ground Near Palmyra
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 24, 2017, 05:00:41 am
Syrian War Report – June 23, 2017: Army Regaining More Ground Near Palmyra

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-23-2017-army-regaining-more-ground-near-palmyra/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA), the National Defense Forces (NDF) and other pro-government factions have further advanced against ISIS and US-backed militants in the province of Homs. On Thursday, government troops captured Tal Ghurab northwest of the US garrison of Zquf near the Syrian-Iraqi border. With the liberation of Tal Ghurab, the SAA and its allies increased pressure on US-backed militants operating in the area and strengthened the Syrian military position at the border with Iraq.

Separately, the SAA and the NDF captured Zahar Abah and clashes with ISIS at the Arak gas fields area. ISIS militants fiercely defend their positions east of Palmyra.

In the province of Raqqah, the SAA and the NDF have resumed attempts to re-take the Ithriyah-Resafa road from ISIS terrorists. An intense fighting is ongoing.

Earlier this week, the SAA seized a large ISIS workshop in Resafa, capturing a notable number of battle tanks and other equipment.

Turkey, Russia and Iran have been working on a plan to deploy their troops in de-escalation areas in Syria, Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin told media on Thursday.

“We will probably be most prominent in the Idlib region with the Russians; mostly Russia and Iran around Damascus, and a mechanism involving the Americans and Jordan in the south in the Daraa region is being worked on,” Ibrahim Kalin said, adding that the sides will further discuss the de-escalation agreement during talks in the Kazakh capital Astana in early July.

Meanwhile, Vladimir Shamanov, head of the defense committee at Russia’s State Duma said that Moscow has been negotiating with Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan suggesting them to deploy some forces into the recently established de-escalation zones.

Russia, Turkey and Iran signed a deal in Astana on May 4 to establish four de-escalation zones in order to minimize violence in the war-torn country.

On Thursday, reports appeared that the government and militants operating in Daraa have reached comprehensive reconciliation agreement and the SAA may re-establish control over the border with Jordan in the area. However, these reports were not confirmed by government officials. Clashes in the area continued.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) continued an advance south of Raqqah, capturing Al-Kamb from ISIS. If the SDF seizes Mustajid Naqib, ISIS units will be fully encircled inside the city. ISIS launched a series of counter-attacks in Raqqah but didn’t regain any large areas.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Map Syria Iraq Border
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 24, 2017, 05:04:50 am
Syrian Government Forces Liberate More Points At Border With Iraq

https://southfront.org/syrian-government-forces-liberate-more-points-at-border-with-iraq/

Following the liberation of al-Waer dam, Syrian government forces have liberated Ard al-Washhash and Wadi al-Luwayziyah from ISIS terrorists at the border with Iraq. With this move they deployed in a striking distance from the T2 airport, the last major ISIS defense site en route to the border town of al-Bukamal.

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - What is Really Going On ?
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 24, 2017, 05:09:35 am
The Saker

The latest escalation in Syria – what is really going on?

https://southfront.org/latest-escalation-syria-really-going/
Written by The Saker; Originally appeared at The Unz Review (http://www.unz.com/tsaker/the-latest-escalation-in-syria-what-is-really-going-on/)

By now most of you have heard the latest bad news of out Syria: on June 18th a US F/A-18E Super Hornet (1999) used a AIM-120 AMRAAM (1991) to shoot down a Syrian Air Force Su-22 (1970). Two days later, June 20th, a US F-15E Strike Eagle shot down an Iranian IRGC Shahed 129 drone. The excuse used each time was that there was a threat to US and US supported forces. The reality is, of course, that the US are simply trying to stop the advance of the Syrian army. This was thus a typical American “show of force”. Except that, of course, shooting a 47 year old Soviet era Su-22 fighter-bomber is hardly an impressive feat. Neither is shooting a unmanned drone. There is a pattern here, however, and that pattern is that all US actions so far have been solely for show: the basically failed bombing of the Syria military airbase, the bombing of the Syrian army column, the shooting down of the Syrian fighter-bomber and of the Iranian drone – all these actions have no real military value. They do, however, have a provocative value as each time all the eyes turn to Russia to see if the Russians will respond or not.

Russia did respond this time again, but in a very ambiguous and misunderstood manner. The Russians announced, amongst other measure that from now on “any airborne objects, including aircraft and unmanned vehicles of the [US-led] international coalition, located to the west of the Euphrates River, will be tracked by Russian ground and air defense forces as air targets” which I reported as “Russian MoD declares it will shoot down any aircraft flying west of the Euphrates river”. While I gave the exact Russian quote, I did not explain why I paraphrased the Russian words the way I did. Now is a good time to explain this.


First, here is the exact original (http://www.interfax.ru/world/567218) Russian text:

«В районах выполнения боевых задач российской авиацией в небе Сирии любые воздушные объекты, включая самолёты и беспилотные аппараты международной коалиции, обнаруженные западнее реки Евфрат, будут приниматься на сопровождение российскими наземными и воздушными средствами противовоздушной обороны в качестве воздушных целей»
A literal translation would be:

“In areas of the combat missions of Russian aviation in the skies of Syria any airborne objects, including aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicle of the international coalition discovered to the West of the Euphrates river, will be tracked by Russian ground based an airborne assets as air targets”

So what does this exactly mean in technical-military terms ?


A quick look inside a US fighter’s cockpit

When an F/A-18 flies over Syria the on-board emission detectors (called radar warning receivers or RWR) inform the pilot of the kind of radar signals the aircraft is detecting. Over Syria that means that the pilot would see a lot of search radars looking in all directions trying to get a complete picture of what is happening in the Syrian skies. The US pilot will be informed that a certain number of Syrian S-300 and Russian S-400 batteries are scanning the skies and most probably see him. So far so good. If there are deconfliction zones or any type of bilateral agreements to warn each other about planned sorties then that kind of radar emissions are no big deal. Likewise US radars (ground, sea or air based) are also scanning the skies and “seeing” the Russian Aerospace Forces’ aircraft on their radars and the Russians know that. In this situation neither side is treating anybody as “air targets”. When a decision is made to treat an object as an “air target” a completely different type of radar signal is used and a much narrower energy beam is directed at the target which can now be tracked and engaged. The pilot is, of course, immediately informed of this. At this point the pilot is in a very uncomfortable position: he knows that he is being tracked, but he has no way of knowing if a missile has already been launched against him or not. Depending on a number of factors, an AWACS might be able to detect a missile launch, but this might not be enough and it might also be too late.

The kind of missiles fired by S-300/S-400 batteries are extremely fast, over 4’000mph (four thousand miles per hour) which means that a missile launched as far away as 120 miles will reach you in 2 minutes or that a missile launched 30 miles away will reach you in 30 seconds. And just to make things worse, the S-300 can use a special radar mode called “track via missile” where the radar emits a pulse towards the target whose reflection is then received not by the ground based radar, but by the rapidly approaching missile itself, which then sends its reading back to the ground radar which then sends guidance corrections back to the missile. Why is that bad for the aircraft? Because there is no way to tell from the emissions whether a missile has been launched and is already approaching at over 4’000mph or not. The S-300 and S-400 also have other modes, including the Seeker Aided Ground Guidance (SAGG) where the missile also computes a guidance solution (not just the ground radar) and then the two are compared and a Home On Jam (HOJ) mode when the jammed missile then homes directly on the source of the jamming (such as an onboard jamming pod). Furthermore, there are other radar modes available such as the Ground Aided Inertial (GAI) which guides the missile in the immediate proximity of the target where the missile switches on its own radar just before hitting the target. Finally, there is some pretty good evidence that the Russians have perfected a complex datalink system which allows them to fuse into one all the signals they acquire from their missiles, airborne aircraft (fighter, interceptor or AWACS) and ground radars and that means that, in theory, if a US aircraft is outside the flight envelope (reach) of the ground based missiles the signals acquired by the ground base radars could be used to fire an air-to-air missile at the US aircraft (we know that their MiG-31s are capable of such engagements, so I don’t see why their much more recent Su-30/Su-35 could not). This would serve to further complicate the situational awareness of the pilot as a missile could be coming from literally any direction. At this point the only logical reaction would be for the US pilot to inform his commanders and get out, fast. Sure, in theory, he could simply continue his mission, but that would be very hard, especially if he suspects that the Syrians might have other, mobile, air defense on the way to, or near, his intended target.

Just try to imagine this: you are flying, in total illegality, over hostile territory and preparing to strike a target when suddenly your radar warning receiver goes off and tells you “you got 30 seconds or (much?) less to decide whether there is a 300lbs (150kg) warhead coming at you at 4000mph (6400kmh) or not”. How would you feel if it was you sitting in that cockpit? Would you still be thinking about executing your planned attack?

The normal US strategy is to achieve what is called “air superiority/supremacy” by completely suppressing enemy air defenses and taking control of the skies. If I am not mistaken, the last time the US fighters operated in a meaningfully contested air space was in Vietnam…

By the way, these technologies are not uniquely Russian, they are well known in the West, for example the US Patriot SAM also uses TVM, but the Russians have very nicely integrated them into one formidable air defense system.

The bottom line is this: once the US aircraft is “treated like a target” he has no way of knowing if the Syrians, or the Russians, are just being cheeky or whether has has seconds left to live. Put differently, “treating like a target” is tantamount to somebody putting a gun to your head and letting you guess if/when he will pull the trigger.

So yes, the Russian statement most definitely was a “threat to shoot down”!


Next, a look into the Russian side of the equation

To understand why the Russians used the words “threat like an air target” rather than “will shoot down” you need to remember that Russia is still the weaker party here. There is nothing worse than not delivering on a threat. If the Russians had said “we will shoot down” and then had not done so, they would have made an empty threat. Instead, they said “will treat as an air target” because that leaves them an “out” should they decided not to pull the trigger. However, for the US Navy or Air Force pilot, these considerations are all irrelevant once his detectors report to him that he is being “painted” with the beam of an engagement radar!

So what the Russians did is to greatly unnerve the US crews without actually having to shoot down anybody. It is not a coincidence that the Americans almost immediately stop flying West of the Euphrates river while the Australians officially decided to bow out from any further air sorties (http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/australia-halts-air-missions-over-syria-after-russia-labels-coalition-aircraft-are-a-threat/news-story/f1ce1627b80e53a5b883abdf5720fd18).

It cannot be overemphasized that the very last thing Russia needs is to shoot down a US aircraft over Syria which is exactly what some elements of the Pentagon seem to want. Not only is Russia the weaker side in this conflict, but the Russians also understand the wider political consequences of what would happen if they took the dramatic step to shoot down a US aircraft: a dream come true for the Neocons and a disaster for everybody else.


A quick look from the US Neoconistan and the quest for a “tepid war”

The dynamic in Syria is not fundamentally different from the dynamic in the Ukraine: the Neocons know that they have failed to achieve their primary objective: to control the entire country. They also know that their various related financial schemes have collapsed. Finally, they are fully aware that they owe this defeat to Russia and, especially, to Vladimir Putin. So they fell back on plan B. Plan B is almost as good as Plan A (full control) because Plan B has much wider consequences. Plan B is also very simple: trigger a major crisis with Russia but stay short from a full-scale war. Ideally, Plan B should revolve around a “firm” “reaction” to the Russian “aggression” and a “defense” of the US “allies” in the region. In practical terms this simply means: get the Russians to openly send forces into Novorussia or get the Russians to take military actions against the US or its allies in Syria. Once you get this you can easily see that the latest us attacks in Syria have a minor local purpose – to scare or slow down the Syrians- and a major global purpose – to bait the Russians into using forces against the US or an ally. It bears repeating here that what the Neocons really want is what I call a “tepid” war with Russia: an escalation of tensions to levels even not seen in the Cold War, but not a full-scale “hot” WWIII either. A tepid war would finally re-grant NATO at least some kind of purpose (to protect “our European friends and allies” from the “Russian threat”): the already terminally spineless EU politicians would all be brought into an even more advanced state of subservience, the military budgets would go even higher and Trump would be able to say that he made “America” “great” again. And, who knows, maybe the Russian people would *finally* rise against Putin, you never know! (They wouldn’t – but the Neocons have never been deterred from their goofy theories by such minor and altogether irrelevant things as facts or logic).

[Sidebar: I noticed this time again that each time the US tries to bait Russia into some kind of harsh reaction and Russia declines to take the bait, this triggers in immediate surge into the number of comments which vehemently complain that Russia is acting like a pussy, that Putin is a fake, that he is “in cahoots” with the US and/or Israel and that the Russians are weak or that they have “sold out”. I am getting a sense that we are dealing with paid US PSYOP operatives whose mission is to use the social media to try to put the Kremlin under pressure with these endless accusations of weakness and selling-out. Since I have no interest in rewarding these folks in any way, I mostly send their recriminations where they belong: to the trash]


Does the Russian strategy work?

To reply to this, don’t look at what the Russians do or do not do in the immediate aftermath of a US provocation. Take a higher level look and just see what happens in the mid to long term. Just like in a game of chess, taking the Gambit is not always the correct strategy.

I submit that to evaluate whether Putin’s policies are effective or not, to see whether he has “sold out” or “caved in” you need to, for example, look at the situation in Syria (or the Ukraine, for that matter) as it was 2 years ago and then compare with what it is today. Or, alternatively, look at the situation as it is today and come back to re-visit it in 6 months.

One huge difference between the western culture and the way the Russians (or the Chinese for that matter) look at geostrategy is that westerners always look at everything in the short term and tactical level. This is basically the single main reason why both Napoleon and Hitler lost their wars against Russia: an almost exclusive focus on the short term and tactical. In contrast, the Russians are the undisputed masters of operational art (in a purely military sense) and, just like the Chinese, they tend to always keep their eyes on the long-term horizon. Just look at the Turkish downing of a Russian Su-24: everybody bemoaned the lack of “forceful” reaction from Moscow. And then, six months later – what do we have? Exactly.

The modern western culture is centered on various forms of instant gratification, and that is also true for geopolitics. If the other guy does something, western leaders always deliver a “firm” response. They like to “send messages” and they firmly believe that doing something, no matter how symbolic, is better than even the *appearance* of doing nothing. As for the appearance of doing nothing, it is universally interpreted as a sign of weakness. Russians don’t think that way. They don’t care about instant gratification, they care only about one thing: victory. And if that means to look weak, that is fine. From a Russian perspective, sending “messages” or taking symbolic actions (like all 4 of the recent US attacks in Syria) are not signs of strength, but signs of weakness. Generally, the Russians don’t like to use force which they consider inherently dangerous. But when they do, they never threaten or warn, they take immediate and pragmatic (non-symbolic) action which gets them closer to a specific goal.

Conclusion

The Russian reaction to the latest US attack on Syria was not designed to maximize the approval of the many Internet armchair strategists. It was designed to maximize the discomfort of the US lead “coalition” in Syria while minimizing the risks for Russia. It is precisely by using an ambiguous language which civilians would interpret in one way, and military personnel in another, that the Russians introduced a very disruptive element of unpredictability into the planning of US air operations in Syria.

The Russians are not without they own faults and bad habits and they make mistakes (recognizing the Ukronazi junta in Kiev after the coup was probably such a mistake), but it is important to differentiate between their real weaknesses and mistakes and their very carefully designed strategies. Just because they don’t act in the way their putative “supporters” in the West would does not mean that they have “caved in”, “blinked first” or any other such nonsense. The first step towards understanding how the Russians function is to stop expecting that they would act just like Americans would.

The Saker


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - White Helmets member caught on camera (AGAIN)
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 24, 2017, 05:28:27 am
White Helmets member caught on camera disposing of Syrian soldiers’ mutilated bodies

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 24 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416867/white-helmets-member-caught-camera-disposing-syrian-soldiers-mutilated-bodies

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‘A member of the so-called White Helmets which has been hailed by the western media as ‘peace-bearing heroes’ has been caught on camera helping a group of unidentified militants disposing the bodies of beheaded Syrian Army soldiers.

Graphic footage posted on Twitter on June 20 shows a man wearing a T-shirt with the White Helmets logo dumping a pile of bodies, allegedly being that of Syrian Army soldiers or pro-government fighters.

The gut-wrenching footage shows that many bodies in the pile are beheaded and one militant even shows a severed head of a soldier up close on camera.

“Impartial and humanitarian White Helmets [are] participating in the beheading and throwing of Syrian soldiers bodies at a dumpster in Daraa,” a caption under the video posted on Twitter reads.

Daraa is a southern Syrian province bordering Jordan where several rebel factions as well as Al-Nusra terrorist group and its affiliates are operating.’

Read more: White Helmets member caught on camera disposing of Syrian soldiers’ mutilated bodies (https://www.rt.com/news/393809-white-helmets-mutilated-bodies/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?- Israel and al Nusra target Syria’s Golan simultaneously
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 25, 2017, 05:19:40 am
Israel and al Nusra target Syria’s Golan simultaneously: Army source

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 25 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417063/israel-al-nusra-target-syrias-golan-simultaneously-army-source

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‘A Syrian military source says Israel’s airstrikes on the Golan Heights on Saturday coincided with a push by Nusra Front terrorists against army positions, which was aborted.

The Syrian army and allied forces repelled a massive assault by the terrorists near al-Baath City in southern Quneitra Province and inflicted heavy losses on them, Syria’s official SANA news agency quoted the source as saying Saturday.

As a counter-terrorism operation got underway, an Israeli warplane conducted air raids on a parking lot and a residential building in the same area, killing civilians and causing material damage, the source added.

The Israeli army claimed its strikes had targeted Syria’s military installations in response to an alleged firing of 10 projectiles from the Arab country at the occupied territories.’


Read more: Israel and al Nusra target Syria’s Golan simultaneously: Army source (http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/06/25/526436/Syria-Israel-Nusra-Front)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Israeli warplanes target two Syrian tanks
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 25, 2017, 05:20:22 am
Israeli warplanes target two Syrian tanks over spillover cross-border

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 25 JUNE 2017 GMT MIDDLE EAST NEWS WAR AND TERROR
https://www.davidicke.com/article/416984/israeli-warplanes-target-two-syrian-tanks-spillover-cross-border

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‘The Israeli Defense Force has attacked two Syrian army tanks after a dozen spillover projectiles landed in the Israel-controlled part of the Golan Heights from Syrian territory.

The Israeli military said several projectiles fired from Syria “hit an open area” in the northern Golan Heights. No injuries were reported.

Calling the incident an “unacceptable violation of Israeli sovereignty,” IDF aircraft targeted the “origin of launches and two Syrian tanks”.

The Israeli army instructed farmers and civilians near the Quneitra border crossing into Syria to avoid open fields, the Jerusalem Post reports.

An IDF spokesperson told the news outlet that Israel’s retaliation came less than an hour after the spillover fire. The IDF reportedly stressed that it views Damascus as “ultimately responsible for what is happening in its territory.”’


Read more: Israeli warplanes target two Syrian tanks over spillover cross-border  (https://www.rt.com/news/393870-israel-strikes-syrian-tanks/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 25, 2017, 10:40:15 am
A declassified October 2012 Defense Intelligence Agency report  about weapons shipped from Libya to Syria.  Description of weapons shipped starts on page 3 and continues to 4. 
 
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version.pdf (http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version.pdf)



Good article that shows how United States armed those fighting in Syria against Assad.   Although the one grip I have is that it calls the US actions a debacle.  This is a deliberate plot to keep the forever War raging strong to conduct regime change, feed the MIC and continue the divide and conquer strategy. 


How America Armed Terrorists in Syria (http://How America Armed Terrorists in Syria)


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Obama refused to provide arms to the opposition, but he agreed to provide covert U.S. logistical help in carrying out a campaign of military assistance to arm opposition groups. CIA involvement in the arming of anti-Assad forces began with arranging for the shipment of weapons from the stocks of the Gaddafi regime that had been stored in Benghazi. CIA-controlled firms shipped the weapons from the military port of Benghazi to two small ports in Syria using former U.S. military personnel to manage the logistics, as investigative reporter Sy Hersh detailed in 2014. The funding for the program came mainly from the Saudis.

A declassified October 2012 Defense Intelligence Agency report revealed that the shipment in late August 2012 had included 500 sniper rifles, 100 RPG (rocket propelled grenade launchers) along with 300 RPG rounds and 400 howitzers. Each arms shipment encompassed as many as ten shipping containers, it reported, each of which held about 48,000 pounds of cargo. That suggests a total payload of up to 250 tons of weapons per shipment. Even if the CIA had organized only one shipment per month, the arms shipments would have totaled 2,750 tons of arms bound ultimately for Syria from October 2011 through August 2012. More likely it was a multiple of that figure. 

The CIA’s covert arms shipments from Libya came to an abrupt halt in September 2012 when Libyan militants attacked and burned the embassy annex in Benghazi that had been used to support the operation. By then, however, a much larger channel for arming anti-government forces was opening up. The CIA put the Saudis in touch with a senior Croatian official who had offered to sell large quantities of arms left over from the Balkan Wars of the 1990s. And the CIA helped them shop for weapons from arms dealers and governments in several other former Soviet bloc countries.


Flush with weapons acquired from both the CIA Libya program and from the Croatians, the Saudis and Qataris dramatically increased the number of flights by military cargo planes to Turkey in December 2012 and continued that intensive pace for the next two and a half months. The New York Times reported a total 160 such flights through mid-March 2013. The most common cargo plane in use in the Gulf, the Ilyushin IL-76, can carry roughly 50 tons of cargo on a flight, which would indicate that as much as 8,000 tons of weapons poured across the Turkish border into Syria just in late 2012 and in 2013.

One U.S. official called the new level of arms deliveries to Syrian rebels a “cataract of weaponry.” And a year-long investigation by the Balkan Investigative Reporting Network and the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project revealed that the Saudis were intent on building up a powerful conventional army in Syria. The “end-use certificate” for weapons purchased from an arms company in Belgrade, Serbia, in May 2013 includes 500 Soviet-designed PG-7VR rocket launchers that can penetrate even heavily-armored tanks, along with two million rounds; 50 Konkurs anti-tank missile launchers and 500 missiles, 50 anti-aircraft guns mounted on armored vehicles, 10,000 fragmentation rounds for OG-7 rocket launchers capable of piercing heavy body armor; four truck-mounted BM-21 GRAD multiple rocket launchers, each of which fires 40 rockets at a time with a range of 12 to 19 miles, along with 20,000 GRAD rockets.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jun 25, 2017, 10:36:38 pm
A declassified October 2012 Defense Intelligence Agency report  about weapons shipped from Libya to Syria.  Description of weapons shipped starts on page 3 and continues to 4. 
 
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version.pdf (http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version.pdf)

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Good article that shows how United States armed those fighting in Syria against Assad.   Although the one grip I have is that it calls the US actions a debacle.  This is a deliberate plot to keep the forever War raging strong to conduct regime change, feed the MIC and continue the divide and conquer strategy. 


How America Armed Terrorists in Syria (http://How America Armed Terrorists in Syria)

Hey!  It's ALL about those gosh darn mooooooooslims stop posting documents about GLOBALISTS behind all the death and destruction!!!!
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Israel’s 3yr Fire Support for Its Al-Qaeda Mercenaries
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 26, 2017, 06:58:57 am
Israel’s Fire Support for Its Al-Qaeda Mercenaries Started Three Years Ago

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 26 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417140/israels-fire-support-al-qaeda-mercenaries-started-three-years-ago

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‘Al-Qaeda attacked a Syrian Arab Army position in Madinat al-Baath (map) next to the Israel occupied Golan heights. Al-Qaeda requested Israeli fire-support by launching some mortars towards empty space in the Israel occupied area. The Israeli Defense Force accepted the request and destroyed two Syrian Arab Army tanks. Two Syrian soldiers were killed. The SAA held steady and the al-Qaeda attack on its position failed.

This was very easy to predict. Israel has supported al-Qaeda in the area since at least 2014. The al-Qaeda fire-request-by-mortar scheme has been in place for at least three years. In October 2014 the UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF), which back then still covered the area, reported to the UN Security Council:

On 23 June [2014], Israel targeted nine Syrian army positions with tank fire and air strikes after mortar fire from the Syrian side the previous day killed an Israeli civilian. Israel’s assessment is that most of these incidents are due to errant fire resulting from fighting in Syria. Israel said that armed opposition groups were probably responsible but that its forces fired on Syrian military positions to stress that Syria was responsible for security on its side of the ceasefire line.’


Read more: Israel’s Fire Support for Its Al-Qaeda Mercenaries Started Three Years Ago (http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/06/israeli-fire-support-for-its-al-qaeda-mercenaries-started-three-years-ago.html#more)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Seymour Hersh
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 26, 2017, 07:00:28 am
Trump ignored intel, launched Tomahawks in Syria based on media – Pulitzer winner Seymour Hersh

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 26 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417115/trump-ignored-intel-launched-tomahawks-syria-based-media-pulitzer-winner-seymour-hersh

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‘US President Donald Trump ignored reports from US intelligence that said they had no evidence Syria had used sarin to attack a rebel-held town, Pulitzer-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh says.

Hersh is most famous for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War. He also uncovered the abuse of prisoners by US personnel at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. In a report published by the German newspaper Die Welt on Sunday, he describes how the Trump administration mishandled the media frenzy after the Syrian bombing of the rebel-held town Khan Sheikhoun in April.

Trump chose to ignore reports compiled by American intelligence and the military that contradicted the prevailing media narrative accusing Damascus of using sarin gas to kill civilians, the report says, citing accounts by anonymous US military advisers. Instead, he ordered his military to prepare options for a response, which they did.’

Read more: Trump ignored intel, launched Tomahawks in Syria based on media – Pulitzer winner Seymour Hersh (https://www.rt.com/usa/393993-trump-intel-syria-tomahawk-chemical/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 26 - Israel Supports Militant Advance In Quneitra
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 26, 2017, 10:10:46 am
Syrian War Report – June 26, 2017: Israel Supports Militant Advance In Quneitra

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-26-2017-israel-supports-militant-advance-in-quneitra/

Last weekend, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and allied groups from the so-called Free Syrian Army (FSA) launched a large-scale advance against the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) in the province of Quneitra. The militants had formed an operation room named Jaysh Muhammad for the purpose and said that their aim was to capture al-Baath town and to reach the countryside of Damascus.

On Saturday, the joint militant forces made some gains against the SAA and even claimed that they seized over a half of al-Baath. However, further clashes showed that HTS and their allies were not able to break the government defenses.

Following a fail of the militant advance, the Israeli Air Force conducted airstrikes on government positions in the province claiming that some projectiles landed in the Israeli-occupied part of the Golan Heights. The airstrikes targeted undefined number of artillery pieces and two battle tanks of the SAA.

On Sunday, the Israeli Air Force carried out airstrikes on the SAA in Al-Baath in Quneitra province for the second day in a row under the same pretext. According to the Israeli military, the airstrikes hit artillery positions and an ammunitions truck.

Following the Israeli strikes, militants launched the second large-scale attempt to break government defense lines in al-Baath but failed to achieve any gains.

On Monday, the Israeli media reported that more projectiles landed in the Israeli-held area and that the Israeli Air Force responded with more airstrikes on SAA positions in the province. If confirmed, this was the third time in a row when the Israeli Air Force delivered airstrikes against Syrian government forces in the area.

At the same time, reports appeared HTS and its allies once again launched an attack against the SAA in al-Baath.

Syrian experts describe the Israeli actions as a clear assistance to the terrorist group fighting the legitimate Syrian government in the border area. According to them, Tel Aviv is deeply concerned over successful SAA operations against ISIS and other militants across Syria. Thus, it takes measures to undermine the Syrian war on terror.

Meanwhile, the SAA Tiger Forces have successfully advanced against ISIS at the Ithriyah-Resafa road. They liberated Bir Abu Alaj, the Syriatel checkpoint and some nearby points, becoming close to a full liberation of the road. This advance is an important step aimed at securing the whole area east of Khanasir.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have continued storming the ISIS-held city of Raqqah. They encircled the city from the southern flank and clashing with ISIS inside it, including the southern part of the 17th Army Base.

ISIS terrorists used at least 3 VBIEDs against SDF units in Al-Jazra and Al-Idikhar districts of the city. Clashes are also ongoing in Al-Qadisiya and Al-Yarmouk districts.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Lost Race For Border With Iraq
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 26, 2017, 10:15:16 am
US-led Coalition Admits It Has Lost Race For Border With Iraq To Syrian Army

https://southfront.org/us-led-colaition-admits-lost-race-border-iraq-syrian-army/

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Last Friday, the US-led officially admitted that it lost a race for the Syrian-Iraqi border to the Syrian Army and its allies.

Now, the US welcomes the Syrian effort to defeat ISIS.

The Associated Press (source (https://apnews.com/amp/203103329c594ecf94352632eebd3169)):

The U.S. military coalition fighting the Islamic State would welcome a concerted effort by the Syrian government or its Iranian-backed partner forces to defeat IS in its remaining strongholds in eastern Syria, a U.S. spokesman said Friday.

Army Col. Ryan Dillon, spokesman for the coalition, told reporters at the Pentagon that the U.S. goal is to defeat IS wherever it exists. If others, including the Syrian government and its Iranian and Russian allies, want to fight the extremists as well, then “we absolutely have no problem with that,” he said, speaking from Baghdad.

“If it looks like they are making a concerted effort to move into ISIS-held areas, and if they show that they can do that, that is not a bad sign,” Dillon said, referring to forces of Syrian President Bashar Assad. “We are here to fight ISIS as a coalition, but if others want to fight ISIS and defeat them, then we absolutely have no problem with that.”



The statement followed a clear collapse of the US-backed plan to build a militant-held buffer zone between the areas controlled by the Syrian army and Iraqi government forces at the Syrian-Iraqi border.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Military Situation In Syria And Iraq On June 26, 2017
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 26, 2017, 10:17:52 am
Military Situation In Syria And Iraq On June 26, 2017

https://southfront.org/military-situation-in-syria-and-iraq-on-june-26-2017/

This map provides a general look at the military situation in Syria and Iraq on June 26, 2017. The ISIS terrorist group is collapsing on multiple frontlines, including the provinces of Raqqah, Homs and Aleppo in Syria and the Iraqi city of Mosul.

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Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - RAND - "The Islamic State's Disposable Army" - RAND
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 26, 2017, 12:27:22 pm
RAND

The Islamic State's Disposable Army

by Brian Michael Jenkins
June 20, 2017

https://www.rand.org/blog/2017/06/the-islamic-states-disposable-army.html

 Armies of fanatics are easily sacrificed. The presumed fervency of their foot soldiers relieves commanders of concerns about their well-being. Seeking deliverance from their previous lives, salvation in the next, all fighters are presumed martyrs.

But the Islamic State group goes beyond this bloody tradition. Its leaders have elevated the slaughter of others to a strategic principle, while murder of its own and collective suicide are keys to its defense strategy. One cannot expect an organization that celebrates mass executions, kills in horrific ways and casually murders women and children to behave differently toward its own ranks. Those defending the shrinking frontiers of the Islamic State's territory as well as those abroad who carry out terrorist attacks on its behalf are a disposable commodity.

People in Europe and the United States who feel as if they are under siege from terrorists may find some comfort in the fact that the Islamic State group itself is being devastated. Tens of thousands of its fighters in Syria and Iraq have been killed in the past 30 months. Few of the rest are likely to survive the final battles. Their behavior as conquerors makes it difficult to muster sympathy for them.

Estimates of the group's peak strength as of the beginning of 2015 vary wildly, with between 80,000 and 100,000 fighters regarded as a fair guess. By the end of 2016, American officials were claiming 50,000 fighters had been killed, although British estimates were half that. In February, the head of U.S. Special Operations Command claimed that the United States and its allies had killed 60,000 fighters. By late May, the Islamic State group was down to fewer than a thousand fighters holed up in Mosul, Iraq, while between 4,000 and 5,000 were defending Raqqa, Syria. Whatever the precise numbers, this is a spectacular decline.

Although estimates of foreign fighters who joined vary as well, there are as many as 30,000, with around 4,000 to 5,000 coming from Western Europe, and perhaps a hundred or two from North America. Most of them are doomed.

The Islamic State group further increased its ranks by enlisting impoverished and desperate locals or by simply pressing them into its service under threat. Although many of its fighters were jihadist fanatics who may have welcomed death, not all are zealots.

U.S.-supported ground forces in Iraq and Syria have steadily pushed the Islamic State group back into its two remaining strongholds in Mosul and Raqqa. Much of Mosul, where it declared its caliphate three years ago, has been recaptured, although clearing out the last neighborhoods could still take months. And the battle for Raqqa, the capital of the group's territory in Syria, has just begun. But these are the end times for the Islamic State.

No white flags of surrender will replace the Islamic State group's black flags. There will be no retreat. There will be no evacuation of civilians. Young boys and old men are being fitted with suicide vests. It is a fight to the finish.

The fall of Mosul and Raqqa will not end the armed struggle. The Islamic State's leaders operated underground in Iraq for years and can revert to a clandestine terrorist campaign. Reports indicate that many of them have already taken off to other fronts, leaving lieutenants to oversee the last stand. Surviving an underground contest will be more difficult for the foreign fighters who cannot easily blend into the local population. After the fall of Raqqa, they will be useless.

Some foreign fighters have figured this out and already left. European authorities report that about 30 percent of those who went to Syria already have returned. Others may have gone to jihadist fronts elsewhere. Still others may want to get out, but will be killed if they try — there have been numerous reports of mass executions of both fighters and civilians for attempting to leave. The fighters may serve as human bombs, the civilians as human shields.

Most of the fighters, local and foreign, will die in the rubble where they are.

 If they manage to successfully escape their minders, fleeing jihadists must then get through the forces encircling Mosul and Raqqa. Secretary of Defense James Mattis recently announced an “annihilation campaign” to eliminate the foreign fighters. At large, they pose a threat to the rest of the world. It is better to eliminate them where they are. Whether they believe in Islamic State group notions that this is the Muslim Armageddon that heralds the return of the spiritual leader Mahdi or that paradise awaits them in the afterlife, most of the fighters, local and foreign, will die in the rubble where they are.

Being outside the Islamic State's territory does not prevent participation in the final battle. Others can take part remotely. Unlike al-Qaida, the Islamic State group has not focused its campaign on the “far enemy,” which means the United States and other Western nations, but like al-Qaida, it inspires followers abroad to carry out attacks where they are.

This does not mean that it recruits in any traditional sense. There is no vetting, no investment, no risks — volunteers cost nothing. Individuals are not persuaded to join, they are exhorted to kill. The Islamic State group targets malcontents, misfits, those with mental disorders, the most suggestible, those desperate to belong to something. Those who carry out an attack are rewarded with membership, recognition, and applause — a prestige suicide. Most Islamic State group terrorists abroad don't join it and kill. Instead, they kill and join, in most cases posthumously. They too are one-time use products.

Closing the ring on the Islamic State will likely prompt a barrage of homegrown terrorist attacks. Unable to make it to Syria, those left behind may believe that this is the final battle prophesied in Muslim tradition and seek participation to save their souls. Or they may be moved to avenge the deaths of their adopted brothers. The last days of the Islamic State group, like the demise of other fanatical enterprises in history, promises to be a cruel spectacle.

Brian Michael Jenkins is a senior adviser to the president of the nonprofit, nonpartisan RAND Corporation and an author of numerous books, reports and articles on terrorism-related topics.

This commentary originally appeared on U.S. News & World Report on June 16, 2017.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - RAND - "The Islamic State's Disposable Army" - RAND
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jun 26, 2017, 04:47:15 pm
RAND

The Islamic State's Disposable Army



It's a modern day version of the Hessians.  Another 'disposable army' of years gone by.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - RAND - "The Islamic State's Disposable Army" - RAND
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 26, 2017, 05:20:13 pm
It's a modern day version of the Hessians.  Another 'disposable army' of years gone by.

I like the comparison.

My own reading is that they are using fantasy figures, and that reminded me of Vietnam. Its not just the figures but the idea that "they" can defeat ISIS by Air power alone. That crazy doctrine, of defeating an enemy through air power alone failed in world war 2, but they never let go of "the dream".

The same people openly laughed at the Russian Air Force trying to defeat the Mujhadeen, now think that they can defeat the Mujhadeen re-branded as ISIS because it failed last time ?

I'm left wondering the purpose of the article.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - White House: 'Another chemical weapons attack' - AGAIN !
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jun 26, 2017, 10:43:32 pm
DID TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN FACT, VOTE IN HILLARY, BUT THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN LET IN ON IT YET?  ;)


White House: 'Another chemical weapons attack' potentially planned by Syria's Assad


The White House is warning Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad and military of “a heavy price,” as the US alleges “potential preparations” are under way for more chemical weapons attacks. The Trump administration insisted the US is there to “eliminate” ISIS.

"The United States has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the Assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children," White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said in a statement Monday night. "The activities are similar to preparations the regime made before its April 4, 2017 chemical weapons attack."

"As we have previously stated, the United States is in Syria to eliminate the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. If, however, Mr. Assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price."

US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley followed up by tweeting: "Any further attacks done to the people of Syria will be blamed on Assad, but also on Russia & Iran who support him killing his own people."

In April, Trump ordered an airstrike on Syria's Shayrat airbase, which was hit with 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles, following an alleged chemical attack in Idlib earlier that week that was blamed on the Assad government.

US lawmakers were divided immediately after the airstrikes were reported, but much of the media

Within a week of the April airstrike, Spicer told reporters that the White House was "open [to] the possibility of future" strikes on Syria, if "we see this kind of action again."

The US has also issued airstrikes against alleged Iranian-backed ground forces, shot down a pro-government drone and an alleged Iranian drone earlier this month, as well as a Syrian jet last week.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? White House announces plan for 2nd False Flag Chem Attack
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 27, 2017, 06:57:27 am
RT
White House: 'Another chemical weapons attack' potentially planned by Syria's Assad
Published time: 27 Jun, 2017 02:47
https://www.rt.com/usa/394194-us-syria-another-chemical-weapons-attack/

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The White House is warning Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad and military of “a heavy price,” as the US alleges “potential preparations” are under way for more chemical weapons attacks. The Trump administration insisted the US is there to “eliminate” ISIS.


"The United States has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the Assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children," White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said in a statement Monday night. "The activities are similar to preparations the regime made before its April 4, 2017 chemical weapons attack."

"As we have previously stated, the United States is in Syria to eliminate the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. If, however, Mr. Assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price."



US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley followed up by tweeting: "Any further attacks done to the people of Syria will be blamed on Assad, but also on Russia & Iran who support him killing his own people."

In April, Trump ordered an airstrike on Syria's Shayrat airbase, which was hit with 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles (https://www.rt.com/news/383857-video-syria-missile-attack-us/), following an alleged chemical attack in Idlib earlier that week that was blamed on the Assad government.

US lawmakers were divided  (https://www.rt.com/usa/383800-us-not-attacked-syria-lawmakers-divided/)immediately after the airstrikes were reported, but much of the media lauded the attack.

Within a week of the April airstrike, Spicer told reporters (https://www.rt.com/news/384256-us-syria-more-strikes/) that the White House was "open [to] the possibility of future" strikes on Syria, if "we see this kind of action again."

The US has also issued airstrikes against alleged Iranian-backed ground forces (https://www.rt.com/news/391150-coalition-strike-syria-forces/), shot down a pro-government drone (https://www.rt.com/news/391392-us-strikes-pro-government-forces-syria/) and an alleged Iranian drone (https://www.rt.com/usa/393219-us-aircraft-drone-syria/) earlier this month, as well as a Syrian jet last week.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jun 27, 2017, 07:23:31 am
Just as it seems that US is losing the war against Syria with its proxy mercenaries,  Syria starts planning a chemical attack.  How convenient for the US. 

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White House accuses Syria of planning another chemical attack, warns it would 'pay a heavy price'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/27/white-house-accuses-syria-planning-another-chemical-attack-warns/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/27/white-house-accuses-syria-planning-another-chemical-attack-warns/)

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While the motive of the White House in releasing the classified information is unclear, it may have been done with the hope such a public warning might deter the Syrian president from another chemical strike. 

The statement appeared to take other agencies by surprise however.   

Centcom, the US Central Command, said they did not know what prompted the announcement, suggesting the White House had not coordinated with the national security agencies and departments before it was made on Monday evening, as is customary. 

Jim Mattis, defence secretary, today said the US-led coalition would not to be pulled into a war against the regime, saying it would keep a strict focus on fighting  Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil).

We won't fire "unless they are the enemy, unless they are ISIS," he said, using another acronym for the jihadist organisation. "We just refuse to get drawn into a fight there in the Syria civil war, we try to end that one through diplomatic engagement."
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - UK still vassal state of US Empire
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 27, 2017, 07:46:02 am
UK Backs Future US Military Action Against Syria, But Admits There Is No Evidence

https://southfront.org/uk-backs-future-us-military-action-syria/

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UK Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon said on Tuesday that his country is committed to any future US military actions against Syria and its military forces.

“As always in war, the military action you use must be justified, it must be legal, it must proportionate, it must be necessary. In the last case it was. If the Americans take similar action again, I want to be very clear, we will support it,” Fallon  told (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michael-fallon-uk-syria-military-action-bashar-al-assad-chemical-weapons-regime-us-donald-trump-a7809796.html) BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.


Fallon’s statement followed the White House’s claims that it has some “potential” evidence that the Bashar Assad government was preparing for a chemical weapons attack that “would likely result if the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children” in Syria. The White House added in a statement that if this is done, Syria and its military “will pay a heavy price.”

However, the UK defense secretary revealed that the US had not shared any specific evidence with the British Government about the chemical attack preparations. He added that he expected to discuss the situation with US Defence Secretary General James Mattis.

“Jim Mattis did review the various options with me last time before the final meeting with the President. I shall be seeing Secretary Mattis at the Nato meeting on Thursday. This is one of the matters we expect to review,” Fallon added.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 27, 2017, 07:59:40 am
White House: 'Another chemical weapons attack' potentially planned by Syria's Assad

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 27 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417220/white-house-another-chemical-weapons-attack-potentially-planned-syrias-assad

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‘The White House is warning Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad and military of “a heavy price,” as the US alleges “potential preparations” are under way for more chemical weapons attacks. The Trump administration insisted the US is there to “eliminate” ISIS.

“The United States has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the Assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children,” White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said in a statement Monday night. “The activities are similar to preparations the regime made before its April 4, 2017 chemical weapons attack.”

“As we have previously stated, the United States is in Syria to eliminate the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. If, however, Mr. Assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price.”‘


Read more: White House: ‘Another chemical weapons attack’ potentially planned by Syria’s Assad (https://www.rt.com/usa/394194-us-syria-another-chemical-weapons-attack/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? !!! Tulsi Gabbard !!!
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 27, 2017, 08:02:13 am
Media & establishment push for regime change but ignore consequences – Tulsi Gabbard (the consequences are what they want)

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 27 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417228/media-establishment-push-regime-change-ignore-consequences-tulsi-gabbard

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‘Most media outlets and politicians often ignore the deadly consequences of US regime change policy, including the rise of Islamic State, according to Representative Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii).

“I think that there has been a concerted effort both on the part of some in the media, as well as many in politics, and many in our foreign policy establishment seem to have been advocating for a continuance of these regime change wars, really ignoring the fact of what has been the consequence of these wars in countries like Iraq and Libya and Syria, where each time we have waged these wars, [it] has resulted in the strengthening of terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda or the creation of ISIS [Islamic State, IS, formerly ISIL], and it has resulted in a tremendous amount of suffering and death for the people of these countries,” said Gabbard at a press conference, answering a question from RT’s Caleb Maupin.’


VIDEO

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 27, 2017, 01:18:26 pm
I doubt its true, but you never know.

Last time Trump visited Syria with Tomahawk Cruise Missiles - its appeared that either the Russians shot down half of them, or its excuse time like blame operator errors etc..


https://twitter.com/petejohn10/status/877825007300231169

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 27, 2017, 02:25:49 pm
I think this is interesting . . .

Trump Involvement In Syria Missile Strike Is A Red Herring: It Was Always The Deep State

Brandon Turbeville
June 27 2017

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/06/trump-syria-strike-red-herring-deep-state.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 27, 2017, 02:32:36 pm
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The Moon of Alabama

White House Says It Will Fake "Chemical Weapon Attack" In Syria


The White House claims that the Syrian government is preparing "chemical weapon attacks". This is clearly not the case. Syria is winning the war against the country. Any such attack would clearly be to its disadvantage. The White House announcement must thereby be understood as preparation for another U.S. attack on Syria in "retaliation" for an upcoming staged "chemical weapon attack" which will be blamed on the Syrian government.

In August 2013 Syria invited inspectors of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons to investigate chemical weapons attacks on the Syrian army. As soon as the inspectors arrived in Damascus a "chemical attack" was staged in Ghouta near Damascus. Lots of Jihadist video coverage of killed children was published and the "western" media blamed the incident on the Syrian government. It never explained why targeting a militarily irrelevant area with chemical weapons at the same time as inspectors arrived would have been a rational decision for a Syrian government that was just regaining control and international standing.

The "attack" was clearly staged (http://whoghouta.blogspot.de/) by the opposition of the Syrian government and its foreign supporters. The Obama administration had planned to use it to launch U.S. attacks on the Syrian government but refrained from this when Russia arranged to remove Syria's strategic chemical weapons, aimed at Israel, instead.

In early 2017 the new U.S. president Trump made positive comments about the Syrian government. Assad can stay, he said. The Syrian military and its allies had gained the upper hand and were victorious on all fronts. Two days later (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/6/15210788/trump-syria-policy-assad-chemical-weapon-tillerson-obama) another "chemical attack" was staged in the al-Qaeda held town of Khan Sheikhun. Lots of Jihadi video coverage of killed children, likely prepared in advance, was spilled onto the "western" public. U.S. intelligence knew (https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905578/Trump-s-Red-Line.html) that no chemical attack by the Syrian government had taken place. But the Trump administration used the incident to launch a volley of cruise missiles against a Syrian military airport. The neoconservatives were delighted. They finally had Trump where they wanted him. The media coverage changed from damming Trump for his alleged "Russian connections" to lauding his decisiveness in response to the faked attack.

Late May the new French president Macron ostensibly changed his position towards the Syrian government. The hostile position of France (and other EU countries) against the Syrian president Assad that had been eminent throughout the last six years changed on a dime:

    Macron said that on Syria: “My profound conviction is that we need a political and diplomatic roadmap. We won’t solve the question only with military force. That is a collective error we have made. The real change I’ve made on this question, is that I haven’t said the deposing of Bashar al-Assad is a prerequisite for everything. Because no one has introduced me to his legitimate successor!

But Macron also added:

    "I have red lines on chemical weapons and humanitarian corridors. I said it very clearly to Vladimir Putin. I will be uncompromising on that. So the use of chemical weapons will be met with a response, and even if France acts alone.”

This immediately set off my warning lights:



Cont. reading: White House Says It Will Fake "Chemical Weapon Attack" In Syria
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/06/white-house-says-it-will-fake-chemical-weapon-attacks-in-syria.html#more
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - chemical weapons activity has been seen at Assad base
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 28, 2017, 05:16:06 am
Syrian chemical weapons activity has been seen at Assad regime base used for previous attacks, say Pentagon

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 28 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417382/syrian-chemical-weapons-activity-seen-assad-regime-base-used-previous-attacks-say-pentagon

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‘A warning from the administration of President Donald Trump that Syria’s government will “pay a heavy price” for any future chemical weapons attacks came after it observed similar activities on a base that had allegedly been used previously for sarin gas attacks in April.

According to the Pentagon, the activity indicates that the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is actively pursuing preparations at Shayrat airfield to use such weapons in its ongoing civil war that has torn the country apart. The US contends that the Assad regime used chemical weapons two months ago in an attack launched from Shayrat that killed dozens of civilians, prompting swift retribution from American military forces that fired 60 cruise missiles at the base.

Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said that the recent activity “involved specific aircraft in a specific hangar … Both of which we know to be associated with chemical weapons use”.

Mr Davis said the activity occurred during “the past day or two”. He did not say how the United States collected its intelligence.’


Read more: Syrian chemical weapons activity has been seen at Assad regime base used for previous attacks, say Pentagon (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/syria-chemical-weapons-pentagon-attack-bashar-al-assad-base-regime-us-donald-trump-a7810636.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Michael Fallon: "If US strikes Syria the UK will support"
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 28, 2017, 05:19:07 am
Sir Michael Fallon says UK backs future military action in retaliation to Assad regime using chemical weapons

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 28 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417361/sir-michael-fallon-says-uk-backs-future-military-action-retaliation-assad-regime-using-chemical-weapons

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‘Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon has committed the UK to backing future military action in Syria in retaliation for any use of chemical weapons by President Bashar al-Assad.

Sir Michael said action should be justified, legal and proportionate but stated that in those circumstances the UK’s support for US action by Donald Trump would be unwavering.

It comes after the White House has said it has “potential” evidence that Mr Assad’s military forces are preparing for another chemical attack on rebel forces.

Sir Michael told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “As always in war, the military action you use must be justified, it must be legal, it must proportionate, it must be necessary. In the last case it was. If the Americans take similar action again, I want to be very clear, we will support it.”‘


RT - Michael Fallon: "If US strikes Syria the UK will support"




Read more: Sir Michael Fallon says UK backs future military action in retaliation to Assad regime using chemical weapons (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michael-fallon-uk-syria-military-action-bashar-al-assad-chemical-weapons-regime-us-donald-trump-a7809796.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - White House Says It Will Fake 'Chemical Weapon Attack'
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 28, 2017, 05:22:58 am
White House Says It Will Fake 'Chemical Weapon Attack' in Syria

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 28 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417437/white-house-says-will-fake-chemical-weapon-attack-syria

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‘The White House claims that the Syrian government is preparing “chemical weapon attacks”. This is clearly not the case. Syria is winning the war against the country. Any such attack would clearly be to its disadvantage. The White House announcement must thereby be understood as preparation for another U.S. attack on Syria in “retaliation” for an upcoming staged “chemical weapon attack” which will be blamed on the Syrian government.

In August 2013 Syria invited inspectors of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons to investigate chemical weapons attacks on the Syrian army. As soon as the inspectors arrived in Damascus a “chemical attack” was staged in Ghouta near Damascus. Lots of Jihadist video coverage of killed children was published and the “western” media blamed the incident on the Syrian government. It never explained why targeting a militarily irrelevant area with chemical weapons at the same time as inspectors arrived would have been a rational decision for a Syrian government that was just regaining control and international standing.

The “attack” was clearly staged by the opposition of the Syrian government and its foreign supporters. The Obama administration had planned to use it to launch U.S. attacks on the Syrian government but refrained from this when Russia arranged to remove Syria’s strategic chemical weapons, aimed at Israel, instead.’


Read more: White House Says It Will Fake ‘Chemical Weapon Attack’ in Syria (http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/06/white-house-says-it-will-fake-chemical-weapon-attacks-in-syria.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? War On Terror - Zionist/Neocon - Redraw Map of Middle East
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 28, 2017, 05:28:11 am
Tuesday 27 June : Bollyn "The War On Terror Is a Zionist/Neocon Creation To Redraw The Middle East!"

Published on Jun 28, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaSBffVD-nE

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Seymour M. Hersh
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 28, 2017, 06:21:38 am
Seymour M. Hersh

Trump‘s Red Line
Von Seymour M. Hersh | Stand: 25.06.2017
President Donald Trump ignored important intelligence reports when he decided to attack Syria after he saw pictures of dying children. Seymour M. Hersh investigated the case of the alleged Sarin gas attack.
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On April 6, United States President Donald Trump authorized an early morning Tomahawk missile strike on Shayrat Air Base in central Syria in retaliation for what he said was a deadly nerve agent attack carried out by the Syrian government two days earlier in the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun. Trump issued the order despite having been warned by the U.S. intelligence community that it had found no evidence that the Syrians had used a chemical weapon.

The available intelligence made clear that the Syrians had targeted a jihadist meeting site on April 4 using a Russian-supplied guided bomb equipped with conventional explosives. Details of the attack,  including information on its so-called high-value targets, had been provided by the Russians days in advance to American and allied military officials in Doha, whose mission is to coordinate all U.S., allied, Syrian and Russian Air Force operations in the region.

Some American military and intelligence officials were especially distressed by the president's determination to ignore the evidence. "None of this makes any sense," one officer told colleagues upon learning of the decision to bomb. "We KNOW that there was no chemical attack ... the Russians are furious. Claiming we have the real intel and know the truth ... I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.“

Within hours of the April 4 bombing, the world’s media was saturated with photographs and videos from Khan Sheikhoun. Pictures of dead and dying victims, allegedly suffering from the symptoms of nerve gas poisoning, were uploaded to social media by local activists, including the White Helmets, a first responder group known for its close association with the Syrian opposition.

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The provenance of the photos was not clear and no international observers have yet inspected the site, but the immediate popular assumption worldwide was that this was a deliberate use of the nerve agent sarin, authorized by President Bashar Assad of Syria. Trump endorsed that assumption by issuing a statement within hours of the attack, describing Assad’s "heinous actions" as being a consequence of the Obama administration’s "weakness and irresolution" in addressing what he said was Syria’s past use of chemical weapons.

To the dismay of many senior members of his national security team, Trump could not be swayed over the next 48 hours of intense briefings and decision-making. In a series of interviews, I learned of the total disconnect between the president and many of his military advisers and intelligence officials, as well as officers on the ground in the region who had an entirely different understanding of the nature of Syria’s attack on Khan Sheikhoun. I was provided with evidence of that disconnect, in the form of transcripts of real-time communications, immediately following the Syrian attack on April 4. In an important pre-strike process known as deconfliction, U.S. and Russian officers routinely supply one another with advance details of planned flight paths and target coordinates, to ensure that there is no risk of collision or accidental encounter (the Russians speak on behalf of the Syrian military). This information is supplied daily to the American AWACS surveillance planes that monitor the flights once airborne. Deconfliction’s success and importance can be measured by the fact that there has yet to be one collision, or even a near miss, among the high-powered supersonic American, Allied, Russian and Syrian fighter bombers.
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Russian and Syrian Air Force officers gave details of the carefully planned flight path to and from Khan Shiekhoun on April 4 directly, in English, to the deconfliction monitors aboard the AWACS plane, which was on patrol near the Turkish border, 60 miles or more to the north.

The Syrian target at Khan Sheikhoun, as shared with the Americans at Doha, was depicted as a two-story cinder-block building in the northern part of town. Russian intelligence, which is shared when necessary with Syria and the U.S. as part of their joint fight against jihadist groups, had established that a high-level meeting of jihadist leaders was to take place in the building, including representatives of Ahrar al-Sham and the al-Qaida-affiliated group formerly known as Jabhat al-Nusra. The two groups had recently joined forces, and controlled the town and surrounding area. Russian intelligence depicted the cinder-block building as a command and control center that housed a grocery and other commercial premises on its ground floor with other essential shops nearby, including a fabric shop and an electronics store.

"The rebels control the population by controlling the distribution of goods that people need to live – food, water, cooking oil, propane gas, fertilizers for growing their crops, and insecticides to protect the crops," a senior adviser to the American intelligence community, who has served in senior positions in the Defense Department and Central Intelligence Agency, told me. The basement was used as storage for rockets, weapons and ammunition, as well as products that could be distributed for free to the community, among them medicines and chlorine-based decontaminants for cleansing the bodies of the dead before burial. The meeting place – a regional headquarters – was on the floor above. “It was an established meeting place,” the senior adviser said. “A long-time facility that would have had security, weapons, communications, files and a map center.” The Russians were intent on confirming their intelligence and deployed a drone for days above the site to monitor communications and develop what is known in the intelligence community as a POL – a pattern of life. The goal was to take note of those going in and out of the building, and to track weapons being moved back and forth, including rockets and ammunition.

One reason for the Russian message to Washington about the intended target was to ensure that any CIA asset or informant who had managed to work his way into the jihadist leadership was forewarned not to attend the meeting. I was told that the Russians passed the warning directly to the CIA. “They were playing the game right,” the senior adviser said. The Russian guidance noted that the jihadist meeting was coming at a time of acute pressure for the insurgents: Presumably Jabhat al-Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham were desperately seeking a path forward in the new political climate. In the last few days of March, Trump and two of his key national security aides – Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and UN Ambassador Nikki Haley – had made statements acknowledging that, as the New York Times put it, the White House “has abandoned the goal” of pressuring Assad "to leave power, marking a sharp departure from the Middle East policy that guided the Obama administration for more than five years.” White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told a press briefing on March 31 that “there is a political reality that we have to accept,” implying that Assad was there to stay.

Russian and Syrian intelligence officials, who coordinate operations closely with the American command posts, made it clear that the planned strike on Khan Sheikhoun was special because of the high-value target. “It was a red-hot change. The mission was out of the ordinary – scrub the sked,” the senior adviser told me. “Every operations officer in the region" – in the Army, Marine Corps, Air Force, CIA and NSA – “had to know there was something going on. The Russians gave the Syrian Air Force a guided bomb and that was a rarity. They’re skimpy with their guided bombs and rarely share them with the Syrian Air Force. And the Syrians assigned their best pilot to the mission, with the best wingman.” The advance intelligence on the target, as supplied by the Russians, was given the highest possible score inside the American community.

The Execute Order governing U.S. military operations in theater, which was issued by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,  provide instructions that demarcate the relationship between the American and Russian forces operating in Syria. “It’s like an ops order – ‘Here’s what you are authorized to do,’” the adviser said. “We do not share operational control with the Russians. We don’t do combined operations with them, or activities directly in support of one of their operations.  But coordination is permitted. We keep each other apprised of what’s happening and within this package is the mutual exchange of intelligence.  If we get a hot tip that could help the Russians do their mission, that’s coordination; and the Russians do the same for us. When we get a hot tip about a command and control facility,” the adviser added, referring to the target in Khan Sheikhoun, “we do what we can to help them act on it." “This was not a chemical weapons strike,” the adviser said. “That’s a fairy tale. If so, everyone involved in transferring, loading and arming the weapon – you’ve got to make it appear like a regular 500-pound conventional bomb – would be wearing Hazmat protective clothing in case of a leak. There would be very little chance of survival without such gear. Military grade sarin includes additives designed to increase toxicity and lethality. Every batch that comes out is maximized for death. That is why it is made. It is odorless and invisible and death can come within a minute. No cloud. Why produce a weapon that people can run away from?”

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The target was struck at 6:55 a.m. on April 4, just before midnight in Washington. A Bomb Damage Assessment (BDA) by the U.S. military later determined that the heat and force of the 500-pound Syrian bomb triggered  a series of secondary explosions that could have generated a huge toxic cloud that began to spread over the town, formed by the release of the fertilizers, disinfectants and other goods stored in the basement, its effect magnified by the dense morning air, which trapped the fumes close to the ground. According to intelligence estimates, the senior adviser said, the strike itself killed up to four jihadist leaders, and an unknown number of drivers and security aides. There is no confirmed count of the number of civilians killed by the poisonous gases that were released by the secondary explosions, although opposition activists reported that there were more than 80 dead, and outlets such as CNN have put the figure as high as 92. A team from Médecins Sans Frontières, treating victims from Khan Sheikhoun at a clinic 60 miles to the north, reported that “eight patients showed symptoms – including constricted pupils, muscle spasms and involuntary defecation – which are consistent with exposure to a neurotoxic agent such as sarin gas or similar compounds.” MSF also visited other hospitals that had received victims and found that patients there “smelled of bleach, suggesting that they had been exposed to chlorine.” In other words, evidence suggested that there was more than one chemical responsible for the symptoms observed, which would not have been the case if the Syrian Air Force – as opposition activists insisted – had dropped a sarin bomb, which has no percussive or ignition power to trigger secondary explosions. The range of symptoms is, however, consistent with the release of a mixture of chemicals, including chlorine and the organophosphates used in many fertilizers, which can cause neurotoxic effects similar to those of sarin.

The internet swung into action within hours, and gruesome photographs of the victims flooded television networks and YouTube. U.S. intelligence was tasked with establishing what had happened. Among the pieces of information received was an intercept of Syrian communications collected before the attack by an allied nation. The intercept, which had a particularly strong effect on some of Trump’s aides, did not mention nerve gas or sarin, but it did quote a Syrian general discussing a “special” weapon and the need for a highly skilled pilot to man the attack plane. The reference, as those in the American intelligence community understood, and many of the inexperienced aides and family members close to Trump may not have, was to a Russian-supplied bomb with its built-in guidance system. “If you’ve already decided it was a gas attack, you will then inevitably read the talk about a special weapon as involving a sarin bomb,” the adviser said. “Did the Syrians plan the attack on Khan Sheikhoun? Absolutely. Do we have intercepts to prove it? Absolutely. Did they plan to use sarin? No. But the president did not say: ‘We have a problem and let’s look into it.’ He wanted to bomb the shit out of Syria.”

At the UN the next day, Ambassador Haley created a media sensation when she displayed photographs of the dead and accused Russia of being complicit. “How many more children have to die before Russia cares?” she asked. NBC News, in a typical report that day, quoted American officials as confirming that nerve gas had been used and Haley tied the attack directly to Syrian President Assad. "We know that yesterday’s attack was a new low even for the barbaric Assad regime,” she said. There was irony in America's rush to blame Syria and criticize Russia for its support of Syria's denial of any use of gas in Khan Sheikhoun, as Ambassador Haley and others in Washington did. "What doesn't occur to most Americans" the adviser said, "is if there had been a Syrian nerve gas attack authorized by Bashar, the Russians would be 10 times as upset as anyone in the West. Russia’s strategy against ISIS, which involves getting American cooperation, would have been destroyed and Bashar would be responsible for pissing off Russia, with unknown consequences for him. Bashar would do that? When he’s on the verge of winning the war? Are you kidding me?”

Trump, a constant watcher of television news, said, while King Abdullah of Jordan was sitting next to him in the Oval Office, that what had happened was “horrible, horrible” and a “terrible affront to humanity.” Asked if his administration would change its policy toward the Assad government, he said: “You will see.” He gave a hint of the response to come at the subsequent news conference with King Abdullah: “When you kill innocent children, innocent babies – babies, little babies – with a chemical gas that is so lethal  ... that crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line . ... That attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me. Big impact ... It’s very, very possible ... that my attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much.”

Within hours of viewing the photos, the adviser said, Trump instructed the national defense apparatus to plan for retaliation against Syria. “He did this before he talked to anybody about it. The planners then asked the CIA and DIA if there was any evidence that Syria had sarin stored at a nearby airport or somewhere in the area. Their military had to have it somewhere in the area in order to bomb with it.” “The answer was, ‘We have no evidence that Syria had sarin or used it,’” the adviser said. “The CIA also told them that there was no residual delivery for sarin at Sheyrat [the airfield from which the Syrian SU-24 bombers had taken off on April 4] and Assad had no motive to commit political suicide.” Everyone involved, except perhaps the president, also understood that a highly skilled United Nations team had spent more than a year in the aftermath of an alleged sarin attack in 2013 by Syria, removing what was said to be all chemical weapons from a dozen Syrian chemical weapons depots.

At this point, the adviser said, the president’s national security planners were more than a little rattled: “No one knew the provenance of the photographs. We didn’t know who the children were or how they got hurt. Sarin actually is very easy to detect because it penetrates paint, and all one would have to do is get a paint sample. We knew there was a cloud and we knew it hurt people. But you cannot jump from there to certainty that Assad had hidden sarin from the UN because he wanted to use it in Khan Sheikhoun.” The intelligence made clear that a Syrian Air Force SU-24 fighter bomber had used a conventional weapon to hit its target: There had been no chemical warhead. And yet it was impossible for the experts to persuade the president of this once he had made up his mind. “The president saw the photographs of poisoned little girls and said it was an Assad atrocity,” the senior adviser said. “It’s typical of human nature. You jump to the conclusion you want. Intelligence analysts do not argue with a president. They’re not going to tell the president, ‘if you interpret the data this way, I quit.’”

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The national security advisers understood their dilemma: Trump wanted to respond to the affront to humanity committed by Syria and he did not want to be dissuaded. They were dealing with a man they considered to be not unkind and not stupid, but his limitations when it came to national security decisions were severe. "Everyone close to him knows his proclivity for acting precipitously when he does not know the facts," the adviser said. "He doesn’t read anything and has no real historical knowledge. He wants verbal briefings and photographs. He’s a risk-taker. He can accept the consequences of a bad decision in the business world; he will just lose money. But in our world, lives will be lost and there will be long-term damage to our national security if he guesses wrong. He was told we did not have evidence of Syrian involvement and yet Trump says: 'Do it.”’

On April 6, Trump convened a meeting of national security officials at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. The meeting was not to decide what to do, but how best to do it – or, as some wanted, how to do the least and keep Trump happy. “The boss knew before the meeting that they didn’t have the intelligence, but that was not the issue,” the adviser said. “The meeting was about, ‘Here’s what I’m going to do,' and then he gets the options.”

The available intelligence was not relevant. The most experienced man at the table was Secretary of Defense James Mattis, a retired Marine Corps general who had the president’s respect and understood, perhaps, how quickly that could evaporate. Mike Pompeo, the CIA director whose agency had consistently reported that it had no evidence of a Syrian chemical bomb, was not present. Secretary of State Tillerson was admired on the inside for his willingness to work long hours and his avid reading of diplomatic cables and reports, but he knew little about waging war and the management of a bombing raid. Those present were in a bind, the adviser said. “The president was emotionally energized by the disaster and he wanted options.” He got four of them, in order of extremity. Option one was to do nothing. All involved, the adviser said, understood that was a non-starter. Option two was a slap on the wrist: to bomb an airfield in Syria, but only after alerting the Russians and, through them, the Syrians, to avoid too many casualties. A few of the planners called this the “gorilla option”: America would glower and beat its chest to provoke fear and demonstrate resolve, but cause little significant damage. The third option was to adopt the strike package that had been presented to Obama in 2013, and which he ultimately chose not to pursue. The plan called for the massive bombing of the main Syrian airfields and command and control centers using B1 and B52 aircraft launched from their bases in the U.S. Option four was “decapitation”: to remove Assad by bombing his palace in Damascus, as well as his command and control network and all of the underground bunkers he could possibly retreat to in a crisis.

“Trump ruled out option one off the bat,” the senior adviser said, and the assassination of Assad was never considered. “But he said, in essence: ‘You’re the military and I want military action.’” The president was also initially opposed to the idea of giving the Russians advance warning before the strike, but reluctantly accepted it. “We gave him the Goldilocks option – not too hot, not too cold, but just right.” The discussion had its bizarre moments. Tillerson wondered at the Mar-a-Lago meeting why the president could not simply call in the B52 bombers and pulverize the air base. He was told that B52s were very vulnerable to surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) in the area and using such planes would require suppression fire that could kill some Russian defenders.  “What is that?” Tillerson asked. Well, sir, he was told, that means we would have to destroy the upgraded SAM sites along the B52 flight path, and those are manned by Russians, and we possibly would be confronted with a much more difficult situation. “The lesson here was: Thank God for the military men at the meeting,” the adviser said. "They did the best they could when confronted with a decision that had already been made."

Fifty-nine Tomahawk missiles were fired from two U.S. Navy destroyers on duty in the Mediterranean, the Ross and the Porter, at Shayrat Air Base near the government-controlled city of Homs. The strike was as successful as hoped, in terms of doing minimal damage. The missiles have a light payload – roughly 220 pounds of HBX, the military’s modern version of TNT. The airfield’s gasoline storage tanks, a primary target, were pulverized, the senior adviser said, triggering a huge fire and clouds of smoke that interfered with the guidance system of following missiles. As many as 24 missiles missed their targets and only a few of the Tomahawks actually penetrated into hangars, destroying nine Syrian aircraft, many fewer than claimed by the Trump administration. I was told that none of the nine was operational: such damaged aircraft are what the Air Force calls hangar queens. “They were sacrificial lambs,” the senior adviser said. Most of the important personnel and operational fighter planes had been flown to nearby bases hours before the raid began. The two runways and parking places for aircraft, which had also been targeted, were repaired and back in operation within eight hours or so. All in all, it was little more than an expensive fireworks display.

“It was a totally Trump show from beginning to end,” the senior adviser said. “A few of the president’s senior national security advisers viewed the mission as a minimized bad presidential decision, and one that they had an obligation to carry out. But I don’t think our national security people are going to allow themselves to be hustled into a bad decision again. If Trump had gone for option three, there might have been some immediate resignations.”

After the meeting, with the Tomahawks on their way, Trump spoke to the nation from Mar-a-Lago, and accused Assad of using nerve gas to choke out “the lives of helpless men, women and children. It was a slow and brutal death for so many ... No child of God should ever suffer such horror.” The next few days were his most successful as president. America rallied around its commander in chief, as it always does in times of war. Trump, who had campaigned as someone who advocated making peace with Assad, was bombing Syria 11 weeks after taking office, and was hailed for doing so by Republicans, Democrats and the media alike. One prominent TV anchorman, Brian Williams of MSNBC, used the word “beautiful” to describe the images of the Tomahawks being launched at sea. Speaking on CNN, Fareed Zakaria said: “I think Donald Trump became president of the United States.” A review of the top 100 American newspapers showed that 39 of them published editorials supporting the bombing in its aftermath, including the New York Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal.

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Five days later, the Trump administration gathered the national media for a background briefing on the Syrian operation that was conducted by a senior White House official who was not to be identified. The gist of the briefing was that Russia’s heated and persistent denial of any sarin use in the Khan Sheikhoun bombing was a lie because President Trump had said sarin had been used. That assertion, which was not challenged or disputed by any of the reporters present, became the basis for a series of further criticisms:

     - The continued lying by the Trump administration about Syria’s use of sarin led to widespread belief in the American media and public  that Russia had  chosen to be involved in a corrupt disinformation and cover-up campaign on the part of Syria.

     - Russia’s military forces had been co-located with Syria’s at the Shayrat airfield (as they are throughout Syria), raising the possibility that Russia had advance notice of Syria’s determination to use sarin at Khan Sheikhoun and did nothing to stop it.

      - Syria’s use of sarin and Russia’s defense of that use strongly suggested that Syria withheld stocks of the nerve agent from the UN disarmament team that spent much of 2014 inspecting and removing all declared chemical warfare agents from 12 Syrian chemical weapons depots, pursuant to the agreement worked out by the Obama administration and Russia after Syria’s alleged, but still unproven, use of sarin the year before against a rebel redoubt in a suburb of Damascus.

The briefer, to his credit, was careful to use the words “think,” “suggest” and “believe” at least 10 times during the 30-minute event. But he also said that his briefing was based on data that had been declassified by “our colleagues in the intelligence community.” What the briefer did not say, and may not have known, was that much of the classified information in the community made the point that Syria had not used sarin in the April 4 bombing attack.

The mainstream press responded the way the White House had hoped it would: Stories attacking Russia’s alleged cover-up of Syria’s sarin use dominated the news and many media outlets ignored the briefer’s myriad caveats. There was a sense of renewed Cold War. The New York Times, for example – America’s leading newspaper – put the following headline on its account: “White House Accuses Russia of Cover-Up in Syria Chemical Attack.” The Times’ account did note a Russian denial, but what was described by the briefer as “declassified information” suddenly became a “declassified intelligence report.” Yet there was no formal intelligence report stating that Syria had used sarin, merely a "summary based on declassified information about the attacks," as the briefer referred to it.

The crisis slid into the background by the end of April, as Russia, Syria and the United States remained focused on annihilating ISIS and the militias of al-Qaida. Some of those who had worked through the crisis, however, were left with lingering concerns. “The Salafists and jihadists got everything they wanted out of their hyped-up Syrian nerve gas ploy,” the senior adviser to the U.S. intelligence community told me, referring to the flare up of tensions between Syria, Russia and America. “The issue is, what if there’s another false flag sarin attack credited to hated Syria? Trump has upped the ante and painted himself into a corner with his decision to bomb. And do not think these guys are not planning the next faked attack. Trump will have no choice but to bomb again, and harder. He’s incapable of saying he made a mistake.”

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 27 - ISIS Launches Surprise Counter-Attack
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 28, 2017, 09:39:06 am
Battle For Mosul – June 27, 2017: ISIS Launches Surprise Counter-Attack

https://southfront.org/battle-for-mosul-june-27-2017-isis-launches-surprise-counter-attack/

Last weekend ISIS launched a large-scale surprise attack against government forces in the Iraqi city of Mosul. Terrorists attacked the neighborhoods of al-Tanak, Nahrwan, and al-Yarmuk, engaging Iraqi security forces (ISF) in a series of intense firefights. While ISF was fighting terrorists in the Old Mosul area, ISIS used underground tunnels and sleeper cells to push the attack deep inside the government-held part of western Mosul.

By Tuesday, ISIS had allegedly captured the embattled neighborhoods despite ISF attempts to launch counter-terrorism raids in the area.

The ISIS advance disrupted the Iraqi government plan to liberate the entire city by the end of June, a plan which, although unofficial, was widely promoted in the media.

Meanwhile, two ISIS members opened fire on a police officer in Al-Jazar district in eastern Mosul. The militants were killed as a result of that clash.

Despite the recent developments, the ISF successfully advanced inside Old Mosul and captured the Al-Farooq neighborhood there.

ISIS does not have enough resources to change the course of the battle but it is still able to make serious problems for ISF troops operating in the city. ISIS claims that during the last month, its members killed 690 ISF servicemen, destroyed 2 battle tanks, 45 Humvees, 5 BMP vehicles, 13 bulldozers, and 29 other vehicles, as well as downing 26 drones and 3 helicopters belonging to the Iraqi military.

The recent developments demonstrate that even when Mosul is officially declared free from ISIS, the real security situation inside the city will remain very complicated.

In any case, the liberation of Mosul is an important step in a wider effort aimed at expelling ISIS from Iraq and Syria. This will allow the Iraqi army and the Popular Mobilization Units to focus on anti-ISIS operations in the border area with Syria and to clear western Iraq from ISIS terrorists.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 28, 2017: US Launches Campaign To Justify Military Act
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 28, 2017, 11:59:18 am
Syrian War Report – June 28, 2017: US Launches Campaign To Justify Military Action Against Syria

https://southfront.org/battle-for-mosul-june-27-2017-isis-launches-surprise-counter-attack/

Voiceover by Harold Hoover

Last weekend ISIS launched a large-scale surprise attack against government forces in the Iraqi city of Mosul. Terrorists attacked the neighborhoods of al-Tanak, Nahrwan, and al-Yarmuk, engaging Iraqi security forces (ISF) in a series of intense firefights. While ISF was fighting terrorists in the Old Mosul area, ISIS used underground tunnels and sleeper cells to push the attack deep inside the government-held part of western Mosul.

By Tuesday, ISIS had allegedly captured the embattled neighborhoods despite ISF attempts to launch counter-terrorism raids in the area.

The ISIS advance disrupted the Iraqi government plan to liberate the entire city by the end of June, a plan which, although unofficial, was widely promoted in the media.

Meanwhile, two ISIS members opened fire on a police officer in Al-Jazar district in eastern Mosul. The militants were killed as a result of that clash.

Despite the recent developments, the ISF successfully advanced inside Old Mosul and captured the Al-Farooq neighborhood there.

ISIS does not have enough resources to change the course of the battle but it is still able to make serious problems for ISF troops operating in the city. ISIS claims that during the last month, its members killed 690 ISF servicemen, destroyed 2 battle tanks, 45 Humvees, 5 BMP vehicles, 13 bulldozers, and 29 other vehicles, as well as downing 26 drones and 3 helicopters belonging to the Iraqi military.

The recent developments demonstrate that even when Mosul is officially declared free from ISIS, the real security situation inside the city will remain very complicated.

In any case, the liberation of Mosul is an important step in a wider effort aimed at expelling ISIS from Iraq and Syria. This will allow the Iraqi army and the Popular Mobilization Units to focus on anti-ISIS operations in the border area with Syria and to clear western Iraq from ISIS terrorists.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Israeli Air Force Conducts Another Strike On Syrian Army
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jun 29, 2017, 06:14:51 am
Israeli Air Force Conducts Another Strike On Syrian Army Positions In Quneitra

https://southfront.org/israeli-air-forces-conducts-another-strike-on-syrian-army-positions-in-quneitra/

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Syrian Air Force attack helicopters bombed positions and vehicles of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) in the western countryside of Daraa.

Attack helicopters carried out 18 strikes and destroyed the headquarters and armored vehicles of the Al-Haq Division and HTS positions in Ash’ari, Jisr al-Ash’ari, Mzareeb and Al-Ajmi villages.


HTS and its allies again tried to attack SAA positions in Al-Bath city in Quneitra. However, the SAA have managed to prevent them from achieving any gains. It’s worth mentioning that SAA only lost one point during the last attack south of Al-Ba’ath. According to sources in the SAA, government forces are now working to recapture the point.

The Israeli Air Force targeted the SAA for the fourth time in less than a week. The Israeli warplane destroyed an SAA gun south of Al-Ba’ath city.

The Israeli Army once again claimed that the strike was a response after a mortar fired from the Syrian side fall inside the Israeli-controlled territories.

If the SAA achieves success in defeating HTS and its allies in Al-Ba’ath, the SAA may launch more operations in Daraa city or in Al-Ba’ath soon.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Spy planes & aircraft carrier
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 29, 2017, 06:21:52 am
Spy planes & aircraft carrier: US boosts presence off Syria amid WMD accusations

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 29 JUNE 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417495/spy-planes-aircraft-carrier-us-boosts-presence-off-syria-amid-wmd-accusations

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‘US surveillance planes have intensified flights off the coast of Syria after Washington accused Damascus of plotting a chemical attack. Meanwhile, the aircraft carrier USS George H. W. Bush is en route to the Israeli port of Haifa.

Enthusiasts monitoring air traffic in the region have logged the flights of three types of US spy planes – the RC-135U Combat Sent, RC-135V Rivet Joint, and the P-8A Poseidon – off the coast of Syria over the past week.

All three planes were active Tuesday after the White House publicly claimed the government in Syria was preparing a chemical attack and warned Damascus would “pay a heavy price” if it was carried out…

…On Wednesday, US officials insinuated that their threats had persuaded Damascus to abandon attack plans.

“It appears that they took the warning seriously,” US Defense Secretary James Mattis told reporters on his way to Brussels for a NATO meeting. “They didn’t do it.”

“I can tell you that due to the president’s actions, we did not see an incident,” said the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley. Trump’s actions “saved many innocent men, women and children,” she told the House Foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday.’


Read more: Spy planes & aircraft carrier: US boosts presence off Syria amid WMD accusations (https://www.rt.com/usa/394495-spy-planes-carrier-syria/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - US Launches Hideous Propaganda Campaign
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 29, 2017, 06:24:16 am
US Launches Hideous Propaganda Campaign to Justify Military Action Against Syria

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 29 JUNE 2017 GM
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417536/us-launches-hideous-propaganda-campaign-justify-military-action-syria

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - A House of Cards
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 29, 2017, 06:28:28 am
Trump’s Syrian Chemical Weapons Claims: A House of Cards

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 29 JUNE 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417531/trumps-syrian-chemical-weapons-claims-house-cards

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‘In the latest season of the Netflix drama House of Cards, the fictional administration of President Francis Underwood and Vice President Claire Underwood, facing a domestic political crisis, uses a manufactured chemical weapons attack in Syria to declare war on the country.

In a case of politics following art, the Trump administration has accused the Syrian government of “preparing” to use chemical weapons against the civilian population. No evidence has been presented to back up the concocted threat.

On Monday, Press Secretary Sean Spicer declared that the US had “identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the Assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children.” If Syrian President Bashar al-Assad “conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons,” the statement continued, “he and his military will pay a heavy price.”

Washington’s ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, added Tuesday, “The goal is at this point not just to send Assad a message, but to send Russia and Iran a message… That if this happens again, we are putting you on notice.”

In other words, any alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria could be used to justify war against Iran and Russia.’


Read more: Trump’s Syrian Chemical Weapons Claims: A House of Cards (http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/06/28/pers-j28.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Trump Plays Nuclear ‘Chicken’ with Putin
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jun 29, 2017, 06:29:56 am
Trump Plays Nuclear ‘Chicken’ with Putin Over Syria

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 29 JUNE 2017 GMT MIDDLE EAST NEWS,  WAR AND TERROR
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417538/trump-plays-nuclear-chicken-putin-syria

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U.S. President Donald Trump is playing a game of nuclear “chicken” with Russian President Vladimir Putin, regarding Putin’s threat on June 19th to go to war against the United States if the U.S. again shoots down, inside Syria — in the sovereign territory of the internationally-recognized-as-legal sovereign Syrian government — Syrian aircraft, or the aircraft of any of the foreign governments that have allied with Syria: Russia, Iran, and China.

After the U.S. had shot down a Syrian government plane on June 19th, which was bombing jihadists whom the U.S. government backs in order to overthrow the Syrian government, Russia announced:

“In areas where Russian aviation is conducting combat missions in the Syrian skies, any flying objects, including jets and unmanned aerial vehicles of the international coalition discovered west of the Euphrates River, will be followed by Russian air and ground defenses as air targets” — meaning ordered out, or else immediately shot down.

That would place the U.S. and Russia in a traditional war against each other, over Syrian territory (Russia to protect Syria’s government, U.S. to replace it by a Saudi-allied jihadist one).’


Read more: Trump Plays Nuclear ‘Chicken’ with Putin Over Syri (http://www.globalresearch.ca/trump-plays-nuclear-chicken-with-putin-over-syria/5596512)a
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jun 29, 2017, 04:30:29 pm
White House Prepares Another Chemical Weapon False Flag Attack in Syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu6Uk_1NVQY
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jun 29, 2017, 06:33:58 pm
White House Prepares Another Chemical Weapon False Flag Attack in Syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu6Uk_1NVQY


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jun 29, 2017, 10:32:16 pm
Kabuki dance in advance of Trump-Putin G20 meeting'
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/394587-syria-mattis-haley-saving-lives/

The American UN envoy’s statement about ‘saving lives in Syria’ means claiming credit for the non-occurrence of an event that is unlikely to have occurred
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 29, 2017: Desert Hawks Brigade
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 01, 2017, 02:28:53 am
Syrian War Report – June 29, 2017: Desert Hawks Brigade Deploys Large Reinforcements To Eastern Hama

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-29-2017-desert-hakws-brigade-deploys-large-reinforcements-for-battle-against-isis/#disqus_thread

The Desert Hawks Brigade has deployed large reinforcements in order to support the expected Syrian army advance against ISIS in the Eastern Hama countryside.

A video showing a Desert Hawks Brigade military convoy appeared online showing two Shilka vehicles, 3 modified BMP-1 vehicles, 3 new BMP-2 vehicles, a T-72B1 battle tank, three T-90A battle tanks, and three Gvozdika self-propelled guns.  According to sources from the brigade, this convoy is just a part of the force that will participate in the operation.

Government forces are aiming to liberate the strategic ISIS town of Aqirbat as well as secure the road heading to the Palmyra.

The Syrian Army and its allies set up a fortified military base south of the Zaza triangle at the Al Tanf road.  The base includes fortifications, artillery pieces, and armored vehicles.  The Syrian army aims to strengthen its presence in the area in order to be ready for any possible advance by US-backed militant groups.

Government forces have captured some positions from ISIS 10 km east of the Arak gas field in the countryside of Palmyra.  The army also established control of nearly the entire road between the T2 and T3 pumping stations.

A battle is ongoing near the strategic Humaima village, located within 80 km from the ISIS-held town of al-Bukamal.  Humaima and the T2 pumping station are mid-term goals of the Syrian military.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition, have captured Hattin district and advanced on ISIS in the Nahda district of Raqqah city where an intense fight is ongoing.

Local sources report that the US-led coalition air force and military strikes by US Marines play a key role in the SDF strategy inside the city.  The SDF simply calls in military strikes on any ISIS strong point that it sees in the nearby area.  However, ISIS actively uses tunnels preventing SDF units from rapid advances.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria - June 30, 2017: Government Advance Against ISIS
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 01, 2017, 02:33:19 am
Syrian War Report – June 29, 2017: Government Advance Against ISIS

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-30-2017-government-advance-isis/

Syrian government forces, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, have fully secured the important village of Humaima following about a week of clashes with ISIS terrorists in the border area with Iraq. The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allies continued advancing in the direction of the T2 pumping station in southern Deir Ezzor.

Meanwhile, some pro-government media spread rumors that US-led coalition troops may leave their garrisons in At Tanf and al-Zquf. However, this seems unlikely in the nearest future because the garrisons in the area allow the coalition to control a chunk of the Syrian borders with Jordan and Iraq.

The SAA Tiger Forces, Liwa al-Quds and the National Defense Forces made gains against ISIS east of the Ithriyah-Khanasir road. Government troops have liberated the villages of Al-Shreima, Jadidah and Rasm Askar as well as several strategic hills east of Khansir.

Separately, the Tiger Forces have retaken Bir Abu Al’Allaj and entered the Habbari field area where clashes are now ongoing. ISIS has conducted an attack against the SAA east of Resafa but failed to break the SAA defense.

In eastern Damascus, the SAA advanced in the Ayn Tarma area and took few buildings near Al-Sanabel gas station. The SAA also reached the Ayn Tarma Roundabout and imposed a fire control over it.

Faylaq al-Rahman claimed that it managed to destroy a bulldozer of the SAA with an ATGM in Ayn Tarma. It also claimed to destroy a SAA tank in Jobar district.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have captured the villages of Kasrat Affan and Mustajd Naqib in the southern Raqqah countryside.

An ISIS VBIED targeted a gathering of SDF troops in Al-Mashlabi district. Another VBIED targeted the SDF in Al-Sabahia village west of Raqqa. No confirmed reports about casualties in the SDF ranks are available online.
Summing up the recent events, ISIS is collapsing on multiple frontlines in Syria under the pressure of the SAA and the SDF. At the same time, the so-called moderate opposition backed up by the US and its regional allies are focused on attempts to make some progress against government forces in southern Syria.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 01, 2017, 02:39:16 pm
MSM Distorts OPCW Non-Confirmed Report That Assad Used Sarin In Chemical Attack

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 1 JULY 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417880/msm-distorts-opcw-non-confirmed-report-assad-used-sarin-chemical-attack

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‘CNN and other corporate media outlets are once again alight with “proof” that Assad used chemical weapons against civilians in Khan Sheikhoun. So what, exactly, is their proof? Well, they don’t have any. That shouldn’t be surprising in and of itself but it is at least entertaining the lengths to which corporate media outlets and Western governments will go to blame their own crimes against humanity on the Syrian government in order to justify new Western crimes against humanity.

Nevertheless, the Western corporate media is eagerly reporting the OPCW (Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons) has “found” that sarin was indeed used at Khan Sheikoun, then spending the rest of their “reports” pointing the finger at the government of Bashar al-Assad.

In this regard, two points must be made.’

Read more: MSM Distorts OPCW Non-Confirmed Report That Assad Used Sarin In Chemical Attack (http://www.activistpost.com/2017/06/msm-distorts-opcw-report-assad-sarin-chemical-attack.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Dude447 on Jul 01, 2017, 04:33:06 pm
Short of all out war against Assad, this particular Anglo/USA regime change is fucked
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 01, 2017, 05:01:34 pm
Short of all out war against Assad, this particular Anglo/USA regime change is fucked

Problem is they actually want to use Syria to start a War with Iran, and risk all out war with Russia and China.

Trust me on this one,
Russia & China have some sort of treaty that if one gets attacked the other will come to its aid.
In other words, if NATO goes for Russia, then China will declare war on NATO, or vice a versa Russia would aid China.

Sure I got no specific proof, but think about it.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US Marines Rain Steel on ISIS in Syria
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 02, 2017, 09:59:47 am
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Marines (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHstNaT6R-1zA0lBU_XBr_Q)

Artillery Marines Rain Steel on ISIS in Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuAuWnK5uF4
Published on Jul 1, 2017

Marines in Syria show ISIS why artillery is the king of battle.

(U.S. Marine Corps video by Sgt. Matthew Callahan)

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Washington, Tel-Aviv and Riyadh Colluding to Escalate
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 02, 2017, 10:39:45 am
Washington, Tel-Aviv and Riyadh Colluding to Escalate Conflict in Syria and Beyond

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 2 JULY 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/417943/washington-tel-aviv-riyadh-colluding-escalate-conflict-syria-beyond

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‘As Washington’s hyperbole and aggression in Syria increase in line with their frustration at being out-smarted and out maneuvered at every turn by a battle hardened Syrian Arab Army, we see exposed, the soft underbelly of Riyadh. Tel-Aviv and Washington’s unholy alliance and its even unholier geopolitical agenda in the region.

Lines are blurred between the US overworld rogue state and its underworld terrorist proxies on the ground, committing atrocities on a daily basis against the SAA and the Syrian people on behalf of the three main protagonists in this expansionist war. Distinctions are harder to make between the war crimes and International law violations by the US & Israel in the ‘overworld’ and the bloodthirsty, quasi-satanic exploits of Riyadh’s ‘Orcs’ in the underworld. For each of these slavering, rapacious states, Iran is the ultimate prey and Syria is the bridge to a global conflict that would threaten the existence of our planet.’

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Read more: Washington, Tel-Aviv and Riyadh Colluding to Escalate Conflict in Syria and Beyond (http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/07/01/syria-washington-tel-aviv-riyadh-colluding-to-escalate-conflict-in-syria-and-beyond/)


Title: Re: Syrian War Report – July 3, 2017: ISIS Collapsed In Eastern Aleppo
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 03, 2017, 11:15:17 am
Syrian War Report – July 3, 2017: ISIS Collapsed In Eastern Aleppo

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-3-2017-isis-collapsed-in-eastern-aleppo/

Pro-government forces, led by the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces, have fully expelled ISIS terrorists from the area east of the Khanasir-Ithriyah road. Initially, the Tiger Forces took control over the entire Ithriyah-Resafa road, including the Habbari oil field and nearby points. Then, after a series of firefights with ISIS terrorists, government troops cleared the remaining ISIS-held pocket in eastern Aleppo.

With this advance, the SAA shortened the frontline with ISIS in the area and got a useful supply line to its strong point of Resafa. In the current situation, government forces will likely develop momentum against ISIS terrorists east of Salamiyah. If the SAA and its allies secure the road between Salamiyah and Palmyra, they will further shorten the frontline and repel any possible ISIS counter-attack on the Tiyas Airbase that may threaten the supply lines of government forces operating against ISIS east of Palmyra.

Faylaq Al-Rahman has followed the White House’s advice and blamed the Syrian government for using chemical weapons against its members in the Eastern Ghouta region near Damascus. The militant group accused the SAA of using chlorine gas at the Ayn Tarma front after it had failed to advance in the area. Faylaq Al-Rahman said that 30 of its fighters were poisoned and added that the SAA once again used chlorine at the Zamalka front north Ayn Tarma. The Syrian Defense Ministry released a statement denying those claims and saying these reports are a pure propaganda.

In late June, the White House launched a large-scale media campaign preparing public opinion for further attacks against the Syrian government. The Trump administration claimed that it had some secret evidence that the Assad government was preparing for a chemical weapons attack in the country. The UK and France added that they would support any US military action against Syria.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) captured Hussainiya and Kasrat Mohamed Ali, and advanced on Ratlah in the southern Raqqah countryside. The US-backed force expanded its operations in the area after it failed to weed out the ISIS resistance insider Raqqah despite a desperate bombing campaign by the US-led coalition. The SDF is attempting to enter the Old Raqqah area, but this is a complicated task because clashes in al-Sinaa and Rawdah are still ongoing. ISIS claimed that 74 SDF fighters have been killed and 12 others wounded by its snipers so far in the city.

The US Marines have released a video showing its artillery unit supporting the SDF advance in Raqqah. Some people suggested that the video allows seeing alleged phosphorus shells prepared for usage.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 03, 2017, 11:30:34 am
When Will Russia Challenge US and Israeli Aggression in Syria?

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 3 JULY 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418070/will-russia-challenge-us-israeli-aggression-syria

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‘Washington, Israel and their rogue allies are at war on Syria – naked aggression against a sovereign independent state threatening no one.

Both countries supply ISIS and other terrorists with arms, munitions and other material support – supported by terror-bombing, daily by US warplanes, Israel at its discretion, its sixth attack in the last 10 days occurring Saturday, an unjustifiably pretext cited like all previous incidents, saying:

“In response to projectiles launched earlier today at Israel from Syria, Israeli forces targeted the Syrian military artillery position that was the source of the previous fire.”

No casualties or damage was reported. So-called errant mortar fire or other projectiles almost certainly came from US and Israeli-supported terrorists – providing unjustifiable justification for IDF aggression.

Why would Syrian forces risk it by any live fire aimed in the direction of Israel’s border? Why would they use toxic agents of any kind when they’re smashing US-supported terrorists by conventional warfare?

US and Israeli aggression aim solely to support ISIS and other terrorists used as imperial foot soldiers – notably now in the face of their heavy losses.’


Read more: When Will Russia Challenge US and Israeli Aggression in Syria? (http://stephenlendman.org/2017/07/will-russia-challenge-us-israeli-aggression-syria/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Moscow slams latest claim of Toxic Gas
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 04, 2017, 03:53:00 am
‘Chemical show’: Moscow slams latest claim of toxic gas use in Syria

By Andrew Cheetham on 4 July 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418122/chemical-show-moscow-slams-latest-claim-toxic-gas-use-syria

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‘Western media are putting on a ‘chemical show’ fueled by carefully crafted messages that pin the blame on Damascus for the alleged use of chemical weapons, Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman has said in response to the rebels’ latest claims of toxic gas attacks by Syria’s government.

On Saturday, the Failaq Al-Rahman group, an Islamist Syrian rebel cell affiliated with the Free Syrian Army (FSA) accused Damascus of discharging chlorine gas in two neighborhoods of the Eastern Ghouta region, where the rebels are engaging Syrian government forces.

The statement produced on behalf of the FSA is nothing more than a “testament” of the official disinformation campaign which has already been launched against the government of Syria, Maria Zakharova said in her Facebook post Monday night.’


Read more: ‘Chemical show’: Moscow slams latest claim of toxic gas use in Syria (https://www.rt.com/news/395196-syria-chemical-weapons-show-zakharova/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 05, 2017, 04:20:12 am

Putin: We Protect Syria’s 'Statehood' to Prevent it Becoming Like Libya

By Andrew Cheetham on 5 July 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418279/saudi-arabia-major-foreign-sponsor-extremism-uk-think-tank

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‘In an explosive interview with Megyn Kelly at the 21st St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, systematically destroyed many of the narratives promulgated by the enemies of the Syrian state who seek to turn the country into the new Libya.

Although the panel discussion covered many issues and featured other speakers, one of the most crucial sections was when Kelly questioned Putin over the Syrian conflict. The opening exchange consisted of Kelly asking the Russian leader whether he believed Assad was an “evil guy?”, allowing Putin to articulate one of the central reasons why Russia supports the Syrian government. Putin emphasized that it is not Assad that Russia is protecting per se; instead, Russia is protecting “the Syrian statehood” from collapsing into an abyss of chaos similar to the one we have seen Libya descend into since 2011:’


Read more: Putin: We Protect Syria’s ‘Statehood’ to Prevent it Becoming Like Libya (http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/07/05/527466/Saudi-Arabia-Britain)
Title: Re: Syrian War Report – July 4, 2017: BMPT Terminator Combat Vehicles
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 06, 2017, 04:46:50 am
Syrian War Report – July 4, 2017: Army Reportedly Receives BMPT Terminator Combat Vehicles

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-4-2017-army-reportedly-receives-russian-made-bmpt-terminator-combat-vehicles/

Syrian government forces, led by Liwa al-Quds and Hezbollah units, have further advanced against ISIS northeast of the Arak gas field in the eastern part of Homs province. Army troops and their allies have captured a number of hills and reached the important Rammim Hill west of the Hail gas field.  By controlling the Rammim Hill, government forces will be able to establish fire control over the vicinity of the Hail gas field and thus soon to retake the field from ISIS.  Doing so will also contribute to a wider effort aimed at liberating the strategic town of al-Sukhnah.

According to reports, government forces received an unknown number of Russian-made BMPT Terminator combat vehicles.  The vehicles will allegedly be used during the upcoming advance on Deir Ezzor.  If confirmed, this will be the first usage of the Russian-made armoured vehicle in a combat environment.

The US-led coalition has airdropped about 100-150 members of US-backed groups of the so-called Free Syrian Army (FSA) from the US-held Al-Tanf area in southeastern Syria to the Al-Shaddadi area in northeastern Syria, according to pro-militant media activists and media outlets.

According to reports, the goal of this move is to set a foothold for a US-backed advance on the government-held city of Deir Ezzor, besieged by ISIS terrorists.  Some sources suggest that the US is going to establish a coalition garrison in the border area. Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra even declared the start of the offensive on Deir Ezzor.  However, without direct support from US-led coalition ground forces this seems as merely a PR move. Another obvious target for the US-led operation is the ISIS-held border town of al-Bukamal.

If reports are confirmed, this move will be considered as a common part of a wider US effort aimed at building a buffer zone between Syria and Iraq by seizing as much border area as possible, the goal being to prevent any cooperation between the Syrian and Iraqi militaries.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition, continued storming the ISIS-held part of Raqqah. Slow progress inside the city might be one of the reasons behind the US attempt to launch a separate operation in the border area with Iraq.

Syrian government forces, led by Liwa al-Quds and Hezbollah units, have further advanced against ISIS northeast of the Arak gas field in the eastern part of Homs province. Army troops and their allies have captured a number of hills and reached the important Rammim Hill west of the Hail gas field.  By controlling the Rammim Hill, government forces will be able to establish fire control over the vicinity of the Hail gas field and thus soon to retake the field from ISIS.  Doing so will also contribute to a wider effort aimed at liberating the strategic town of al-Sukhnah. According to reports, government forces received an unknown number of Russian-made BMPT Terminator combat vehicles.  The vehicles will allegedly be used during the upcoming advance on Deir Ezzor.  If confirmed, this will be the first usage of the Russian-made armoured vehicle in a combat environment. The US-led coalition has airdropped about 100-150 members of US-backed groups of the so-called Free Syrian Army (FSA) from the US-held Al-Tanf area in southeastern Syria to the Al-Shaddadi area in northeastern Syria, according to pro-militant media activists and media outlets. According to reports, the goal of this move is to set a foothold for a US-backed advance on the government-held city of Deir Ezzor, besieged by ISIS terrorists.  Some sources suggest that the US is going to establish a coalition garrison in the border area. Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra even declared the start of the offensive on Deir Ezzor.  However, without direct support from US-led coalition ground forces this seems as merely a PR move. Another obvious target for the US-led operation is the ISIS-held border town of al-Bukamal. If reports are confirmed, this move will be considered as a common part of a wider US effort aimed at building a buffer zone between Syria and Iraq by seizing as much border area as possible, the goal being to prevent any cooperation between the Syrian and Iraqi militaries. The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition, continued storming the ISIS-held part of Raqqah. Slow progress inside the city might be one of the reasons behind the US attempt to launch a separate operation in the border area with Iraq.

Title: Re: Syrian War Report – July 5, 2017: Russian Military Police To Deploy
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 06, 2017, 04:51:26 am
Syrian War Report – July 5, 2017: Russian Military Police To Deploy In New Buffer Zones?

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-5-2017-russian-military-police-to-deploy-in-new-buffer-zones/

The Russian Military Police may be deployed in buffer zones in Syria, Russia’s chief negotiator at the Astana talks and the president’s envoy for Syria Alexander Lavrentyev said on Tuesday when the fifth round of talks started in the Kazakh capital. According to him, the issue, including the status of de-escalation control forces, has not yet been finally agreed. The sides will begin setting up security zones within two-three weeks after signing relevant documents as well as establish a joint coordination center to monitor security in the zones. However, the Russian official pointed out that there are still difficulties in “establishing the lines of contact.”

Syrian government forces have liberated the Tulul Hayl area and advanced near Ramamin in the province of Homs. The Syrian army and its allies, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, are preparing for a major push toward the ISIS-held town of Sukhna at the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor road.

At the same time, Russian and Syrian warplanes expanded number of airstrikes against ISIS along the Deir Ezzor road and in the area of the provincial capital. According to pro-government sources, the airstrikes inflicted major damage to terrorists, including destruction of at least 5 vehicles, but no videos or photos were provided.

Reconciliation negotiations between the government and militants have started in Jayroud area in Rif Dimashq province. The goal of negotiations is to disarm local armed factions and to allow people that want to settle their status to do this. Those who want to leave the area will be able to do this towards Idlib. However, no agreement has been reached.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition, have opened a gap in the ISIS defense in Old Raqqah and captured the Palace of the Maidens and the Abdul Malik School. An intense fighting is ongoing in the area. If the SDF is able to make significant progress in Old Raqqah, it will increase chances for liberation of Raqqah in the near future. The old part of the city is a key ISIS defense point.

The Russian Military Police may be deployed in buffer zones in Syria, Russia’s chief negotiator at the Astana talks and the president’s envoy for Syria Alexander Lavrentyev said on Tuesday when the fifth round of talks started in the Kazakh capital. According to him, the issue, including the status of de-escalation control forces, has not yet been finally agreed. The sides will begin setting up security zones within two-three weeks after signing relevant documents as well as establish a joint coordination center to monitor security in the zones. However, the Russian official pointed out that there are still difficulties in “establishing the lines of contact.” Syrian government forces have liberated the Tulul Hayl area and advanced near Ramamin in the province of Homs. The Syrian army and its allies, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, are preparing for a major push toward the ISIS-held town of Sukhna at the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor road. At the same time, Russian and Syrian warplanes expanded number of airstrikes against ISIS along the Deir Ezzor road and in the area of the provincial capital. According to pro-government sources, the airstrikes inflicted major damage to terrorists, including destruction of at least 5 vehicles, but no videos or photos were provided. Reconciliation negotiations between the government and militants have started in Jayroud area in Rif Dimashq province. The goal of negotiations is to disarm local armed factions and to allow people that want to settle their status to do this. Those who want to leave the area will be able to do this towards Idlib. However, no agreement has been reached. The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition, have opened a gap in the ISIS defense in Old Raqqah and captured the Palace of the Maidens and the Abdul Malik School. An intense fighting is ongoing in the area. If the SDF is able to make significant progress in Old Raqqah, it will increase chances for liberation of Raqqah in the near future. The old part of the city is a key ISIS defense point.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - The Fraud of the White Helmets
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 06, 2017, 05:02:58 am
The Fraud of the White Helmets. An Impressive Piece of Propaganda

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 6 JULY 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418426/fraud-white-helmets-impressive-piece-propaganda

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‘I actually forced myself to watch the documentary The White Helmets, which is available on Netflix. It is 40 minutes long, is of high quality cinematographically speaking, and tells a very convincing tale that was promoted as “the story of real-life heroes and impossible hope.”

It is overall a very ., so much so that it has won numerous awards including the Oscar for Best Documentary Short this year and the White Helmets themselves were nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. More to the point, however, is the undeniable fact that the documentary has helped shape the public understanding of what is going on in Syria, delivering a Manichean tale that depicts the “rebels” as always good and Bashar al-Assad and his government as un-redeemably evil.’

Read more: The Fraud of the White Helmets. An Impressive Piece of Propaganda (https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-fraud-of-the-white-helmets/)




The Syria White Helmets Exposed as US UK Agents Embedded with Al Nusra and ISIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k6hSS6xBTw

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - US ready to consider Syria ‘no-fly zones’
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 06, 2017, 05:16:19 am
US ready to consider Syria ‘no-fly zones’ if Putin and Trump find common ground at G20 meeting

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 6 JULY 2017 GMT MIDDLE EAST NEWS,  WAR AND TERROR
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418392/us-ready-consider-syria-no-fly-zones-putin-trump-find-common-ground-g20-meeting

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‘The US State Department has outlined its vision for resolving the conflict in Syria, which is expected to be a key point to be discussed during the first meeting between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump at the G20 summit in Hamburg.

“The United States is prepared to explore the possibility of establishing with Russia joint mechanisms for ensuring stability, including no-fly zones, on the ground ceasefire observers, and coordinated delivery of humanitarian assistance,” Rex Tillerson said in a statement released by the State Department.

Ahead of the July 7 meeting between the Russian and American presidents, Tillerson insisted that Russia has a “special responsibility” to aid the peace process.’

Read more: US ready to consider Syria ‘no-fly zones’ if Putin and Trump find common ground at G20 meeting (https://www.rt.com/usa/395427-tillerson-russia-us-syria/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - ‘no-fly zones’ proposal
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 07, 2017, 02:47:28 am
Russia wants US to clarify Syria ‘no-fly zones’ proposal

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 7 JULY 2017 GMT MIDDLE EAST NEWS WAR AND TERROR
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418581/russia-wants-us-clarify-syria-no-fly-zones-proposal

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‘Russia says it has asked the US to provide more details about its proposal to work together with Moscow to set up “no-fly zones” in Syria.

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson had on Wednesday said Washington was “prepared to explore the possibility of establishing with Russia joint mechanisms for ensuring stability, including no-fly zones” in the Arab country.

A day later, his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov said, “We have asked (for information). We haven’t yet received a response to the question about which no-fly zones they have in mind, because no-one was ever talking about them.”

Moscow is also still waiting for the US to respond to its own proposals on Syria which were presented to Washington a few months ago, Lavrov added.’


Read more: Russia wants US to clarify Syria ‘no-fly zones’ proposal (http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/07/07/527674/Russia-US-Syria)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - July 6, 2017: Tu-95MS Bombers Purge ISIS
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 07, 2017, 05:01:04 am
Syrian War Report – July 6, 2017: Tu-95MS Bombers Purge ISIS

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-6-2017-tu-95ms-bombers-purge-isis/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has continued advancing against militants in the area of Ayn Tarma east of Damascus.  According to pro-government sources, the SAA has liberated 10 more buildings in the direction of the Ayn Tarma roundabout.

Syrian Air Force warplanes carried out 13 air strikes on the positions of Faylaq al-Rahman and Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) in Ayn Tarma and Jobar areas.  The SAA killed more than 15 HTS fighters and destroyed a vehicle. Faylaq al-Rahman was able to damage an SAA tank and to destroy a BMP vehicle.  The militants claimed that they repelled the SAA push in eastern Damascus.

On Wednesday, Russian Tu-95MS strategic bombers struck ISIS targets in Syria with X-101 cruise missiles. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the cruise missile strike destroyed three large arms and ammunition depots, and a terrorist command center near the city of Uqayribat in the province of Hama. The strike was made from a range of about 1,000 kilometers.  The Tu-95MS bombers took off from an airfield in Russia.

According to experts, an intense bombing campaign in the Uqayribat area preceedes a large anti-ISIS operation aimed at liberating the whole eastern Hama countryside from ISIS.

The US-led coalition announced that the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have captured 18% of Raqqah city so far.  The SDF allegedly advanced in Old Raqqah and took control of the road leading to Saif al-Dawla Mosque in the middle of the city.

According to opposition sources, US service members are participating in the battles alongside SDF members.  ISIS claimed that 12 SDF fighters were killed on Wednesday in Sukarat, Souk al-Hal, and Sour Baghdad in eastern and southern Raqqah.

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has continued advancing against militants in the area of Ayn Tarma east of Damascus.  According to pro-government sources, the SAA has liberated 10 more buildings in the direction of the Ayn Tarma roundabout. Syrian Air Force warplanes carried out 13 air strikes on the positions of Faylaq al-Rahman and Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) in Ayn Tarma and Jobar areas.  The SAA killed more than 15 HTS fighters and destroyed a vehicle. Faylaq al-Rahman was able to damage an SAA tank and to destroy a BMP vehicle.  The militants claimed that they repelled the SAA push in eastern Damascus. On Wednesday, Russian Tu-95MS strategic bombers struck ISIS targets in Syria with X-101 cruise missiles. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the cruise missile strike destroyed three large arms and ammunition depots, and a terrorist command center near the city of Uqayribat in the province of Hama. The strike was made from a range of about 1,000 kilometers.  The Tu-95MS bombers took off from an airfield in Russia. According to experts, an intense bombing campaign in the Uqayribat area preceedes a large anti-ISIS operation aimed at liberating the whole eastern Hama countryside from ISIS. The US-led coalition announced that the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have captured 18% of Raqqah city so far.  The SDF allegedly advanced in Old Raqqah and took control of the road leading to Saif al-Dawla Mosque in the middle of the city. According to opposition sources, US service members are participating in the battles alongside SDF members.  ISIS claimed that 12 SDF fighters were killed on Wednesday in Sukarat, Souk al-Hal, and Sour Baghdad in eastern and southern Raqqah.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? = US, Russia announce Syria CEASE-FIRE ? ? ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 07, 2017, 05:06:29 pm
US, Russia announce Syria cease-fire after Trump-Putin talks

By JOSH LEDERMAN, VIVIAN SALAMA and KEN THOMAS
Associated Press
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UNITED_STATES_RUSSIA_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-07-07-12-49-18

 HAMBURG, Germany (AP) -- The United States and Russia struck an agreement Friday on a cease-fire in southwest Syria, crowning President Donald Trump's first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. It is the first U.S.-Russian effort under Trump's presidency to stem Syria's six-year civil war.

The cease-fire goes into effect Sunday at noon Damascus time, according to U.S. officials and the Jordanian government, which is also involved in the deal.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who accompanied Trump in his meeting with Putin, said the understanding is designed to reduce violence in an area of Syria near Jordan's border that is critical to the U.S. ally's security.

It's a "very complicated part of the Syrian battlefield," Tillerson told reporters after the U.S. and Russian leaders met for more than 2 hours on the sidelines of a global summit in Hamburg, Germany.

Of the agreement, he said, "I think this is our first indication of the U.S. and Russia being able to work together in Syria."

For years, the former Cold War foes have been backing opposing sides in Syria's war. Moscow has staunchly backed Syrian President Bashar Assad, supporting Syrian forces militarily since 2015. Washington has backed rebels fighting Assad. Both the U.S. and Russia oppose Islamic State militants and say they're focused on rooting out the extremist group.

The potential pitfalls for the cease-fire are clear - not least the challenge of enforcing it.


READ MORE
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UNITED_STATES_RUSSIA_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-07-07-12-49-18
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? July 7, 2017: Iraqi Forces Purging Remaining ISIS Mosul
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 08, 2017, 04:38:34 am
Battle For Mosul – July 7, 2017: Iraqi Forces Purging Remaining ISIS Terrorists In Old Mosul

https://southfront.org/battle-for-mosul-july-7-2017-iraqi-forces-purging-remaining-isis-terrorists-in-old-mosul/

On Thursday, Iraqi security forces (ISF), backed up by the US-led coalition, successfully advanced al-Shahwan district in the Old Mosul area in western Mosul and de-facto reached the Tigris River. The goal was to separate ISIS units and to accelerate the collapse of the terrorist group’s defense in the area.

Meanwhile, the Iraqi Federal Police seized an ISIS training center known as ‘Abu Massoud camp’ at al-Bouseif village, south of Mosul. The camp was located 10 meters under the ground and extended along 1,500 meters.

ISIS temporarily cut off the Sharqat-Qayara road south of Mosul after an attack on the positions of Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) there. Five PMU fighters were allegedly killed. The terrorist group also captured a Humvee and a T-72 tank.

Late on Thursday and early on Friday, reports started appearing in social media and pro-government media outlets that ISF have fully liberated the city of Mosul from ISIS. However, no official announcement confirming these allegations has appeared so far. The security situation in western Mosul, including the recently liberated areas of Old Mosul, as well as in eastern Mosul are very complicated. Earlier this week, the Iraqi military said that it had info about at least 100 ISIS suicide bombers operating in Mosul.

Thus, even if the Iraqi military officially declares the victory over ISIS in the city, there will be a lot of work to neutralize remaining ISIS sleeper cells and raid units.

Nonetheless, the formal victory in Mosul will be a major blow to ISIS in Iraq and Syria and will be another important step in liberating the remaining areas controlled by terrorists.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Dude447 on Jul 08, 2017, 04:36:45 pm
O the irony I am still on the Trump Bus  I can still remember  the never Hilary chat round here , tired of all the arm chair experts saying what he is not doing right , how about focusing on a few things he is getting right
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 08, 2017, 05:27:35 pm
how about focusing on a few things he is getting right

Rim Shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHYiyv68q2o

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Dude447 on Jul 08, 2017, 05:32:09 pm
Trouble  your drum skills are fucked as well
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 08, 2017, 05:50:05 pm
What do you call a man who hangs out with musicians ?
A drummer.
 ???
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 08, 2017, 08:30:43 pm
Trouble  your drum skills are fucked as well

I don't know, maybe we all should hang out over at Prison Planet for old time sakes?

Naw.  :D
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Tillerson Insanity
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 09, 2017, 03:20:58 am
Tillerson: Russia Must Ensure Syria Does Not ‘Illegitimately’ Retake Its Territory

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 9 JULY 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418828/tillerson-russia-must-ensure-syria-not-illegitimately-retake-territory

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‘Widely reported as a US offer of cooperation on Syria given ahead of the Trump-Putin meeting, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s recent comments on Syria are actually rather scandalous and self-righteous:

In a statement, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the U.S. is open to establishing no-fly zones in Syria in coordination with Russia as well as jointly setting up a truce monitoring and humanitarian aid delivery mechanism.

Tillerson noted that the U.S. and Russia have a variety of unresolved differences but said Syria is an opportunity for the two countries to create stability in Syria.

He said that Russia, as an ally of Syrian President Bashar Assad and a participant in the conflict, “has a responsibility to ensure that the needs of the Syrian people are met and that no faction in Syria illegitimately re-takes or occupies areas liberated from ISIS’ or other terrorist groups’ control.” Tillerson added that Russia has “an obligation to prevent any further use of chemical weapons of any kind by the Assad regime.”‘


Read more: Tillerson: Russia Must Ensure Syria Does Not ‘Illegitimately’ Retake Its Territory (http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/tillerson-russia-must-ensure-syria-does-not-illegitimately-retake-its-territory/ri20299#.WV9uNiu91ss.facebook)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - National Geographic ‘Hell on Earth’ Syria Hoax
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 09, 2017, 03:26:30 am
The National Geographic ‘Hell on Earth’ Syria Hoax

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 9 JULY 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418831/national-geographic-hell-earth-syria-hoax

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‘On April 5, 2017, National Geographic released a preview of its film, Hell on Earth: The Fall Of Syria And The Rise of ISIS, by filmmaker Sebastian Junger and producing partner Nick Quested.

The film itself debuted on April 26, 2017, at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York and on the National Geographic channel on June 11. Junger and Quested persuaded NG to release the preview early, following the suspected chemical attacks in Syria on April 4.



There are, unfortunately, several problems with the footage in both the preview and the film, as well as with the claims made by the filmmakers and National Geographic. The most glaring of these is that the opening scene of the trailer is a total fraud.’


Read more: The National Geographic ‘Hell on Earth’ Syria Hoax (http://truepublica.org.uk/global/national-geographic-hell-earth-syria-hoax/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Tillerson Insanity
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 09, 2017, 11:26:21 am
Tillerson: Russia Must Ensure Syria Does Not ‘Illegitimately’ Retake Its Territory

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 9 JULY 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418828/tillerson-russia-must-ensure-syria-not-illegitimately-retake-territory

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‘Widely reported as a US offer of cooperation on Syria given ahead of the Trump-Putin meeting, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s recent comments on Syria are actually rather scandalous and self-righteous:

In a statement, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the U.S. is open to establishing no-fly zones in Syria in coordination with Russia as well as jointly setting up a truce monitoring and humanitarian aid delivery mechanism.

Tillerson noted that the U.S. and Russia have a variety of unresolved differences but said Syria is an opportunity for the two countries to create stability in Syria.

He said that Russia, as an ally of Syrian President Bashar Assad and a participant in the conflict, “has a responsibility to ensure that the needs of the Syrian people are met and that no faction in Syria illegitimately re-takes or occupies areas liberated from ISIS’ or other terrorist groups’ control.” Tillerson added that Russia has “an obligation to prevent any further use of chemical weapons of any kind by the Assad regime.”‘


Read more: Tillerson: Russia Must Ensure Syria Does Not ‘Illegitimately’ Retake Its Territory (http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/tillerson-russia-must-ensure-syria-does-not-illegitimately-retake-its-territory/ri20299#.WV9uNiu91ss.facebook)

Yes, the lie that Trump is a "peace maker" is already falling apart.  Surprise Surprise.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - We cannot trust Russia
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 10, 2017, 10:14:00 am
‘We cannot trust Russia & we won’t ever trust Russia’ – US envoy to UN

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 10 JULY 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418920/cannot-trust-russia-wont-ever-trust-russia-us-envoy-un

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‘“Everyone” knows Russia not only interfered in the US’ 2016 elections, but that it also continues to do so “across multiple continents,” US ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley said in an interview with CNN, adding that “the US won’t ever trust Russia.”

“Everybody knows that Russia meddled in our elections. Everybody knows that they’re not just meddling in the United States’ election. They’re doing this across multiple continents, and they’re doing this in a way that they’re trying to cause chaos within the countries,” Haley told CNN’s State of the Union show.

Haley’s comments came on the same day US President Donald Trump tweeted out that “it was time to move forward in working constructively with Russia” and a day after he said, “I had a tremendous meeting yesterday with [Russian] President Putin” on Saturday.

Asked about what happened during the much-anticipated meeting between US President Donald Trump and his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, at the G20 summit in Hamburg, Haley said that Putin “did exactly what we thought he would do, which is deny” any meddling in US elections.’


Read more: ‘We cannot trust Russia & we won’t ever trust Russia’ – US envoy to UN (https://www.rt.com/usa/395814-us-trust-russia-haley/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - City of Mosul Falls..
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 10, 2017, 10:15:51 am
Iraqi government recaptures Mosul where it suffered its heaviest defeat by Isis

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 10 JULY 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/418923/iraqi-government-recaptures-mosul-suffered-heaviest-defeat-isis

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‘Iraq is declaring victory over Isis in Mosul as Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, wearing black military uniform, arrived in the city to congratulate his soldiers at the end of an epic nine-month-long battle.

Elite Iraqi government forces raised the country’s flag on the banks of the Tigris River this morning, though Isis snipers are still shooting from the last buildings they hold in the Old City.

The magnitude of the victory won by the Iraqi government and its armed forces, three years after they suffered a catastrophic defeat in Mosul, is not in doubt.

A few thousand lightly equipped Isis fighters astonished the world by routing in four days an Iraqi garrison of at least 20,000 men equipped with tanks and helicopters. The recapture of Mosul now is revenge for the earlier humiliation.’


Read more: Iraqi government recaptures Mosul where it suffered its heaviest defeat by Isis (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mosul-latest-iraqi-government-forces-recapture-city-heaviest-defeat-a7832186.html)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Putin Slaps the US Secretary of State
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 10, 2017, 10:17:30 am
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Fort-Russ.com
Fort-Russ.com (http://fort-russ.com/)


'You Have no Right to Talk About Syria's Future!' Putin Slaps the US Secretary of State
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/07/you-have-no-right-to-talk-about-syrias.html


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'Russian President Vladimir Putin stressed that the future of Syria and its president lies in the hands of the Syrian people, not the US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

“The US Secretary of State is not a citizen of Syria and has no right to talk about its future and the fate of its president. This shall only be decided by the Syrian people”, Putin was heard saying during a press conference of the G20 summit in Hamburg.

He stressed that the US stance towards Syria has not drastically changed, although it has become more pragmatic, adding that the United States also played a certain role in decline of violence in the country.

He then spoke about a positive understanding on the issue of reaching a ceasefire agreement in the southwest of Syria and invited his Jordanian and Israeli partners to cooperate, pointing out that Syrian territorial integrity has to be preserved at all costs.'



Read More : 'You Have no Right to Talk About Syria's Future!' Putin Slaps the US Secretary of State (http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/07/you-have-no-right-to-talk-about-syrias.html)


Icke (http://davidicke.com/article/419036/no-right-talk-syrias-future-putin-slaps-us-secretary-state)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria – July 10, 2017: ISIS Territory In Shrinking
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 10, 2017, 02:15:57 pm
Syrian War Report – July 10, 2017: ISIS’ Territory In Syria, Iraq Is Shrinking

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-10-2017/

The Syrian Army and its allies have continued operation against ISIS in the countryside of Palmyra where government troops are advancing in the direction of the ISIS-held town of Sukhna. Government forces have captured a major part of the al-Haid gas fields and now are attempting to secure the area from ISIS attacks.

A group of self-propelled multiple rocket launcher systems, including MB-27 Uragan, have been spotted in the Arak gas field area. Summing up this and recent photo and video evidence showing artillery pieces and technical vehicles armed with various weapons arriving the area, it’s possible to suggest that the army and its allies will soon launch a major push in order to retake Sukhna from ISIS.

The Turkish military has allegedly deployed ATILGAN short-range air defense systems to the area of al-Bab in the province of Aleppo. The Erdogan government has been increasing its military presence in Syria since the start of the operation Euphrates Shield. According to pro-Kurdish sources, now, Turkey and its proxy forces are preparing for a military operation in order to retake Tall Rifat from YPG and YPJ. Kurdish militias are a core of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

The Kurdish political leadership represented by the Democratic Union Party (PYD) heavily relies on the US support. Recently, it has made a series of steps worsening its relations with Syria, Iran and Russia, thus, opening a window of opportunities for Ankara that seeks to clear the Syrian border area from militarized Kurdish organizations.
The Kurdish-Arab tensions are also growing in the area of Raqqah where the so-called Arab Elite Forces led by Ahmad Jarba have withdrawn from the battle of Old Raqqah as a result of disagreements with the SDF. In turn, pro-SDF sources argue that the SDF command has decided to do this because of the bad behavior of Arab fighters. The US-led coalition is trying to mediate the situation. In any case, this has already slowed won the advance against ISIS.

According to opposition sources, the United States agreed with Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra, to establish a military base in Al-Shaddadi city in the southern Hasakah countryside. According to sources among Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra members, the military base will become a foothold for the US-backed push towards the oil-rich province of Deir Ezzor.

On Sunday, a ceasefire was implemented in the provinces of Daraa and Quneitra as a result of another US-Russian deal over Syria. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the agreement includes “securing access of humanitarian aids, establishing contacts between the opposition in the area and a monitoring center being established in the Jordanian capital”. State Rex Tillerson said that “I think this is the first indication that the United States and Russia can work together in Syria.”

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has arrived Mosul city to announce its liberation. Al-Abadi toured Mosul and congratulated the Iraqi soldiers, officers, and civilians, after Iraqi forces had liberated the entire Old Mosul area from ISIS. Al-Abadi held a meeting with commanders at the Federal Police HQ in western Mosul, and stressed the need to ensure security and stability in the city, to remove mines and explosives left by ISIS, and to protect civilians. However, according to local sources sporadic firefights between ISIS members and security forces are still ongoing in Old Mosul. Following the declaration of the liberation of Mosul, Iraqi forces will likely focus their efforts on liberation of Tal Afar.

Meanwhile, the Iraqi Air Force has carried out airstrikes on ISIS targets in the Syrian area of al-Mayadin. The Iraqi Air Force conducts airstrikes against ISIS in the Syrian border area in accordance to the agreement with the Syrian government.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria – July 10, 2017: ISIS Territory In Shrinking
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 10, 2017, 04:25:30 pm
Syrian War Report – July 10, 2017: ISIS’ Territory In Syria, Iraq Is "Shrinking"



It's for this very reason (the Russian's believe) why the US wanted a 'cease fire', before US ISIS forces are completely wiped out by Russia and Syria they can regroup.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria – July 10, 2017: ISIS Territory In Shrinking
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 10, 2017, 05:20:47 pm
It's for this very reason (the Russian's believe) why the US wanted a 'cease fire', before US ISIS forces are completely wiped out by Russia and Syria they can regroup.

Saves the rest of us typing.
 :)

Its joke like when we read the MSM.
Next stop Ukraine

Today Puppet-Shillo Prez Ukraine Nazi's, announced they wanna be part of NATO

I will assume all our readers are up to speed on Ukraine.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 11, 2017, 03:52:28 pm
I am wondering if these guys were military contractors


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/07/11/two-american-foreign-fighters-killed-battling-isis-in-syria/?utm_term=.7e11885dee3c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/07/11/two-american-foreign-fighters-killed-battling-isis-in-syria/?utm_term=.7e11885dee3c)

Two Americans killed battling ISIS in Syria


Two Americans fighting alongside Kurdish forces in northern Syria were killed last week as the battle to retake the Islamic State’s de-facto capital there continues well into its second month.

Nicholas Warden, 29, and Robert Grodt, 28, died last week on the outskirts of Raqqa, according to U.S. officials and a statement released by the Kurdish People’s Protection Units, known as the YPG. Warden served with the U.S. Army in Afghanistan and spent another stint in the the French Foriegn Legion, a fellow YPG fighter said. Grodt did not appear to have any prior military service. Another westerner, a British man named Luke Rutter, was also killed in the fighting, the statement said.
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 11, 2017, 11:05:44 pm
I am wondering if these guys were military contractors


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/07/11/two-american-foreign-fighters-killed-battling-isis-in-syria/?utm_term=.7e11885dee3c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/07/11/two-american-foreign-fighters-killed-battling-isis-in-syria/?utm_term=.7e11885dee3c)

Two Americans killed battling ISIS in Syria


Two Americans fighting alongside Kurdish forces in northern Syria were killed last week as the battle to retake the Islamic State’s de-facto capital there continues well into its second month.

Nicholas Warden, 29, and Robert Grodt, 28, died last week on the outskirts of Raqqa, according to U.S. officials and a statement released by the Kurdish People’s Protection Units, known as the YPG. Warden served with the U.S. Army in Afghanistan and spent another stint in the the French Foriegn Legion, a fellow YPG fighter said. Grodt did not appear to have any prior military service. Another westerner, a British man named Luke Rutter, was also killed in the fighting, the statement said.

These were all Syrian 'FREEDOM FIGHTERS'.  Didn't you get the memo?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Chaotic Mosul evacuation caused more people to die – Lavrov
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 12, 2017, 05:29:07 am
Chaotic Mosul evacuation caused more people to die – Lavrov

BY GARETH ICKE ON 12 JULY 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/419121/chaotic-mosul-evacuation-caused-people-die-lavrov

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‘Iraq and the US-led coalition failed to create the conditions for an organized withdrawal of people from Mosul, which might have led to increased number of casualties during the operation against Islamic State, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said.

“In case of Mosul, no conditions were created to allow civilians leave in an organized way. It was all chaotic, spontaneous. Obviously, when it happens in such an unexpected manner, it adds inconvenience and, probably, causes an increased number of victims,” Lavrov told the journalists after an informal OSCE ministerial meeting in Mauerbach, Austria on Tuesday.

On Monday, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Abadi officially declared that Mosul, which has been Islamic State’s (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) de facto capital in Iraq for the last three years, has been fully liberated from the terrorists.’


Read more: Chaotic Mosul evacuation caused more people to die – Lavrov (https://www.rt.com/news/396064-lavrov-mosul-evacuation-civilians-killed/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? Al Baghdadi dead ?
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 12, 2017, 05:33:16 am
I know. Serbian jornalist Lazanski have good source in Russian Army. As he said "to be confirmed...." ???

Daesh terrorists confirmed the group leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead, Al Sumaria TV channel reports citing a source in the Iraqi province of Nineveh.

BY JAYMIE ICKE ON 12 JULY 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/419175/daesh-terrorists-confirmed-group-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-dead-al-sumaria-tv-channel-reports-citing-source-iraqi-province-nineveh

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‘According to the source, Daesh terrorists issued a brief statement in which they reported the death of their leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, as well as the name of the “new Caliph.”

On June 16, the Russian Defense Ministry said al-Baghdadi was likely eliminated as a result of a Russian Aerospace Forces strike on a militant command post in the southern suburb of the city of Raqqa in late May. It noted that it was in the process of confirming the information through various channels.

On June 23, US Operation Inherent Resolve Col. Ryan Dillon said that the US has no conclusive evidence to believe that Baghdadi was killed in Russian airstrikes. However, the US “certainly would welcome the death of al-Baghdadi, but we do not have any definitive proof to lead us believe that this is accurate,” he added.’


Read More: Daesh terrorists confirmed the group leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead, Al Sumaria TV channel reports citing a source in the Iraqi province of Nineveh. (https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201707111055429513-daesh-leader-baghdadi-confirmed-dead/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 12, 2017, 03:41:59 pm
... al-Baghdadi is dead again.  No, really this time we really, really do mean it.  Honest.  This time for sure.

OH! ... and we're just about ready to roll out the next new bad guy you must fear.  You're going to love him! 
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 12, 2017, 03:50:13 pm
last time I listed all the times he has been claimed to have been dead.

Talk about the phantom menace...

Its ludicrous.
 
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: 2Revolutions on Jul 12, 2017, 09:07:19 pm


http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/12/politics/us-troops-more-exposed-raqqa-mosul-isis/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/12/politics/us-troops-more-exposed-raqqa-mosul-isis/index.html)


US troops 'more exposed to enemy' in Raqqa than in Mosul

US military advisers helping Kurdish and Arab fighters combat ISIS in Raqqa, Syria are "more exposed to enemy contact" than they were during the battle for Mosul, the spokesman for the US-led coalition said Wednesday.

"They are much more exposed to enemy contact than those in Iraq," US Army Col. Ryan Dillon told reporters at the Pentagon, referring to US and coalition troops that are accompanying local allies in the fight for Raqqa, ISIS' de-facto capital.

Coalition artillery and aircraft have been supporting the Syrian Democratic Forces as they have fought to capture the Syrian city, a battle coalition officials have said will be hard-fought.

Dillon said the US and coalition troops that have entered Raqqa alongside their local allies "are assisting by calling in strikes against enemy forces within the city."

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - July 11, 2017: Government Forces Rapidly Advancing
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 13, 2017, 10:40:07 am
Syrian War Report – July 11, 2017: Government Forces Rapidly Advancing In Southeastern Desert

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-11-2017-government-forces-rapidly-advancing-in-southeastern-desert/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allies conducted a surprise operation against US-backed militants in the desert east of Damascus. Government forces liberated Dier Nasrani, Rajm Bakar, Jabal Makhoul, Bi’r Makhoul, Jabal Seis, Tal Sad Risha, Al-Qasr, Khirbat umm Atayiq, Banat Baeir, Surat Aliyah, Tulul al-Faddayn, Tal al-Asfar, and nearby points.

The aim of the operation was to clear the militant-held pocket northeast of Suweida and to oppress the units of US-backed militant groups operating in the area since they pose a threat to the countryside of the Syrian capital.  According to some sources, US-backed forces have already withdrawn from the area.  However, this still has to be confirmed.

US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) recaptured the village of Ukayrishah from ISIS in the southeastern Raqqah countryside.  The SDF is slowly moving along the Euphrates River capturing villages located near the road to Deir Ezzor. The goal of these efforts, being taken during the battle for Raqqah, is to set conditions for an expected operation against ISIS in the Deir Ezzor countryside.

If the SDF reaches and captures the town of Maadan, the US-backed force will have a useful position for an attempt to seize oil fields located in the northern countryside of the government-held part of Deir Ezzor City besieged by ISIS.  This could also be used for a push towards the ISIS-held town of al Maydan.  Capturing it would enable the SDF to cut off the Deir Ezzor-Baghdad highway and to secure a position for an advance on another ISIS-held town, al-Bukamal.

Meanwhile, SDF units continued their attempts at retaking the Old Raqqah area in the ISIS-held city of Raqqah. Following a heavy bombardment campaign by US-led airpower and artillery, the SDF captured some of Old Raqqah but faced fierce resistance from ISIS.  Intense fighting is on-going in the area.

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi has officially declared the liberation of the city of Mosul from ISIS terrorists. The declaration of the liberation of Mosul followed the victory of Iraqi security forces over ISIS in the Old Mosul area.  However, the security situation in the city remains complicated.  Iraqi forces are working to remove IEDs and mines set up by ISIS as well as searching for the terrorist group’s sleeper cells.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria – July 12, 2017: Divide Militant-Held Area Eastern Damascus
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 13, 2017, 10:43:53 am
Syrian War Report – July 12, 2017: Army Seeks To Divide Militant-Held Area In Eastern Damascus

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-12-2017-army-seeks-to-divide-militant-held-area-in-eastern-damascus/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the National Defense Forces (NDF) are attempting to separate Jobar and Zamalka areas in eastern Damascus countryside. They have advanced along the M5 highway and claimed capturing some buildings in the process. Clashes have also continued in Ayn Tarma. Faylaq Al-Rahman and Hayat Tahrir al-Sham are two militant groups opposing the SAA and the NDF in the area.

The SAA, the NDF and other pro-government factions have fully liberated the al-Hayl gas field area, including hills near the gas field, from ISIS terrorists in the countryside of Palmyra.

The SAA and its allies entered the al-Hayl gas field area earlier this month, captured the al-Hayl gas station, and engaged ISIS units in an intense fighting in the area. On Tuesday, government forces got a full control over the area and seized hills overlooking the gas field. However, ISIS launched a counter-attack in an attempt to the field. An intense fighting is now ongoing.

ISIS had set up a series of strongpoints in the mountain area along the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor highway. These strongpoints became an obstruction for the government forces attempting to reach the strategic town of Sukhna.

The video has appeared online showing a large convoy of pro-government tribal fighters allegedly moving to participate in the expected government operation against ISIS in Deir Ezzor. According to the report, some 4,000 tribal fighters will participate in the advance. However, this number looks overestimated.

A Russian military adviser, Nikolay Afanasov, has been killed as a result of mortar shelling from militants in Hama province, the Russian Ministry of Defense said on Tuesday. The captain was tasked with training Syrian ground forces. He was granted a state decoration posthumously. According to official statements, 34 Russian military servicemen have been killed since the start of the operation in Syria.

An intense fighting continued between the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and ISIS inside the city of Raqqah. SDF units, backed up by the US-led coalition airpower and artillery, are pressuring on ISIS defense lines in western and eastern Raqqah in an attempt to reach the city center and divide it into two parts via the al Firdaws street. ISIS uses snipers and suicide bombers countering the US-backed advance.

Meanwhile, the SDF has established of the first female Arab battalion within the US-backed group. The recently created battalion was named the Battalion of Martyr Amara for Arab Women. The declared aim of the move is to fight ISIS terrorists in eastern Syria and to protect women rights. The creation of the Battalion of Martyr Amara for Arab Women was officially announced by Rojda Seyar, an SDF field commander, on Monday.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - July 13 : Govt Attack US-backed Militants In South Desert
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 13, 2017, 10:47:20 am
Syrian War Report – July 13, 2017: Govt Forces Attack US-backed Militants In Southern Desert

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-13-2017-govt-forces-put-pressure-on-us-backed-militants-in-southern-desert/

The Syrian Army and its allies have been attempting to capture the Abu Khashbah area in the eastern Damascus desert.

On Wednesday, government troops advanced in the area south of Ar-Ruhba in order to close and encircle the area controlled by US-backed militants south of the al-Seen military airbase.

If government troops liberate the Abu Khashbah area and clear the militant pocket west of it, they will significantly shorten the frontline in southeastern Syria and make another important step in the isolation of US-held garrisons at the border with Iraq.

There is no evidence that ISIS Top Leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is still alive, according to US Army Lt.  Gen.  Stephen Townsend who currently commands the Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve.  However, Townsend said that he cannot confirm that the top ISIS member is dead.  Since June, reports have been circulating that al-Baghadi was killed in a Russian air strike on an ISIS command post in the province of Raqqah in May.  Earlier this week, the Al Sumaria TV channel reported, citing its own source in Iraq, that ISIS had released an internal statement confirming the death of al-Baghdadi.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have repelled ISIS counter-attacks in the eastern and western parts of the city of Raqqah.

The SDF found 3 tunnels and 4 VBIEDs abandoned by ISIS members and destroyed at least 3 vehicles.

Intense fighting continued in Old Raqqah as the SDF attempted to develop momentum in the area.  However, US-backed fighters have not been able to break ISIS defense lines.

The SDF faces especially fierce resistance by ISIS in the Diriyah area.

US-led coalition airpower destroyed a part of the Abbasi Historic Wall in the Old Raqqa area, according to local sources.  The site was a part of the ISIS defense.

The US-backed Jaysh Maghawir Al-Thawra militant group operating in southeastern Syria has refused to work alongside another US-backed faction – the SDF, according to pro-militant sources.  Jaysh Maghawir Al-Thawra has allegedly denied that it intends to redeploy to the Shadadi area in the northern Syrian province of Hasaka and to participate alongside the SDF in the expected US-backed advance on Deir Ezzor.

Earlier this month, reports appeared that the US is going to build a military garrison at Shadadi with the aim to use it as a foothold for the anti-ISIS operation in the province of Deir Ezzor.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Kurds in Iraq and Syria Used as a Trojan Horse
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 13, 2017, 10:56:17 am
The New Middle East: Kurds in Iraq and Syria Used as a Trojan Horse. Washington’s Intent is to 'Divide the Middle East'

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 13 JULY 2017
https://www.davidicke.com/article/419225/new-middle-east-kurds-iraq-syria-used-trojan-horse-washingtons-intent-divide-middle-east

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‘The leader of Kurdistan Iraq, President Masoud Barzani, has called for a (second) general referendum on Independence, setting the date as 25th of September this year. He is determined to materialise the dream of establishing a Kurdish state in the Middle East.

This coincides with support from the US administration for Kurdish Syrians in al-Hasaka, Raqqah and Deir al-Zour northern provinces. The aim is to see another Kurdish Federation that can follow the path or even precede their Iraqi “brothers”.

Both the steps in Iraq and Syria relating to the Kurds are linked, regardless of borders. Nevertheless, the regional countries directly concerned – i.e. Ankara, Tehran, Baghdad and Damascus – believe that it is the US’s intention to reshape the region and form a “new Middle East,” as promoted during President George Bush’s eraby ex-US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.’


Read more: The New Middle East: Kurds in Iraq and Syria Used as a Trojan Horse. Washington’s Intent is to ‘Divide the Middle East’ (https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2017/07/09/the-kurds-in-iraq-and-syria-are-being-used-by-the-us-as-a-trojan-horse-for-the-purpose-of-dividing-the-middle-east/)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Syrian War Report – July 14, 2017: Race To Deir Ezzor
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 14, 2017, 01:30:57 pm
Syrian War Report – July 14, 2017: Race To Deir Ezzor

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-14-2017-race-to-deir-ezzor/

On Thursday, the Syrian Arab Army Tiger Forces and tribal forces, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, have launched a military operation against in the southwestern part of Raqqah province. Initially, pro-government troops advanced south of Resafa and liberated Bir al Zenati, Bir Itaw and Bir Hiwaran villages. On Friday, they captured Ridgem-Abe el-Kalat Hills and deployed in a striking distance from the Dubaysan oil field and the Bir al-Zamlah crossroad.

According to pro-government sources, the ongoing anti-ISIS operation involves about 6,500 fighters from Raqqah tribes loyal to the Syrian government. However, this number cannot be confirmed independently.

When the Tiger Forces and their allies secure the Bir al-Zamlah crossroad, they will have 3 options:

1. To develop momentum southwest of Resafa, capturing oil fields in the area, steadily recapturing the ISIS-held area south of the Ithriyah-Resafa road. The goal of this advance is to secure the western flank of the military grouping that will push to the ISIS-held town of Sukhna from the Resafa direction.

2. To launch a rapid push towards the ISIS-held town of Taybah north of Sukhna. The goal of this move is to increase pressure on ISIS units in the eastern Palmyra countryside and to attempt to isolate Sukhna from the northern and southwestern direction.

3. To push towards Deir Ezzor. This version was widely promoted by some pro-government media. However, if government forces attempt to reach the ISIS-besieged city, their advance may end as the attempt to reach Tabqah from the Ithriyah direction in 2016. In other words, government forces will retreat after a series of flank attacks from ISIS terrorists.

In any case, the government advance in southern Raqqah will also lead to intensification of clashes between the army and terrorists east of Salamiyah. If government forces capture the whole Resafa-Palmyra road, ISIS units remaining west of the road will be cut off from supplies and reinforcements from Deir Ezzor province and the Iraqi border area.
Meanwhile, government forces made notable gains in the southern desert, recapturing Abu Khashbah, al Ghudaht, at Tayyar and Ard Umm ar Rumum and deploying closer to the full encirclement of the area formally controlled by US-backed militants. Clearing this pocket, the Syrian command is seeking to shorten the frontline in southern Syria in order to free additional forces for operations against ISIS.

Next 7-10 days will be very important for the army and show if the Iranian-Syrian-Russian alliance is able to achieve their key goals, including the lifting siege from Deir Ezzor, on the Syrian battleground before US-backed forces capture the city of Raqqah.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 16, 2017, 02:52:26 am
The (In)significance of Baghdadi Being "Dead"
Hopeful onlookers should recall how Bin Laden's death was followed by the expansion of terrorism, not its defeat.
https://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/the-insignificance-of-baghdadi-being.html
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - BMPT-72 “Terminator” tank support combat vehicle
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 16, 2017, 03:34:20 am
RUSSIAN TERMINATORS ARRIVE IN SYRIA

https://southfront.org/russian-terminators-arrive-in-syria/

Early July 2017 saw the release of photos showing a single BMPT-72 “Terminator” tank support combat vehicle in service with the Liva al-Quds Palestinian brigade serving with Syrian government forces. So far there have been no indications the vehicle has seen combat use, and it also appears that the vehicle was sent to Syria mainly for combat evaluation rather than in response to any urgent tactical requirement.

The BMPT concept represents an answer to the need to provide a high volume of suppressive fire against enemy anti-tank guided weapons and static weapon emplacements such as machine-gun nests. While modern infantry fighting vehicles are usually armed with automatic cannon which can fill that function, their inferior level of protection means they are hard-pressed to truly accompany tanks and are instead forced to provide overwatch fire with anti-tank guided missiles which limits their ability to use their cannon. The use of anti-aircraft weapons, either purpose-designed vehicles or gun trucks with towed anti-aircraft guns mounted on their platforms, suffers from a similar limitation. The only way to get around these problems, which Russian forces discovered when fighting in Afghanistan and Chechnya, is to develop a heavily armored vehicle that replaces a tank’s main gun with automatic cannon. This vehicle was Obyekt 199 “Ramka”, which over the years matured into the BMPT-72.

BMPT-72 is, as the name implies, based on the successful and popular T-72 main battle tank chassis. This choice facilitates integration into T-72 tank formations from the perspective of mobility, maintenance, and training. Its armament consists of two 2A42 30mm automatic cannon with a total of 850 rounds in the turret, and two AG-30 30mm automatic grenade launchers mounted over the tracks and controlled by the two “bow gunners.” To deal with long-range threats, the vehicle carries four ready-to-fire 9M120 Ataka laser-guided supersonic anti-tank missiles with a range of up to 10km in the case of the most recent models and carrying either HEAT or thermobaric warheads, depending on mission requirements.

As of early 2017, the BMPT-72 is officially in service only with the armed forces of Kazakhtan, which took the receipt of 10 such vehicles between 2011 and 2013. The vehicle spotted in Syria deviates slightly from the Kazakhstani vehicles in that it carries only a low-light image intensification sight rather than a thermal imager, which makes the vehicle less expensive and is not a great handicap in Syrian conditions where it is not expected to fight duels with advanced MBTs equipped with thermal imagers. Its protection is also different in that it carries Relikt second-generation reactive armor and soft armor packages protecting the sides so far seen only on up-armored T-72B3 tanks in Russian and Belarusian service.

BMPT-72’s appearance in Syria coincided with reports that the Russian Ground Forces are about to procure a number of these vehicles themselves, most likely for use by brigades and divisions operating T-72 and T-90 MBTs. BMPT-72 was not part of earlier procurement plans because it was expected that units equipped with the new T-14 MBT of the Armata family will also include the T-15 heavy infantry fighting which was designed in part to fill the same niche as the BMPT. The T-15 prototypes shown at the 2015 Victory Parade carried an unmanned turret with a single 30mm cannon and 4 Kornet ATGMs, and automatic cannon with caliber of up to 57mm are known to be in development and testing for use on the T-15 and other IFVs.

However, the expansion of the size of the Ground Forces meant that T-72 and T-90 MBTs would remain in service for longer than expected, which in turn revived Russian interest in procuring the BMPT-72.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - ISIS Leader Al-Baghdadi Still Alive
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 17, 2017, 04:49:35 am
‘99% Sure’ ISIS Leader Al-Baghdadi Still Alive – Iraqi Kurdistan Top Security Official

https://southfront.org/99-sure-isis-leader-al-baghdadi-still-alive-iraqi-kurdistan-top-security-official/
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - ISIS Leader Al-Baghdadi Still Alive
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 17, 2017, 04:00:29 pm
‘99% Sure’ ISIS Leader Al-Baghdadi Still Alive

Who'da Thunk It.  ::)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - ISIS Leader Al-Baghdadi Still Alive
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 17, 2017, 04:39:40 pm
Who'da Thunk It.  ::)

I laughed.

Every cat knows, its 9 lives so 'Al Baddie' rides again !



Secret Origins of the IS Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi a.k.a. "The Ghost" (2016 mini-documentary)



Title: Re: Trump on Syria - July 17, 2017: Israel Opposes Ceasefire By US + Russia
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 18, 2017, 03:16:56 am
Syrian War Report – July 17, 2017: Israel Opposes To Ceasefire Brokered By US And Russia

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-17-2017-israel-opposes-ceasefire-brokered-us-russia/

The Syrian Army Tiger Forces and Tribal forces have liberated Bir al-Zamlah, Bir Rumaylan, Eastern Zamlah, the Zamlah pumping station and the gas fields of Zalmah and Khala, and Fahed and Dubaysan oil fields from ISIS terrorists in the southern part of Raqqah province.

Meanwhile, 12 Syrian soldiers have been allegedly killed in Hamima village in the eastern Homs countryside as a result of an ISIS attack started with VBIED. ISIS also claimed that it destroyed two SAA tanks with ATGMs and captured a T-62 tank, a bulldozer, 23mm and 12.7mm guns and two Konkurs missiles. A fighting is ongoing in the area.

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) claimed on Sunday that its special operation units have managed to detonate a VBIED inside the Al-Mina al-Bida Naval base operated by the Syrian Navy in the northern part of Lattakia province. According to HTS, the attack killed and wounded of a number of Syrian service members. Some pro-government media argued that the photos are fake. However, local sources said that the explosion took place but without significant damage to equipment or personnel.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are still facing significant problems with breaking the ISIS defense inside the city of Raqqah. Almost no gains were made during last few days. According to Kurdish sources, 200 new US servicemen have joined the Raqqah advance in order to help the SDF to overcome these difficulties. A notable number of US Special Operations Forces units had been already involved in the operation, acting as forward air controllers and snipers and overseeing SDF units.

At the same time, the US-led coalition is attempting to solve the growing tensions between the SDF and local Arabs as well as between Kurdish and Arab factions of the US-backed force. They key problem is that nobody on the ground believes in the mainstream media mantra about so-called Arab allies of the coalition that allegedly are the core of the US-backed force. The SDF is almost fully controlled by Kurdish militias that are going to establish a full political and security control over the city and to include it into their self-proclaimed Kurdish-dominated federation after the defeat of ISIS.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday said that he opposes the ceasefire deal in southern Syria brokered by the United States and Russia. The reason is that the agreement does not serve so-called Israeli interests. According to Netanyahu, the agreement perpetuates Iranian plans to set up a long-term presence on Israel’s northern border.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Sabotaging Putin-Trump Ceasefire Agreement in Syria
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 18, 2017, 03:36:31 am
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Strategic-Culture.org
http://strategic-culture.org/ (http://strategic-culture.org/)


The US Deep State: Sabotaging Putin-Trump Ceasefire Agreement in Syria
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/07/16/us-deep-state-sabotaging-putin-trump-ceasefire-agreement-in-syria.html


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'In their first meeting, within less than two hours, Putin and Trump came to an agreement on potentially the most volatile situation in the region, saving hundreds of civilian lives in the process. The agreement on Syria now has to run the gauntlet of the deep state and all the other interests arrayed against Trump. Just four days following a similar agreement reached in 2016 between Obama and Putin, everything was upended by the US Air Force bombing and killing nearly a hundred soldiers of the Syrian Arab Army in Deir ez-Zor, shredding the ceasefire agreement that had just been reached.

Trump is dealing with the same occult forces that sabotaged Obama’s ceasefire agreement. It is impossible to know how much strategic support the US deep state has for the ceasefire decision. Ever since the SAA reached the Iraqi border north of al-Tanf, the space available for the US and her allies to maneuver has been dramatically diminished. With al-Tanf isolated, Washington’s ceasefire does not change or shift the already heavily altered balance of power in that area of Syria. For all these reasons, the ceasefire does not appear to be a concession by either party but merely a commonsense move to lessen the possibility of a direct confrontation between super-powers.'



Read More : The US Deep State: Sabotaging Putin-Trump Ceasefire Agreement in Syria (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/07/16/us-deep-state-sabotaging-putin-trump-ceasefire-agreement-in-syria.html)


Icke (http://davidicke.com/article/419880/us-deep-state-sabotaging-putin-trump-ceasefire-agreement-syria)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - July 18, 2017: Army Advancing On ISIS-held Town Of Sukhna
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 19, 2017, 04:05:13 am
Syrian War Report – July 18, 2017: Army Advancing On ISIS-held Town Of Sukhna

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-18-2017-army-advancing-on-isis-held-town-of-sukhna/

On Monday, the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) repelled an attack of pro-Turkish militants in the direction of Ayn Daqnah in the northern part of Aleppo province.  According to pro-Kurdish sources, the attack was supported by Turkish artillery units.  The artillery shelling also targeted YPG positions in Herbel, Sheikh Issa, and Tel Rifat.  The YPG repelled the first wave of the attack and allegedly killed 20 pro-Turkish militants and captured a few vehicles.

On Tuesday, sporadic clashes continued in the area.  According to experts, pro-Turkish militants will not be able to break the YPG defense without direct assistance from the Turkish army.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), backed up by the US-led coalition airpower, recaptured the whole Yarmouk district from ISIS and entered the Nezle Shihade district in the city of Raqqah.  At the same time, US military sources denied reports that the SDF had allegedly halted its operations against ISIS because of tensions among Arab and Kurdish units of the group.

The Syrian Army Tiger Forces and Tribal forces captured the Deilla oil field south of the government-held town of Resafa in the province of Raqqah, according to pro-government sources.  The Tiger Forces and their allies are steadily clearing from ISIS key areas south of the Resafa-Ithriyah road.

Numerous pro-government sources are speculating about the expected government push from the Resafa area towards the ISIS besieged city of Deir Ezzor.  However, right now, this option looks unlikely.

In turn, government forces are developing momentum in the direction of Sukhna northeast of Palmyra.  According to local sources, the army and its allies have captured new points en route to the ISIS-held town.

Reports about alleged government forces progressing towards the ISIS-held T2 pumping station near the border with Iraq are fake.  Clashes are still ongoing in the area of Hamimah.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria - July 19, 2017: Hayat Tahrir al-Sham Clashes Idlib Province
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 20, 2017, 04:08:40 am
Syrian War Report – July 19, 2017: Hayat Tahrir al-Sham Clashes With Ahrar al-Sham In Idlib Province

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-19-2017-hayat-tahrir-al-sham-clashes-with-ahrar-al-sham-in-idlib-province/

Syrian government forces have repelled a series of ISIS attacks in the countryside of Palmyra and continued their advance in the direction of Sukhna. An intense fighting is now ongoing in the mountain area overlooking the ISIS-held town. If it is taken by the army, the fate of Sukhna will be determined. ISIS is fiercely defending the town because its last ISIS major defense site on the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor road.

On Tuesday, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) attacked Aharar al-Sham in the province of Idlib. HTS stormed Ahrar al-Sham positions near the village of Hizareen and reportedly seized the village after series of firefights. At least two Ahrar al-Sham members, including a field commander, Yousef Al Fadl, were reportedly killed. Clashes also erupted in Maarat Numan and Jabal Zawiya. On Wednesday, firefights continued in the aforementioned areas as the both sides were deploying reinforcements in order to take an upper hand in the standoff.

The escalation became a result of a series of tensions between the two groups over the influence in the militant-held province. HTS and Ahrar al-Sham compete for the political and military leadership in the province as well as for the control of cash and weapon flows through the Turkish-Syrian border.

HTS is excluded from any kind of negotiations to solve the Syrian conflict because the group has ties with al-Qaeda. Thus, the group seeks to establish a full control over Idlib in order to sabotage any possible agreements between the militants and the Syrian government.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), heavily supported by the US-led coalition, are facing in Raqqah a problem similar to the problems faced by Iraqi security forces in Mosul and by the Syrian army in Aleppo. Militants are actively using urban areas, human shields and suicide bomber in order to counter the attacks. The old city of Raqqah remains a key ISIS defense site in the city.

Meanwhile, the US is increasing its military presence in the SDF-held area of eastern Syria as well as expanding its involvement in the battle for Raqqah. The SDF is an important part of the American diplomatic strategy. Washington is going to use the SDF-held area as a bargaining chip in a diplomatic standoff over the fate of post-ISIS Syria with Damascus, Tehran, Moscow and Ankara.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - July 20, 2017: Govt Forces Regain More Oil Wells
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 21, 2017, 02:47:45 am
Syrian War Report – July 20, 2017: Govt Forces Regain More Oil Wells In Raqqah Countryside

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-20-2017-govt-forces-regain-more-oil-wells-in-raqqah-countryside/

The Syrian Army Tiger Forces and Tribal Forces have captured Qurat Rumailan, the Rumailan Dam, and 15 oil and gas wells 10km east of Dibisan in the southern Raqqah countryside.  Government troops have also captured the Dibisan 1 and Dibisan 2 pumping stations.

ISIS allegedly lost 7 VBIEDs, a battle tank, and four vehicles during the clashes.  At the same time the terrorist group headquarters in the vicinity of Al-Zemla was bombed by the Syrian Air Force.

According to pro-ISIS sources, 8 Syrian soldiers were killed near the village of Abu Allaj at the Raqqah-Ithriyah road.  General Mundhir Mayhoub and Brigadier General Ayman Habib of the Syrian Army 5th Assault Corps were allegedly killed in the same area.  However, this still has to be confirmed.

Reports are circulating that the Tiger Forces and Tribal forces have almost reached the southern entrance to Raqqah after capturing the Ittihad University near Qusrat Afnan.  However, no videos or photos have appeared which might confirm these claims by pro-government sources.

Recently, the Syrian military command increased military censorship and operations security, preventing soldiers from releasing and spreading information about army movements, actions, and plans.  A lack of information from the ground is related to this issue.

Government forces advanced east and northeast of the Al-Heel field and deployed within about 10 km from the ISIS-held town of Sukhna at the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor road.

Earlier this week, the army and its allies captured a number of hills in the area steadily setting up the ground for the storm of Sukhna.

ISIS claimed that 19 Syrian soldiers were killed after their fighters attacked SAA positions east of the Al-Heel field.  The terrorist group allegedly destroyed two army tanks with an ATGM and a rocket-propelled shell during the clashes.

ISIS attacked army positions in Wadi al-Wa’ar near the Syrian-Iraqi border and allegedly killed 25 Syrian soldiers and captured 3 others.  ISIS also destroyed several SAA vehicles and seized weapons and ammunition.

ISIS expanded its operations against the army and its allies in the Palmyra countryside and near the border with Iraq in order to prevent government forces from advancing on Deir Ezzor.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) received a new batch of American weapons and equipment, including M-ATV US armored vehicles and D7R armored bulldozers.  Tankers were spotted in the military convoy loaded with fuel for US helicopters which are deployed at several bases inside Syria.

Meanwhile, the SDF, backed up by the US-led coalition, is developing momentum against ISIS in the southern part of the city of Raqqah.  The US-backed force was not able to seize the old city area and is now attempting to isolate it from the southern direction.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - July 21, 2017: Fierce Clashes Between Army And ISIS
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 22, 2017, 02:29:09 am
Syrian War Report – July 21, 2017: Fierce Clashes Between Army And ISIS

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-20-2017-govt-forces-regain-more-oil-wells-in-raqqah-countryside/

The Syrian Army Tiger Forces and Tribal Forces have captured Qurat Rumailan, the Rumailan Dam, and 15 oil and gas wells 10km east of Dibisan in the southern Raqqah countryside.  Government troops have also captured the Dibisan 1 and Dibisan 2 pumping stations.

ISIS allegedly lost 7 VBIEDs, a battle tank, and four vehicles during the clashes.  At the same time the terrorist group headquarters in the vicinity of Al-Zemla was bombed by the Syrian Air Force.

According to pro-ISIS sources, 8 Syrian soldiers were killed near the village of Abu Allaj at the Raqqah-Ithriyah road.  General Mundhir Mayhoub and Brigadier General Ayman Habib of the Syrian Army 5th Assault Corps were allegedly killed in the same area.  However, this still has to be confirmed.

Reports are circulating that the Tiger Forces and Tribal forces have almost reached the southern entrance to Raqqah after capturing the Ittihad University near Qusrat Afnan.  However, no videos or photos have appeared which might confirm these claims by pro-government sources.

Recently, the Syrian military command increased military censorship and operations security, preventing soldiers from releasing and spreading information about army movements, actions, and plans.  A lack of information from the ground is related to this issue.

Government forces advanced east and northeast of the Al-Heel field and deployed within about 10 km from the ISIS-held town of Sukhna at the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor road.

Earlier this week, the army and its allies captured a number of hills in the area steadily setting up the ground for the storm of Sukhna.

ISIS claimed that 19 Syrian soldiers were killed after their fighters attacked SAA positions east of the Al-Heel field.  The terrorist group allegedly destroyed two army tanks with an ATGM and a rocket-propelled shell during the clashes.

ISIS attacked army positions in Wadi al-Wa’ar near the Syrian-Iraqi border and allegedly killed 25 Syrian soldiers and captured 3 others.  ISIS also destroyed several SAA vehicles and seized weapons and ammunition.

ISIS expanded its operations against the army and its allies in the Palmyra countryside and near the border with Iraq in order to prevent government forces from advancing on Deir Ezzor.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) received a new batch of American weapons and equipment, including M-ATV US armored vehicles and D7R armored bulldozers.  Tankers were spotted in the military convoy loaded with fuel for US helicopters which are deployed at several bases inside Syria.

Meanwhile, the SDF, backed up by the US-led coalition, is developing momentum against ISIS in the southern part of the city of Raqqah.  The US-backed force was not able to seize the old city area and is now attempting to isolate it from the southern direction.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Russians asking, ‘Why are you still in Syria?’
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 23, 2017, 03:16:44 am
'We’re bad day away from Russians asking, ‘Why are you still in Syria?’ – top US commander

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 23 JULY 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/420540/bad-day-away-russians-asking-still-syria-top-us-commander

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‘A US special operations commander has admitted that an extended US stay in Syria runs contrary to international law and that Russia would be entirely justified in questioning its presence there.

At the Aspen Security Forum on Friday, Special Operations Command chief Army General, Raymond Thomas was asked whether American forces will remain in Syria, after Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) is defeated, possibly, to support the Kurdish forces in the north of the country.

Thomas acknowledged that American forces are fighting in a sovereign Syria, where they will likely “have no ability to stay” if that presence is questioned “in terms of international law,” Thomas said, replying to the Washington Post journalist’s question.

“Here’s the conundrum,” Thomas continued. “We are operating in the sovereign country of Syria. The Russians, their stalwarts, their back-stoppers, have already uninvited the Turks from Syria. We’re a bad day away from the Russians saying, ‘Why are you still in Syria, US?’’





Read more: ‘We’re bad day away from Russians asking, ‘Why are you still in Syria?’ – top US commander (https://www.rt.com/news/397219-us-commander-syria-troops-presence/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - refusing to hit al-Nusra terrorists
Post by: David Icke Bot on Jul 23, 2017, 03:20:58 am
US-led coalition refusing to hit al-Nusra terrorists in Syria: Russia

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 23 JULY 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/420549/us-led-coalition-refusing-hit-al-nusra-terrorists-syria-russia

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‘Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says the US-led coalition operating in Syria and Iraq has been refusing to hit the al-Nusra Front terrorist group.

“From the very beginning, the United States coalition, while fighting Daesh more or less actively (sometimes more, sometimes less), has been sparing Jabhat al-Nusra (Nusra Front). Obviously, all facts indicate in this direction,” Lavrov said in an interview with the NBC News broadcaster on Friday.

Jabhat al-Nusra, long acting as an affiliate of the al-Qaeda terrorist group, has recently renamed itself and claimed to have broken ranks with it.

In his interview, Lavrov expressed hope that the creation of de-escalation zones in Syria would contribute to an effective fight against al-Nusra.’


Read more: US-led coalition refusing to hit al-Nusra terrorists in Syria: Russia (http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/07/22/529282/Russia-Lavrov-Syria-Nusra-terrorists-US-refusal)
Title: Re: Trump on Syria – July 24, 2017: Syrian Army Made Large Gains In Raqqah Prov.
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 24, 2017, 04:50:03 pm
Syrian War Report – July 24, 2017: Syrian Army Made Large Gains In Raqqah Province

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-24-2017-syrian-army-made-large-gains-in-raqqah-province/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces and tribal forces, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, have liberated Al-Dakhilah, Bir Al-Sabkhawi, and Al-Sabkhawi from ISIS terrorists in the southern countryside of Raqqah and, according to pro-government sources, reached the Euphrates River and cut off the Al-Bukamal-Aleppo highway.

Thus, the army and its allies repeated the al-Bab-style operation when they built a buffer zone in order to stop a possible Turkish advance into central Syria. Control over the Al-Bukamal-Aleppo highway prevents a possible US-led operation in the direction of Deir Ezzor from the area of Raqqah.

The SAA, Hezbollah and the Lebanese Army, backed up by the Syrian Air Force, have launched a large coordinated operation against Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) and ISIS members in the area of Jaroud Arsal at the Syrian-Lebanese border. The SAA and Hezbollah have liberated Jorud Flitah and the nearby points in the Syrian territory. At the same time, Hezbollah supported by the Lebanese Army has liberated over 70% of the Lebanese part of Jaroud Arsal. The militant defense in the area is rapidly collapsing.

On Sunday, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) got a full control over the city of Idlib after capturing the remaining HQs and checkpoints of Ahrar al-Sham in the area. The HTS faced little resistance and Ahrar al-Sham members withdrew from the city after a series of firefights. Meanwhile, a VBIED attack killed 13 HTS members and injured dozens at the Al-Zira’a roundabout in Idlib. It’s not yet known whether ISIS or Ahrar al-Sham was behind the attack. ISIS may seek to fuel tensions among Idlib militants in order to expand own influence in the province.

Since the start of the ongoing intra-militant clashes, HTS has the entire Syrian-Turkish border line in the Idlib province and the city of Idlib. At least 19 armed groups have defected from Ahrar al-Sham and 15 of them have joined HTS. The al-Qaeda linked group has always been a de-facto leader of the so-called Idlib opposition. However, now it’s closer than ever to a full military and political dominance in the province.

On Sunday, another truce was implemented in the Eastern Ghouta region near Damascus. The truce had been negotiated between the government and local militants in the Egyptian capital of Cairo and was backed up by Russia. Clashes continued only in areas of Ayn Tarma and Jobar mostly controlled by HTS and allied units.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria - July 25, 2017: Army Liberated 55 Towns, Killed 2000 ISIS
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 25, 2017, 11:18:05 am
Syrian War Report – July 25, 2017: Army Liberated 55 Towns, Killed 2000 Terrorists Since June

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-25-2017-army-liberated-55-towns-killed-2000-terrorists-since-june/

Syrian government forces have liberated at least 55 towns from ISIS and killed some 2,000 terrorists in the province of Aleppo since June 1st and now the Syrian military and its allies continue advancing against ISIS along the Euphrates River, Chief of the Russian General Staff’s Main Operational Directorate Col.  Gen.  Sergei Rudskoy announced on Monday.

Rudskoy added that the Syrian army and its allies have freed 150km of the border with Iraq including the city of El-Bud and the T-2 gas distribution system from ISIS and now they are developing the offensive in the direction of the city of al-Bukamal.  Government forces are allegedly deployed within 26km of this strategic ISIS-held city.

He added that an operation aimed at blocking and destroying a large group of ISIS terrorists at Uqayribat is now ongoing northwest of Palmyra.

Meanwhile, the Russian Aerospace Forces conducted at least 2,000 sorties and carried out 5,850 airstrikes on terrorist targets.  Russia used Kalibr cruise missiles and Tu-95MC strategic bombers to destroy the most important ISIS targets.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have made some gains in the districts of al-Muazzafin, al-Hamra, and Nazlat Shehada and killed 14 ISIS members in the city of Raqqah.  However, clashes are still ongoing in these areas.

Considering the progress of the SDF advance, the US-led force is not going to liberate the city in the nearest future.  The Syrian military command used the SDF problems in Raqqah in order to launch a large-scale campaign against ISIS terrorists south of the Euphrates River.  This may lead to a situation where US-led forces will lose the race to the oil-rich province of Deir Ezzor even before the formal start of the campaign which is expected after the liberation of Raqqah.

Earlier this summer, many pro-US sources speculated that the SDF would capture Raqqah and the oil-rich Deir Ezzor countryside before the army and its allies reached the city.

One hundred forty-three Hayat Tahrir al-Sham members have been killed since the start of the Hezbollah-led advance in the Jaroud Arsal area at the Syrian-Lebanese border.  Hezbollah, backed up by the Syrian Army and the Lebanese Army, has retaken almost the entire area controlled by the group and allegedly lost only 19 fighters during the effort.  The ISIS-held part of Jaroud Arsal will become the next target of the Hezbollah-led operation.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Divide Spheres Of Influence <- told ya!
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 27, 2017, 02:26:51 am
Syrian War Report – July 26, 2017: SAA, SDF Divide Spheres Of Influence In Eastern Syria

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-26-2017-saa-sdf-divide-spheres-of-influence-in-eastern-syria

Syrian government forces, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, have liberated the village of Baghliyah and nearby hills from ISIS terrorist sin the eastern Homs countryside. Thus, the army and its allies outflanked Dabat Milli, Taliah Sharqiyah and deployed in a striking distance from Rasm Hamidah where clashes are now ongoing.
The general idea of this advance is to put additional pressure on ISIS terrorists north of the Homs-Palmyra highway and to contribute to a wider effort aimed at isolating and destroying a large ISIS grouping deployed at the town of Uqayribat. Pro-government units have been struggling to do this since June. However, ISIS has a strong defense and is not going to withdraw without the battle.

Meanwhile, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces and pro-government Tribal Forces have liberated of Shinan and Abar al-Jeraih near the Euphrates River in southern Raqqah.

The advance followed reports that the SAA and the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) made a deal dividing the spheres of influence in the provinces of Raqqah and Deir Ezzor on July 20. The agreement was reportedly backed by Russia. According to the agreement, the SAA and pro-government tribal forces will be able to gain areas in the southern and southeastern Raqqah countryside and the northwestern Deir Ezzor countryside without any resistance or antagonism from the SDF. This will allow government forces, backed by the Russian Aerospace Forces, to advance towards Deir Ezzor city from the countryside of Raqqah and Palmyra simultaneously.

Some 400 government fighters with battle tanks, multiple rocket launches and other equipment were allegedly deployed in Ukayrshah and Dahla near the contact line with the SDF. The total number of Tribal Forces fighters involved in the operation is about 4,000. The SDF allegedly abandoned plans to captured the western Deir Ezzor countryside.

If it’s true, the agreement will be an important contribution to a de-confliction scenario between the SDF and various pro-government forces. However, there could be some hidden terms and conditions behind the deal that may appear later. There is a lack of info from Raqqah provinces because of a strict media censorship imposed by the Syrian military. Meanwhile, the SDF avoids publishing info about its contacts with the SAA.

According to pro-Kurdish sources, the continued advancing in Raqqah city, repelled an ISIS attack killing 35 terrorists and seized a major part of Hisham Ibn Abdulmalik district. Some problems faced during the battle for Raqqah may be one of the reasons behind the alleged deal with the SAA.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Al Bundy on Jul 27, 2017, 09:47:35 am
Associated Press July 19

US President Donald Trump has decided to halt the CIA’s years-long covert program to arm and train moderate Syrian rebels  ::)  battling the regime of the nation’s president Bashar al-Assad. Russia had long pushed the United States to end the program.

The phasing out of the secret program was reported by The Washington Post on Wednesday. Officials told the newspaper that ending the operation reflects Trump’s interest in finding ways to work with Russia.

The program was a key component begun by the Obama administration in 2013 to put pressure on Assad to relinquish power. But even its supporters have questioned its usefulness since Moscow sent forces in Syria two years later.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-ends-covert-plan-to-arm-syrian-rebels/2017/07/19/c882b780-6ce0-11e7-abbc-a53480672286_story.html?utm_term=.38b4a6c8d891
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Discussion Of Recent Events In Syria And Iraq ..
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 28, 2017, 03:56:33 am
Discussion Of Recent Events In Syria And Iraq With Kevork Almassian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oW_XcD33Z0
Streamed live on Jul 26, 2017

Wednesday Live Stream: Interview With Syriana Analysis' Kevork Almassian, Discussion Of Recent Events In Syria And iraq.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Syrians Storming Strategic ISIS-held Town Of Sukhna
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 28, 2017, 03:58:59 am
Syrian War Report – July 26, 2017: Syrian Army Storming Strategic ISIS-held Town Of Sukhna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThgmnPe3uOM

On Wednesday, Syrian government forces liberated important hills southwest of Sukhna and established fire control over this strategic ISIS-held town in the province of Homs.  The advance was heavily supported by Russian and Syrian warplanes and attack helicopters. On Thursday, the army advanced further in the area.

Sukhna is one of the most important ISIS strongholds in the province.  However, the town is surrounded by a number of heights.  Thus, the side which controls these heights controls Sukhna.  Recent developments demonstrated that the Syrian military has a clear understanding of this.

In the province of Raqqah, the Syrian Army and allied tribal forces have liberated Tal Kharrar, Nuzayzah, and Rajm Sulayman and advanced on Sabkah and Ghanim Ali.  Government forces are now only 10km from entering the province of Deir Ezzor.

The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have announced that they liberated 8 districts of Raqqah comprising 45% of the city.

Owing to a failed attack by ISIS, the SDF allegedly killed 14 ISIS fighters in the Nazlat Shehadeh district.

Separately, the SDF allegedly killed 35 ISIS fighters and destroyed 4 ISIS VBIEDs during its advance in the districts of Hashim bin Abdul Malik, Al-Bareed, and Al-Rawda.

ISIS claimed that its members carried out 4 VBIED attacks and killed at least 21 SDF members.

Sources from the SDF-linked Raqqah Civil Council have announced that the Syrian military is preparing for an attack against the SDF in Raqqa signaling that only the US presence prevents this.  Several SAA sources denied these reports.

The current SAA goal is to lift the ISIS siege from the city of Deir Ezzor.  Most likely, the council’s statement is just a part of the ongoing US-led media-campaign against the SAA, the goal of which is to prevent cooperation between the Syrian military and Kurdish militias which are a core of the SDF.

Clashes between SDF and pro-Turkish militants have occured in the village of Jejan in northern Aleppo.  According to pro-Kurdish sources, the SDF repelled an advance and killed 16 militants.  In turn, Ahrar al-Sharqiya announced that it and Ahrar al-Sham took control over the village.

The situation remains unclear as sporadic firefights are still ongoing.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Syrians Storming Strategic ISIS-held Town Of Sukhna
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 28, 2017, 12:03:56 pm
Syrian War Report – July 26, 2017: Syrian Army Storming Strategic ISIS-held Town Of Sukhna


Were will CIA created ISIS IS US going to pop up next?
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ? - Syrians Storming Strategic ISIS-held Town Of Sukhna
Post by: EvadingGrid on Jul 28, 2017, 12:12:36 pm
Were will CIA created ISIS IS US going to pop up next?

Ukraine ?


Will the media will not question the credibility of such a daft implausible scenario ?
 ???
Title: Re: Trump on Syria - ISIS Still Has 20,000 Fighters At Syrian-Iraqi Battleground
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Jul 28, 2017, 01:16:21 pm
Syrian War Report – July 28, 2017: ISIS Still Has 20,000 Fighters At Syrian-Iraqi Battleground

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-28-2017-isis-still-has-20000-fighters-at-syrian-iraqi-battleground/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allies entered the Sukhna gas field located in less than 2km from the strategic ISIS-held town at the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor road. Heavy clashes are reportedly now ongoing in the gas field area. If government troops secure it, their next step will be to enter the town of Sukhna itself.

In the province of Raqqah, the SAA Tiger Forces and tribal forces liberated the Wadi ‘Ubayd oil-field and further advanced in the direction of the so-called Bishri Triangle in order to get control over this important logistical site. Clashes near Subkah and Ghanim Ali are ongoing.

In Raqqah city, the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have made a significant progress against ISIS in Nazlat Shehadeh district and captured Al-Mustafa Mosque that had been used as a defense point by ISIS. ISIS claimed that up to 10 SDF members died in clashes and a VBIED attack. However, the terrorist group has lost about 50% of the city to the SDF.

On Thursday, spokesman for the US-led coalition Col. Ryan Dillon revealed the current numbers of ISIS fighters in Syria and Iraq. According to Pentagon, about 20,000 ISIS fighters still control several areas in the two countries.
Col. Dillon said that between 5,000 and 10,000 fighters are now in the middle Euphrates Valley area running from Deir Ezzor to the Iraq-Syria border region. He also revealed that the number of remaining ISIS fighters in Raqqa is less than 2000. ISIS reportedly has 1,000 fighters in Tal Afar, 1,000 fighters in Hawija, and 1,000 fighters in Qaim area on the Syrian-Iraqi border.

Col. Dillon added that several ISIS commanders were killed over the past months, including Abu Sulayman al-Iraqi, senior propaganda official, Bassam al-Jayfus, ISIS terror attack funds, Ibrahim al-Ansari, ISIS propaganda official, Abu Ali al-Janubi, senior media director, Abu-Sayf al-‘Isawi, ISIS media emir, Abu-Khattab al-Rawi, another ISIS media emir, and Rayaan Meshaal, head and founder of the ISIS-linked Amaq News Agency.

Col. Dillon added that the collation stopped supporting Shuhada al-Qaryatayn Brigade. Col. Dillon said the group patrolled areas outside of the de-escalation zone and engaged in activities not related to fighting ISIS without the permission of the US-led coalition leadership. He added that the coalition only supports forces committed to fighting ISIS.

On July 23, Shuhada al-Qaryatayn Brigade announced that it had cut off its relationship with the coalition because it had demanded to stop attacks against the SAA. Shuhada al-Qaryatayn Brigade was one of the largest US-backed groups deployed the At Tanf base at the Syrian-Iraqi border.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Al Bundy on Jul 30, 2017, 06:04:01 pm
30 July، 2017   

Deir Ezzor, SANA- The warplanes of the US-led international coalition perpetrated a new massacre, claiming the lives of 6 civilians and injuring 10 others in Abu Kamal city in the eastern countryside of Deir Ezzor.
Local sources told SANA on Saturday that the warplanes of the coalition shelled Aish Hospital, al-Nadi, and al-Shuhada’a roundabout in Abu Kamal city, killing 6 civilians, among them women and children, and injuring 10 others, in addition to causing material damage to the infrastructure.

H. Zain/ Hazem Sabbagh

http://sana.sy/en/?p=110946http://
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: Dude447 on Jul 30, 2017, 06:10:25 pm
us/uk foreign policy Trump it would take a miracle to turn that around
Title: Re: Trump on Syria ?
Post by: #1 Trouble Maker on Jul 30, 2017, 08:52:06 pm
Another interview with Kevork Almassian.  The Bilderberg presstitutes get very nervous when Kevork Almassian, an Aleppo native, talks about how they (western presstitutes) all cheered on ISIS when they first took over the city.  Of course they are now all appalled, and if you point out that THEY promoted the killing of civilians then "you are denying that civilians got killed".  That's how these psychopaths think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1WTTS3Ijz0

Title: Re: Trump on Syria – July 31, 2017: Tiger Forces Enter Deir Ezzor Province
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 01, 2017, 02:17:02 am
Syrian War Report – July 31, 2017: Tiger Forces Enter Deir Ezzor Province

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-july-31-2017-tiger-forces-enter-deir-ezzor-province/

Government forces, led by the Syrian Arab army (SAA) Tiger Forces liberated more villages on the west bank of the Euphrates River in Raqqah province and entered the northwestern part of Deir Ezzor province.

Last weekend, the Tiger Forces and their allies captured Muqla Saghira, Al-Rabyeh, Al-Jubayli, Salim al-Hammad, Abu Hammad and Ghanim al-Ali, Wadi Al Tarab, Tal Al-Tarab, Al-Rujum, Wadi Al Kharayj and Wadi Hamamiya. ISIS had counter-attacked near Ghanim al-Ali and allegedly destroyed 3 SAA vehicles with ATGMs and killed over 20 SAA servicemen. However, the terrorist group was not able to retake the village.

On Monday, government forces started clearing the ISIS pocket in the Sabkah area. The crossroad town of Madaan located in about 67 km from the city of Deir Ezzor besieged by ISIS will likely become the next target of the operation. The Bishri Triangle is another high priority target for the advancing government forces. Capturing these sites, the SAA will establish control over the two key road heading to Deir Ezzor from the northwestern direction.
In Deir Ezzor city, the Republican Guard repelled an ISIS attack in the Al-Makbarah area and separately cut off the ISIS supply line to the cemetery area with a 280 meters long trench trapping the terrorists between the airbase and the government-held part of the city. An intense fighting is ongoing.

A new group of tribal fighters called the Euphrates Hawks joint the government advance on Sukhna signaling that more and more members of the Syrian tribes join the ranks of the Syrian government forces. Currently government forces are clashing with ISIS terrorists southwest of the town. The SAA controls a number of important high points, including Rajm Sabboun, Mount Qulaylat, Um Khasm hills and a part of Jabal Tuntur, that allows to predict that they will be able to develop advance further in coming days.

At least 18 ISIS members, two vehicles and a fuel tanker as well as a large fuel tanks convoy were destroyed by Syrian and Russia airstrikes in the eastern Hama countryside. The Russian and Syrian air forces had intensified airstrikes in the area ahead of another upcoming attempt to reach the key ISIS defense point of Uqayribat.

According to pro-Kurdish sources, last weekend, Turkish soldiers entered the villages of Siftik Wastani, Siftik Fawqani and Bubana in northern Aleppo but were pushed to retreat after a short confrontation with the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) dominated by Kurdish militias. If true, Ankara has just been testing the US reaction to possible limited military operations against Kurdish militias in northern Syria.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria - August 1, 2017: Army Repels Large ISIS Counter-Attack
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 02, 2017, 02:28:45 am
Syrian War Report – August 1, 2017: Army Repels Large ISIS Counter-Attack In Southern Raqqah

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-1-2017-army-repels-large-isis-counter-attack-in-southern-raqqah/

Government forces, led by the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces and pro-government tribal forces, have liberated the villages Wadi Kharrar, Subayat, Salim Hammad, Abu Hammad, Muqla Saghir, and Muqla Kabir and fully encircled ISIS terrorists in the Sabkah area in the southern part of Raqqah province.

Following the full encirclement of this area, the SAA and its allies started pressuring ISIS in Zawr Sham, Jibil, Rahbi, and Sabkah. In turn, ISIS members launched a series of counter-attacks in the area and even temporarily entered Ghanim Ali.  Intense fighting is now ongoing in the area. However, government forces, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, have an upper hand in this battle.

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and Hezbollah made a ceasefire deal in the Jaroud Arsal area at the Syrian-Lebanese border.  According to the deal, HTS members are withdrawing from Jaroud Arsal to the province of Idlib.  This will allow Hezbollah to launch the second phase of the operation in Jaroud Arsal and to focus on combating ISIS in the area.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), supported by the US-led coalition, have further advanced against ISIS in the districts of Shahada and Husham Abdulmalik in the city of Raqqah.  The SDF is attempting to isolate the Old Raqqah area from the southern direction in order to launch another attempt to seize this area from ISIS.

The Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) have repelled another ISIS attack in the border area with Syria, the PMU media wing reported on Monday.  According to the report, the PMU killed 100 ISIS members and destroyed 26 ISIS vehicles during the clashes.  However, without photos or videos, these numbers remain unconfirmed.

According to the Iraqi government, the Iraqi Army and the PMU will soon launch a joint military operation to liberate Tal Afar, one of the last remaining ISIS strongholds in Iraq.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria August 2, 2017: US-backed Forces Run Away From At Tanf
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 03, 2017, 02:56:13 am
Syrian War Report – August 2, 2017: US-backed Forces Run Away From At Tanf

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-2-2017-us-backed-forces-run-away-from-at-tanf/

In August, another group of Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra members in southeastern Syria defected to Syrian government forces, according to pro-opposition sources. In July, the first group of the US-backed force run away from the US-controlled at-Tanf garrison and surrendered with arms and equipment to the Syrian army. According to pro-government sources, the total number of defected militants is up to 30. The optimistic estimates said that Jaysh Maghawir al-Thawra had had up to 300 members before the recent developments. Thus, at least 10% of the US-backed group defected.

Meanwhile, Abu Omar al-Homsi, head of the media office of Shohadaa al-Qraiteen Brigade said that the US-led coalition had threatened to bomb the group’s HQs and positions if it rejected to return arms and equipment received from the coalition. In late July Shohadaa al-Qraiteen Brigade was excluded from the coalition-backed forces as a result of the group’s willingness to fight only the Syrian army and to ignore any ISIS threat.

This week clashes between pro-government forces and US-backed factions at Umm Rahil. The US-backed force allegedly used heavy artillery and rocket launchers in the clashes but made no gains.

With the recent developments, it becomes clear that the so-called US partner force in At Tanf does not more exist, as any kind of united entity and at least part of them do not even follow Washington’s orders. US-led coalition troops just use the brand of the opposition to justify their presence on the Syrian-Iraqi border.

Some pro-opposition sources speculate that the disagreements between the coalition and militants may push the US to withdraw forces from the border with Iraq. However, it’s not likely that the coalition will abandon this strategic position by own will.

Ahrar al-Sham released a statement confirming that Hassan Soufan (or Abu al-Bara) has replaced Ali Omar (Abu Ammar) as the group’s leader. Hassan Soufan obtained power following the group’s loss of a number of areas, including the city of Idlib, to Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda) in Idlib province. However, according to local sources, the new Ahrar al-Sham leader has much better relations with Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) than the previous one and supports HTS’ idea of unification of all Idlib militant groups under one command that without doubts would be dominated by HTS. Thus, this may be start of the end of Ahrar al-Sham as more or less independent entity and a major blow to Turkey that had relied on the group as on the tool of own influence in Idlib province.

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allies repelled all ISIS attacks in the southern part of Raqqah province and now are exploiting the initiative and Russian air support for further advances against the terrorist group in the area.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - US-led coalition used banned white phosphorus on civilians
Post by: David Icke Bot on Aug 07, 2017, 04:42:33 am
US-led coalition used banned white phosphorus on civilians in Syria – Damascus to UN

BY ANDREW CHEETHAM ON 7 AUGUST 2017 GMT
https://www.davidicke.com/article/422493/us-led-coalition-used-banned-white-phosphorus-civilians-syria-damascus-un

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‘The Syrian foreign ministry has, in correspondence to the United Nations, accused the US-led coalition of new atrocities against its civilians. It includes an attack on hospital in Raqqa and the use of “internationally banned white phosphorus munitions” against the Syrian people.

Renewing its calls to “immediately dissolve” the coalition which Damascus considers illegitimate, the ministry wrote two letters; one addressed to the UN Secretary General and the other to the Chairman of the UN Security Council, Syria’s state news agency SANA reported Sunday.

Citing the ministry statement, the report said the military alliance led by Washington had bombed residential neighborhoods and civilian houses, as well as destroying a national hospital in Raqqa, where the coalition is extensively backing the fight against the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorist group.

Damascus also claimed the coalition had violated international humanitarian law by deploying white phosphorus munitions in its attacks which targeted “innocent Syrian people in the provinces of Raqqa, Hasaka, Aleppo, Deir Ezzor and other Syrian cities,” SANA reported.’



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Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Aug 3 : Govt Forces Enter Strategic Sukhna Town In Homs
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 07, 2017, 05:10:14 am
Syrian War Report – August 3, 2017: Govt Forces Enter Strategic Sukhna Town In Homs Province

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-3-2017-govt-forces-enter-strategic-sukhna-town-in-homs-province/

On Wednesday, the Syrian Arab Army and the National Defense Forces (NDF) began a direct storm of the ISIS—held town of Sukhna at the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor highway.

Government forces captured the ISIS fortifications south and west of the town, stormed the southwestern entrance of the town, and captured several buildings. Syrian and Russian warplanes and attack helicopters supported the advance.

According to reports, a majority of the ISIS fighters withdrew from Sukhna last week, but dozens of them decided to stay in the town to defend it.  Most of these fighters are suicide bombers and snipers.

On Thursday, clashes in the area continued as government forces made additional efforts towards securing the town.  If the SAA and NDF are able to fully control the Sukhna area, government forces will be able to cut off supply lines leading to a collapse of the entire ISIS defense in the eastern Hama countryside.

The ISIS-linked News Agency Amaq claimed on Thursday that 32 Syrian soldiers were killed as a result of an attack on SAA positions east of Salamyah.  According to Amaq, ISIS fighters captured 6 SAA checkpoints near Al-Mafkar village and an SAA HQ in the Olive Press.  During the attack, ISIS fighters also managed to capture a tank, two bulldozers, two 23mm guns, two cars loaded with ammunition, and several vehicles.

Opposition sources claimed that ISIS attacked an SAA position south of Ithryiah with a VBIED, killing 30 Syrian soldiers.  Pro-government sources denied these claims.

The Syrian Defense Ministry announced that 330 vehicles, 3 battle tanks, 11 artillery pieces, 5 machine guns, 12 headquarters, and 3 weapons and munition depots belonging to ISIS were destroyed during the recent operations near the Euphrates River in the southern Raqqah countryside.  Government forces are now developing momentum in an attempt to consolidate the recent gains and to take control over additional important points in the area.

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) announced that its special operations forces infiltrated the Mallah area in western Aleppo and killed some 20 pro-government fighters, injured 10 others, and damaged a BMP vehicle.  According to pro-government sources, the SAA and NDF repelled the infiltration attempt and inflicted heavy casualties upon the terrorists.

The Syrian government has reportedly disbanded the Desert Hawks Brigade (Liwa Suqur al-Sahara). The decision followed a series of the questionable events linked to the group.  The Desert Hawks Brigade had been temporarily deployed to the eastern Hama countryside for a widely-expected operation to liberate the ISIS-held town of Uqayribat.  However, the brigade withdrew from the area after a few days of fighting. According to local sources, tensions with the SAA and other pro-government units were the reason behind the decision.

Members of the Desert Hawks Brigade will reportedly have an opportunity to join the SAA 5th Assault Corps, the Qalamoun Shield Forces, or other pro-government units.  The Desert Hawks Brigade’s commander, Colonel Mohammad Jaber allegedly left Syria and is now in Russia where he and his brother, Aymen al-Jaber, have some property.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Aug 4, 2017: Army, SDF Boost Cooperation, joint Ops
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 07, 2017, 05:12:34 am
Syrian War Report – August 4, 2017: Army, SDF Boost Cooperation, Set Up Joint Operations Room

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-4-2017-army-sdf-boost-cooperation-set-up-joint-operations-room/

Modern 9K333 Verba man-portable air-defense systems (MANPADs) have been spotted at positions of the Russian military servicemen in the Eastern Ghouta region near Damascus. The MANPADs were reportedly deployed to protect checkpoints and observation posts established by the Russians from DIY combat drones as well as other threats from the air.

ISIS has reportedly started forceful conscription campaign for males from 20-yo to 30-yo in Deir Ezzor. The goal is to get enough manpower to fight the Syrian Arab Army and its allies in central Syria. The decision is another sign that ISIS faces significant problems in northeastern Palmyra and southern Raqqah and its defense may fall if the terrorist group does not get additional resources.

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have reportedly established a joint operations room in order to coordinate efforts against ISIS in Deir Ezzor and Raqqa provinces as well as to improve the security situation in Aleppo province.

According to the Lebanese newspaper, Al-Akhbar, the operations room has already been established and this will be officially announced by the two parties soon. The so-called “Turkish threat” in northern Syria was the main reason behind the decision to boost the coordination between the two parties.

Turkey is allegedly ready to launch a large-scale military operation against Kurdish militias in the Afrin area. These Kurdish militias are a core of the SDF and now they seek to boost cooperation with the “Assad regime”. Another reason is tensions between the SDF and other US-backed groups of the Free Syrian Army.

Pro-government sources claimed that a joint operations room that include the SAA and the Manbij Military Council [Arab SDF faction] is currently being prepared in Al-Aryima area near Manbij. Thus, according various sources at least two operations room have been set up in different parts of northern Syria.

If reports are officially confirmed, it would be an important step in boosting cooperation between the two sides. Since the end of the battle of Aleppo, the SDF has decreased a level of the cooperation with the Syrian government and the SAA and directly followed the US approach aimed at indirectly undermining the government efforts against ISIS. However, these tensions have never reached the level when they cannot be solved via diplomatic means and some level of cooperation has been always existed.

In Raqqah city, the SDF has been clearing the remaining ISIS-held area in the southern part of the city. 26 ISIS members were reportedly killed in Hisham Bin Abdul Malik district. 9 other terrorists were killed and 2 VBIEDs were destroyed in Al-Rawdah district. ISIS claimed that 11 SDF fighters were killed the Al-Atiq Mosque in central Raqqah.

The SDF, supported by the US-led coalition’s airpower, artillery and special operations forces, have a upper hand in the battle for Raqqah. However, the ISIS strong has a strong defense inside the city.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Aug 7 : Sukhna Liberated, Army Continues Advance
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 07, 2017, 12:02:29 pm
Syrian War Report – August 7, 2017: Sukhna Liberated, Army Continues Advance

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-7-2017-sukhna-liberated-army-continues-advance/

Last weekend, Syrian government forces liberated the strategic town of Sukhna in the province of Homs. The town located 110km from the city of Deir Ezzor had been one of the key ISIS strongholds lying at the root of the ISIS defense in the provinces of Homs.

The Republican Guard, the 18th Armoured Division, Liwa Fatemiyoun and the National Defense Forces were main pro-government formations in involved in the operation. Government troops, supported by the Russian Aerospace Forces’ warplanes and attack helicopters, took control over the heights located west, south and southwest of Sukhna and established a full fire control over the town. ISIS repelled the first government forces attempt to enter the town but failed to repel a flanking maneuver from the western direction and were pushed to withdraw from the town after a series of firefights.

Following the success in Sukhna, government troops liberated Rjam al-Saboun, Tal Abu Qul, Rajm al-Qun and Tulul al-Meleh and deployed in a striking distance from the Doubayat gas field. A fighting is now ongoing in the area.
Now, the Syrian military command have two main options:

1. To develop the advance along the road between Sukhna and Resfafa in order to cut off the ISIS supply lines to the eastern Hama countryside;

2. To continue advancing in along the Palmyra-Deir Ezzor highway in an attempt to reach the city prior to the moment when ISIS is able to make successful flank attacks on the advancing grouping.

The first option looks more secure, but the second decision could be made because of political and diplomatic reasons. The Syrian military needs to reach the besieged city in order to pretend on the taking control of the strategic Deir Ezzor-Mayadin-Al-Bukamal road.

Meanwhile, reinforcements from the Qalamoun Shield Forces have arrived the eastern Homs countryside. This may indicate that the Syrian military is creating a striking force for another attempt to retake the ISIS-held town of Uqayrabat.

In the southern Raqqah countryside, the Tiger Forces and allied tribal forces have liberated Al-Hardan, Salim al-Hamad, al-Atashana, Muqla Saghira, Muqla Kabira, Al-Daa’ma, al Jaber and al-Kumaysah reaching the ISIS strong point of Maadan. The advance in the area is ongoing amid a chance that the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) could make attempt to cross the Euphrates River and to slow down the army advance on Deir Ezzor.
According to local and media sources, there is a unofficial military coordination between the Syrian military and the SDF. However, this does not suspend the competition for the oil and gas resources as well as the territory of eastern Syria.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Map
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 08, 2017, 07:01:40 am
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Title: Re: Trump on Syria Aug 8 : ISIS Deploys Reinforcements, Attempts Retake Sukhna
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 09, 2017, 05:20:20 am
Syrian War Report – August 8, 2017: ISIS Deploys Large Reinforcements, Attempts Retake Sukhna

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-8-2017-isis-deploys-large-reinforcements-attempts-retake-sukhna/

ISIS has reportedly deployed large reinforcements, including experienced infantry and technicals, from the terrorist group’s strong points in the eastern Salamiyah countryside in order to retake the strategic town of Sukhna from the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its allies.

According to reports, a notable ISIS force is still shelling government forces from the high ground north of Sukhna.  Meanwhile, a high number of IEDs and a threat of suicide bombing attacks prevent government forces from advancing in the Sukhna countryside.

On Monday, the SAA repelled a few ISIS attacks, but on Tuesday, sporadic clashes continued appearing near the town.

If ISIS is able to deploy enough reinforcements and to re-group before the SAA captures the town and the nearby hills, the terrorists will likely have a chance to take Sukhna back.  The situation remains tense. According to pro-government sources, ISIS lost up to 40 members in the clashes for Sukhna.

According to the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), 64 ISIS members have been killed in the recent clashes between the terrorist group and government forces: 30 in Sukhna, 18 in southern Raqqah, and 16 in eastern Hama.  The SOHR also reported that 14 government forces service members were killed.

East of Salamiyah, the SAA and the National Defense Forces liberated the village of Manoukh and the nearby Manoukh hill.  The advance followed the liberation of Marina village southeast of the town of Ithryah.  Both advances were part of the wider effort aimed at increasing pressure on ISIS units east of Salamiyah and clearing the key area of Uqayrabat from ISIS terrorists.  This also helps to pre-occupy ISIS manpower, complicating any ISIS attempt at launching a counter-attack on Sukhna.

In Deir Ezzor, government forces repelled another ISIS attempt to advance on the army base and killed some 12 ISIS members.

In the city of Raqqah, the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) seized Karim district and a large part of Ramelah district.  Local sources report that a dozen ISIS members were killed or wounded as a result of airstrikes and artillery shelling.


Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Aug 9 : US-led Coalition Strikes PMU In Border Area
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 11, 2017, 03:47:21 am
Syria & Iraq War Report – August 9, 2017: US-led Coalition Strikes PMU In Border Area

https://southfront.org/syria-iraq-war-report-august-9-2017-tensions-grow-as-us-led-coalition-strikes-pmu-in-border-area/

Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces and tribal forces fighters have liberated Jabir, Numaysah, Khamisiyah and Wadi Susah near the important ISIS-held town of Maadan in the province of Raqqah.

The government forces advanced amid the ongoing fighting in the area of Sukhna in the province of Homs. ISIS is desperately trying to stop the SAA advance along the Sukhna-Resafa and the Sukhna-Deir Ezzor roads and deploys reinforcements to the area. This allows government forces to advance on other frontlines.

Pro-government forces, led by the Republican Guard, are advancing against Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and its allies in Jobar and Ayn Tarma in the Eastern Ghouta region near Damascus. The group is excluded from the ceasefire because it has links with al-Qaeda.

The general idea of the government advance in the area is to put pressure on militants in Jobar and then to Isliate the district from Ayn Tarma. The control over the area of Zamalka and the nearby roads plays a key role in the strategy.

The SAA and its allies liberated from US-backed militants a large area in the Damascus desert, including Tal Assadi, Tal Jarin, Tal Riyahayn and Bi’r Saboun. Thus, government forces have shortened frontline and further isolated the US garrison at At Tanf.

Tensions are growing between the US-led coalition and the Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) in Iraq.
On August 7, from 40 to 70 PMU service members were reportedly killed and at least 6 units of the military equipment were destroyed as a result of the ISIS attack in the Akashat area at the Iraqi side of the At Tanf border crossing and the US military strikes that allegedly took place during the fighting.

According to initial reports, the US-led coalition conducted at least 1 air strike on the positions of the PMU. Then, Kata’ib Sayyid al-Shuhada (the Martyrs of Sayyid Battalions, a PMU group deployed in the area) clarified that the US-led coalition had used the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System from the At Tanf garrison.

Kata’ib Sayyid al-Shuhada said that the coalition was aware that the military strikes hit the PMU and called on leaders of the PMU factions to held a meeting in order to discuss the incident and to prepare an appropriate response to the aggression.

The US-led coalition obviously denied any strikes on the PMU while pro-US sources speculated that the PMU just tried to blame the coalition for own losses in the battle against ISIS.

The two sides already have complicated relations because they support different sides in the ongoing Syrian conflict and have different visions of the Iraqi future after the collapse of ISIS. PMU factions oppose the US willingness to determine the Iraqi foreign and internal policy and seek to re-establish Iraq as an independent regional player.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Aug 10 : Army Inflicts Large Casualties To ISIS
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 11, 2017, 03:51:34 am
Syrian War Report – August 10, 2017: Army Inflicts Large Casualties To ISIS Terrorists

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-10-2017-army-repels-isis-attack-inflicts-large-casualties-to-terrorists/

Government forces have repelled a large-scale ISIS advance in the area of Humaymah and the T2 pumping station at the Syrian-Iraqi border.

The advance started on Wednesday with an attack by ISIS suicide bombers and 5 vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices.  The terrorists reportedly took 3 Syrian Arab Army (SAA) checkpoints, but failed to develop the advance.  Pro-government troops, backed up by the Russian Aerospace Forces, counter-attacked and forced the terrorists to retreat.

According to ISIS, over 70 government fighters were killed in the clashes.  Maj General Ghasan Yunis was reportedly among the killed servicemen.  In turn, pro-government sources claimed that the SAA killed up to 80 ISIS members, destroyed several vehicles, and seized 11 other vehicles.  The numbers provided by both sides look overestimated.

In July, the Russian Defense Ministry released a map showing the T2 pumping station and the village of Humaymah as being under the control of the SAA.  However, in reality, both sites remain in the hands of ISIS despite SAA attempts to liberate the area.

The situation remains complicated in the area of Sukhna.  ISIS continues counter-attacks on government troops in the town and prevents them from removing IEDs planted by terrorists and establishing fortifications.  Thus, the area is now unsecured and ISIS stands a chance of taking back Sukhna.

In the city of Raqqah, the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have isolated the old part of the city from the southern direction after retaking the whole Hisam Abdulmalik district.  Now, the SDF will likely focus on breaking the ISIS defense inside Old Raqqah.  If this area falls, ISIS will likely not be able to keep control over the rest of the city for much longer.

The Israeli Haaretz newspaper reported that Israeli officials held a series of secret meetings with representatives from the US and Russia regarding the cease-fire in southern Syria.  Israel pushed the agenda of reducing the Iranian influence in Syria and of withdrawing Iranian and Iranian-backed forces from the war torn country as a key issue of the ceasefire.  However, Tel Aviv failed to achieve its goal.  This leak most likely shows that Israel is now preparing for further actions in order to defend that which it sees as its own interests in the region.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Aug 11 : Govt Forces Liberate 30km Jordan Border
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 12, 2017, 06:55:11 am
Syrian War Report – August 11, 2017: Government Forces Liberate 1,300km2 Near Jordanian Border

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-11-2017-government-forces-liberate-1300km2-near-jordanian-border/

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA), the National Defense Forces (NDF), the Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP) military wing and other pro-government factions have liberated from US-backed militant groups 1300 km2 in southeastern Syria, including 30 km of the border with Jordan. The recently liberated area includes Tal al-Tabaqah, Tal al-Riahi, Tal Asda, Tal al-Ezami, Bir al-Sout and the Abu Sharshouh crossing other posts and points near the border.

US-backed militants withdrew to the al-Rushd refugee camp where they could hide from government forces attacks and airstrikes. According to pro-government sources, the Russian Aerospace Forces participated the SAA-led advance. This confirms that Moscow supports the Damascus willingness to regain control over its borders and to drive US-led coalition troops out from the occupied garrisons near At Tanf.

The control over the border will also decrease significantly arms and goods trafficking in which so-called US partner forces are deeply involved.

ISIS has been evacuating its members from the key town of Maadan in the southern Raqqah countryside, according to pro-government sources. Earlier this week, the SAA Tiger Forces and tribal forces allies reached Maadan and seized a number of villages near it threatening to encircle the ISIS-held town. This situation allegedly became a main reason behind the reported ISIS decision.

In the eastern Hama countryside, the SAA recaptured Khara’eb al-Katna area, Mount Doyleb and Tal al-Mazrou from ISIS.

In the area of Sukhna, government forces are dismantling IEDs set up by ISIS in the town amid continued clashes with terrorists. ISIS and its suicide bombers still pose a notable threat to the SAA there but it seems that the terrorist group will not be able to take Sukhna back.

The ISIS-linked News Agency Amaq published an infographic showing alleged losses of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) during the 2 months of the battle for Raqqah. According to ISIS, 1040 SDF members were killed, 207 of them because of sniper fire, 40 SDF vehicles and a bulldozer were destroyed and a UAV was downed. ISIS also damaged 3 BMP vehicles and 6 other vehicles. In total, the terrorist group conducted 54 raids against the SDF, including 36 suicide vehicle borne improvised explosive device attacks.

On Thursday, the Pentagon announced that a US Special Operation Forces vehicle came under sniper fire near Manbij city in the northeastern Aleppo countryside. No casualties were inflicted. Army Col. Ryan Dillon said that the US-led coalition do not know who is behind the attack. According to local sources, ISIS was likely behind it.

The tensions between the Kurdish-dominated SDF and the Arab population as well as the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas by the US-led coalition create a situation when a notable number of long-standing ISIS supporters remain and new supporters appear in the areas formally liberated from the terrorist group. Following the formal defeat of ISIS, the US-led coalition will likely face an ISIS-led insurgency campaign in Syria and Iraq. The same problem that the US forces faced following the invasion in Iraq.

Title: Re: Trump on Syria - Aug 14 : Govt-held Area In Syria Grown Significantly
Post by: SouthFront Bot on Aug 15, 2017, 03:28:03 am
Syrian War Report – August 14, 2017: Govt-held Area In Syria Grown Significantly Over Two Months

https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-august-14-2017-govt-held-area-in-syria-grown-significantly-over-two-months/

The area controlled by the Damascus government in Syria has grown by 250 percent over the past two months, Russian Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu said on Sunday. Shoigu added that the liberation of the key town of Sukhna in the province of Homs opens an opportunity to lift the ISIS siege from the strategic city of Deir Ezzor. He added that Russia has “started persuading our American colleagues that terrorists should be separated from opposition to understand where to strike… Establishing the de-escalation zones today is exactly this separation.”
On Saturday, special operations units from the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) Tiger Forces carried out a successful air landing operation behind ISIS lines at the administrative border between Homs and Raqqah provinces.

Government troops led by Tiger Forces Commander Suheil al-Hassan were transported by 4 Mi-35 attack helicopters to the eastern Raqqah countryside 21km behind the frontline and liberated Khirbet Makman village, Al-Qadir town and Bir Rahum. Government troops are now deployed in only about 40 km from the recently liberated town of Sukhna.

Special operations forces killed and injured large numbers of ISIS fighters, and destroyed 3 battle tanks, 17 armed vehicles, 7 VBIEDs, and captured two VBIEDs, two tanks and several ISIS artillery pieces during the operation, according to the Syrian Ministry of Defense.
This was the first ever air landing operation conducted by the SAA during the ongoing war. It showed the growing military capabilities of the SAA supported and trained by Russia and Iran.

Meanwhile, the SAA and tribal forces continued pressuring ISIS in the town of Maadan nea