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WW2: Western Front
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Al Bundy

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Aug. 13, 1942

By ANDREW GLASS

08/13/2017 06:50

On this day in 1942, Soviet Premier Josef Stalin sent a memorandum to British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and President Franklin D. Roosevelt pressing them to reverse their decision not to launch an early invasion of German-occupied Western Europe.
In his memo, Stalin, whose beleaguered Russian armies had been contending with a German invasion for more than a year, sought to impress upon the Americans and the British the necessity of relieving the pressure on Russia’s western front.


On the following day, Churchill sent a “most secret” cable to Stalin that read in part: “[An] attack with 6 or 8 Anglo-American divisions on the Cherbourg Peninsula and the Channel Islands would be a hazardous and futile operation.

“The Germans have enough troops in the West to block us in this narrow peninsula with fortified lines, and would concentrate all their air forces in the West upon it. In the opinion of all the British naval, military and air authorities the operation could only end in disaster.

“Even if the lodgment were made, it would not bring a single division back from Russia. It would also be far more a running sore for us than for the enemy, and would use up wastefully and wantonly the key men and the landing craft required for real action in 1943. This is our settled view.”

Churchill concluded by telling Stalin: “We reaffirm our resolve to aid our Russian allies by every practicable means.”

The Anglo-American plan, which was executed in the wake of a summit conference between FDR and Churchill in Casablanca, called for kicking the Germans out of Africa and then knocking Italy, which had initially cast its lot with the Germans, out of the war.

The alliance between the United States, Great Britain and the Soviet Union began to unravel soon after the German threat was vanquished in May 1945. Indications of the depth of the tensions between the allies had surfaced in February of that year at the Black Sea resort of Yalta, where Churchill, Stalin, and Roosevelt met to plan the final defeat and occupation of Nazi Germany, which was to be carved up into four occupation zones.

By NANCY COOK

Also on the agenda at Yalta was the question of how to deal with the defeated or liberated countries of Eastern Europe, particularly Poland, which had established a government-in-exile in London that Moscow shunned.

Roosevelt was later criticized for failing to have taken a more decisive stance at Yalta to prevent Stalin from seizing and holding on to large swaths of pre-war eastern Germany as well as East Prussia. These lands were turned over to a pro-Soviet government to Poland to compensate the Poles for Stalin’s decision to annex much of pre-war eastern Poland and to attach it to the Soviet Union. ::)

SOURCE: MEMO FROM STALIN, AIDE MEMOIRE IN RUSSIAN, AMERICAN TREASURES OF THE U.S. LIBRARY OF CONGRESS. MANUSCRIPT DIVISION.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/13/stalin-pressures-allies-to-open-second-front-in-europe-aug-13-1942-241505



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'National narcissism' means Britons, Americans and Russians ALL think their country was responsible for winning WWII
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7349297/National-narcissism-means-Britons-Americans-Russians-think-won-WWII.html#readerCommentsCommand-message-field



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'National narcissism' means Britons, Americans and Russians ALL think their country was responsible for winning WWII
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7349297/National-narcissism-means-Britons-Americans-Russians-think-won-WWII.html#readerCommentsCommand-message-field

Indeed Hollywood could it blame for narcissism of Americans. They still made so much movie about WW2 that is logic for Americans to think they US Army "most responsible for winning WWII". Producers have no interest in making war films where US soldiers are not heroes but or even do not appear in those films. "Enemy at the gates" was recorded. Great movie. But it is filmed because the Stalingrad battle cannot even be ignored by powerful Hollywood.

I think the British "narcissism" about WW2 comes from the great ones BBC documentary films and from schools. I have not heard that in these documentaries there was room for Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk, Leningrad, Okinawa, Midway...

After the collapse or breakup of the Soviet Union, Yeltsin and his government received "advice" from the West that democratized Russia
need not address her role in the victory over Adolf Hitler nor any support from the Russian rulers and the Russian people, but vice versa
only what the Russians in their history should be ashamed of (Gulags ...).
After consolidating Putin's power and consolidating the Russian Federation,
Many high-budget films are being made about Russian history and especially about the "Great Fatherland War" as WW2 is called on Russia's ground and the counterattack that ended in the Soviet triumph in Berlin.
There is no need to say that American war movies cinemas still shown in Russian cinemas.

I also think that "national narcissism" is a contribution to the poor political relations between the US, England and Russia.
That is my opinion on this subject.



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