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« Reply #75 on: Nov 05, 2019, 04:59:36 pm »
 

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After the capture of Pozega, communist guerrillas also occupied another town - Cacak.

In a fierce battle between Partisans and Chetniks, Royalist Commander Cap. Jovan Deroko (29!) was killed.





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« Reply #76 on: Nov 08, 2019, 09:03:35 am »
 

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11/8 1941.  Uzice, Serbia

Only Serbs ( in 2 guerrilla front !) fight and die in the fight for the liberation of Yugoslavia!
Slovenes, Macedonians, Croats or Muslims are have no reason for fight against Fascism


Although Partisans are fighting Chetniks, Commander Tito made a "proclamation" ( in fact order ) on behalf of the Central Committee of Communist Yugoslavia to the Macedonian people, in which he calls for an armed uprising against fascist occupiers ( Albanians and the Bulgarian Army).


Serbia cannot accept occupation

It is the first Tito`s proclamation to be scattered in present-day Northern Macedonia, because the communists there were either Macedonians or The Bulgarians did not want an uprising. Macedonians were other cowards and unlike the Serbian Communists, Bulgarian Communists did not want to shoot at Bulgarian Regular Army ( although their Fascist Army ).



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« Reply #77 on: Nov 09, 2019, 07:41:18 pm »
 

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In USA comic books about commander of Yugoslav Army in Fatherland - General Draza Maihailovic.





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« Reply #78 on: Nov 25, 2019, 02:57:52 pm »
 

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Temporary Armistice of the Chetniks of the Yugoslav Royal Army under the command of Col. Mihailovic and Communists under the command of Tito. Where did it come from? Maybe this is the reason:
After the defeat of the Germans in Moscow by the Soviet Army, Tito was authorized, through the "red channels," to continue the fight against Chetnik anti-fascists (?!), who then admitted not only the Yugoslav royal government in London, but also the United Kingdom and soon the United States.

Civil war 2 anti-fascist guerrillas continued to the end WW2. :(



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« Reply #80 on: Dec 31, 2019, 12:45:14 pm »
 

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December 1941, the Nazis failed to conquer Moscow but they brutally suppressed the uprising in Serbia


The German regiments destroyed the self-claimed Partisan Republic, but Tito and his high members of the Communist Party managed to save themselves.
Although King Peter II was promoted from London by Colonel Dragoljub - Draža Mihailovic to the rank of Brigadier General, the Military Chetniks were in no better situation , so the order was that they scatter into forests, hills, and mountains waiting for spring. Even the Germans were on the verge of capturing Gen. Mihailović. However, the Nazis did capture retired Major Alexandar Misic and his Slovenian friend Maj. Ivan Fregl.
The Germans suggested Maj. Misic (the son of Field Marshal Zivojin Misic) to seek mercy because his mother, Lucia, was German.
Aleksandar Misic refused.


Majors of Yugoslav Royal Army - Slovenian Ivan Fregl and Aleksandar Misic

He is emphasizing that all of his German blood ran out of him back in World War I when he was wounded.
A famous journalist from Belgrade's Politika, Bogoslav Marjanovic, wrote that the Germans had asked Misic and Fregl for their last wish before the shooting. The muscle asked for his eyes to be tied and not to be shot in the head. Fregl said, "My last wish is to command the enemies of my people, the barbarians of the Germans, to fire my own firing, and to be allowed to go to death - shattered shoes."




When Fregl let out an exclamation of "FIRE!," Misic removed his shoe and wrapped it in a firing squad. Thus, at least symbolically, he died fighting and never surrendering. Germans killed them near city of Valjevo.

Glory to them.



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Re: Balkans in WW2: Serbian children
« Reply #81 on: Jan 27, 2020, 05:13:07 pm »
 

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List of killed and murdered mostly Serbian children on the territory of "Independent State of Croatia" (1941-1945) - 74,580 listed by first and last name

January 27, 2020
Although most of the victims were Ustashas, children from all the warring parties were listed, as well as those for whom the exact cause and culprit of death were not known.


Serbian children i concentration camp in Sisak

The total number of children killed up to 14 years (up to 14 years) is 74,580 (seventy-four thousand five hundred eighty). We are reminded that, by statistical standards, the usual estimate is that the number of censuses represents about one fifth of the total number of victims.

Illustrations: Jasenovac camp has 14,241 registered victims, children's camps Stara Gradiška (4,823), Sisak (1,245), Jastrebarsko (213)…

We emphasize that the list is incomplete, and that it is of the utmost importance that all those who have information on the unaccounted for killed children from the territory of the "Independent State of Croatia" appear.



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« Reply #82 on: Feb 16, 2020, 04:13:00 pm »
 

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1/12 1941 Belgrade

At six in the afternoon, British Ambassador Ronald Cambell he announced that the English would be landing in Greece (official talks began in Athens within two days), Yugoslav Regent Pavle Karadjordjevic lost control of himself and literally ousted the Ambassador from office.

Reading the report, British PM Churchill said:
"Regent Pavle's attitude is like keeping an unhappy man in a tiger cage, and he hopes he won't be challenged as time goes on dinners are inexorably get close ".

Source: M. Jankovic and journalist V. Lalic "The Truth About March 27", Belgrade, 2007.



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« Reply #83 on: Feb 18, 2020, 03:40:48 pm »
 

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2/14 1941. Berghof (residence ), Germany

One year after Gen. Jodl lamented "how Hitler treats Yugoslavia as a midday" meeting in Bavaria.

Negotiations between the Prime Ministers and Heads of Diplomacy of Germany and Yugoslavia: Hitler, von Ribentrop and Cvetkovic and Dr. Cincar-Markovic (ex-ambassador in Germany).
The Fuhrer reiterated the demands to the Yugoslav delegation: the Kingdom Yugoslavia must join the Axis Powers or else ...



Yugoslav PM Dragisa Cvetkovic subjected Hitler to gentle neutrality ( Axis Pact means political an military Pact against Allies from Great War) , pointing to Yugoslav economic services to Germany and that Yugoslavia would not serve England. In order to avoid access to the Pact of the Axis and gain in time, Cvetkovic offered to create a neutral Balkan bloc (which would even help reconcile Italy and Greece). Hitler denied this without debate, and given that the Axis would win the war, he demanded that Yugoslavia join the Axis Pact.But Hitler surprising promise that
Germany will not ask from Yugoslavia any military help if Belgrade sign Pact with Axis Powers.

Cvetkovic replied that there was no such authority for Regent Pavle Karadjordjevic, so Hitler requested that Regent personally come to him.

Source: M. Jankovic and journalist V. Lalic "Istina o 27.martu" ( The True about 3/27 1941." ) ; Belgrade, 2007.

It is interesting that the Ambassador of Yugoslavia to Germany, former Freemason and Serbian writer Ivo Andric, was neither informed nor attended the negotiations (?!).

"I appreciate the heroism of the Serbian army in the past war, which so famously defended the freedom and independence of its people ... We want a strong Yugoslavia, so we have special regard for you" (Hitler).

P.S. in the Great War, Hitler would have been very familiar with the "heroism of the Serbian army", but was returned home by the Austro-Hungarian army because of his illness. Hitler was furious.



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2/14 1941. Berghof (residence ), Germany

One year after Gen. Jodl lamented "how Hitler treats Yugoslavia as a midday" meeting in Bavaria.

Negotiations between the Prime Ministers and Heads of Diplomacy of Germany and Yugoslavia: Hitler, von Ribentrop and Cvetkovic and Dr. Cincar-Markovic (ex-ambassador in Germany).
The Fuhrer reiterated the demands to the Yugoslav delegation: the Kingdom Yugoslavia must join the Axis Powers or else ...



Yugoslav PM Dragisa Cvetkovic subjected Hitler to gentle neutrality ( Axis Pact means political an military Pact against Allies from Great War) , pointing to Yugoslav economic services to Germany and that Yugoslavia would not serve England. In order to avoid access to the Pact of the Axis and gain in time, Cvetkovic offered to create a neutral Balkan bloc (which would even help reconcile Italy and Greece). Hitler denied this without debate, and given that the Axis would win the war, he demanded that Yugoslavia join the Axis Pact.But Hitler surprising promise that
Germany will not ask from Yugoslavia any military help if Belgrade sign Pact with Axis Powers.

Cvetkovic replied that there was no such authority for Regent Pavle Karadjordjevic, so Hitler requested that Regent personally come to him.

Source: M. Jankovic and journalist V. Lalic "Istina o 27.martu" ( The True about 3/27 1941." ) ; Belgrade, 2007.

It is interesting that the Ambassador of Yugoslavia to Germany, former Freemason and Serbian writer Ivo Andric, was neither informed nor attended the negotiations (?!).

"I appreciate the heroism of the Serbian army in the past war, which so famously defended the freedom and independence of its people ... We want a strong Yugoslavia, so we have special regard for you" (Hitler).

P.S. in the Great War, Hitler would have been very familiar with the "heroism of the Serbian army", but was returned home by the Austro-Hungarian army because of his illness. Hitler was furious.



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2/18 1941 Moscow -> Belgrade (secret dispatch)

The first ! ambassador of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia to the USSR, Milan Gavrilovic, informed from the German Embassy in Moscow how the Nazis saw to meet Hitler and the Yugoslav delegation.
"On the occasion of the meeting between PМ Cvetkovic and FМ Dr. Cincar-Markovic with the Fuhrer, I was surprised to see the German Embassy. The Germans spoke to me openly:
"Yugoslavia accepts Fuhrer's demands or refuses, her fate is sealed. If Yugoslavia accepts, she can still save Serbia by gaining Slovakia status; and if he refuses, Yugoslavia will be completely destroyed. Bosnia would belong to Croatia, thus becoming part of the Italian Empire
the status of a protectorate
. Germany annexes Slovenia. The rest is shared with Hungarians, Bulgarians and again Italians. "

Source: M. Janković and V. Lalic "The Truth About March 27", Belgrade, 2007.



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2/18 1941 Moscow -> Belgrade (secret dispatch)

The first ! ambassador of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia to the USSR, Milan Gavrilovic, informed from the German Embassy in Moscow how the Nazis saw to meet Hitler and the Yugoslav delegation.
"On the occasion of the meeting between PМ Cvetkovic and FМ Dr. Cincar-Markovic with the Fuhrer, I was surprised to see the German Embassy. The Germans spoke to me openly:
"Yugoslavia accepts Fuhrer's demands or refuses, her fate is sealed. If Yugoslavia accepts, she can still save Serbia by gaining Slovakia status; and if he refuses, Yugoslavia will be completely destroyed. Bosnia would belong to Croatia, thus becoming part of the Italian Empire
the status of a protectorate
. Germany annexes Slovenia. The rest is shared with Hungarians, Bulgarians and again Italians. "

Source: M. Janković and V. Lalic "The Truth About March 27", Belgrade, 2007.



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February 1941 Belgrade-> Rome

Yugoslav Regent Pavle Karadjordjevic faces an urgent choice: either to accept the Pact with the Axis Powers or to enter the war against Germany?

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Anglophile and opponent of any dictatorship Regent Pavle turns to Fascist Italy. He sends a special envoy to Stakic to Rome with the question: "Can Yugoslavia avoid signing a Pact with the Axis Powers?"

Italian PM Mussolini proposes new Belgrade contract and Rome. Yugoslavia's help for Italy to conquer Greece? Regent Paul refuses. He kept a letter in his file - Greek PM I. Metaxas, who points out that he was deeply moved by Regent with the promise that Yugoslavia would never issue "the law of honor and their glorious traditions ".

Source: M. Jankovic and journalist V. Lalic "The Truth About March 27", Belgrade, 2007.



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