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Title: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Sep 27, 2020, 02:35:03 PM
Violence Erupts Between Armenia And Azerbaijan Over Long-Disputed Region

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/27/917489413/violence-erupts-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan-over-long-disputed-region



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: EvadingGrid on Sep 28, 2020, 04:33:01 AM
It was the leading story on RT News this morning.



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Sep 29, 2020, 02:23:13 PM
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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: EvadingGrid on Sep 30, 2020, 04:36:04 AM
Azerbaijan And Armenia's Forces: The Numbers

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As of September 24th, Azerbaijan and Armenia have introduced martial law, and the situation is nearing all-out conflict over the Nagorno Karabakh region.

Below is a brief comparison of the capabilities of both countries.

According to Global Firepower, Armenia is ranked 111th out of 138 countries considered for the annual GFP review 2020.

Azerbaijan, on the other hand sits at 64th position.

In terms of population, Azerbaijan has a population more than 3 times larger, sitting at 9.9 million, compared to Armenia's 3 million.

The available manpower for Azerbaijan sits at 5 million, while Armenia's is at 1.7 million.

The active personnel of the militaries, however, is quite comparable.

For Azerbaijan it sits at 67,000, while for Armenia it is 45,000. However, Baku has almost twice as many reserve personnel sitting at 307 thousand, compared to Yerevan's 171 thousand.

The defense budget gap is massive, with Azerbaijan's sitting at upwards of $3.2 billion, while Armenia's is at upwards of $225 million.

In terms of naval capability, Armenia has no navy, but it is unlikely that such assets would play any role in a possible conflict. Azerbaijan has 4 submarines, 1 frigate, and 12 patrol crafts.

In terms of air power, the total aircraft Armenia has at its disposal sits at 64.

Out of it 11 are attack aircraft, 18 are transport aircraft.

In total, Armenia has 42 helicopters, out of which 15 are attack types.

In comparison, Azerbaijan sits at 135 aircraft. It has 18 fighter jets and interceptors, 29 attack aircraft and 64 transport aircraft.

It has 93 helicopters, out of which 17 are attack types.

Finally, in terms of ground forces, Azerbaijan has 1,451 armored fighting vehicles, 187 units of self-propelled artillery, 227 units of towed artillery, 162 rocket projectors and 570 tanks.

Armenia, on the other hand, has 748 armored fighting vehicles, 38 units of self-propelled artillery, 150 units of towed artillery and 68 rocket projectors. It has 110 tanks.

In pure numbers, Azerbaijan greatly outclasses the Armenian military capability, in addition to Turkey allegedly deploying Syrian militants to assist, as well as providing it with Bayraktar TB-2 strike UAVs, and it also operating various Israeli types.

Russia, and likely Iran, are potential allies that would likely provide assistance to Armenia in the case of a larger conflict.



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: EvadingGrid on Sep 30, 2020, 04:45:50 AM
Quick Guide



Armenia's - Azerbaijan's
SU-30 - VERSUS  -  second hand ex-Ukraine MiG-29
T-72 (137)   - VERSUS  -  T-72 (470)
T-80 (20)     - VERSUS  -  T-90 (100)



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia - Syrian National Army deployed
Post by: EvadingGrid on Sep 30, 2020, 04:56:34 AM
Both sides are not only claiming that they are gaining an upper hand in the war, but also accuse each other of using foreign mercenaries and terrorists. YPG v Syrian National Army


Turkey's "Syrian National Army" Confirms Deployment Of Its Members In Azerbaijan

"General" Ziyad Haji Ubeyd, one of the leaders of the pro-Turkish coalition of militant groups known as the Syrian National Army (SNA) confirmed that the group had sent its fighters to Azerbaijan.

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"Fighters have to go to conflict in Azerbaijan to provide for their families due to bad economic conditions. "The economic situation in Afrin, Sere Kaniye and other regions is very bad and they cannot support their families," Ubeyd told in an interview with Rudaw TV.

"We are ready to fight anywhere in Turkey's national interests and security. We're defending our interests to realize our goals."


The SNA commander claimed that there are 70,000 SNA members that are ready to participate in Turkish operations anywhere around the world. Ubeyd emphasized that they are ready to go to support the Turkish Army in Azerbaijan or wherever it is, if requested.

Earlier, Armenia claimed that at least 4,000 members of Turkish-backed Syrian militant groups were deployed in Azerbaijan.






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Title: Re: Conflict: Turkey versus Armenia ?
Post by: Al Bundy on Oct 02, 2020, 05:16:38 PM
"Sultan" Erdogan vows struggle until end of Karabakh occupation !!! >:( >:(

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/azerbaijan-front-line/erdogan-vows-struggle-until-end-of-karabakh-occupation/1993513



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Title: Re: Conflict: Turkey versus Armenia ?
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2020, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: Al Bundy on Oct 02, 2020, 05:16:38 PM
"Sultan" Erdogan vows struggle until end of Karabakh occupation !!! >:( >:(

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/azerbaijan-front-line/erdogan-vows-struggle-until-end-of-karabakh-occupation/1993513



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Not good that Turkey & Erdogan want to be involved.



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Title: Re: Conflict: Turkey versus Armenia ?
Post by: Al Bundy on Oct 03, 2020, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: EvadingGrid on Oct 03, 2020, 04:33:16 PM
Not good that Turkey & Erdogan want to be involved.



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EG, it is bad.
Erdogan are think for himself that is a Sultan and they want to revise Ottoman Empire.
Turks shot down Russian air plane (!), then from Russia buy S-300 Air-defense System (!), Ghia Sofia no more museum in Istanbul, Nagorno Karabakh then retreat on Balkans ( for now there are MIT intelligence operation ).










President of Serbia A. Vucic and President of Turkey Erdogan in Novi Pazar, Serbia. In that city and around leave many Muslims.

East of Cyprus still are on occupation of Turkish Army. Maybe, one day, "Sultan" will ordered Turkish Army :"liberate" rest of island Cyprus.
I think that Turkey is so strong they could tell USA "Please leave US military base Injirlik ".



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Oct 06, 2020, 04:40:58 PM
Armenian Patriarch of Jerusalem calls on Netanyahu to stop arms sale to Azerbaijan

Siranush Ghazanchyan October 5, 2020, 14:04

https://en.armradio.am/2020/10/05/armenian-patriarch-of-jerusalem-calls-on-netanyahu-to-stop-arms-sale-to-azerbaijan/



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia - Russia insists on ceasefire.
Post by: EvadingGrid on Oct 10, 2020, 05:06:13 AM
Russia insists on ceasefire.



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Oct 11, 2020, 01:37:28 PM

Why does Erdogan support Azerbaijan?

Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan – I have already said that this is a consequence of Turkey's imperialist policy pursued by Erdogan. And I think that most likely the task is set to get rid of independent state of Azerbaijan, which will be absorbed by Turkey.

Thus, when I talk about the policy of genocide against Armenians, I want to emphasize that it is not just an expression of historical hatred towards Armenians. The problem is that the Armenians in the South Caucasus are the last impediment on imperialistic Turkey's way to north, south-east an east. Because Turkey's imperialist policy goes much further than the South Caucasus. Let us look at Turkey's activity in the Mediterranean, Libya, the Middle East, Iraq and Syria.

I want to emphasize that in my opinion, Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia are at the forefront of civilization today. If the international community fails to consider the situation accurately, Europe will have to see Turkey in to Vienna.

https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/armenien-premier-paschinjan-tuerkei-will-den-genozid-an-armeniern-fortsetzen-73236824.bild.html



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Oct 17, 2020, 05:36:14 PM
Nagorno-Karabakh: Armenia and Azerbaijan announce new truce plan ?

Warring parties say ceasefire over disputed territory to take effect from midnight local time



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Title: Re: Conflict: Turkey versus Armenia ?
Post by: Al Bundy on Oct 24, 2020, 04:56:10 PM

Armenian MP Mikayel Zolyan told Global News the escalating conflict has all the makings of a "global catastrophe" that could lead to a third world war.



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Title: Re: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Nov 10, 2020, 02:39:13 AM
Armenia has agreed to a cessation of hostilities with Azerbaijan effective immediately, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan announced on Facebook early on November 10 Yerevan time, calling the terms "unspeakably painful for me personally and for our people."

"I made that decision as a result of an in-depth analysis of the military situation and the assessment of people who know the situation best. Also based on the belief that this is the best possible solution to the current situation," Pashinyan's statement said, according to an English translation published by Civilnet.

Armenia has been steadily losing territory for weeks. On November 8, Azerbaijan announced it had retaken Shusha, the city Azerbaijanis regard as their historical and cultural center in Nagorno-Karabakh, which appears to have been the critical loss forcing the Armenians to accept defeat.

The agreement, signed by Pashinyan, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev, and Russian President Vladimir Putin, calls for Russian peacekeepers to patrol the Lachin Corridor connecting Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper and for Armenia to withdraw from other contested territories outside Nagorno-Karabakh.

It said that Armenia would cede control over the Kelbajar region by November 15 and Aghdam by November 20. Armenians will withdraw from Lachin, except for a five-kilometer-wide corridor, by December 1. It did not directly address the status of the parts of Nagorno-Karabakh proper that Armenian forces continued to hold, including the regional capital, Stepanakert.

The agreement also provides for some sort of corridor between "mainland" Azerbaijan and its exclave of Nakhchivan, but it was not clear if that would involve any transfer of territory. Russia and Armenia would "guarantee the security of transport links," the agreement said.

Russian peacekeepers will total just under 2,000, and were flown in from Ulyanovsk. They began entering Lachin at 6 am local time, Russian media reported.

In a speech following the signing of the agreement, Aliyev said that Turkey also would play a role in peacekeeping, but there was no mention of Turkey in the formal agreement.

"The fifth paragraph of the statement reads: 'A peacekeeping center for ceasefire control is being established to increase the effectiveness of monitoring the parties' compliance with the agreements.' I can say that Russian and Turkish military will work in this center. So, Turkey will officially play a role in the future settlement of the conflict and monitoring the ceasefire," Aliyev said.

https://eurasianet.org/armenian-pm-war-is-over

P.S. Also in capital of Armenia are anti-government protests



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: EvadingGrid on Nov 10, 2020, 03:51:46 AM
Armenia is now rioting over peace deal.



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Nov 10, 2020, 03:58:25 AM
Quote from: EvadingGrid on Nov 10, 2020, 03:51:46 AM
Armenia is now rioting over peace deal.



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Yes, I heard on TV. Without pro- russian government in Erevan , Armenians will loose not only territory Nagorno Karabakh. There will be another exodus like one in XX century.



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Nov 10, 2020, 04:09:34 AM
Second war > day by day













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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia - What really happened - SyrianGirl
Post by: EvadingGrid on Nov 12, 2020, 03:27:12 AM
What really happened in NagornoKarabakh (Artsakh )
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SyrianGirlpartisan


Deep Analysis of the Conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh(Artsakh) with Syrian Armenian journalists Kevork Almassian who also has updates on his channel.













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Title: Re: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Nov 12, 2020, 09:01:14 PM
Russian Peacekeepers in Nagorno Karabakh













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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Nov 13, 2020, 09:40:02 AM
Exodus of Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh  :'(













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Title: Re: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Nov 13, 2020, 04:20:19 PM
Celebration in Azerbeijan  :(













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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Nov 14, 2020, 08:50:35 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/cFf0yzN/azer-krst-crkva-skrnavljenje-nagorno-karabah-foto-twitter.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4TvzFBj)

Azerbaijan soldier screams from the Armenian Orthodox Church: " Allahu Akbar !!!" ( God is strongest ).  >:( >:(



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: poseidonlost on Nov 19, 2020, 12:36:04 AM
You know, I have some words to say about all this, but it'd be... misunderstood.

How about this, so much for Russia being the arbiter of Christianity in the east...  ::)

And remember forever, the world cared more about Harambe...  >:(



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Title: Re: Conflict: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: poseidonlost on Nov 19, 2020, 12:49:09 AM
Fuck the Turks

8)

War - System of a Down













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Title: Israel, Armenia and the Death of Middle East Christianity
Post by: poseidonlost on Nov 19, 2020, 12:56:12 AM
Israel, Armenia and the Death of Middle East Christianity

https://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/november/18/israel-armenia-and-the-death-of-middle-east-christianity/

Written by Mark Almond
November 18, 2020

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An ancient pre-Islamic nation suddenly overwhelmed on its ancestral lands during Yom Kippur by an oil-rich Muslim regime deploying state-of-the-art technology sounds like the stuff of Israeli nightmares. Combine the kamikaze drones with swarms of jihadi fundamentalist warriors scrawling swastikas on the abandoned vehicles of their defeated enemies while graffitiing the names of past pogroms on the burnt out ruins of the defeated people's buildings as they liberate the "occupied territories" and it looks like a Zionist Armageddon.

What sounds like a prequel for a future apocalypse of the Jewish state is in fact what has just happened to the three million Armenians of the Caucasus at the hands of much bigger, richer and better armed Azerbaijan.

But Israelis ought to have qualms about what has just happened over the last six weeks in the Caucasus mountains between Mount Ararat and Iran. This is not so much because of the obvious analogies between Israel's occupation of Palestinian lands and the Syrian Golan Heights and the Christian Armenians' position in the mountainous Karabakh region of Azerbaijan, nor because of the possibility that despite President Trump's much-trumpeted peace deals between Israel and certain oil-rich Arab states could yet dissolve if the military balance between Jews and Muslims was shifted as suddenly and decisively as between Christians and Muslims in the Caucasus when oil wealth bought the Azeris' attack-drones and skilled advisers to render obsolete overnight the much-vaunted Armenian military advantage.

It was Israel's willingness to sell Halop drones, both kamikaze and loitering versions, to Azerbaijan which put the Armenians on the ground at such a disadvantage. Azerbaijan spent 60% by value of its defence procurement budget on Israeli weaponry. In return the regime in Baku is the major oil supplier to Israel which is still boycotted by most other Muslim producers.

That Israeli self-interest in cooperating with Azerbaijan did not stop the Jewish state engaging in a cynical alliance with Azerbaijan's other backer, Turkey, which gave the Azeri's such a huge military advantage. Despite the Turkish President's public support for Palestinians and his occasional anti-Semitic barbs about Jewish financiers, in practice his weapons supplies and military advisers complemented Israel's military assistance to Azerbaijan. Of course, Turkey is a member of NATO, which means its forces are trained and operate according to US military doctrines, which have long been evolved with input from the Israeli Defense Forces.

Some of the Syrian mercenary jihadis sent by Turkey to do Azerbaijan's dirty work of mopping up Armenians in the ground war came from groups which have combined ranting anti-Zionist propaganda with practical cooperation with Israel against the Assad regime in Syria which is backed by Iran, Israel's prime Muslim foe at present.

Given Azerbaijan's border with Iran, Israeli cooperation with Baku gives it the possibility of basing similar weapons to those used against the Armenians just over the Iranian border. Reports suggest that Israel and Azerbaijan have signed an intelligence sharing deal aimed at Iran. So it seems that Azerbaijan's recovery of the "occupied territories" in its west is not seen as a dangerous precedent to Israel by Benjamin Netanyahu's government but as a possible trial run for a northern front against the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Stepping up pressure on the mullahs in Teheran will certainly enjoy bi-partisan support in Washington – and the Sunni jihadis sent to Azerbaijan to fight Christian Armenians will happily redirect their fire at "heretic" Shiite Iranians.

But many Christian Zionists, certainly here in Britain, have been distressed to see how their fellow Christian Armenians have been sacrificed on the altar of Realpolitik by Israel. In recent decades, we have witnessed the steady shrinking of ancient Christian communities across the Middle East. Born-again Christians like George W. Bush and Tony Blair dealt a death-blow to Iraq's almost two thousand year old Christian communities. Barack Obama and "Holy Joe" Biden had no qualms about backing the Sunni fundamentalists in Syria who desecrated churches and destroyed ancient Christian shrines like that of Simon Stylites in Syria. So maybe seeing the first nation to convert to Christianity pounded into submission by Israeli and Turkish high-tech munitions should come as no surprise, but Armenians have a diaspora especially in America and France to raise their plight but Azerbaijan and its allies had already bought the lobbyists.

For decades there has been tension between Israeli and Armenian lobbyists in Washington over whether the USA would formally recognise that Ottoman Turkey had inflicted a genocide on Armenians under its control in 1915. Israelis had long got many countries along with the USA to recognise the cruel fate of millions of Jews at the hands of Nazi Germany, while Israel and its American supporters had persistently lobbied Congress and White House against recognising the mass killings in 1915 as the equivalent of the Holocaust. Turkey of course has been happy to have had Israeli lobbyists alongside its efforts to deny that anything genocidal, in fact anything other the normal collateral damage of warfare, had occurred 105 years ago.

This unseemly competition over whose genocide and suffering should be officially-endorsed by Washington is part of the backdrop to the peculiar animosity between the two non-Muslim states in an Islamic majority region. Of course, in Jerusalem itself Armenian clergy like other native Christian minorities find themselves often in dispute with the Israeli authorities. But American and European Christians have been blithely unaware of the tensions between two tiny nations each claiming three thousand years history. Which intertwines with the story of Christianity but also geopolitics and now energy interests.

Any mention of lobbying should remind us how many petro-dollars Azerbaijan has poured into the Beltway. Google Biden family members and his key foreign policy advisers and media boosters to get a glimpse of why the strange silence of the "President-elect" and his failure to rev up his customary denunciation of despots and ethnic cleansing during the election campaign was not so odd after all.

Yet if a new big war is in the offing in the Middle East, and Donald Trump fails to seize his chance in the next two months to start one like his predecessors, then Mr Biden might well have an opportunity. Iran's large Armenian Christian minority knows what their "liberation" from the Ayatollahs will mean for their communities.

Israel's active assistance to the anti-Christian side in the neighbouring conflict between Azeris and Armenians has suddenly also brought home to many evangelical Christians who had seen endorsing and promoting the Jewish state as consonant with their own faith's goals that their new Jerusalem is not Benjamin Netanyahu's. The sight of Armenian Christians hastily un-burying their ancestors for fear their graves and the churches next to them will be desecrated by the victorious Azeris who are moving into these regions in the next ten days is more than just the latest episode in the de-Christianisation of the Middle East region. It may be the start of the unravelling of the evangelical Christian-Zionist alliance.

If the nasty little war between Sunni Muslim Azerbaijan and Christian Armenia turns out to have been a trial run for a war between Israel helped by Azerbaijan against the looming threat of Iran, then almost certainly the USA and probably European allies like Britain will be drawn in. Yet there are now glimmerings that a key component in the pro-Israeli mindset in the West – evangelical Christians – might be beginning to question whether sacrificing ordinary Middle Eastern Christians on the altar of Realpolitik, Mammon, and unquestioning support for whatever Israel decides to do will continue to have their support.

Maybe Benjamin Netanyahu will paraphrase Stalin on the Pope and dismissively ask "How many kamikaze drones have the evangelical Christians got?" But if Israel ever finds itself back to wall again alienating Christians may not seem to have been such a smart move. After all some of Israel's temporary allies like Turkey have learned how quickly the assumed military superiority of a micro-state like Armenia or Israel can disappear when a technological leap forward nullifies its advantages. Assuming that it will always be one step ahead was Armenia's fatal mistake. There is no guarantee that it will be Israel rather than its untrustworthy regional partners who make the next high tech military breakthrough. But in the meantime, global Christian sympathy for Israel has taken a beating as bad as the battlefield casualties of the Armenians.



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Title: Re: Azerbeijan versus Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Nov 19, 2020, 06:47:13 PM
Quote from: poseidonlost on Nov 19, 2020, 12:36:04 AM
You know, I have some words to say about all this, but it'd be... misunderstood.

How about this, so much for Russia being the arbiter of Christianity in the east...  ::)

And remember forever, the world cared more about Harambe...  >:(



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Poseidolost, I understand you almost perfectly. Christianity on Caucasus not in danger. Arriving Russian Army as "Peacekeepers" on Nagorno Karabach and Russian loud and clear that they will not allow Turkish Army to be "Peacekeepers" on NG seems that Putin is still arbiter of
Christianity in this region. That is my opinion.

Harambe. In North America and in Europe , people more like animals than suffer of other people.
One Serbian child poet said few days ago: "In the villages children are born, In the cities pets are born".

P.S. Armenians get Soros government in 2018 but they loose the war and loose many lives, get many Refugees... :'(
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2018/05/28/russophobes-in-pashinyans-team-soros-tilting-boat-of-pro-armenian-premier



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Title: Re: Russia and Armenia
Post by: Al Bundy on Mar 11, 2021, 05:42:51 PM
Russia helps Armenia to build new modern Army ?