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Quote from: 2Revolutions on May 19, 2018, 08:58:24 AMLooks like they have decided on a narrative and profile to assign to Stephen Paddock. It is not coincidence that they decided to release these "witness statements" and reference Waco, a gun confiscation operation by the ATF._____________________________________________________________________Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock ranted about FEMA camps, Waco before concert massacre, witnesses sayhttps://foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.htmlThe Las Vegas gunman ranted about conspiracy theories in the weeks before he gunned down 58 people and wounded hundreds more from his sniper perch inside a high-rise hotel last year, new documents reveal.A jailed man who gave a statement to authorities in November said he encountered a man he believed was Stephen Paddock and who told him that Federal Emergency Management Agency "camps" setup after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 were "a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin' down doors and...confiscating guns.""Somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves," the man said Paddock told him less than a month before the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. "Sometimes sacrifices have to be made."Separately, a woman wrote a handwritten account of her experience with Paddock, in which she said she heard him talk about armed standoffs. The woman reportedly overheard Paddock talking with another man at a Las Vegas restaurant three days before the shooting.She told authorities that Paddock seemed upset about the deadly standoffs between law enforcement officers and militia groups at Waco, Texas in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992."At the time, I just thought 'strange guys' and I wanted to leave," the woman told officials.The Las Vegas Police Department on Wednesday released 1,200 pages of reports, including witness statements and officer testimony on the October massacre. Multiple witnesses who attended the Route 91 Harvest Festival concert said they thought they were hearing fireworks as the shooting was taking place.More at the link --> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/17/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-ranted-about-fema-camps-waco-before-concert-massacre-witnesses-say.amp.htmlLast Edit by Palmerston
QuoteTime to protect our families and communitiesWe will not know all the facts about these men until after their trials. But but by all indications, it was apparent they needed treatment.Any lay person could have picked out the paranoia and weird character in these men. We lock our doors and tell our children to watch out for the "crazies" on the streets that are unpredictable and can harm us. We gaze in astonishment at homeless men and women screaming at no apparent listener. But we fail repeatedly to take reasonable measures to protect our families and communities.Providing better protection is complicated. Our country is deeply divided. The friction between opposing parties opens gaps to be exploited not just by interest groups and lobbyists, but by fringe extremists. The right to free speech allows for the unfiltered expression of weird notions and sentiments. The First Amendment protects even the most bizarre ideas, that can go viral across social media, and bring together extremists that would not otherwise talk to each other. And, like Long and Bowers, the potentially dangerous individual has access to very lethal weapons.Forty years ago, mental health advocacy groups successfully lobbied for laws that restrict involuntary hospitalization and treatment. Compelling involuntary treatment requires showing that the patient is a clear danger to himself or others. These laws may have been a good thing, but the down side is it is not easy to prove dangerousness. The upshot is that many seriously ill men and women, both homicidal and suicidal, do not have access to mental health care.They may be clearly paranoid and spewing bizarre and creepy ideas, but they are not certifiably dangerous to themselves and others. They mimic the public discourse heard on mainstream media and evade accountability for their talk and actions. Those on the fringe don't have the filters to think rationally about conspiracy theories and feral ideas in the public forum, or the control to restrain their fears and instincts. Paradoxically, the courts usually find such accused killers and bombers competent to stand trial and face sentences of life in prison or death.But prison or death after the fact doesn't make our country safer. We're still left with a paranoid and emotionally unstable fringe that doesn't satisfy criteria for involuntary treatment, but has virtually unlimited access to assault weapons and guns. Politics make it almost impossible to design effective gun violence prevention policies and improve mental health services. The NRA will continue to oppose restrictions on dangerous weapons, the mental health advocacy groups will campaign to protect patients from being stigmatized, and extremists and politicians will disavow any responsibility for bad actors.We need to update gun and mental health lawsLethal gun violence, both homicide and suicide, is the danger right in front of us. It is the leading cause of death among young American men. The rate of mass shootings tripled from 2011 to 2014, the Harvard School of Public Health reports. And the environment has changed in 40 years since the first laws protecting against involuntary commitment were enacted.Today, highly lethal weapons can get into the hands of more dangerous people than ever, and they can make bombs in their basements. It is time to change the laws on involuntary treatment and enable governmental agencies to better identify potentially violent individuals.