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Nationalism

Started by Al Bundy, Oct 16, 2019, 02:49:14 PM

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Al Bundy

What is Nationalism? Patriotism or chauvinism?

The MSM and the political-intellectual establishment on West define the word nationalism as chauvinism, racism, fascism and even Nazism and anti-Semitism.

That is why, although I consider myself a Serbian nationalist, I avoid my political persuasion with those words, but I already use words like the Serbian patriot. Why ?
Because in Serbia too, fashion prevailed that if you said you were Serbian nationalist or Chetnik, ie. an extremist, one who wills again the wars, the primitive, the religious fanatic, the one who does not want Serbia to join the EU that we all have to pay 1000 euros each. :D

In Serbia, my acquaintances know that I am not like this even though they have other political beliefs or are not interested in politics.

I LOVE MY SERBIAN PEOPLE, I LOVE SERBIA INCLUDING KOSOVO, I LOVE REPUBLIC OF SRPSKA ( ENTITY OF BOSNIA ) AND MONTENEGRO.
I DO NOT LIKE ENEMY OF SERBS - NATO AND EUROPEAN UNION.



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EvadingGrid

Several words have been distorted by "slogan politics" into false meanings.
The word Nationalism is treated like a dirty word, which is wrong.

I think what is most amusing, is that at its core, Nationalism is the love of ones own minority culture.
"Slogan Politics" is dumbing down the true meaning of words, and replacing them with Idiotic Ideas derived from cheap nasty Slogans.

Currently, a shocking percentage of the population associate Nationalism with National Socialism.
It seems the world can divided by which word people see and loathe in : "National Socialism".

(a) Socialism - proving Hitler was a socialist, therefore socialism is evil
(b) Nationalism - proving Hitler was a nationalist, therefore nationalism is evil

Nobody seems to see the truth.



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Al Bundy

Why should be Nationalist ?













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Ye Olde Powder Monkey

Unfortunately IMO, in my deepest experience of regret, that video rewards THATCHER as a 'Great nationalist visionary' or some such tripe.

Without the support of the great God, angels or other present spirits, anything you try will fail.
That's why nationalism throughout the previous century failed so readily. The nations are corrupt.

Thatcher was a reactionary. I know about that woman's personal life, her upbringing; a kind of abuse by her parents, at least a very very strict upbringing, nit-pickingly so in her personal life. Why she gathered the primitive reactionary forces around herself to overturn the societal order of her times.

Nationalism is not the greatest of ideologies. It will probably destroy you, because it is so easily co-opted by the psychopathic we have talked of elsewhere.

And they go to the wall eventually too. This is not a time of 'business as usual'.
As a species, we need to straighten out the prospects for the future that will make human life rewarding, rather than unendurable.



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Cpt's Log; 14.44 BST. 19 April, 2020: "I just day-dreamed a ramming incident.
An unusual dream indeed, as the ship I rammed belonged to The Vulcans.
I shall now walk onto their bridge and inspect all round for damage."

Al Bundy

Quote from: Ye Olde Powder Monkey on Oct 17, 2019, 04:10:30 PM


Nationalism is not the greatest of ideologies.



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Maybe, but which ideology is the greatest ?



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EvadingGrid

The video makes a classic mistake, it claims that Nationalism is opposed to Imperialism.

In fact aggressive countries expand under Nationalism to build Empires. The victim countries use Nationalism to rally the people into resistance. History is full of examples where both sides use Nationalism to rally the troops.

As for Thatcher, its worth looking at her true political enemy, the previous Conservative Prime Minister, Edward Heath. One Nation Tory, Heath sold the idea of Nationalism and Thatcher was his enemy.

One-Nation Conservatism is the enemy of The New Right.

Its also an invention of the Elite in response to the working class getting the vote. It was cynically designed to persuade them to vote for the party representing The Elite.


You are all familiar with the idea that Socialism was created by the Elite to trick the workers into voting for a Party engineered by The Fabians. Are we really so naive that you can not see that the Conservatives are The Elite Party and they also had a method to trick the workers ?

Both parties are by the elite, for the elite, and deceive the public with a false persona to get elected by the ordinary people.



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Al Bundy

Quote from: EvadingGrid on Oct 18, 2019, 01:29:48 PM
The video makes a classic mistake, it claims that Nationalism is opposed to Imperialism.

In fact aggressive countries expand under Nationalism to build Empires. The victim countries use Nationalism to rally the people into resistance. History is full of examples where both sides use Nationalism to rally the troops.

As for Thatcher, its worth looking at her true political enemy, the previous Conservative Prime Minister, Edward Heath. One Nation Tory, Heath sold the idea of Nationalism and Thatcher was his enemy.

One-Nation Conservatism is the enemy of The New Right.

Its also an invention of the Elite in response to the working class getting the vote. It was cynically designed to persuade them to vote for the party representing The Elite.


You are all familiar with the idea that Socialism was created by the Elite to trick the workers into voting for a Party engineered by The Fabians. Are you really so naive that you can not see that the Conservatives are The Elite Party and they also had a method to trick the workers ?

Both parties are by the elite, for the elite, and deceive the public with a false persona to get elected by the ordinary people.



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Maybe he want to tell when Empire your country there must be National pride and High Moral in Army and the people.
Yes, Nationalism must escalate in Imperialism but Capitalist Country may escalate in Imperial Country.



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Al Bundy

12/3 2001 Highway between Nis and Leskovac, Serbia

Under suspicious circumstances, Serbian nationalist Nebojsa M. Krstic (37) died in a car accident.



Krstić was theologian and sociologist. He was the founder and first president of the Serbian nationalist Fatherland movement Obraz (Honor), that was banned in June 2012. Court after un-formal order of EU Dictator in Serbia Aleksandar Vucic.



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